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Gavrial
605 DAYS UNTIL THE RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS

Forum members and guests;

From February 13, 2007 to and including October 9, 2008 is 605 days “after which the sanctuary will be restored to its rightful state.” Daniel 8:14

My prayer is that you have been seeking wisdom, counsel and skill in understanding this vision and have or will become strong and as “grafted in descendants” of Israel, will come to know that this is the work of Gods hand.

The ‘vision’ is true and by God’s grace, HAS BEEN MADE PLAIN AND SIMPLE and you can run with it, THE ‘APPOINTED TIME’ OF ITS PROCLAMATION IS NEAR! Habakkuk 2: 2-3

Share this vision to those who need to know, giving Him the glory, gavrial
duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 13 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]101988[/snapback]

605 DAYS UNTIL THE RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS

Forum members and guests;

From February 13, 2007 to and including October 9, 2008 is 605 days “after which the sanctuary will be restored to its rightful state.” Daniel 8:14

My prayer is that you have been seeking wisdom, counsel and skill in understanding this vision and have or will become strong and as “grafted in descendants” of Israel, will come to know that this is the work of Gods hand.

The ‘vision’ is true and by God’s grace, HAS BEEN MADE PLAIN AND SIMPLE and you can run with it, THE ‘APPOINTED TIME’ OF ITS PROCLAMATION IS NEAR! Habakkuk 2: 2-3

Share this vision to those who need to know, giving Him the glory, gavrial


what exactly are you predicting?
Gavrial
On Feb 13 2007, 03:52 PM' post#'101990'

Duncdrewnoah asked, “what exactly are you predicting?”

The fulfillment of the ‘2300 day vision’ of Daniel 8:14, that I believe ends on Yom Kippur 2008 when all things are restored and Yeshua’s millennial reign as our Messiah begins!!

Reading the two links below will add insight as to why I believe the vision is true.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9682
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9861

Thank you for asking, Gavrial


duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 13 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]101994[/snapback]

On Feb 13 2007, 03:52 PM' post#'101990'

Duncdrewnoah asked, “what exactly are you predicting?”

The fulfillment of the ‘2300 day vision’ of Daniel 8:14, that I believe ends on Yom Kippur 2008 when all things are restored and Yeshua’s millennial reign as our Messiah begins!!

Reading the two links below will add insight as to why I believe the vision is true.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9682
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9861

Thank you for asking, Gavrial


No 7 yrs of tribulation first? No antichrist?

no two witnesses? no trumpets or plagues or vials or horsemen?
Kansasdad
How many dates will come and go yet Jesus himself said nobody knows.
Gavrial
duncdrewnoah on Feb 13 2007, 04:28 PM' in post # '101995' said, "No 7 yrs of tribulation first? No antichrist? no two witnesses? no trumpets or plagues or vials or horsemen?"

The tribulation is right at the door, when the 'ruthless architect' is taken out of the way the fruit of his 'covenant with death and hell" will surely manifest itself with your above list of participants joining in its countdown to October 9, 2008.

I WON'T READ THIS IT IS TOO HARD TO CONTEMPLATE

To those keeping their eyes closed wanting to stay blind, God has poured out a spirit of deep sleep because they have listened to the prophetic voices of the Prophecy gurus, Pastors and teachers of today.

The “2300 day vision” of Daniel 8:13-14, is our Presidents vision of a ‘Roadmap to Peace’, and is like the words of a book that is still sealed to those blinded and has now been given to you having been told to read it carefully and prayerfully.

Do you still say, “I am unable to open my eyes because THIS IS TOO HARD TO CONTEMPLATE, or my teacher HASN’T TOLD ME THIS, so it can not be true?” The “2300 day vision’ given to one with a different interpretation will say “I WON’T LOOK AT THIS, I want to stay blind!”

Why is this? The traditions of men ARE EMPTY WORDS that have permeated and so brainwashed the prophetic masses since the mid-seventies. The honor they have given God IS BUT MERE LIP SERVICE!

That being said, ‘words of emptiness’ ARE FALSE and keeps true understanding at a distance. Matthew 15:8-9, Mark 7:6-7

God has been and WILL CONTINUE TO SHOCK the people who are holding on to the ‘precepts of men’ such as the tornados of February 2, 2007 that struck ‘suddenly and without warning’ during the last watch of that fateful day. Dividing His land has not and will not be tolerated.

