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LoisFaith2000
Asteroid 2007 TU24 has NASA concerned. Numerous solutions indicate an Earth impact.. Here is the latest regarding this unfolding catastophic situation
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Asteroid 2007 TU24 has NASA concerned. A former colleague of mine is now a contract worker for NASA who develops and maintains the software applications for the Solar System Dynamic simulator and other NASA applications. He called me last night to inform me that NASA has there full focus and attention on this asteroid. All software applications support staff have been directed to devote their time specifically to running solutions on this Near Earth Object. They are running solutions with different inputs and the results are so close to direct impact that NASA has decided not to update the online simulator with these results. When you look at the current solution online the last orbit determination parameter is from January 1, 2008. This data is 11 days old.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

11 day old data for an object that has been getting closer and closer to us in each successive run is not normal protocol. Normal procedure would have the solutions posted online every two to three days at the beginning of the 30 day window which was December 29, 2007. As the window of time shrinks the data is refreshed with more frequency. The lack of refreshing the data online is suspicious and should raise some eyebrows amongst those who have intimate knowledge of how the astral community operates.

My friend, who I cannot identify, because of security issues told me that NASA is about 50/50 as to whether this asteroid will impact Earth. The dynamic variable that is in play is whether or not Earths gravity will pull the asteroid in. The trajectory angle that the asteroid is approaching from is the southern hemisphere. The solutions currently show numerous scenarios impacting Earth. The solutions that favor a Southern hemisphere impact are the most serious. These solutions are a direct straight on impact. The Northern hemisphere solutions vary widely from because there is the likelihood that the asteroid will fragment as it traverses Earths atmosphere. There is no possible way of knowing with 100% certainty how much this object will fragment if the Northern hemisphere solution pans out. The solutions that have this NEO missing Earth have it passing perilously close to satellites in orbit and the International Space Station.

This is a very fluid situation that literally changes by the minute. NASA is keeping a tight lip on the situation as they do not know with certainty what will transpire. The game plan in these situations is to avoid civil unrest and end of day’s paranoia. This is to ensure that the privileged class can make it easily to their safe havens, which are underground bunkers.

If you are praying man or woman I suggest to you that your prayers are directed toward the protection of Earth from this object. If you are not a praying person I suggest to you that you become one. May the Great Spirit protect us all

Link

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message487311/pg1

Thanks


PS: Are we going to take this one seriously or not?
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http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/01...oid-will-m.html

Astroid will not hit Mars this month
LoisFaith2000
"Dex" ( a believer ) was part of the "old crowd" at GLP

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The Golden Thread Forum
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Dex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008
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A 'Prediction'
I don't know what this means, but, I'll tell it anyway...
"The Light of the Second Sun (Son) will be seen in a few weeks time."
Dex

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Michael Salla [www.exopolitics.org] commented about Dex's post.........

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Hello all, Dex's prediction is an interesting one when we consider
that an asteroid is due to pass very close to Mars at the end of this
month. According to the latest estimate, the asteroid will miss by
approximately 4000 kilometers. See:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

While the asteroid will closely miss Mars, according to the Electric
Universe model, there is very likely to be a plasma discharge between
Mars and the Asteroid. I recommend the following website and the
accompanying video, Thunderbolts of the Gods, to learn more about the
plasma discharge model of the universe:
[link to www.holoscience.com]

The higher electrical potential of Mars (relative to the asteroid)
will result in the Asteroid being hit by a plasma discharge from Mars
that lights the Asteroid up. Given that Mars and Earth are relatively
close in their respective orbits, the Asteroid will light up
spectacularly and may well appear to be a New Sun. Due to the
Asteroid's proximity to Mars, it will likely have a red hue. That will
make it appear to not only be a new sun, but also a red sun. Would the
asteroid turn out to be the 'Red Kachina' prophesied by the Hopis?
This of course follows the Blue Kachina/Comet Holmes from
November/December 2007.

So what happens on January 30 will be very interesting since that is
what I believe Dex's prediction is alluding to.
LoisFaith2000
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322254,00.html

Astronomers Astonished by the Violence in the Universe!
LoisFaith2000
http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/barry/2008impact.html

Threat???
Is this to be taken seriously, or not????
LoisFaith2000
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080114/ts_nm/...xhHQJ7MK.tZ.3QA

NASA probe zips above surface of planet Mercury By Will Dunham
Mon Jan 14, 5:17 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A car-sized NASA probe zoomed about 126 miles above the rocky, crater-scarred surface of Mercury on Monday, becoming the first spacecraft since 1975 to fly past the closest planet to the sun.


The U.S. space agency's MESSENGER probe traveled at about 16,000 miles per hour as it passed over Mercury on a mission designed to resolve some of the mysteries about the solar system's innermost planet, officials said.
LoisFaith2000
Another reason why I watch asteroids is the awareness on the Prophecy of the Great Warning which Seers say will manifest through two celestial objects clashing in the skies.

One nagging question I want an answer is: Is it going to be this year or not? Is the coming asteroid the prophesied incoming object of the Great Warning or is there another object yet to watch? These can only be answered by reading postings of those who know about these matters and GLP by the way is so far the richest source of these kind of information.
LoisFaith2000
saw an article about Venus and Jupiter coming so close
...that they appear to "Kiss". This is to happen in February.

...Do you know anything about it?

THANKS for reminding!!! Here is what I wrote about that (below)!!! It seems a VERY HUGE sign!!!
GOD BLESS!!!
Calvin

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The judgment at Midnight! (THIS MONTH?)


ALL:

The news of "JUDGMENT" is NOT readily accepted by people "of" the world
and EVEN (or maybe ESPECIALLY) Christians! That may be ALL beside
the point as we enter 2008!!!

It is almost like NOW there was provided (for those watchful) a ringside seat
to "see" some things that "MAY" be about to transpire!

Going back "5" (which means "GRACE") years....

On 2/1/03, I was in bed watching TV (after an operation the day before) and
actually "HEARD" the words on CNN:

..."The Shuttle (Columbia) has COME APART OVER PALESTINE (TX)!"

As we come to that anniversary on February 1, 2008, there are OTHER
"heavenly" (and "earthly") witnesses going on! As 2007 became 2008, a
"wedding ring" (URL below sent to me by Carol) produced by solar flares
was seen in the heavens:

http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/space/messages/18125.html

Perhaps NOT that unusual UNTIL you factor in these "heavenly" events
going on NOW (below) and the "events" about to transpire as Bush makes
his first visit to Israel (while in office) to make SURE that the Palestinians
get a posrtion of Israel's land. As you read below remember,

...Jupiter is the "KING" planet and
...Venus is the "bright morning star" and represents "JESUS"!!!

To me, these signs indicate a heavenly coronation and wedding!

THIS MONTH'S SKY
Celestial Events -- January 2008

http://www.aaa.org/aaawhatsup.htm

The drama this month is the approach of Jupiter (see above). The two planets (VENUS and JUPITER) close at a rate of 1° per day. On January 31st, they are only 1.2° apart, and conjunction occurs on the next day (see above), when they are only 0.6° apart.

VENUS AND JUPITER GET TOGETHER FEBRUARY 1ST

Venus and Jupiter, 7 AM
January 1 - February 2

http://www.aaa.org/0801jupvenus.gif

On New Year's Day the two planets are 31° apart, but they are moving in opposite directions, approaching each other at the rate of about 1 degree per day. Since they are the two brightest planets, their approach will command the attention of anyone looking up before sunrise.

On January 31st, they are 1.2° from each other. The next morning, they pass each other only 0.6° apart. A gathering of two such bright objects so close together is not to be missed.



This month, on January 23rd, we will celebrate the "9th" (which means
"JUDGMENT") anniversary of a HUGE GRB from Bootes PLUS...

......A. 9 year anniversary of a HUGE GRB from Bootes ("He cometh")
......B. 58 (the gematria of NOAH) year anniversary of the first official
............meeting of the Knesset in restored Jerusalem, capital of Israel

In October, 2003, this is how Marilyn Agee described GRB 990123:

...On Jan. 23, 1950, at the first official meeting, the Knesset
...restored Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Exactly 49 years later,
...the largest ever gamma-ray burst of light took place in the
...heavens. It was so huge that it is called the Second Big Bang.

...This GRB 990123 (Jan. 23, 1999) was the largest cosmic
...gamma-ray burst ever seen by man. It took place 9 billion
...light-years away. That means that its 6-million-times-brighter-
...than-a-supernova burst of energy took 9 billion years to reach
...Earth. Only God could plan and execute the precise time that
...its light would reach Earth. It has God's stamp on it, for "God
...is light" (I John 1:5). It is now October, 2003, and this GRB is
...still the largest ever seen.

