ROSE!!!! HUGS!!!!! KISSES!!!!!!

oh ROSE----------- i am so sorry to hear about your daddy....

rose i too lost my daddy, but in 94. i still have my momma. and daily, i treasure this.

o dear rose.....but you are NOT and orphan! for you know our Father in heaven loves you and cares for you...

i have missed yOU!

what a surprise!! how did i not see you again until now?

this board has become so big that i miss so much...

i love you dear rose.

love you love you so much....

big slobbery zebra-lip kisses!

LOL

bz

and Rose.

i know you will see both your momma and daddy in the resurrection.

and that day.......WHAT A DAY!!!!

BZ/where RU????


GRB (or space anomaly - not yet official) from Orion this morning (4/9):

http://grb.sonoma.edu/printable_details.ph...bout+this+burst

Below is a URL from google with images of Orion:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&...+Orion&um=1

Description of Orion from:

The Witness of the Stars by E. W. Bullinger

ORION (The Coming Prince)
Light breaking forth in the Redeemer

http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/chap31.htm#orion

Orion is the most brilliant of all the constellations, and when he comes to the meridian he is accompanied by several adjacent constellations of great splendour. There is then above the horizon the most glorious view of the celestial bodies that the starry firmament affords; and this magnificent view is visible to all the habitable world, because the equinoctial line (or solstitial colure) passes nearly through the middle of Orion.
ARATUS thus sings of him:

"Eastward, beyond the region of the Bull,
Stands great Orion. And who, when night is clear,
Beholds him gleaming bright, shall cast his eyes in vain
To find a Sign more glorious in all heaven."

The constellation is mentioned by name, as being perfectly well known both by name and appearance, in the time of Job; and as being an object of familiar knowledge at that early period of the world's history. See Job 9:9; 38:31, and Amos 5:8 (Heb. Chesil, which means a strong one, a hero, or giant).

(NOTE: Bullinger mentions Amos 5:8. Below is Amos 5)

Amos 5

A Lament and Call to Repentance

1 Hear this word, O house of Israel, this lament I take up concerning you:
2 "Fallen is Virgin Israel,
never to rise again,
deserted in her own land,
with no one to lift her up."
3 This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
"The city that marches out a thousand strong for Israel
will have only a hundred left;
the town that marches out a hundred strong
will have only ten left."
4 This is what the LORD says to the house of Israel:
"Seek me and live;
5 do not seek Bethel,
do not go to Gilgal,
do not journey to Beersheba.
For Gilgal will surely go into exile,
and Bethel will be reduced to nothing. "
6 Seek the LORD and live,
or he will sweep through the house of Joseph like a fire;
it will devour,
and Bethel will have no one to quench it.
7 You who turn justice into bitterness
and cast righteousness to the ground
8 (he who made the Pleiades and Orion,
who turns blackness into dawn
and darkens day into night,
who calls for the waters of the sea
and pours them out over the face of the land-
the LORD is his name-
9 he flashes destruction on the stronghold
and brings the fortified city to ruin),
10 you hate the one who reproves in court
and despise him who tells the truth.
11 You trample on the poor
and force him to give you grain.
Therefore, though you have built stone mansions,
you will not live in them;
though you have planted lush vineyards,
you will not drink their wine.
12 For I know how many are your offenses
and how great your sins.
You oppress the righteous and take bribes
and you deprive the poor of justice in the courts.
13 Therefore the prudent man keeps quiet in such times,
for the times are evil.
14 Seek good, not evil,
that you may live.
Then the LORD God Almighty will be with you,
just as you say he is.
15 Hate evil, love good;
maintain justice in the courts.
Perhaps the LORD God Almighty will have mercy
on the remnant of Joseph.
16 Therefore this is what the Lord, the LORD God Almighty, says:
"There will be wailing in all the streets
and cries of anguish in every public square.
The farmers will be summoned to weep
and the mourners to wail.
17 There will be wailing in all the vineyards,
for I will pass through your midst,"
says the LORD.

The Day of the LORD

18 Woe to you who long
for the day of the LORD!
Why do you long for the day of the LORD ?
That day will be darkness, not light.
19 It will be as though a man fled from a lion
only to meet a bear,
as though he entered his house
and rested his hand on the wall
only to have a snake bite him.
20 Will not the day of the LORD be darkness, not light-
pitch-dark, without a ray of brightness?
21 "I hate, I despise your religious feasts;
I cannot stand your assemblies.
22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings,
I will not accept them.
Though you bring choice fellowship offerings,
I will have no regard for them.
23 Away with the noise of your songs!
I will not listen to the music of your harps.
24 But let justice roll on like a river,
righteousness like a never-failing stream!
25 "Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the desert, O house of Israel?
26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god -
which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,"
says the LORD, whose name is God Almighty.

CWM


3 more URL's showing Comet Holmes' path:

http://www.aaadelhi.org/?q=node/27

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Comet_H...trajectory_TLR1. gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17P/Holmes

In the story from the book of Esther, when Haman built the gallows in order
to hang Modecai, a Jew, God turned the tables and allowed Haman to be
hung instead. The celebration of Purim was about this.