The ‘SHOCKING’ WILL CONTINUE as February 19th looms and amazing and astounding things will most likely happen on that day and escalate as the ‘vision’ falls into ITS LAST 600 DAYS. As this ‘shocking’ continues, the TRADITIONAL WISDOM of the prophetic voices WILL VANISH and their INTERPRETATIONS will fall in disfavor and be hidden away.

My prayer is that you will become strong and as “grafted in descendants” know that this is the work of Gods hand, that the ‘vision’ is true and by God’s grace, HAS BEEN MADE PLAIN AND SIMPLE and we can run with it, THE ‘APPOINTED TIME’ OF ITS PROCLAMATION IS NEAR! Habakkuk 2: 2-3

Praying that the prophetic voices, Pastors and teachers whose spirits have strayed will CONSECRATE HIS NAME, REPENT learn their lesson and come to understanding. Yeshua was cut-off at the end of the 69th week. The seventieth week ended at the stoning of Stephen 7 years later.

Giving Him the glory an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand make your election SURE
Godisgood
From February 13, 2007 to and including October 9, 2008 is 605 days “after which the sanctuary will be restored to its rightful state.” Daniel 8:14

Greetings all:

I just wanted to add something of an observational note. From April 19, 2005, when the present Pope was elected, to either September 25 or 26, 2008 is appromixately 3 1/2 years (not an precise date, I could be wrong in my counting). Will the present Pope dies around that time is highly debatable and admittedly conjecture and speculation on my part. That would definitely be an eye-opener right there, if that will be the case. September 29-30, 2008 is the Rosh Hashanah (it begins at sundown the previous day and ends at sundown of Sept. 30). Almost 8 (9, according to Gavrial) days later would be an sign of circumision of every jewish males. Interesting tidbit there. But again, I could be wrong. smile.gif


The ‘SHOCKING’ WILL CONTINUE as February 19th looms and amazing and astounding things will most likely happen on that day and escalate as the ‘vision’ falls into ITS LAST 600 DAYS. As this ‘shocking’ continues, the TRADITIONAL WISDOM of the prophetic voices WILL VANISH and their INTERPRETATIONS will fall in disfavor and be hidden away.

17 days later after the storm of Feb. 2 comes the "shocking". Isn't the numberics of 17 supposed to signifies heaven or something like that? What's going to happen in 4 days from now is anyone's guess so while it's still called today, we as christians and brethren of Joshua's, who follows the Torah (not the Vatician council, mind you), should be prayerful and on watch. Lately, God has been calling me to read from the bible that relates to Chapter 14 and I keep coming back to Is. 14. It's so "anti"-Valentine, for you get the idea.

Sincerely yours,

Wendy
bonomike
QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 13 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]102002[/snapback]

duncdrewnoah on Feb 13 2007, 04:28 PM' in post # '101995' said, "No 7 yrs of tribulation first? No antichrist? no two witnesses? no trumpets or plagues or vials or horsemen?"

The tribulation is right at the door, when the 'ruthless architect' is taken out of the way the fruit of his 'covenant with death and hell" will surely manifest itself with your above list of participants joining in its countdown to October 9, 2008...

The “2300 day vision” of Daniel 8:13-14, is our Presidents vision of a ‘Roadmap to Peace’, and is like the words of a book that is still sealed to those blinded and has now been given to you having been told to read it carefully and prayerfully...

God has been and WILL CONTINUE TO SHOCK the people who are holding on to the ‘precepts of men’ such as the tornados of February 2, 2007 that struck ‘suddenly and without warning’ during the last watch of that fateful day. Dividing His land has not and will not be tolerated.

The ‘SHOCKING’ WILL CONTINUE as February 19th looms and amazing and astounding things will most likely happen on that day and escalate as the ‘vision’ falls into ITS LAST 600 DAYS. As this ‘shocking’ continues, the TRADITIONAL WISDOM of the prophetic voices WILL VANISH and their INTERPRETATIONS will fall in disfavor and be hidden away...