...This GRB was the "most violent event ever observed in the
...universe." The explosive release was so brilliant that it was as
...if a mass greater than two Suns like ours was converted
...instantly to pure energy. This was the first time the optical
...as well as gamma-ray emission had been observed during
...the burst itself. It was as bright as a million normal galaxies.
...Astronomers found no polarization. They think that means
...that the burst was strongly beamed "exactly toward us"
...over a distance of about 80% of the visible universe.

...This must be a sign from God. It was so stupendous, the
...brightest thing ever seen in the heavens by man. It had the
...power of nearly 10 million suns. If it had happened in our
...neighborhood, night would have become day. The burst
...lasted 110 seconds. The first GRB ever recognized was
...seen 33 years before this one, in 1967. Since that, we have
...had over 2000, but no others like this one on Jan. 23, 1999.
...It followed by 2 days the sign of the Anchor Cross in the Sun,
...photographed 1-21-99. These 2 days may be significant too.
...Maybe Christ's coming at the Rapture will follow this sign
...by about 2 years, i.e., in 2001. We need to confess all our
...sins since we accepted Christ (I John 1:9), so we will be
...filled with the Holy Spirit, and keep watching, as Christ
...instructed.

...GRB 990123 appeared in the constellation BOOTES (THE
...COMING SHEPHERD), also known to the ancients as
...ARCTURUS, a decan in the constellation VIRGO (THE VIRGIN).
...That is significant. The Greek BOOTES is taken from the
...Hebrew root "bo," meaning TO COME. The bright star in
...BOOTES' knee is ARCTURUS, which means HE COMES, i.e.,
...Christ comes. ARCTURUS was the keeper of the ARCTOS, the
...sheepfolds, as Christ is our good shepherd. Other star names
...are revealing. AL KATUROPS (near where the GRB was seen)
...means THE BRANCH, TREADING UNDER FOOT, or THE
...SHEPHERD'S CROOK. NEKKAR means THE PIERCED
...(i.e., the pierced shepherd). MIZAR, GUARDIAN, was earlier
...known as MIRAC, THE COMING FORTH (like an arrow).
...MURPHRIDE means TO SEPARATE. This fits beautifully, for
...at the Rapture, Christ will come and separate the Philadelphians
...from the Laodiceans, the wise from the foolish virgins. In Rev. 3:8,
...we see that the "open door" (of Heaven, Rev. 4:1) is only set in
...front of the Philadelphians. Jesus has no words of condemnation
...for the Philadelphians. They have already confessed their sins as
...per I John 1:9 and are therefore wearing spiritual white robes of
...righteousness. It seems that all the overcomers of each church
...group are poured into the Philadelphian group as the Rapture
...becomes near "at hand" (Rev. 1:3; 22:10), probably ten days
...before the Rapture (Rev. 2:10).

We ALL know, THIS MONTH, that the US has decided to bring the god
of Islam into the same light as the God of Israel:

...Psalm 16
...4 The sorrows of those will increase who run after other gods.
......I will not pour out their libations of blood
......or take up their names on my lips.

Note the scripture used by E. W. Bullinger in his description of Bootes:

...Bootes (the Coming One)

http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/chap11.htm#bootes

...This constellation still further develops this wondrous personage.
...He is pictured as a man walking rapidly, with a spear in his right
...hand and a sickle in his left hand. The Greeks called him Bo-o-tes,
...which is from the Hebrew root Bo (to come), meaning the coming.
...It is referred to in Psalm 96:13:

......"For He cometh,
......FOR HE COMETH TO JUDGE THE EARTH;
......He shall judge the world in righteousness,
......And the people with His truth."

ALSO NOTICING....

...From: Monday, July 17, 2006 - 7.7 quake on a 7/17
...To: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 -
...It is 555 days
...55 = the Hebrew gematria for "BRIDE"

...Magnitude 7.7 - SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIA

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2006/usqgaf/

...2006 July 17 08:19:28 UTC
...Parameters Nst=234, Nph=234

...By counting "911" (9/11/01) as "DAY 1", the quake "7/17"
...date of the quake above was 1771 days later! Of course,
...both "717" and "1771", are "chiasmus" which is a holy way
...of writing which can be read forwards or backwards. Are we
...supposed to "READ" a message in this? Could it be a
..."message" like that of the "17's" in the Noah account? There
...were two "17's" used in the account of Noah. The first "17"
...used was to describe the judgment. The second "17"
...described a "safe landing" on solid ground for the ark.

...In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the SEVENTEENTH
...day of the second month - on that day all the springs of the
...great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens
...were opened. And rain fell on the earth forty days and
...forty nights. (Genesis 7:11,12)

...The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of
...the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down, and
...on the SEVENTEENTH day of the seventh month the ark
...came to rest on the mountains of Ararat. (Genesis 8:3,4)

...And Jesus said:

...Matthew 24
...37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming
...of the Son of Man.
...38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and
...drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah
...entered the ark;
...39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the
...flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at
...the coming of the Son of Man.

The THIRD DAY after this 7.7 quake on 7/17, the moon occulted
Pleiades, "the congregation of the Judge or Ruler":

THIS MONTH'S SKY
Celestial Events -- July 2006

http://www.aaa.org/aaawhatsup0607.htm
LoisFaith2000
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I just found an article. Its not on 2007 TU24 but it is interesting and maybe someone could e-mail Tom Statler about our asteroid.

ASTRONOMY
Predicting asteroid's path is an imprecise science
Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:09 AM
By Tom Statler

In recent weeks, we’ve seen changing news reports about 2007 WD5, the asteroid which might or might not hit Mars at the end of this month.

In December, the odds of an impact were reported as 1 in 75. Around New Year’s Day, it was 1 in 25. Last week, 1 in 10,000.

Holy moly, don’t these scientists know what they’re talking about? Or are the bookies running the joint?

The asteroid highlights the importance of error estimation in science. “Error” doesn’t mean somebody messed up; it simply means that we can’t get perfect information or make infinitely precise predictions. There is always a margin of uncertainty in any measurement.

A hallmark of good science is being honest about that uncertainty and trying to minimize it. Usually, that means getting more data.

For 2007 WD5, a lot of high-precision tracking data has been collected recently. As the precision has improved and the distance to the target has shortened, the margin of error for the asteroid’s path has tightened.

The probable near miss reported last month with a large uncertainty is now a pretty definite near miss with a small uncertainty.

You can see how the precision has improved by looking at the graphs published by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory at [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

Everyone’s heard of “lies, LOVE lies, and statistics.” But the most common statistical lie — sweeping the margin of uncertainty under the rug — is something we see daily.

Take political polls. A typical poll collects opinions from about 1,000 people, which limits its margin of error to about 3 percent.
Try counting the number of times a week you hear a TV pundit report that Candidate A is leading Candidate B by 2 percentage points based on a poll with a 3-point margin of error.

In politics this is just annoying; in medicine it can be more serious. Next time you see a scientific-sounding claim that some health product improves something by some percentage, ask, “ What’s the uncertainty?”

If they won’t tell you, it’s not statistics; it’s just a LOVE lie.

Tom Statler is the director of the Astrophysical Institute at Ohio University in Athens.
statler@ohio.edu

[link to www.dispatch.com]
LoisFaith2000


Start of New 2008 Incoming
Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger?
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Here is a screenshot of an online real time sky chart.
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com]
It shows the paths of objects that are passing Earth at less than ten lunar distances (LD). Objects in white are outside ten LD at the date and time shown, green inside ten LD, yellow inside Earth's Hill Sphere, orange inside two LD, and red inside one LD of Earth -- all from JPL SSD Horizons data.

Here's a finder chart for 2007 TU24.

The timeframe is 2007-01-28 18:00UT to 2007-01-29 06:00UT
Stars are shown to mag +7.5.
[link to www.webtreatz.com]

Simulator
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
You may have all heard about Asteroid TU24 that is approaching fast. What suprises me is that it is an unknown entity, and was only discovered in October 2007. They have not had a long time to be so sure of its orbit, not that i am saying that they are incorrect, but there have been differing reports of what distance it will be away from Earth.

2007 TU24 - approaching
Approximate diameter: 316 meters (H=20.153)
Closest Earth approach: 1.44 LD at 0830 UTC on 29 Jan.
Inside ten LD of Earth: 24 Jan. until 3 Feb.
Inside Earth's Hill sphere: 27 to 31 Jan.
Closest Moon approach: 2.20 LD at 1537 UTC 29 Jan.
Data based on: JPL SSD orbit solution #15 downloaded 2 Jan.
Optical observation: observed from 14 locations during 82.5097 days
discovered at 0626 UTC on 11 Oct. by the Catalina Sky Survey
last observed at 1840 UTC on 1 Jan. by Schiaparelli Obs.
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com]

I started doing a bit of research and i will post what i have found.