...Esther 5
...14 His (Haman's) wife Zeresh and all his friends said to him,
..."Have a gallows built, seventy-five feet high, and ask the king in the morning
...to have Mordecai hanged on it. Then go with the king to the dinner and be
...happy."
...This suggestion delighted Haman, and he had the gallows built.

...Esther 9
...24 For Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews,
...had plotted against the Jews to destroy them and had cast the pur (that is,
...the lot) for their ruin and destruction. 25 But when the plot came to the king's
...attention, he issued written orders that the evil scheme Haman had devised
...against the Jews should come back onto his own head, and that he and his
...sons should be hanged on the gallows. 26 (Therefore these days were called
...Purim, from the word pur .)

Just like the story of of how God "turned the tables" on Haman, I believe God is
about to "turn the tables" on the forces of this world (and the "deceitfulness" of
the antichrist) who are SO VERY ARROGANT right now!!!

...Psalm 94
...1 O LORD, the God who avenges, O God who avenges, shine forth.
...2 Rise up, O Judge of the earth; pay back to the proud what they deserve.
...3 How long will the wicked, O LORD, how long will the wicked be jubilant?
...4 They pour out arrogant words; all the evildoers are full of boasting.
...5 They crush your people, O LORD; they oppress your inheritance.
...6 They slay the widow and the alien; they murder the fatherless.
...7 They say, "The LORD does not see; the God of Jacob pays no heed."
...8 Take heed, you senseless ones among the people;
...you fools, when will you become wise?
...9 Does he who implanted the ear not hear?
...Does he who formed the eye not see?
...10 Does he who disciplines nations not punish?
...Does he who teaches man lack knowledge?
...11 The LORD knows the thoughts of man; he knows that they are futile.

Remember, the devil only requires just a "little" twist on scripture to make things
seem "reasonable" to those who DO NOT WATCH CLOSELY (or keep their
lamps burning). For the antichrist to fool those NOT watching, I believe, will be
like taking candy from a baby!!!

Psalm 99 mentiones Moses (a "type" of Moses - Charlton Heston - just died).
It also mentions the "holy mountain". This "could" be a reference to our
rapture because Jesus went "UP" onto a "mountain" with Peter, James, and
John for His "transfiguration" (a "type" of our rapture)!!!

...Matthew 17
...The Transfiguration
...1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother
...of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he
...was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes
...became as white as the light. 3Just then there appeared before them
...Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

GOD BLESS!!!

Calvin

Psalm 99
1 The LORD reigns,
let the nations tremble;
he sits enthroned between the cherubim,
let the earth shake.
2 Great is the LORD in Zion;
he is exalted over all the nations.
3 Let them praise your great and awesome name-
he is holy.
4 The King is mighty, he loves justice-
you have established equity;
in Jacob you have done
what is just and right.
5 Exalt the LORD our God
and worship at his footstool;
he is holy.
6 Moses and Aaron were among his priests,
Samuel was among those who called on his name;
they called on the LORD
and he answered them.
7 He spoke to them from the pillar of cloud;
they kept his statutes and the decrees he gave them.
8 O LORD our God,
you answered them;
you were to Israel a forgiving God,
though you punished their misdeeds.
9 Exalt the LORD our God
and worship at his holy mountain,
for the LORD our God is holy.

Loey, funny that you mention Orion. I remember seeing a documentary of an African tribe, I think it was the Tuaregs with their blue mantles, who claim that their God comes from Orion, as they have ancient drawings of that star constellation.

Sorry if it was a side track, but it just popped into my head.

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Here are some URL's and an explanation:

Gamma-ray Bursts FAQ

http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~ejb/faq.html

Gamma ray burst

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_burst

Gamma-Ray Bursts:

http://www.tls-tautenburg.de/research/klose/GRB.review.html

...Signals from titanic Stellar Explosions in the deep Universe

...What are Gamma-Ray Bursts?

...Cosmic Gamma-Ray Bursts (GRBs) were discovered with the Vela satellites in the late 1960s. The bursts are bright, transient events in the gamma-ray sky, lasting in the order of seconds. Because of their short life time the bursts were difficult to localize with the first generation of gamma-ray satellites.

...Consequently, it took 25 years until astronomers found out that GRBs are signals from the remote universe. In the early 1990s the BATSE experiment on the Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory (CGRO) demonstrated that the burster lie at cosmological distances. During its 10 years life time BATSE detected more than 2700 bursts coming from random locations on the sky.

...GRBs - the biggest explosions in the universe

...By the end of 1998 astronomers had already measured the redshifts of about a handful of bursters and it was clear that GRBs signal titanic explosions in the universe. But early in 1999 a burst occurred, which energy budget broke all previous records. The burst from January 23, GRB 990123, developed a bright optical afterglow, which could be followed over many days.

The REASON I think that GRB's are important is Psalm 19. It tells us
CLEARLY that God "SPEAKS" from the heavens and "WHAT" He
speaks about is a "BRIDEGROOM COMING FORTH":

...Psalm 19
...1 The HEAVENS DECLARE the glory of God; the SKIES PROCLAIM the
...work of his hands.
...2 Day after day THEY POUR FORTH SPEECH; night after night THEY
...DISPLAY KNOWLEDGE.
...3 There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard.
...4 THEIR VOICE GOES OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, THEIR WORDS TO
...THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.
...IN THE HEAVENS HE HAS PITCHED A TENT FOR THE SUN,
...5 WHICH IS LIKE A BRIDEGROOM COMING FORTH from his
...pavilion, like a champion rejoicing to run his course.
...6 It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the
...other; nothing is hidden from its heat.