Praying that the prophetic voices, Pastors and teachers whose spirits have strayed will CONSECRATE HIS NAME, REPENT learn their lesson and come to understanding. Yeshua was cut-off at the end of the 69th week. The seventieth week ended at the stoning of Stephen 7 years later.

Giving Him the glory an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand make your election SURE


Gavrial,

Daniel 8:14
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

In looking at a passage about the cleansing of the temple, I find 2 Chron. 29:17. "Now they began on the first day of the first month to sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of the LORD: so they sanctified the house of the LORD in eight days; and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end."

There is a similar passage in Ezekiel 46. It appears to speak more of seven days.

In any case, is it possible that the October 9, 2008 date is the beginning of the cleansing, which will take seven years, plus the one year day of Lord (after God's people are taken), in which his wrath is poured out upon the world (the porch)? This is a total of 8 years, like the 8 days above.

Some consider the tribulation period a period of separation of the wheat from the tares, where the tares are burned in the "fires" of tribulation. The saints are purified. The bride is prepared for her husband. The blood has already paid the price for our sin. However, the trials of this life bring us to trust God and destroy the flesh, allowing God's Holy Spirit to have full authority in our lives. Even Christ learned obedience through the things he suffered, according to scripture. These are those that Revelation refers to as "those that came out of great tribulation."

Thanks.

In Christ,

Mike
bonomike
QUOTE(Kansasdad @ Feb 13 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]101997[/snapback]

How many dates will come and go yet Jesus himself said nobody knows.



I understand exactly where you're coming from, and am quite familiar with the passages you refer to.

However, in my opinion, this possibly brings up a critical failure in the thinking of a lot of the church today. It has probably caused many to close their eyes and/or stop their ears in the thought that God would actually let his people be blind and deaf to world events.

In looking into this, I remember the Matthew 24 passage..." 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Well, what did Noah know? God told Noah seven days before the flood precisely when the flood would come. Here it is in Gen. 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

That leads to 1 Thess. 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

Also, in Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

When Christ came the first time, he really expected the people of that day to know. The signs were given of his arrival. Even the wise men from the East knew when to show up based on the sign of his star. But, the religious elite were clueless. How similar will today be? Are the signs going to be missed by most because "no man knows the day or the hour?"

What if the tense of that portion of scripture truly applied to those of that day, but not those of the day in which these last days have come upon?

In looking at the body of scripture from Genesis to Revelation, where is there an example of God's true followers being clueless of coming events? Is there any place where the true saints ever said, "Boy...didn't see that coming?" I put forth that if the interpretation is as many say, it is the only place in all of scripture where the (obedient) saints of God are clueless.

It is probably more true that the friends of the bride will see the groom coming down the road, alert the bride, and begin the celebration.

Anyway, this is just a collection of my studies in the matter. I never cease to pray that the Lord will reveal his truth to me as I watch.

May Jesus be glorified.

In Him,

Mike


duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(bonomike @ Feb 13 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]102039[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kansasdad @ Feb 13 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]101997[/snapback]

How many dates will come and go yet Jesus himself said nobody knows.



I understand exactly where you're coming from, and am quite familiar with the passages you refer to.

However, in my opinion, this possibly brings up a critical failure in the thinking of a lot of the church today. It has probably caused many to close their eyes and/or stop their ears in the thought that God would actually let his people be blind and deaf to world events.

In looking into this, I remember the Matthew 24 passage..." 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Well, what did Noah know? God told Noah seven days before the flood precisely when the flood would come. Here it is in Gen. 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

That leads to 1 Thess. 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

Also, in Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

When Christ came the first time, he really expected the people of that day to know. The signs were given of his arrival. Even the wise men from the East knew when to show up based on the sign of his star. But, the religious elite were clueless. How similar will today be? Are the signs going to be missed by most because "no man knows the day or the hour?"

What if the tense of that portion of scripture truly applied to those of that day, but not those of the day in which these last days have come upon?

In looking at the body of scripture from Genesis to Revelation, where is there an example of God's true followers being clueless of coming events? Is there any place where the true saints ever said, "Boy...didn't see that coming?" I put forth that if the interpretation is as many say, it is the only place in all of scripture where the (obedient) saints of God are clueless.

It is probably more true that the friends of the bride will see the groom coming down the road, alert the bride, and begin the celebration.