Here is a You-Tube vid on the subject.
[link to youtube.com]

Goldstone Asteroid Schedule say that it is an " Extremely Strong Target"
[link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov]
A NASA observatory.

At 21:33:52UT TU24 is within 3" of star TYC 1754-230-2 (mag 9.92 in pisces). It would be easy to see real time motion when this appulse occurs.

Now some of the Science from NASA.

JPL/HORIZONS (2007 TU24) 2008-Jan-09 10:54:49
Rec #:613964 (+COV) Soln.date: 2008-Jan-02_00:50:06 # obs: 92 (2007-200

FK5/J2000.0 helio. ecliptic osc. elements (AU, DAYS, DEG, period=Julian yrs):

EPOCH= 2454397.5 ! 2007-Oct-24.00 (CT) Residual RMS= .41118
EC= .5290345627342125 QR= .9465669151541721 TP= 2454473.282346976
OM= 127.1754930962541 W= 333.590364051799 IN= 5.801059078188892
A= 2.009843696067193 MA= 333.7862774111327 ADIST= 3.073120476980213
PER= 2.84939 N= .345908033 ANGMOM= .020695015
DAN= .98203 DDN= 2.75066 L= 100.8828646
B= -2.5766911 TP= 2008-Jan-07.7823470

Physical parameters (KM, SEC, rotational period in hours):
GM= n.a. RAD= n.a. ROTPER= n.a.
H= 20.153 G= .150 B-V= n.a.
ALBEDO= n.a. STYP= n.a.

ASTEROID comments:
1: soln ref.= JPL#15, PHA OCC=5
2: source=ORB

Results

*********************************************** *********** *********************
Ephemeris / WWW_USER Wed Jan 9 10:54:50 2008 Pasadena, USA / Horizons
********************************************************** *********************
Target body name: (2007 TU24) {source: JPL#15}
Center body name: Earth (399) {source: DE405}
Center-site name: GEOCENTRIC
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Start time : A.D. 2008-Jan-09 00:00:00.0000 UT
Stop time : A.D. 2008-Feb-08 00:00:00.0000 UT
Step-size : 1440 minutes
********************************************************** *********************
Target pole/equ : No model available
Target radii : (unavailable)
Center geodetic : .000000000,.000000000,.00000000 {E-lon(deg),Lat(deg),Alt(km)}
Center cylindric: .000000000,.000000000,.00000000 {E-lon(deg),Dxy(km),Dz(km)}
Center pole/equ : High-precision EOP model {East-longitude +}
Center radii : 6378.1 x 6378.1 x 6356.8 km {Equator, meridian, pole}
Target primary : Sun {source: DE405}
Interfering body: MOON (Req= 1737.400) km {source: DE405}
Deflecting body : Sun, EARTH {source: DE405}
Deflecting GMs : 1.3271E+11, 3.9860E+05 km^3/s^2
Small perturbers: Ceres, Pallas, Vesta {source: SB405-CPV-2}
Small body GMs : 6.32E+01, 1.43E+01, 1.78E+01 km^3/s^2
Atmos refraction: NO (AIRLESS)
RA format : HMS
Time format : CAL
EOP file : eop.080108.p080331
EOP coverage : DATA-BASED 1962-JAN-20 TO 2008-JAN-08. PREDICTS-> 2008-MAR-30
Units conversion: 1 AU= 149597870.691 km, c= 299792.458 km/s, 1 day= 86400.0 s
Table cut-offs 1: Elevation (-90.0deg=NO ),Airmass (>38.000=NO), Daylight (NO )
Table cut-offs 2: Solar Elongation ( 0.0,180.0=NO )
********************************************************** *********************
Initial FK5/J2000.0 heliocentric ecliptic osculating elements (AU, DAYS, DEG):
EPOCH= 2454397.5 ! 2007-Oct-24.00 (CT) Residual RMS= .41118
EC= .5290345627342125 QR= .9465669151541721 TP= 2454473.282346976
OM= 127.1754930962541 W= 333.590364051799 IN= 5.801059078188892
Asteroid physical parameters (KM, SEC, rotational period in hours):
GM= n.a. RAD= n.a. ROTPER= n.a.
H= 20.153 G= .150 B-V= n.a.
ALBEDO= n.a. STYP= n.a.
********************************************************** *********************************************
Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A._(ICRF/J2000.0)_DEC APmag delta deldot S-O-T /r S-T-O
********************************************************** *********************************************
$$SOE
2008-Jan-09 00:00 00 11 40.74 -22 45 08.2 19.18 .107374530354436 -8.9173423 67.0766 /T 106.9258
2008-Jan-10 00:00 00 12 25.66 -22 37 09.3 19.13 .102212856140578 -8.9545009 66.3468 /T 107.9780
2008-Jan-11 00:00 00 13 10.49 -22 28 36.7 19.08 .097030652057499 -8.9884388 65.6194 /T 109.0271
2008-Jan-12 00:00 00 13 55.29 -22 19 24.5 19.03 .091829772826320 -9.0191729 64.8950 /T 110.0721
2008-Jan-13 00:00 00 14 40.18 -22 09 24.9 18.96 .086612068220285 -9.0467036 64.1744 /T 111.1117
2008-Jan-14 00:00 00 15 25.29 -21 58 28.1 18.89 .081379392515382 -9.0710150 63.4586 /T 112.1446
2008-Jan-15 00:00 00 16 10.82 -21 46 21.5 18.82 .076133613409837 -9.0920765 62.7489 /T 113.1689
2008-Jan-16 00:00 00 16 57.06 -21 32 48.6 18.73 .070876620518654 -9.1098427 62.0473 /T 114.1823




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2008-Jan-17 00:00 00 17 44.40 -21 17 27.3 18.63 .065610334145808 -9.1242522 61.3563 /T 115.1819
2008-Jan-18 00:00 00 18 33.43 -20 59 47.6 18.52 .060336715891789 -9.1352218 60.6794 /T 116.1635
2008-Jan-19 00:00 00 19 24.98 -20 39 07.8 18.39 .055057784612758 -9.1426325 60.0220 /T 117.1215
2008-Jan-20 00:00 00 20 20.28 -20 14 28.2 18.25 .049775645999826 -9.1462937 59.3917 /T 118.0479
2008-Jan-21 00:00 00 21 21.18 -19 44 20.2 18.07 .044492554593191 -9.1458602 58.8003 /T 118.9302
2008-Jan-22 00:00 00 22 30.60 -19 06 27.7 17.86 .039211049423151 -9.1406472 58.2667 /T 119.7494
2008-Jan-23 00:00 00 23 53.27 -18 17 10.1 n.a. .033934254312339 -9.1292123 57.8221 /T 120.4735
2008-Jan-24 00:00 00 25 37.34 -17 10 05.0 n.a. .028666560013865 -9.1083579 57.5231 /T 121.0456
2008-Jan-25 00:00 00 27 58.03 -15 33 09.7 n.a. .023415280286747 -9.0704398 57.4807 /T 121.3539
2008-Jan-26 00:00 00 31 27.22 -13 00 39.7 n.a. .018195208651185 -8.9946986 57.9451 /T 121.1472
2008-Jan-27 00:00 00 37 24.47 -08 26 44.3 15.50 .013044011023080 -8.8111184 59.6024 /T 119.7372
2008-Jan-28 00:00 00 50 18.41 +01 52 15.1 14.11 .008094844020677 -8.1760826 65.0282 /T 114.5422
2008-Jan-29 00:00 01 39 56.79 +35 58 58.0 11.44 .004155194571809 -4.1732055 88.5392 /T 91.2183
2008-Jan-30 00:00 09 59 05.62 +65 15 50.8 10.47 .005050783934319 6.2567534 131.1529 /L 48.6271
2008-Jan-31 00:00 11 36 05.44 +44 52 02.2 11.70 .009497368746752 8.4645796 136.2088 /L 43.4127
2008-Feb-01 00:00 11 53 13.13 +37 17 26.9 12.62 .014532728125780 8.8854871 136.2723 /L 43.1510
2008-Feb-02 00:00 12 00 07.83 +33 35 58.4 13.29 .019710674514148 9.0261275 136.3646 /L 42.8572
2008-Feb-03 00:00 12 03 46.61 +31 26 16.5 13.79 .024944309824332 9.0922225 136.6782 /L 42.3463
2008-Feb-04 00:00 12 05 57.40 +30 01 20.6 14.20 .030207359676843 9.1321502 137.1514 /L 41.6823
2008-Feb-05 00:00 12 07 20.57 +29 01 26.7 14.54 .035490056040165 9.1618451 137.7313 /L 40.9189
2008-Feb-06 00:00 12 08 14.66 +28 16 54.2 14.83 .040788624701944 9.1878291 138.3841 /L 40.0907
2008-Feb-07 00:00 12 08 49.41 +27 42 25.8 15.08 .046101922027670 9.2132092 139.0878 /L 39.2198
2008-Feb-08 00:00 12 09 10.44 +27 14 53.2 15.30 .051430122929095 9.2396336 139.8280 /L 38.3206
$$EOE
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Column meaning:

TIME

Prior to 1962, times are UT1. Dates thereafter are UTC. Any 'b' symbol in
the 1st-column denotes a B.C. date. First-column blank (" ") denotes an A.D.
date. Calendar dates prior to 1582-Oct-15 are in the Julian calendar system.
Later calendar dates are in the Gregorian system.