This, below, is part of what Marilyn Agee said about GRB 990123:

"Marilyn Agee's comments on GRB 990123"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2004/calvinm616-2.htm

...GRB 990123 appeared in the constellation BOOTES (THE
...COMING SHEPHERD), also known to the ancients as
...ARCTURUS, a decan in the constellation VIRGO (THE VIRGIN).
...That is significant. The Greek BOOTES is taken from the
...Hebrew root "bo," meaning TO COME. The bright star in
...BOOTES' knee is ARCTURUS, which means HE COMES, i.e.,
...Christ comes. ARCTURUS was the keeper of the ARCTOS, the
...sheepfolds, as Christ is our good shepherd. Other star names
...are revealing. AL KATUROPS (near where the GRB was seen)
...means THE BRANCH, TREADING UNDER FOOT, or THE
...SHEPHERD'S CROOK. NEKKAR means THE PIERCED
...(i.e., the pierced shepherd). MIZAR, GUARDIAN, was earlier
...known as MIRAC, THE COMING FORTH (like an arrow).
...MURPHRIDE means TO SEPARATE. This fits beautifully, for
...at the Rapture, Christ will come and separate the Philadelphians
...from the Laodiceans, the wise from the foolish virgins. In Rev. 3:8,
...we see that the "open door" (of Heaven, Rev. 4:1) is only set in
...front of the Philadelphians. Jesus has no words of condemnation
...for the Philadelphians. They have already confessed their sins as
...per I John 1:9 and are therefore wearing spiritual white robes of
...righteousness. It seems that all the overcomers of each church
...group are poured into the Philadelphian group as the Rapture
...becomes near "at hand" (Rev. 1:3; 22:10), probably ten days
...before the Rapture (Rev. 2:10).

Calvin

Thanks for bumping up this thread! I could not find it yesterday... =)

http://www.spaceweather.com/

After a long period of no sunspots, this is the first to appear, in the new sun cycle. It is a DOUBLE sunspot, mysteriously shaped like a 8.
I took a screenshot:

Started by cwm | Last post by cwm
I had NOT thoroughly investigated this post since it was written and sent in.
Personally, I don't believe that you will need any help in the explanation, but,
I will say, to me, it looks like the "NET" is about to "DROP"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yesterday morning, I believe the Lord WANTED me to see this BLAST that had
come on 12/27/04 (info below at bottom).

...From: Mon., December 27, 2004 - Brightest Cosmic Explosion Ever Recorded***
...To: Sunday, May 4, 2008 - day before 8th anniv. of "555" marriage announcement
...It is 1224 days
...8 X 153 = 1224
...8 = "new birth; rebirth; new beginnings"
...153 = the fish / "HARVEST" number

In James Harrison's book, The Pattern and the Prophecy, by using gematria,
he found:

...THE NET = 1224
...FISHES = 1224
...THE LORD GOD = 1224

...What is so mysterious about 1224?
...Only the fact that 1224 = 8 X 153.
...Therefore, it is the chain that binds 8 to 153.

...In the same vein, regard the following:

..."Fishers of men" has a value of 14 X 153.
..."multitudes of fishes" equals 16 X 153. (THIS = 2448!!!)
...And "casting a net into the sea" is 20 X 153.

..."Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake
...and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the
...shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the
...bad away. THIS IS HOW IT WILL BE AT THE END OF THE AGE. The angels
...will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery
...furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:47-50)

...Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish,
...153, but even with so many the net was not torn. (John 21:11)

Other notes from THE INFINITE BOOK (3/4 down into this URL)

http://www.evanwiggs.com/articles/infinite.html

...153 is considered Jesus Celestial number and 888 is considered his earthly.
...Sons of God = 153
...The Net = 1224
...Fishes = 1224
...The Lord God = 1224
...1224 = 8x153 and ties 8 to 153

Below are other notes on 153 fishes:

http://www.bibleetnombres.online.fr/153us.htm

===================================================

***Scientists Observe Brightest Cosmic Explosion Ever Recorded

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/200...FTOKEN=69062910

Astronomers have detected the brightest explosion ever witnessed in the heavens. It was a flash of light from across our galaxy so powerful that it bounced off the Moon and illuminated Earth's upper atmosphere. The researchers say if the blast had occurred closer to Earth, it might have lead to the death of much of the planet's life.

The monstrous cosmic explosion was observed in late December, by U.S. and European satellites and ground telescopes around the world. It was impossible to miss. It was brighter than a full moon for a fraction of a second, although it shone more brilliantly in high energy gamma rays than in the lower energy visible light.

Astrophysicist David Palmer of the U.S. government's Los Alamos National Laboratory says the amount of energy equaled 100,000 years worth of sunlight. "In other words, this was as much energy during that tenth of a second as all the other stars in the galaxy at that time, times over 1,000," he said.