Anyway, this is just a collection of my studies in the matter. I never cease to pray that the Lord will reveal his truth to me as I watch.

May Jesus be glorified.

In Him,

Mike


it would not surprise me for something big to happen on the 17th-it is shabbat shalekiem....however, I can assure everyone here that Jesus will not comback (second coming ) on this date nor anytime in 2008. Now the rapture could happen, trib could start, but Jesus will not return in the next 600 days. A simple Bible study on the tribulation tells us that A-it has not started and B-when it does start, it will last longer than 600 days.
Gavrial
On Feb 14 2007 at 7:32 AM' post #'102080'

duncdrewnoah said, “A simple Bible study on the tribulation tells us that A-it has not started and B-when it does start, it will last longer than 600 days.”

Duncan The traditions of men ARE EMPTY WORDS that have so permeated and brainwashed the prophetic masses since the mid-seventies that the only honor they have given God IS BUT MERE LIP SERVICE!

TRIBULATION OVER GOD'S LAND STARTED when the President announced his ‘vision’ to divide the land at a ‘Roadmap to Peace’ ceremony at the White House on June 24, 2002.

Not without significance IS THE FACT that it was postponed on June 18, 2002 and moved up to June 24th so it would terminate on Yom Kippur, October 9, 2008.

The ‘2300 day vision’ will become ‘unsealed’ TO THE SCEPTICS, when the evil rulers who rule this people in Jerusalem are cut-off and the ruthless architect is brought to naught.

Those preaching the ‘traditions of men’, having lain snares of empty reasoning on their congregants are included with the scorners consumed by the “overflowing scourge” of Isaiah 28:17-18.

In that day the Lord of hosts will become ‘strength’ to those who TURN BACK the battle at the gate! Isaiah 28:6 He will gather them as a flock in the fold and with great noise of rejoicing they will come into the ‘refuge’ of the wilderness. Psalm 91, Isaiah 26:20 and Ezekiel 20:33-38

His word is to be a rest that gives rest to the weary and is the “refreshing” but these teachers will not hear. It is the “traditions” that have become a refuge of lies, causing us to stumble and become snared and taken captive.

These liars will be swept away with hail and waters overflowing and it will become night to them and they will be ashamed covering their lips for there will be no answer.

But as for me, I will look to the Lord; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me. Micah 7:7

Giving Him the glory, gavrial

duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 14 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]102116[/snapback]

On Feb 14 2007 at 7:32 AM' post #'102080'

duncdrewnoah said, “A simple Bible study on the tribulation tells us that A-it has not started and B-when it does start, it will last longer than 600 days.”

Duncan The traditions of men ARE EMPTY WORDS that have so permeated and brainwashed the prophetic masses since the mid-seventies that the only honor they have given God IS BUT MERE LIP SERVICE!

TRIBULATION OVER GOD'S LAND STARTED when the President announced his ‘vision’ to divide the land at a ‘Roadmap to Peace’ ceremony at the White House on June 24, 2002.

Not without significance IS THE FACT that it was postponed on June 18, 2002 and moved up to June 24th so it would terminate on Yom Kippur, October 9, 2008.

The ‘2300 day vision’ will become ‘unsealed’ TO THE SCEPTICS, when the evil rulers who rule this people in Jerusalem are cut-off and the ruthless architect is brought to naught.

Those preaching the ‘traditions of men’, having lain snares of empty reasoning on their congregants are included with the scorners consumed by the “overflowing scourge” of Isaiah 28:17-18.

In that day the Lord of hosts will become ‘strength’ to those who TURN BACK the battle at the gate! Isaiah 28:6 He will gather them as a flock in the fold and with great noise of rejoicing they will come into the ‘refuge’ of the wilderness. Psalm 91, Isaiah 26:20 and Ezekiel 20:33-38

His word is to be a rest that gives rest to the weary and is the “refreshing” but these teachers will not hear. It is the “traditions” that have become a refuge of lies, causing us to stumble and become snared and taken captive.

These liars will be swept away with hail and waters overflowing and it will become night to them and they will be ashamed covering their lips for there will be no answer.