The uniform Coordinate Time scale is used internally. Conversion between
CT and the selected non-uniform UT output scale has not been determined for
UTC times after the next July or January 1st. The last known leap-second
is used over any future interval.

NOTE: "n.a." in output means quantity "not available" at the print-time.

R.A._(ICRF/J2000.0)_DEC =
J2000.0 astrometric right ascension and declination of target center.
Corrected for light-time. Units: HMS (HH MM SS.ff) and DMS (DD MM SS.f)

APmag =
Asteroid's approximate apparent visual magnitude by following definition:
APmag = H + 5*log10(delta) + 5*log10® - 2.5*log10((1-G)*phi1 + G*phi2).
In principle, accurate to ~ +/- 0.1 magnitude. For solar phase angles > 90 deg,
the error could exceed 1 magnitude. No values are output for phase angles
greater than 120 degrees, since the extrapolation error could be large and
unknown. Units: NONE

delta deldot =
Range ("delta") and range-rate ("delta-dot") of target center with respect
to the observer at the instant light seen by the observer at print-time would
have left the target center (print-time minus down-leg light-time); the
distance traveled by a light ray emanating from the center of the target and
recorded by the observer at print-time. "deldot" is a projection of the
velocity vector along this ray, the light-time-corrected line-of-sight from the
coordinate center, and indicates relative motion. A positive "deldot" means the
target center is moving away from the observer (coordinate center). A negative
"deldot" means the target center is moving toward the observer.
Units: AU and KM/S

S-O-T /r =
Sun-Observer-Target angle; target's apparent solar elongation seen from
observer location at print-time. If negative, the target center is behind
the Sun. Angular units: DEGREES.

The '/r' column is a Sun-relative code, output for observing sites
with defined rotation models only.

/T indicates target trails Sun (evening sky)
/L indicates target leads Sun (morning sky)

NOTE: The S-O-T solar elongation angle is the total separation in any
direction. It does not indicate the angle of Sun leading or trailing.

S-T-O =
Sun-Target-Observer angle; target's apparent PHASE ANGLE as seen at
observer's location at print time. Units: DEGREES


Computations by ...
Solar System Dynamics Group, Horizons On-Line Ephemeris System
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Information: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Connect : telnet://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov:6775 (via browser)
telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775 (via command-line)
Author : Jon.Giorgini@jpl.nasa.gov
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

Does this mean that the Sun, Moon and Earth are in potential Danger of Impact?
Target primary : Sun {source: DE405}
Interfering body: MOON (Req= 1737.400) km {source: DE405}
Deflecting body : Sun, EARTH

There is a lot of silence once again about this Unknown Asteroid. We know nothing about it. Its Orbit remains unsure as the calculations of distance have differed.
Now we also have NASA admitting that Their Comet and Asteroid Blasting Ship, Deep Impact is currently doing " Laps around the Sun"

Deep Impact spacecraft flies by Earth

NASA's comet-busting spacecraft is on its way to rendezvous with another comet in an extended mission that will also hunt for Earth-sized planets around a cluster of stars.

The Deep Impact probe zipped past Earth on Monday, the first of three flybys designed to use the planet's gravity to hurtle the spacecraft toward comet Hartley 2 for a 2010 meeting.

Last week, engineers calibrated the instruments aboard the spacecraft using the moon as a target in advance of the flyby, which occurred as planned, said William Blume of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

At closest approach the spacecraft was 10,000 miles (16,000km) above Australia.

"We're taking laps around the sun until the comet comes," he said.
[link to goondiwindi.yourguide.com.au]

Deep Impact could be hanging around the Sun for the benefit of this nearing Asteroid. Quite convenient is it not?
There has been images of many things around our Sun lately, and with what happened to Comet Holmes still fresh in our minds, there certain is a lot going on in our System at the moment.
There has been rumours for years about an incoming object that could prove devastating to Earth, Could TU24 be it?
Im not sure, But the events lately in our Solar System have made me take nothing for granted.
Links
[link to www.drsky.com]
[link to goondiwindi.yourguide.com.au]
[link to uspolitics.tribe.net]
[link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to www.tu24.org]
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com]



Sun Shining at 1:00 Am?

http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1tj3.jpg
The sun is rising at one in the morning?
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As I was taking a gander at some of the current MODOT camera images, I came across something which I found a wee bit peculiar. At first, I thought the camera must have stopped taking new pictures and the final image taken was just being looped and stamped with the current time. As I watched for the image to refresh to confirm this belief, I discovered that there are still changes in the pictures. It wasn't a simple loop, the images are in-fact updating. What I appeared to be seeing was, at one am, the sun was rising. Impossible right? Well, I thought maybe it's showing images from several hours ago for some reason, but the problem there is there's hardly any traffic on the Interstate in the picture - had it been six o'clock or so, there would be considerable traffic. I'm puzzled.

[link to img525.imageshack.us]
[link to img105.imageshack.us]
[link to img525.imageshack.us]

Note that the object seems to get slightly bigger as time goes on.

As you can see the 'sun' object doesn't even move during the elapsed period. I live in the area, so I took the liberty to walk outside in hopes of determining what is creating that light, but I see nothing. All seems normal, aside from the sky looking so orange (though it's been that color for quite some time now). Any of you have any ideas what that is?
De Oppresso Liber
AIM:kits56fa2

Link to GLP

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message488410/pg1

LoisFaith2000
Re: PART 9 - INCOMING, WHAT IS IT?? on: 01/17/08 at 21:48:05
The Tunguska asteroid/meteor/comet fragment was not a direct earth hit but nonetheless cause massive devastation. Exploded 5-10 miles above ground-

Tunguska event

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Trees felled by the Tunguska blast.


Photograph from Kulik's 1927 expeditionThe Tunguska Event, sometimes called the Tunguska explosion, was a massive explosion that occurred near the Podkamennaya (Lower Stony) Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai of Russia, at 7:40 a.m. on June 30, 1908 Julian (July 13 on Gregorian calendar).


The explosion was most likely caused by the air burst of a large meteoroid or comet fragment at an altitude of 5–10 kilometers (3–6 miles) above Earth's surface.

Different studies yielded varying estimates for the meteor's size, including 30 meters, 50 metres, 60 metres, 90 to 190 metres, and up to 1200 metres in diameter.

Although the meteor or comet is considered to have burst prior to hitting the surface, this event is still referred to as an impact event. Estimates on the energy of the blast include 3–5 megatons and as high as 30 megatons of TNT.

10–15 megatons has been considered the most likely to be accurate[8] — about 1,000 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan.


The explosion felled an estimated 80 million trees over 2,150 square kilometers (830 square miles). It is estimated to have measured 5.0 on the Richter scale.

The Tunguska event is the largest impact event in recent history. An explosion of this magnitude had the potential to devastate large metropolitan areas had it occurred over a large city."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

June 30, 1908 Julian (July 13 on Gregorian calendar).

Re: Let us see if this happens!!!! on: 01/17/08 at 21:43:49
Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008
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Link:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message490094/pg1


Re: Predicting asteroid's path - an imprecise scie on: 01/17/08 at 21:34:02
Minimum Orbital Intersection Distance
The minimum orbital intersection distance (MOID) is the minimum distance between the osculating orbits of two objects. It indicates the closest possible approach of the two objects except where excluded by protective resonance.

As such, the MOID can act as an early warning indicator for collision between an asteroid and a planet. A large MOID between and asteroid and the Earth indicates the asteroid will not collide with Earth in the near term. Asteroids with a small MOID to Earth should be carefully followed because they can become Earth colliders.

Because of long-range planetary gravitational perturbations and, particularly, close planetary approaches, asteroid orbits change with time. Consequently, MOID also changes. As a rule of thumb, MOID can change by up to 0.02 AU per century, except for approaches within 1 AU of massive Jupiter, where the change can be large. Thus an asteroid that has a small MOID with any planet should be monitored.