The scientists who observed the flash say it came from an isolated neutron star in the constellation Sagittarius about 50,000 light years away, the distance it takes light to travel in 50,000 years. Astronomer Andrew Fruchter of the institute that operates the Hubble Space Telescope describes a neutron star as the spinning remnant of a massive star that has collapsed into a diameter of only 20 kilometers.
"Massive stars live fast, die young, and leave spinning corpses. What we've seen is that their afterlives are even more interesting than we had thought," he said.

The neutron star that caused the giant cosmic blast is an exotic type called a magnetar. It is so named because it has an extremely powerful magnetic field, 1,000 times stronger than an ordinary neutron star and a 1,000-trillion times that of Earth's. It is capable of erasing the magnetic information on a credit card at a distance halfway to the Moon. Only about a dozen magnetars are known among the billions of stars in the Milky Way.

Astronomers believe the star's magnetic field caused the outburst, but do not understand how. One possibility is that the blast was like an ultra-powerful solar flare. This is where a magnetic field changes shape and bumps into itself. Since magnetic fields cause electrical currents, such a collision could have caused a monumental short circuit visible from Earth.

Or a quake on the star's surface might have caused the massive eruption of energy.

Whatever the cause, the blitz of radiation expanded outward in a bubble at about one-fourth the speed of light. This energy soon showered Earth's upper atmosphere, tearing apart atoms in a region called the ionosphere to a greater depth than an ordinary solar flare and causing them to glow. It was so powerful that it pushed the instruments of 15 spacecraft off scale, whether or not they were pointing in its direction. It also saturated a U.S. telescope watching in x-ray wavelengths.

Researcher Bryan Gaensler of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics says if the explosion had occurred much closer to our solar system, say just 10 light years away, it would have severely damaged the atmosphere and possibly triggered a mass extinction of living things.

2 black moons & August - Lauren's SHOCKING posts!!

ALL:

5/03, 12/05, and 8/08 are the last 3 months with 2 BLACK (new) moons:

There is NO WAY to "OVEREMPHASIZE" what May, 2003 meant to America,
I believe. The month contained SO MUCH going on. I did NOT know that it also
had 2 BLACK moons and we are in only the 3rd month since then with 2 BLACK
(new) moons. Below are 11 events. Numbers 2-6 occurred during May, 2003:

2003 - 2007
Columbia disaster - Shuttle "came apart" over "Palestine", TX, 2/1/03
invasion of Iraq is completed in May, 2003;
Bush makes Road Map plans in May, 2003, Quartet meeting
in May 4-10, 2003, record week (7 days) of tornadoes in middle of nation
Scorpion Moon (Blood Red Eclipse at Midnight over DC) in May 15-16, 2003
Israel Accepts Roadmap Peace Blueprint, May 26, 2003
Hurricane Isabel shuts down DC on 9/19/03
Hurricane Ivan causes tornadoes in DC area, September 17, 2004
"F"our hurricanes hit "F"lorida in '04
"F"our hurricanes hit "F"lorida in '05
plans being made for "division" of Jerusalem for November, 2007

Proverbs 1
25 since you ignored all my advice
and would not accept my rebuke,
26 I in turn will laugh at your disaster;
I will mock when calamity overtakes you-
27 when calamity overtakes you like a storm,
when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind,
when distress and trouble overwhelm you.

From:

Lauren (16 Aug 200
"re: Rick Hedrick "Two new moons in August 2008""

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren816.htm

...Hello Rick,
...Two 'new' moons in a Gregorian calendar month happen
...periodically, the last time in December 2005 and May 2003.
...Its significance this month could be the fact the last one
...STARTS the Hebraic month of Elul, when the trumpet is
...blown everyday up to, the day before Rosh Hashanah,
...and then the 10 days of Awe count out to Yom Kippur.

Below are the last 2 months with 2 BLACK moons.

...5/03 - 2 BLACK moons
...+ 31 months...
...12/05 - 2 BLACK moons - [NOTE: There was a"baby" (new) moon "at the feet"
.................................................of Virgo on 12/1/05 as in Revelation 12:1]
...+ 32 months...
...8/08 - 2 BLACK moons

From the LAST new moon of May, 2003 (on 5/31/03) to the FIRST new moon
of August, 2008 (on 8/1/0, there are 64 (4X4X4) total moons of 29.53 days.

...May 31, 2003 + 64 moons = August 1, 2008

As May, 2003 began, Bush's words:

From:

http://vienna.usembassy.gov/en/policy/midd...ast_archive.htm

Statement on the Middle East
Statement by the President on the Middle East

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20030430-4.html

...Today, the roadmap for peace developed by the United States over the last
...several months in close cooperation with Russia, the European Union, and the
...United Nations has been presented to Israel and the Palestinians. The roadmap
...represents a starting point toward achieving the vision of two states, a secure
...State of Israel and a viable, peaceful, democratic Palestine, that I set out on
...June 24, 2002. It is a framework for progress towards lasting peace and security
...in the Middle East. Implementing the roadmap will depend upon the good faith
...efforts and contributions of both sides. The pace of progress will depend strictly
...on the performance of the parties.