But as for me, I will look to the Lord; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me. Micah 7:7

Giving Him the glory, gavrial


so if feb 17th comes and goes without a major biblical event, what will you say?

what do you think will happen on that day?
Gavrial
On Feb 14, 2007 at 11:56 AM in post # '102125' duncdrewnoah asked,

“if Feb 17th comes and goes without a major biblical event, what will you say?” and “What do you think will happen on that day?”

Duncan, The trilateral meeting between Rice Olmert and Abbas is in Jerusalem on February 19th. TWO days later in Berlin Germany on February 21, the Quartet meet.

What will I say if nothing happens? What everyone else who has been following this Palestinian land grab as described in Bill Koenig’s book ’Eye to Eye’.

SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, it always has whenever there is a meeting anywhere in the world, to divide God’s land!

What do I think will happen, These 2 meetings involve 3 days 19-21, and whatever happens I believe WILL BE GREATER than the February 2, 2007 tornados that killed 20 in Florida.

This event will be a precursor to:

A. Architects’ fall, B. Stock market crash, C. Attack on America,

D. Martial law installed E. Concentration camps for resistors, F. ‘Fourth seal’ opened as antichrist is revealed,

G. ‘Fifth seal’ opened as the “marking begins”, H. The regional Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 conflict in Israel I. The ‘sixth seal’ is opened almost simultaneously with the censer of Revelation 8:5,

J-L. Then the first ‘three trumpet judgments in a 1 or 2 day period and M. The fourth trumpet blown

Thank you for asking, Gavrial
Kansasdad
Folks I have seen this very same logic over and over again. People will use parts of the Bible, find some event that seems to fit, attach some length of time and predict a date. The dates come and go and they just revise the event and start over again.

Folks, NO MAN NOR ANGLE WILL EVER KNOW until it happens. . So the message is be prepared at all times then you don't have to worry about it.

God Bless,
K.D.
bonomike
QUOTE
it would not surprise me for something big to happen on the 17th-it is shabbat shalekiem....however, I can assure everyone here that Jesus will not comback (second coming ) on this date nor anytime in 2008. Now the rapture could happen, trib could start, but Jesus will not return in the next 600 days. A simple Bible study on the tribulation tells us that A-it has not started and B-when it does start, it will last longer than 600 days.




True enough. It would be interesting to see if Christ pours out the latter-rain on his chosen witnesses to bring judgment upon the nations, i.e. "ashes under your feet,"--that sort of thing.

The Lion of Judah is about to roar.

In Him,

Mike
bonomike
QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 14 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]102154[/snapback]

On Feb 14, 2007 at 11:56 AM in post # '102125' duncdrewnoah asked,

“if Feb 17th comes and goes without a major biblical event, what will you say?” and “What do you think will happen on that day?”

Duncan, The trilateral meeting between Rice Olmert and Abbas is in Jerusalem on February 19th. TWO days later in Berlin Germany on February 21, the Quartet meet.

What will I say if nothing happens? What everyone else who has been following this Palestinian land grab as described in Bill Koenig’s book ’Eye to Eye’.

SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, it always has whenever there is a meeting anywhere in the world, to divide God’s land!

What do I think will happen, These 2 meetings involve 3 days 19-21, and whatever happens I believe WILL BE GREATER than the February 2, 2007 tornados that killed 20 in Florida.

This event will be a precursor to:

A. Architects’ fall, B. Stock market crash, C. Attack on America,

D. Martial law installed E. Concentration camps for resistors, F. ‘Fourth seal’ opened as antichrist is revealed,

G. ‘Fifth seal’ opened as the “marking begins”, H. The regional Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 conflict in Israel I. The ‘sixth seal’ is opened almost simultaneously with the censer of Revelation 8:5,

J-L. Then the first ‘three trumpet judgments in a 1 or 2 day period and M. The fourth trumpet blown

Thank you for asking, Gavrial



In reply to "setting dates:" You know, this is really less about setting dates than it is about understanding God's view of HIS land, and the tenants he said could live there. The judgment of God is clear enough. It is up to those that understand to proclaim the sovereignty of God and give him the glory.

Still, I pray for his mercy. I pray for the (true) peace of Jerusalem. I pray for abortion's murder of the innocent to cease. I pray for the gospel of Jesus Christ to go forth in power like never before.