Each day, we calculate the MOIDs between the inner solar system planets and near-Earth asteroids (NEAs). We limit the table of MOID values presented here to 0.05 AU or less for terrestrial planets and 1 AU or less for Jupiter.


Re: Is This To Be Taken Seriously or Not? on: 01/17/08 at 21:31:10
SYesterday, the nearest point of pass was 1.2 LD. Now it's .8 LD. - Lec

Re: ASTEROID TU24 EARTH MOID NOW @ 0.8 LD Quote

New telemetry has it @ Earth Moid .00124988 AU or 116,183 miles away on the 29th. Half way to the moon. At what point do we run?

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

Link at GLP

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message490045/pg1
LoisFaith2000
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/gammadim/wpaa...prophecies.html

Yes! They are coming!
Dreams/Visions of Comets/Asteroids from Christians
LoisFaith2000
Re: TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008
« on: January 20th, 2008, 12:54pm »

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I don't know if this means anything.

On Jan 29th, TU24 will be at it's closest approach to earth (about 600,000 km). On Jan. 29th, president Bush gives his 'State of the Union' address on television.

I think some are saying this asteroid has a 50/50 chance of hitting earth.

Let's see if this is significant.
LoisFaith2000
Incoming meteors & comets info Re: PART 9 - INCOMING, WHAT IS IT?? on: 01/20/08
While the plasma discharge between Mars and the asteroid will certainly be a rare celestial event, what makes it even more intriguing is that rumors have begun circulating the internet that over the next few weeks, a second sun will mysteriously appear in the sky. The likelihood that a plasma discharge between the asteroid and Mars will light Mars up spectacularly raises the possibility that it could be the second sun alluded to in such predictions. In fact, if the plasma cosmology model is correct, it can be predicted that Mars will light up as a (red) second sun on or around January 30, 2008.


On October 24, 2007 Comet 17P/Holmes lit up in a spectacular way. The coma of the relatively small comet with a core of several kilometers, grow in size to be larger than the sun (diagram on left shows Holmes and the sun compared with Saturn). Its spectacular increase thrilled sky watchers for over a month as it formed a faint blue sun in the night sky. Comet Holmes' expansion was a mystery, according to most astronomers. In the plasma cosmology model, Comet Holmes expansion was due to a plasma discharge as it entered a region of space where the charges accumulated by the comet in its orbit discharged. The plasma discharge appeared to happen when the Comet passed through the magnetosphere of Mars causing its spectacular expansion. Such an event is likely to repeat itself as the asteroid experiences a close rendezvous with Mars. The smaller size of the asteroid, when compared to Comet Holmes, makes it an unlikely candidate for the coma expansion experienced by Comet Holmes. However, that is not so for Mars which has sufficient mass to undergo a spectacular plasma discharge and coma expansion that replicates what occurred with Comet Holmes. Consequently, it is predicted that Mars will undergo a spectacular expansion on or soon after the January 30 rendezvous. So this coming event may qualify as the mysterious second sun prediction.

Mars and the Red Kachina
A final point worth discussing about the possible spectacular expansion of Mars in the night sky is what significance to attach to the formation of a second sun that has a red hue to it. This raises the intriguing question of whether the January 30 asteroid rendezvous with Mars could signify the coming of the fabled Red Kachina in Hopi Indian prophesy. This follows earlier speculation that Comet Holmes formed the Blue Kachina, and its appearance in 2007 was predicted by crop circles created in 2005.

Hopi Prophesy states:

The return of the Blue Star Kachina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life. Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier . The Red Kachina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.

The Red Kachina signifies the time of purification when humanity faces a series of fundamental choices in its evolution. Successful choices will lead to a harmonious transition from the 4th world (which refers to current Western civilization) to the fifth world which represents a new world based on truth, justice, peace and harmony. The prediction of Comet Holmes/Blue Kachina by crop circles discovered in 2005 raises the intriguing questions of who made them, and is there any relationship with Mars possibly lighting up on January 30, 2008? According, to the Hopi, the transition from the fourth to fifth world will herald the return of the "brothers from the Stars." Are extraterrestrials responsible for making the crop circles, and therefore drawing humanity's attention to celestial events that portend widespread planetary changes?

In conclusion, on January 30, 2008, humanity is likely to witness a remarkable celestial event. The possible lighting up of the red planet, Mars, due to a plasma discharge caused by asteroid 2007 WD5 may signify nothing more than a very rare celestial event. At the very least this will give powerful evidentiary support for the Plasma Cosmology model that currently is largely dismissed by the mainstream astronomical community. There may, however, be more to Mars briefly becoming a red sun than simply demonstrating the validity of plasma discharge predictions concerning celestial bodies. The formation of a red sun may well signify the Red Kachina as foretold in Hopi prophesy. Such prophesy alerts us to celestial events that herald a time of rapid planetary transition. We can look forward to whatever happens on January 30 as the start of a fascinating journey for humanity as it seriously ponders the confluence of a rare celestial event, Native American prophecies, crop circles and exopolitics.

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
Kona, Hawaii
1/13/08
www.Exopolitics.Org
LoisFaith2000
B.D. 6324
August 3, 1955

APPROACH OF A STAR

Open your hearts wide, make yourselves receptive for My love-beam from above, and listen to what I want to tell you: A sure sign of the imminent end is the becoming visible of a star which is moving in the direction of the earth, and yet takes a peculiar path - often withdrawing from your view and then suddenly re-appearing…. because it is accompanied by impenetrable nebulae, which now and then dissolve, only to condense anew.

You men will be experiencing something previously unknown, as the effects of this star upon your earth are such that dread shall befall you, because you sense that the earth could become a victim of this unknown star, which is calling forth perceptible disturbances on earth, which however are inexplicable to you.

There are men who cannot be shaken by anything that befalls them - who now lose their tranquillity, as they feel that they, as well as the rest of the earth - is delivered up to natural powers, which they fear because they are unable to counter them. And on account of these people, the powers of heaven are moving. It is particularly these people I want to address, and secure their entrusting themselves to a God and Creator, as soon as they see themselves completely powerless. Whatever is occasioned by human will - be it ever so terrible in its effect - does not shake such people. But they become small and weak when seeing themselves delivered up to natural forces. And then it is possible that they take refuge with Him Who is Lord over all Creation - then it is possible that in their greatest need they find their way to Me.

And this nature-spectacle shall arouse immense agitation among mankind, and the fear will not be unjustified, because regardless of the strange phenomena accompanying the star, it moves steadily nearer the earth, and a collision - according to the calculations of those discovering and trekking its career - appears inevitable.

But this also I have predicted a long time since, that I will send you an enemy from the air - that a natural catastrophe of the greatest magnitude lies ahead of you - which precedes the ultimate end, i.e. the complete re-shaping of the earth's surface - costing countless victims. I draw your attention to it time after time, and My Word is Truth, and shall be fulfilled. But you are being referred to it beforehand so that you men may know that nothing can take place without My Will, and that nothing that occurs is without sense and purpose - and that My thoughts include those who are entirely without faith, but whom, nevertheless, I do not want to lose to My adversary.

And that is why you people ought to know what is ahead of you, so that you might attain to faith more readily, when in great need you think of Him who is Lord over Heaven and earth - over all stars and worlds - and to Whose will everything is subject. You need to attain to this knowledge in advance, which will then help you with your faith, if you are of goodwill. A calamity is coming over you, but for each individual it can also be a blessing, if thereby he gains eternal life for his soul, even where temporal death is allotted him - if only he calls to Me in his need.

AMEN
LoisFaith2000
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Luke 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Luke 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
LoisFaith2000

History Channel (1/22-23) Tunguska event / Prophecies of Israel

On tonight....

Siberian Apocalypse:

8:00 p.m. EST January 22, 2008
1200 a.m. (Midnight) EST January 23, 2008

http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=det...pisodeId=203540

At 7:15AM on June 30, 1908, a giant fireball, as bright the Sun, explodes in the Siberian sky with a force a thousand times greater than the Hiroshima bomb. It decimates 1,000 square miles of forest--over half the size of Rhode Island, and was the biggest cosmic disaster in the history of civilization. What caused the apocalyptic fire in the sky? Over a hundred theories surround what is called the Tunguska event, varying from asteroids and comets to black holes and alien spaceships. Most scientists agree the Tunguska event will happen again, and next time, the human toll could be unimaginable. Now, NASA and other organizations race against time to stop the next planet killer before it ignites Armageddon.

Decoding The Past: Prophecies of Israel.