And on May 9, 2003 these words from Bush:

...President Bush Presses for Peace in the Middle East
...Remarks by the President in Commencement Address at the University of South Carolina

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...0030509-11.html

...Zechariah 2
...7 "Come, O Zion! Escape, you who live in the Daughter of Babylon!"
...8 For this is what the LORD Almighty says:
......"After he has honored me and has sent me against the nations that have plundered
......you-FOR WHOEVER TOUCHES YOU TOUCHES THE APPLE OF HIS EYE -
......9 I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them.
......Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me.

Below are links to some of Lauren's recent posts:

From:
Lauren (14 Aug 200
"WHO IS WITHOLDING/RESTRAINING"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren814.htm

Until he is ‘taken out’ of the way”, the linked Israeli request below IS PROOF THAT the United States is ‘restraining’ Israel and that IT IS the Set Apart G-d of Israel who decides exactly when He will fulfill Jeremiah 50:31-32 and then the US will be “taken out of the way”. Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against thee, O YOU MOST PROUD, saith the Lord GOD of hosts: FOR YOUR DAY IS COME, the time that I will visit thee. 32 And the most proud SHALL STUMBLE AND FALL and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle A FIRE IN HIS CITIES, and it shall devour all round about him. It is He who IS NOW LETTING the United States hang on until He wants the ‘antichrist’ to be revealed. 2 Thessalonians 2: 6 And now you know what withholds that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity does already work: only He who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, PROOF POSITIVE

U.S. puts brakes on Israeli plan for attack on Iran nuclear facilities
- Aluf Benn

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1010938.html

The U.S. has rejected an Israeli request for military equipment and support that would improve Israel's ability to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. The Americans viewed the request, which was rejected at the highest level, as a sign that Israel is in the advanced stages of preparations to attack Iran. They warned Israel against attacking, saying such a strike would undermine American interests. When President Bush visited Jerusalem in May, he held a private meeting on the Iranian threat with Prime Minister Olmert and Defense Minister Barak. The Israelis presented requests for specific items of military equipment, along with diplomatic and security backing.

Two weeks ago, Barak visited Washington and warned that Iran was liable to advance its nuclear program under cover of the endless deliberations about sanctions. In an attempt to compensate Israel for having rejected all its proposals, Washington then offered to bolster Israel's defenses against ballistic missiles. However, it would not agree to supply Israel with any offensive systems. (Ha'aretz) This link gives a timeline for the revealing;

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren813.htm

Lauren (12 Aug 200
"re: Correction 270,000,000 million Americans WILL 'START DYING' WITHIN TWO WEEKS"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren812.htm

Whereas Mr Graham said, “WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO of the attack, PEOPLE WOULD START DYING” He was asked just how many Americans would die if Iran were to launch the EMP attack it appears to be preparing, Graham gave A CHILLING REPY, “You have to go back into the 1800s to look at the size of population” that could survive in a nation deprived of mechanized agriculture, transportation, power, water, and communication. He also said, “that 70 to 90 percent of the population would not be sustainable after this kind of attack,” then saying, America would be REDUCED TO A CORE of around 30 million people — about the number that existed in the decades after America’s independence from Great Britain.

Lauren (11 Aug 200
"IRANS COMING EMP ATTACK OVER OUR NATION"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren811.htm

U.S. Intel: Iran Plans Nuclear Strike on U.S.

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/iran_nucl.../29/117217.html

HEAVEN HELP US...MAY WE BE OUT OF HERE SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calvin

Greetings, Watchers!

If those international scientists pull that switch, the entire
world will be launched into the unknown zone on Sept. 10, 2008 when CERN goes live!


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I have recently read an article about the NWO types and the
number 33. It was reported on Aug. 8, 2008 that CERN will
be started on Sept. 10th, which is exactly 33 days from
that announcement (amid the start of the Olympics and Russia
attacking Georgia, and the Infinity (# crop circle.)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread356811/pg1

The no. 33 in biblical numbers means "promise". The enemy
of our souls counterfeits it making it "the number of the
master".

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Most recent activities have been directed towards the new Large Hadron Collider (LHC). The LHC is located in a circular tunnel 100 metres underground, between Geneva Airport and the nearby Jura mountains. A 17 mile circumference ring houses two pipes enclosed within superconducting magnets cooled by liquid helium. Each pipe contains a separate proton beam, each travelling in opposite directions around the ring. Additional magnets are used to direct the beams to four intersection points where interactions between them will take place. In total, over 1600 superconducting magnets are installed, with most weighing over 27 tonnes. It is a 21st century ouroboros; the mystical symbol of infinity, the alchemical symbol of purification.

I am still waiting for the evening news to mention that “The CERN Stargate, designed to send matter from this universe into another dimension, comes online next week.” As sci-fi as that sounds, that is precisely what CERN will do and everyone should be aware of it.
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Take a look at the CERN complex at the stargate site above.
It looks like a blood moon rising off the horizon.

Maybe we should definitely have our houses in order by
Sept. 10th (if not delayed)!


Look to the skies... Goin' to higher ground!





Found this nugget of info...