As far as what will happen. As speculation...if they talk a lot about monetary assistance, next week could be heck on the stock market. Earthquake? Tsunami? When Condoleeza visted Europe is was phenomenally windy. On Feb. 2, the tornado struck. There's a list of no less than 15 other "coincidences" going back to 1991 on another thread--"Super Storm Coming"--that I posted before.

In all, may the Lord be glorified, and we be living, speaking, breathing Jesus Christ everywhere, all the time.

In Him,

Mike
Kansasdad
QUOTE(bonomike @ Feb 14 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]102172[/snapback]

QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 14 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]102154[/snapback]

On Feb 14, 2007 at 11:56 AM in post # '102125' duncdrewnoah asked,

“if Feb 17th comes and goes without a major biblical event, what will you say?” and “What do you think will happen on that day?”

Duncan, The trilateral meeting between Rice Olmert and Abbas is in Jerusalem on February 19th. TWO days later in Berlin Germany on February 21, the Quartet meet.

What will I say if nothing happens? What everyone else who has been following this Palestinian land grab as described in Bill Koenig’s book ’Eye to Eye’.

SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, it always has whenever there is a meeting anywhere in the world, to divide God’s land!

What do I think will happen, These 2 meetings involve 3 days 19-21, and whatever happens I believe WILL BE GREATER than the February 2, 2007 tornados that killed 20 in Florida.

This event will be a precursor to:

A. Architects’ fall, B. Stock market crash, C. Attack on America,

D. Martial law installed E. Concentration camps for resistors, F. ‘Fourth seal’ opened as antichrist is revealed,

G. ‘Fifth seal’ opened as the “marking begins”, H. The regional Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 conflict in Israel I. The ‘sixth seal’ is opened almost simultaneously with the censer of Revelation 8:5,

J-L. Then the first ‘three trumpet judgments in a 1 or 2 day period and M. The fourth trumpet blown

Thank you for asking, Gavrial



In reply to "setting dates:" You know, this is really less about setting dates than it is about understanding God's view of HIS land, and the tenants he said could live there. The judgment of God is clear enough. It is up to those that understand to proclaim the sovereignty of God and give him the glory.

Still, I pray for his mercy. I pray for the (true) peace of Jerusalem. I pray for abortion's murder of the innocent to cease. I pray for the gospel of Jesus Christ to go forth in power like never before.

As far as what will happen. As speculation...if they talk a lot about monetary assistance, next week could be heck on the stock market. Earthquake? Tsunami? When Condoleeza visted Europe is was phenomenally windy. On Feb. 2, the tornado struck. There's a list of no less than 15 other "coincidences" going back to 1991 on another thread--"Super Storm Coming"--that I posted before.

In all, may the Lord be glorified, and we be living, speaking, breathing Jesus Christ everywhere, all the time.

In Him,

Mike


I have no problem looking at signs and looking at how they show the awesomeness of God. But when we set dates we look like fools and give credibility to those looking to call Christians a bunch of nuts.
George
QUOTE(Gavrial @ Feb 13 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]101994[/snapback]

On Feb 13 2007, 03:52 PM' post#'101990'

Duncdrewnoah asked, “what exactly are you predicting?”

The fulfillment of the ‘2300 day vision’ of Daniel 8:14, that I believe ends on Yom Kippur 2008 when all things are restored and Yeshua’s millennial reign as our Messiah begins!!

Reading the two links below will add insight as to why I believe the vision is true.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9682
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9861

Thank you for asking, Gavrial


I believe you are close to the beginning of it. When in 2008 is Yom Kippur? I believe that the Lords Host's will begin their ministry and take away Gods sacrefice to man in the summer of 2008 and it will be 1335 days from that point to the comming of our Lord and savior. Which would make the comming of our Lord in december of 2011 or january of 2012. The day and hour I do not know.

8 And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur.
9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be-- "The Lord is one,"* And His name one.

LemuelReyes
We're far from there my friend. The earth has to experience the tribulation, antichrist, trumpets, vials, etc.
fighterofgod
We should be ready always.. knowing God will soon call those waiting home.. We christian where not meant for punishment.. like noah we will be pretected before the 7 years of judgement.. so we need to be prepared for christ comes like a thief in the night to take his church before punishment falla apound the world.. Be Ready his coming very very soon.. We may not know the day or time but we do now now is the season..

God bless
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