11:00 p.m. EST January 22, 2008
3:00 a.m. EST January 23, 2008

http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=det...pisodeId=175511

The Tanakh of the Jews is an acronym that identifies the Hebrew Bible, equivalent to the Old Testament to Christians. Within the 24 books of the Tanakh (or Mikra as it was called during the period of its recording) are astounding predictions of the future. Many of the prophets who authored or appeared in the scriptures prophesied about the fate of the Jewish people and the State of Israel. We'll examine the prophecies and chronicle the birth, death, recent resurrection, and possible future of Israel. Supported by archival footage and dramatic recreations, on-camera experts representing the three major religions, and secular perspectives, we explore the most significant of these ancient prophecies. Are the prophecies real? Are they unfolding before our eyes? Who believes, who doesn't, and why?

LoisFaith2000
Sandwiched inbetween stocks/meltdown, Russians, Israel; here is some solar dynamics.....

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2007%20TU24;orb=1
LoisFaith2000
Will the comet Holmes flare up again on the 70th anniv. of a fulfilled Fatima event?
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Will the comet Holmes again flare up tomorrow? It could.

It is visible already 14th week, today it's 3 months, and now is swallowing the star Algol, "demonic star". Since it first flared up on the feast of the archangel Raphael, it could do it for the second time on a feast day somehow related to it.
Tomorrow there is a feast day of the Conversion of st. Paul, the Apostle (in the Catholic liturgy a feast day begins at sunset of a preceding day, i.e. today in the evening). This event is described in Acts 9, where it reads:
"As he [Saul/Paul] went on his journey, it came to pass that he drew nigh to Damascus. And suddenly a light from heaven shined round about him. And falling on the ground, he heard a voice saying to him: Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? ... when his eyes were opened, he saw nothing. ...He was there [in Damascus] three days without sight."

The archangel Raphael is an angel of light, and a light is included in the tomorrow's feast day.

Moreover, tomorrow there is a 70th anniversary of an event relating to a light. This event fulfilled a 1917 prophecy of Our Lady of Fatima:
"This war is going to end, but if people do not cease offending God, not much time will elapse and during the Pontificate of Pius XI another and more terrible war will begin. When you see a night illuminated by an unknown light, know this is the great sign from God that the chastisement of the world for its many transgressions is at hand through war, famine, persecution of the Church and of the Holy Father."

And really, on the night of January 25, 1938, at 6:30 pm CET a strange and unknown light foretelling the beginning of World War II filled the sky of Europe as far north as Finland and as far south as the Sahara Desert. It was seen as far west as New York and as Far East as Moscow. It last for 3 hours. The sky looked as if it were on fire even with the noise of "burning grass or brush". There has been no phenomenon like it before or since. The scientists in their desperation to have an explanation for this strange light called it an "Aurora Borealis".

And the French seer Marie Julie Jahenny from the Bretaigne (died in 1941) was told by Jesus right after that event: "When the light comes again, the good ones should get ready, then the time is there."

Furthemore, Pope Pius IX, who was often inspired by the two secrets of La Salette, made an astonishing remark in his public speeches: In 1871, on the 25th anniversary of his election, he said to a French deputation presided over by Mgr Forcade of Nevers: "There will be a great wonder that will astonish the whole world. This wonder, however, has to be preceded by the triumph of the Revolution. The Church will have much to suffer: her ministers and head first and foremost will be dishonoured, persecuted and martyred."

I believe that wonder will be caused by the comet Holmes. The revolution triumphs due to the Great Apostasy of Vatican II Church. Holmes has appeared in October 24th, a traditional feast day of the archangel Raphael, who is in angelology associated with the element Air and the colors
yellow or gold and emerald green, seen in Holmes. Raphael is considered to be an angel-healer and angel-guide. Maybe Holmes represents a healer of our world and a will guide us to a new era.

So, if the comet had to flare up again it could be the Pope Pius IX's wonder astonishing the world, and a warning like the 1938 event, but of bigger proportions, as it will be followed by a world's greatest change. It would be related to Medusa and Algol, which would be shaded, indicating the end of this evil world system, that will eventualy end by the three days of darkness. It would indicate a near conversion or recovery of the world (as was St. Paul). When is a question. Perhaps it will be connected to the asteroid TU24.
LoisFaith2000
By Ciproquien

Do you really think there is no conspiracy over a rock the size of the Sears Tower that is carrying magnetic fields with it, it can cause electrical problems. It is expected to affect Mars worse than us, but it can affect Part of the USA, there are a ton of conspiracies on this, NASA is hiding this in fear of mass chaos and panic. More to talk about.


Due Date- April 2008 (According to a GLP Poster) on: 01/24/08 at 20:21:53


NASA RUMOR: Asteroid to Impact Earth in 10 months.
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I was told that this info is making the rounds throughout the middle and upper elvels at NASA. The impact ISN'T an extinction level event, let me clarify this. However, it will be a disaster of unprecendented levels for modern man.

I know no one will believe this right now. BUT, in the coming months if you here more rumors about an asteroid, listen closely cause it's real.

By the time it's obvious to the World, it will be improtant to have things to barter with to get to a safe zone. Unfortunately, I don't know where those are yet, and probably will find out with you guys.

God bless

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message403489/pg1

Due date for this one - April 2008 (Spring)

Is this a huge sign for the spring rapture?

LoisFaith2000
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...578979020080125

China, Russia to offer treaty to ban arms in space

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GENEVA (Reuters) - China and Russia will submit a joint proposal next month for an international treaty to ban the deployment of weapons in outer space, a senior Russian arms negotiator said on Friday.

Valery Loshchinin, Russia's ambassador to the United Nations-sponsored Conference on Disarmament, said the draft treaty would be presented to the 65-member forum on February 12.
LoisFaith2000
Russia Warns On Catastrophic Earth Bound Asteroid
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January 26, 2008

Russia Warns On Catastrophic Earth Bound Asteroid

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Russian Dr. Scientist Khabibullo Abdusamatov, Director of the space research lab at the Pulkovo Observatory in St. Petersburg, and who has previously warned about a coming Ice Age, today issued a report to the Kremlin warning of the potential affects to our Earth from an asteroid due to come dangerously close to our World in the next few days.

According to this report, Asteroid 2007 TU24, which has been measured at being 600 meters (2,000 feet) large, is due to pass within 540,000 kilometers (334,000 miles) of Earth on January 29th, and which is being described by NASA Scientist Don Yeomans as being "... the closest approach by a known asteroid of this size or larger until 2027”.

Though some reports emerging from the West are suggesting that NASA is ‘greatly concerned’ about Asteroid 2007 TU24 striking our Earth, Dr. Abdusamatov’s report states that the greatest danger from this space object is the catastrophic effect it is having on our electromagnetic field and destabilizing our already in chaos Global weather patterns.

Dr. Abdusamatov bases his warnings on what he states is the current state of instability existing in our Solar System due to our Sun entering into a new, and potentially destructive, new Solar Maximum cycle and which has caused the unprecedented plasma explosion of Comet Holmes and the Planet Jupiter to explode with massive storms.

Most interesting, according to this report, is that Dr. Abdusamatov has documented the effects Asteroid 2007 TU24 is currently having on our Global Weather, and electromagnetic systems, by its ‘moving’ the magnetic axis of our Earth towards Canada from the North Pole, and which has caused, in the past week alone, record setting cold temperatures in Siberia, India, North America, and unprecedented snows in China, which have paralyzed vast portions of that Asian nation.

This is so, Dr. Abdusamatov explains in his report, because of Asteroid 2007 TU24 ‘expanding’ its already growing plasma sheath, like Comet Homes, due to ‘unstable’ solar plasma emissions from the Sun and which are increasing their ‘effects’ upon our Earth’s protective ‘magnetosheath’, and in ways, he says, currently not known.

It is, also, interesting to note that Western scientists are moving their ideas about comets and asteroids more towards the beliefs of their Eastern counterparts, and who have long advocated that our Solar System can only be explained in terms of an ‘Electric Universe’, rather than one long supported by the West that states comets are nothing but ‘balls of ice’, and as we can read as reported by the Reuters News Service:

"Samples of rock dust retrieved from a comet called Wild 2 are forcing scientists to alter they way they think about these intriguing objects that streak through our solar system.

A chemical analysis of the samples brought back to Earth by NASA's Stardust spacecraft showed that the comet is much more like an asteroid than scientists had expected.

Comets are celestial bodies made of rock, dust and ice with characteristic tails of gas and dust streams that are formed in the solar system's distant, frigid reaches. A long-standing notion had been they were sort of a frozen time capsule of material from when the solar system formed 4-1/2 billion years ago, including stardust from other stars. But this is not the case with Wild 2, scientists found.

A lot of the material detected in Wild 2's cometary dust was formed very close to the sun in the early solar system and was somehow later transported to the outer solar system, the scientists said.

The rock dust closely resembles material from bodies called chondritic meteorites from asteroids in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, they reported in the journal Science. Asteroids are fragments of ancient space rubble, made of rock and metal, that commonly orbit the sun in that belt. "Overall, this comet, Wild 2, is looking a lot more asteroid-like than we had expected," Hope Ishii of the U.S. government's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, one of the scientists, said in a telephone interview on Friday."