May 15, 2007 ... Traveling in tight bunches along the twin beams, the protons will cross each ... or “sunken cathedrals” in the words of a Cern theorist, ...
www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/science/15cern.html?pagewanted=5 - Similar pages
More results from www.nytimes.com »


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BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Cern lab set for beam milestone
Cern, the organisation that operates the collider, said it will attempt to circulate two proton beams all the way around the ring on 10 September. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7547118.stm - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
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Notice the terminology, "TWIN beams" from the "NY Times"
article.










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CERN creates a new super-fast internet, invites tons of people to ...
Apparently, when CERN isn't colliding particles (and ripping massive .... "Red Button Day" suddenly reeks of "Judgement Day" when Skynet went self-aware. >. ...
www.engadget.com/2008/04/07/cern-creates-a-new-super-fast-intern et-invites-tons-of-people-t/2 - 121k - Cached - Similar pages
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In the article you'll find the NWO number 11 appearing...
(33 is 3x11)
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App arently, when CERN isn't colliding particles (and ripping massive holes in the space-time continuum), it's busy working on a new "internet" which will be 10,000 times faster than our current version. The project -- known as "the grid" -- is built atop completely fiber optic networks, and utilizes modern routing centers. By keeping traffic out of our current phone and data systems, the researchers have been able to achieve speeds heretofore unseen on previous networks. The system connects from CERN to 11 centers around the globe, and will be switched on when the Large Hadron Collider is activated, on what the group is calling "Red Button Day." Project heads believe a network with this speed will lead to all sorts of futuristic innovations -- like true cloud computing, holographic video conferencing, and really, really fast pirating of the entire Nightmare on Elm Street series.
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It is said that one can predict when the NWO is going to make a significant move by being alert to the numbers it
deems important (11, 13, 33, 666, etc.). If this is part
of a scenario that's coming the world's way next week, when
CERN goes online, will we go OFFline? Could this be a
part of the predicted Sept. '08 meltdown? Everything is
very volatile at THIS moment in time - the weather, world
governments, economies, the Mid-east, and now, CERN!!
(Last year's precedent for this is when the internet covering the Mid-east was mysteriously yanked!)

Some have even suspected that previous CERN tests may have
caused China's earthquake and Chile's volcanic eruption
this year. With dreams and visions having been formerly
shared about a great earthquake, Yellowstone blowing,
stormy conditions, and non-communication at the time of
the rapture, IF they push that button, next week seems like
a proper set up for our anticipated event - RAPTURE!!


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Aside from the fact that I don't think that a "black hole" will result from these beams from a physics point of view, the whole idea does not line up with what the Bible says will happen. The Bible talks about wars, earthquakes, and things coming down from space. How can the antichrist do his thing if the earth is destroyed by a black hole.

The Bible talks about things being centered around what happens in Jerusalem, not CERN. The situation happening in Georgia and Iran make more sense w/r to prophecy than a black hole being formed.
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TIME MACHINE!! NO GOING BACK?!!
THE MOST COMPLEX, ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY EVER BUILT BY MAN!!
(And this isn't having a main stream news alert or countdown?)...

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Dark Roasted Blend: Time Machine: CERN's Large Hadron Collider
CERN's Large Hadron Collider is set to become the very first time ...... 2008 is the earliest year we can return to because there is no way to go back any ...
www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/03/time-machine-worlds-biggest-par ticle.html?showComment=1207626000000 - 281k - Cached - Similar pages


Never heard of "traversable wormholes?"
Well, soon you might start hearing about them, as the world's most powerful particle accelerator becomes functional this spring - unleashing forces, capable of distorting not only space (just like gravity distorts space around Earth), but also TIME.


CERN's Large Hadron Collider is set to become the very first time machine in history.

According to the research published by Irina Arefieva and Igor Volovich, "in general relativity, a time-like curve in space-time will run from past to future. But in some space-times the curves can intersect themselves, giving a closed-like curve, which is interpreted as a time machine - which suggests the possibility of time travel"


Here are some quick facts:
- 20-year work-in-progress
- A team of 7,000 physicists from more than 80 nations
- 27 kilometers in circumference, 175 meters underground
- facilitating head-on collision of protons, traveling very near the speed-of-light
- each tunnel is big enough to run a train through it.
- temperatures generated: more than 1000,000 times hotter than the sun's core
- superconducting magnets are cooled to a temperature colder than in deep space


The most complicated thing that humans have ever built.

To better appreciate the enormous scale of this beast, consider that it runs 17 miles across the border of two countries, has detectors in four locations the size of buildings, housed in huge caverns - and if you happen to be inside the tunnel while this thing is in operation, you would have a highly radioactive - and fatal - experience.
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Notice with CERN, time can be manipulated, and they call it
a "beast" just above!
Its lay out on the earth between France and Switzerland
looks like a crop circle!
THIS IS HUGE NEWS!! And the main stream media is IGNORING it!!

Y'all, LIFE COULD CHANGE AS WE KNOW IT SEPT. 10th!!




the possibility of creating a black hole(s) with CERN is a
fear expressed by the protesters to CERN, not a definite.
The earth has no black hole in its future at least for
another 1000 years according to scripture. It's more in
keeping with high tech that'll be available to support the
Antichrist/Beast in his short lived rule of the world.

Who knows if and how CERN will affect the delicate balance
of natural systems on the earth. Could it even act as a
potential meteor magnet that pulls space objects into the
earth? The unknown is what will actually happen when they
hit that switch, and will it be an immediate or delayed
effect. But, we will not get sucked into a black hole.








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Well, I'm not worried about black holes, for the simple reason that the Bible does not predict that the earth will be destroyed or swallowed by one. What the earth will go through is predicted by the Book of Revelation and other books of the Bible. Even without a black hole threatening our planet, Earth and all people on it will be in danger enough from the seal, trumpet, and bowl judgments. Just the nuclear war will cause plenty of damage.

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IT WILL BE "SEVERAL WEEKS" AFTER SEPTEMBER 10TH BEFORE ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN!


WORTH NOTING:

1. The Large Hadron Collider will be switched on on September 10th but it will be "several weeks" before the first particles are collided together. NOTE THAT THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS/ROSH HASHANAH VERY LIKELY FALLS WITHIN THOSE 'SEVERAL WEEKS'! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/byronw92.htm

2. BBC Radio4 is broadcasting a program on September 10th, based on its very popular sci-fi series Torchwood,and the storyline involves the CERN collider. quote: "BUT SO MUCH COULD GO WRONG - IT COULD OPEN A GATEWAY TO A PARALLEL DIMENSION, OR CREATE A BLACK HOLE - AND NOW VOICES FROM THE PAST ARE CALLING OUT TO PEOPLE AND SCIENTISTS HAVE STARTED TO DISAPPEAR (!)...WHERE HAVE THE MISSING SCIENTISTS GONE? WHAT IS THE SECRET OF THE GLOWING MAN? WHAT IS LURKING IN THE UNDERGROUND TUNNEL? AND DO THE DEAD EVER REALLY STAY DEAD?"endquote. Sound like a set up explanation for a possible 'rapture'. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/bigbang/torchwood.shtml

3 . Article: "LARGE HADRON COLLIDER COULD CREATE WORMHOLES-A GATEWAY FOR TIME TRAVELLERS?" http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/07/la...ron-collider-co uld-create-wormholes-a-gateway-for-time-travelers/ Biblical implications here also? ...the bottomless pit opens up? ...the 'aliens' are finally able to make contact?

4. CERN logo: http://sdu.ictp.it/openaccess/img/cern_logo.gif KINDA INTERESTING WOULDN'T YOU SAY? (...or should I put on my tinfoil hat?)





In addition, here's an article that gives a very good
picture of how all this advanced space age technology
may play out the end times according to the Revelation
judgments:

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1697.cfm

Since man can control the weather using Tesla Technology, might this control have a role to play in the coming judgments as outlined in the Book of Revelation? Many of God's judgments against wicked man during the Tribulation Period revolve around weather that God has turned upon man.


CONCLUSION

Reiterating what I said at the beginning of this article, I believe it most likely that the judgments of Revelation are directly from God. This interpretation makes the most sense and prevents one from trying to figure out which ones are from God and which from wicked, highly technological man, and what the criteria should be used to differentiate between them.

However, I find it very intriguing to realize that many of the judgments are weather related and that the actions the Bible describes can be accomplished by scientists working for the Illuminati.

To the people on the earth, the question is moot as to whether the judgment falling is directly from God or indirectly from Him coming through the Illuminati. The earth is going to be "cleansed", as the Guiding Spirits are telling New Age mediums, but not by Mother Gaia.

God will be the One doing the cleansing, for the reasons listed below. Listen:
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NBC news (Today Show) reported on CERN today with Meredith
V. voicing all the concerns about a black hole, end of the
world, should we be here tomorrow, etc.
Now that mainstream news has weighed in on CERN, is the controlled media saying there's nothing to it, or setting us
up for the chaos to come?...







I'm listening to an MP3 right now of an interview George Clooney did with a physicist.

He just said that IF a black hole DOES come from this, then we (the general public) won't know about it until the last stages of it's formation. It will start out VERY tiny.

It won't be able to do any damage to our solar system until it gets bigger. The physicist said he has heard estimates anywhere from five years to a billion years. So they really are clueless how long it will take.

At first I totally dismissed this EVER being a black hole because it isn't in scripture...or IS it.

At the VERY end of the MILLENNIUM, after Christ has reigned for 1000 years here on the earth, the Old heaven and earth PASSES away and then the NEW earth is formed.

So, yeah, this very well COULD turn into a black hole. But it's nothing to be afraid of. The Lord is TOTALLY in charge.

On a sad note. Wanna know why they STARTED this research? They wanted to know HOW the earth was formed and what is it's future. Sad huh?

And God has taken care of it. For when boys play with toys, would not a safe playground environment be appropriate?
Although man does not care for security, God does.

God called it "dead matter".

Signs, Ike, Houston, and America!

It seems our leaders (ESPECIALLY Pres. Bush) has put this nation in the
hands of our enemy, the devil. It can't be denied it we REALLY look close!
This nation is chained to defeat and cursing by our actions!!!

Calvin

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...Proverbs 23 (number 23 means "death")
...9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
...10 Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:
...11 For their redeemer is mighty; he shall plead their cause with thee.