Of the greatest concern, however, relating to Dr. Abdusamatov’s report, are his warnings that our Earth has yet to feel the ‘full wrath’ of Asteroid 2007 TU24’s interaction with our Earth, and which, he states, will usher in ‘many months’ of catastrophic weather changes that will encircle our entire Globe in the coming months."

[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]

GLP Link
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message494810/pg1
LoisFaith2000
According to this report, Asteroid 2007 TU24, which has been measured at being 600 meters (2,000 feet) large, is due to pass within 540,000 kilometers (334,000 miles) of Earth on January 29th, and which is being described by NASA Scientist Don Yeomans as being "... the closest approach by a known asteroid of this size or larger until 2027?
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Then...something catastrophic event (collision..or earth magnetic field problem..) can happen...?

Due date is JAN 29 ...
So close...

praising JESUS
LoisFaith2000
IPB Image




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A "WARNING OF EVIL" in the heavens (picture)!!!

If I knew "HOW" to post this picture, I would. This
photo will NOT be on line next week because they change them from week
to week but THIS week seems VERY significant from MANY, MANY WAYS!

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ALL:

The picture of the heavens on Feb. 1st on Sky and Telescope's "This Week's
Sky at a Glance" may tell MORE than a "thousand words" could!!!!!!!

What we have is the crescent moon alongside the star, Antares. Antares is
the "HEART" of the evil scorpion (Scorpio) which sits "at the feet" of Virgo
in the heavens ready to DEVOUR HER CHILD the moment he is born. This
story is presented in the first few verses of Revelation 12.

To me, this symbol of Islam - the crescent moon (while "bent as a bow") -
being near the "HEART" of the evil scorpion and TAKING AIM shows just
how our (the US') leaders have chosen to take sides with the "HEART" of
Islam!!! Instead of standing WITH the God of Israel, we are actually "HELPING"
this extremely evil religion AIM at "God's chosen - Israel"!!!!!! NOTE that the
"AIM" is at the conjunction of the TWO BRIGHTEST PLANETS -

...Venus, which represents "Jesus" and
...Jupiter, the "KING" planet.

This is occurring EXACTLY "5" (which means "GRACE") years from the
Shuttle Columbia "coming apart" over "Palestine", TX. I heard these VERY
words on CNN that morning 5 years ago:

"The shuttle has come apart over "Palestine!".

The crescent moon is "bent like a bow" as if shooting towards these 2 planets!!!
Go to the URL below and the picture ABOVE the statement:

"Bent like a bow, the crescent Moon points to Venus and Jupiter in conjunction
on the morning of Friday, February 1st.Sky & Telescope diagram":

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From:
This Week's Sky at a Glance
by Alan M. MacRobert
Some daily events in the changing sky for January 25 – February 2.

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/ataglance/




Thursday, January 31

Venus and Jupiter, the two brightest planets, are in close conjunction tomorrow
morning in early dawn, as shown here. The arc of the waning crescent Moon, far
to their upper right, points the way; if it were a bow it would be shooting an arrow
at them. Also: can you see Antares sparkling near the Moon?

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From:
The Crescent Moon

http://islam.about.com/od/history/a/crescent_moon.htm

Is it a symbol of Islam?

The crescent moon and star is an internationally-recognized symbol of
the faith of Islam.

From:
Crescent Moon: Flags of the Muslim World

http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa060401b.htm

There are several Muslim countries that currently feature the crescent
moon and star symbol on their national flag.

JUST A REMINDER:

The Super Bowl is at the end of NEXT WEEK!!! PERHAPS this all adds
up to a SIGN OF VERY NEAR AND IMPENDING DANGER!!!!!!!!

AND....

In my Spring, 1998 dream when we saw (and heard) something about
a GREAT DISASTER and we were throwing a "football".

ALSO.........

Vickie (in a dream on 12/15/07) saw a terrorist attack at a "football" stadium:

Fwd.: Dream warning of Stadium

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Watchmen-Pro...ssembly/message /20767

Is is POSSIBLE for things to get MORE CLEAR that "something" is up!!!?

GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calvin










Re: A "WARNING OF EVIL" in the heavens (picture)!!
« Reply #1 on: January 26th, 2008, 6:11am »

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Calvin,
Some sites let you link to their images,
some don't so your mileage will vary,
and when they take the page down, you may loose it.
Anyway,
right click on the image you want to link to,
choose "save image location".
Then:
<img scr = "(here paste what you just copied)">
and it should appear.

Let me try:
<img src = "http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/WebVic08_Feb1.jpg"& gt;




Re: A "WARNING OF EVIL" in the heavens (picture)!!
« Reply #2 on: January 26th, 2008, 6:12am »

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Calvin,
Some sites let you link to their images,
some don't so your mileage will vary,
and when they take the page down, you may loose it.
Anyway,
right click on the image you want to link to,
choose "save image location".
Then:
<img scr = "(here paste what you just copied)">
and it should appear.

Let me try:
[img src = "http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/WebVic08_Feb1.jpg"< /a>]




Re: A "WARNING OF EVIL" in the heavens (picture)!!
« Reply #3 on: January 26th, 2008, 6:14am »

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Calvin,
Some sites let you link to their images,
some don't so your mileage will vary,
and when they take the page down, you may loose it.
Anyway,
right click on the image you want to link to,
choose "save image location".
Then:
<img scr = "(here paste what you just copied)">
and it should appear.

Let me try:
<img src = "http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/WebVic08_Feb1.jpg"/ >

Re: A "WARNING OF EVIL" in the heavens (picture)!!
« Reply #4 on: January 26th, 2008, 6:15am »

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Calvin,
Some sites let you link to their images,
some don't so your mileage will vary,
and when they take the page down, you may loose it.
Anyway,
right click on the image you want to link to,
choose "save image location".
Then:
<img scr = "(here paste what you just copied)">
and it should appear.

Let me try:
http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/We...1.jpg"< /a>










Re: A "WARNING OF EVIL" in the heavens (picture)!!
« Reply #5 on: January 26th, 2008, 6:20am »

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HELP!
This is the image,
I thought I could link to it .
How do you link and get image to appear?
Thanks

http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/WebVic08_Feb1.jpg
LoisFaith2000
B.D. 6405
November 18, 1955

LAST SIGN BEFORE THE END

You shall witness a series of events at short intervals which shall greatly disturb you because unable to explain them, and hence come to fear powers against which you find no protection. Also, you shall not find the correct explanation, because it is My Will that you should reckon with every eventuality and adopt a corresponding stand. I want everyone's soul to benefit from it; concern shall be deepest where faith is lacking altogether, whereas believers shall abide in Me and feel themselves in My care. The above nevertheless are phenomena, which shall lead to much public discussion because cosmically triggered, so that all individuals will ponder them and share opinions with fellow man. Worldly interests shall recede from time to time, but as soon as the appearances pass, worldly men take to heightened craving for worldly joys and only a minority retain impressions which can lead to contemplation and possible change of attitude, until repetition of the events, with renewed fears.

Because scientific evidence leads to fear of a threat to the planet earth, due to intriguing changes not observed in the stellar system previously and posing a serious threat to the earth. And human estimates of potential effects shall vary greatly. Men shall recklessly skim over this and consummate their lives with abandon; utterly vain precautions shall be taken, whilst others shall introspect and approach their God and Creator in serious thought. And I give them all free will, yet try unceasingly to point their thought towards man's actual life purpose, so that they may come to abide in My peace and them be guided for the good of their soul.

What therefore is to take place? The Zodiac will change. Stars shall be guided unto new tracks, with new positions in relation to earth; and stars not observed before shall come into view, one of which will appear as a direct threat to the earth, because potentially crossing the earth's orbit. None shall want to believe such a possibility, and that natural laws can change; yet you men stand before the end. You are yourselves preparing something that will have even greater repercussions, because what you are undertaking threatens the entire earth.

What takes place through My Will is only a preview of the end nevertheless, it is a serious warning, and I only give you evidence therewith of a higher power, so that you can all turn to same and take the opportunity to divert danger from yourselves, if you, i.e. your soul, draws the desired benefit there from. What takes place at a later stage however affects the entire earth with everything living on it.

And hence I manifest Myself beforehand in an unusual way, without however forcing you to recognise me as the initiator therewith: it is something mighty but does not affect all of the earth…. because I know all natural laws and their effects, and also how to divert any happening or weaken its effect. But whatever I bring about serves only for your salvation: it is to drive you to Me, it is to enable you men to recognise a God with Whom you can take refuge because He is your Father.