Interesting regarding the sign of "13":

...From: Monday, April 13, 1970 - the words, "Houston, we've had a problem here."
...To: Saturday, September 13, 2008 - Hurricane Ike hits Houston
...It is 14,033 days
...Or 38 years, 5 months

CHAPTER 13.1
"Houston, We've Had a Problem"
By JAMES A. LOVELL

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-13-1.html

...Apollo 13, scheduled to be the third lunar landing, was launched at 1313
...Houston time on Saturday, April 11, 1970; I had never felt more confident.
...On my three previous missions, I had already logged 572 hours in space,
...beginning with Gemini 7, when Frank Borman and I stayed up 14 days- a
...record not equaled until Skylab.

...The message came in the form of a sharp bang and vibration. Jack Swigert
...saw a warning light that accompanied the bang, and said, "Houston, we've
...had a problem here." I came on and told the ground that it was a main B bus
...undervolt. The time was 2108 hours on April 13.

From:
(3 June 2004)
"Number "13" hangs over the U.S.!!!"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2004/calvinm63-1.htm

...Here are some of Mr. (James) Harrison's comments about the number 13:

......13 IS THE FALSE TRINITY NUMBER OF REBELLION "From the founding states to
......the stripes in Old Glory, Americans surround themselves with reminders of 13. Even
......the back of a U.S. one-dollar bill is a study in 13s. You can see it in the steps of the
......pyramid, in the arrows in the eagle's left claw, in the stars above its head, and so on."

......"THE FOLLOWING IS A LIST OF SATAN'S MANY NAMES.

......We begin with the "Serpent" of Genesis and Isaiah and end with the "Dragon" of Revelation.

......The question is, 'ARE THEY ALL MULTIPLES OF 13?'

......SERPENT (Hebrew gematria) = 1300 (13 X 100)

......the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals = 1521 or 13 X 13 X 9

......SERPENT (Greek gematria) = 780 (13 X 60)

......BELIAL = 78 (13 X 6)

......MURDERER = 1820 (13 X 140)

......BY BEELZEBUB = 611 (13 X 47)

......DEVIL = 195 (13 X 15)

......DRAGON = 975 (13 X 75)

......LUCIFER (original Latin gematria) = 156 (13 X 12)

......THE BIBLE HAS EMPHATICALLY ANSWERED THE ORIGINAL QUESTION. "YES,
......ALL THE NAMES AND TITLES OF SATAN ARE MULTIPLES OF 13."

On "13" Iyyar, 5763, the United States had a Blood Red SCORPION MOON ECLIPSE over
Washington DC. The moon was WITHIN THE CLAWS OF SCORPIO, THE SCORPION.

From:
2 black moons & August - Lauren's SHOCKING posts!!

http://www.xsorbit2.com/users/rapturenow/i...;num=1218978695

http://pub48.bravenet.com/forum/4086901292/show/774972

There is NO WAY to "OVEREMPHASIZE" what May, 2003 meant to America,
I believe. The month contained SO MUCH going on. I did NOT know that it also
had 2 BLACK moons and we are in only the 3rd month since then with 2 BLACK
(new) moons. Below are 11 events. Numbers 2-6 occurred during May, 2003:

2003 - 2007
Columbia disaster - Shuttle "came apart" over "Palestine", TX, 2/1/03
invasion of Iraq is completed in May, 2003;
Bush makes Road Map plans in May, 2003, Quartet meeting
in May 4-10, 2003, record week (7 days) of tornadoes in middle of nation
Scorpion Moon (Blood Red Eclipse at Midnight over DC) in May 15-16, 2003
Israel Accepts Roadmap Peace Blueprint, May 26, 2003
Hurricane Isabel shuts down DC on 9/19/03
Hurricane Ivan causes tornadoes in DC area, September 17, 2004
"F"our hurricanes hit "F"lorida in '04
"F"our hurricanes hit "F"lorida in '05
plans being made for "division" of Jerusalem for November, 2007

Proverbs 1
25 since you ignored all my advice
and would not accept my rebuke,
26 I in turn will laugh at your disaster;
I will mock when calamity overtakes you-
27 when calamity overtakes you like a storm,
when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind,
when distress and trouble overwhelm you.

A "PERFECT" "'Week of Tornadoes' during ROAD MAP discussions" -
Sunday through Saturday (May 4-10, 2003)!!!

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s1144.htm

Scorpion Moon the same month "4" ("earth; door") years ago:

...(22 May 2003)
...""Night of the Scorpion Moon" targets the U.S."

http://web.archive.org/web/20030816145915/.../calvinm522.htm

...Full Lunar Eclipse Visible throughout Eastern United States on May 15

http://web.archive.org/web/20030824225349/...ews/lunar.shtml

...Photos of the eclipse:

http://www.spaceweather.com/eclipses/gallery_15may03.html

...From:
...Notes on Revelation Iyyar/Sivan, 5763 (May/June, 2003)
...13 Iyyar, 5763 (May 15, 2003)
...Lunar eclipse/"Night of the Scorpion Moon"

http://web.archive.org/web/20031015025201/...y/rev/iyyar.htm

...Israel Accepts Roadmap Peace Blueprint
...Monday, 26 May 2003, 8:09 am
...Press Release: Israel Government

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00236.htm