It is the last sign before the end. It is the last attempt of My Love and Mercy to save what can still be saved.

AMEN
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Re: Asteroid 2007 TU24 Update

Dear Stephen,

I hope I may inject something useful into the discussion at this
point. After trying to digest the mostly, but not complete, nonsense
from the godlikeproductions boards, I decided to research this issue
more deeply. I probably have not mentioned before that I have a
degree in aerospace engineering with a specialization in orbital
mechanics. Not that I consider this important, but it does give me a
framework in which to understand discussions about asteroids and
impacts. In college I worked on the software that does advanced
high-precision orbit prediction for the GPS satellite constellation.

First, the good news: I downloaded the latest available data from the
various sources (JPL, Harvard, NeoDys, etc.) and used the excellent
free open-source WinORSA program (available from sourceforge.net for
anyone who would like to reproduce these results) to integrate the
orbit of this object, 2007 TU24. What I also did is a parameter study
of the orbit prediction UNCERTAINTY to see the range of variation. To
make a long story short, the three sigma (99.7% confidence) envelope
still puts this asteroid NOWHERE NEAR earth. By far the greatest
variation is in the along track direction, i.e. how far the object is
along in its orbital path. The side-to-side variation in the path is
something like 5-10% as much as the along-track variation. The
predicted orbit and the earth's orbit do not intersect; it would take
considerable sideways variation to even come close to a grazing hit,
far beyond the realm of probability. Also, the timing is wrong; if
the prophecies regarding an approximately 10 PM impact off the eastern
coast of the US are close with regard to time-of-day, this object
can't possibly be it. The approach angle is such that these locations
at these times are below the horizon from the angle of approach of
2007 TU24, but not by very much.

Second, the bad news: as you mentioned previously Steve, when it does
happen it will look very much like this. The distance is close. The
approach angle is not wrong by very much. Even a small body that NASA
/government agencies may know about in advance and not be too
concerned about could, if it is approaching at a very low angle, cause
an airburst as it explodes in the atmosphere. Based on my research of
impact-related tsunamis, I don't think that this has been studied at
all. It's possible that the tsunami caused by the airburst
overpressure on a large area of water could somehow be worse than the
case of an impact. I don't think anyone in the scientific community
knows this, or at least it hasn't been published on the internet.
This could lead to an object of initially little concern causing worse
damage than expected. Another chilling possibility, even right now
today, is for an unseen and unknown additional small asteroid to
collide with 2007 TU24 (or a similar asteroid in the future) and first
of all fragment it into several large chunks, and second put those
chunks on a collision course even when the parent body wasn't. 2007
TU24 is close enough and large enough, that were this to happen in the
next several days the possibility is there for the fragments to
impact. It would, of course, take an act of God. If any hypothetical
fragments of 2007 TU24 got diverted on a course toward Earth at this
point (several days before close approach) they might very well arrive
off the east coast of the US at about 10 PM Eastern time.

To summarize: unless something happens to change the situation, I can
say with a high confidence that this isn't it. However, if the Lord
decides to alter the situation by his hand this could very well be it.
In either case, his servants need to be awake and alert, because we
know that these prophecies WILL be fulfilled in His time. If this is
it He has been very gracious in allowing us to see it coming and
finalize our preparations.

Steve, I am addressing this to you personally, since as a resident of
Florida this situation is obviously of great concern to you. I will
leave it up to your judgment whether it is appropriate for the group
as a whole.

In His Service,

Stewart

LoisFaith2000
IPB Image
IPB Image

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325345,00.html
RelatedStories
Japanese Astronaut to Launch Paper Airplane in Space NASA Photo Shows Humanoid Figure on Mars Strange Clouds Spotted in Martian Atmosphere Bummer: Asteroid Will Almost Certainly Miss Mars Huge Planets May Have Collided in Far-Off Star System Rogue Black Holes May Be Wandering Through Galaxy Jupiter and Venus converge end of month, moon comes into the picture on the 1st of Feb. Visible early a.m. Nice show!
Plus the flyby of asteroid TU24 on the 29th of Jan! Busy week up there! I'll have to pick up a telescope!
Venus Jupiter Moon converge (space.com)
LoisFaith2000
Note: first & last links work....others you have to do manually!

Quote:

Question - when was TU24 discovered? Do they know for sure that there isn't an asteroid that they haven't found that could come that close before 2027?

After all, it's a big universe out there. And, you know how people in sci-fi movies never look up or down, but always act as if space is on a flat plane when fighting battles. :-)

I dont think they know for sure what is coming towards us. THis asteroid passing us (hopefully) on the 29th is only a small example how oblivious we are to space rocks headed our way.
I thank God he is in control. And as we know the trib is full of asteroids hitting the earth, also Ezekiel war. So people keep looking up the Lord is coming soon.

cause for concern?

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ok well i have been still researching and if there is no cause for concern then why is it that sensitive equipment is being powered down for TU24 approach by the military , and also a Spy Satellite Falling From Orbit link http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news
[link to news.mobile.msn.com]

and an increase in seismic activity


http://translate.google.com/translat...icrosoft:en-us
and a meteorite crash



and Strong Infrasonic Resonant Harmonic Energy which was detected and inferred to be associated with building deep crustal stress along the Pacific-North American Plate Boundary in California, Nevada, and Baja Mexico
http://www.geo-seismic-labs.org/GSL/...C_08_01_04.htm


and another meteorite in canada
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNew...83436-sun.html






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What else is interesting is here it is a couple of days before this thing passes by and is Space weather .com talking about it yet? NO!!! They do however have a little paragraph about Venus and Jupiter coming close together on Feb 1st and halo's around the sun and light pollution.

WHY AREN'T THEY TALKING ABOUT THIS?? It makes absolutely no sense that they wouldn't be mentioning it.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
LoisFaith2000
http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/WebVic08_Feb1.jpg

this is the image.......
LoisFaith2000
STRANGE OBJECTS IN THE SKIES by Jim Bramlett 1/28 on: Today at 06:26:02am
Strange objects in the skies
Jim Bramlett
Jan 28 2008 09:04AM


Dear friends:

Sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) have been around for many years, actually going at least all the way back to Ezekiel's day
(see the "wheels" in chapter 1).

There are reasons to believe the sightings may be increasing. Early this month there was a major sighting in Stephenville, Texas, reported in the mainstream media. See CNN report below. Even FOX News' Bill O'Reilly recently interviewed two of the witnesses. Such media reports are usually with ridicule and mockery, and with arrogance assuming the honest witnesses to be ignorant hayseeds. But some witnesses and reports are totally credible, such as the two interviewed by O'Reilly. Even he acted as though they were credible.

Most credible reports do not reach the public. Several years ago I heard an actual radio transmission from one of our astronauts to Houston Control describing UFOs being observed following our spacecraft. That should have made huge headlines worldwide. But is was censored.

Probably most experts believe:

1. The government knows more than is revealed and has always lied to us.
2. The UFOs are real.
3. The UFO inhabitants are not extra-terrestrials from outer space.
4. They are spirit-beings.
5. Recent increased sightings are a sign of the end times.
6. They may tell us the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38-39 and Isaiah 17 are imminent, as described by the revelation I recently reported.
7. UFOs will constitute the coming great deception described in the Bible, aligning with and affirming the antichrist's supernatural powers, while announcing to the world that the Bible is false and Jesus is not God -- the ultimate blasphemies.

With all this in mind, check the reports below, and be amazed:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/14/ufo.sightings.ap/index.html
STEPHENVILLE, TEXAS. 1-17-08. "Several dozen people -- including a pilot, county constable and business owners -- say they have seen a large silent object with bright lights flying low and fast. Some reported seeing fighter jets chasing it."

See transcript of FOX News' Bill O'Reilly interview at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324698,00.html

The credible reports of this large, hovering craft in south Texas prompted P.I.D. Radio to ask Dr. Lynn Marzulli back to discuss his book, Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural: The Coming Great Deception and the Luciferic End Game. Lynn spoke with one of the witnesses in Texas earlier in the day and shared his impressions of what happened there and the (non-)response of Christian churches in the area. Lynn explains why this is a preview of the coming "great deception." Listen to this fascinating audio interview at http://pidradio.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=300839

Personally, I believe all of this is further evidence that Jesus is returning soon!

Jim
LoisFaith2000
From GLP
Acolyte said:

- "The Vatican Astronomers were moved from their current location. Although temporary, this was purposely done as a cover story and distraction to silence some insiders who wanted to reveal what the telescopes by the Vatican was seeing."

It did seem like a strange story at the time. Therese



Maybe this astronomical knowledge is the reason why the sudden departure of the Pope from Rome was given by a visionary as the SIGN TO WATCH that the Great Warning is to about happen (quoting Dr. Mary Jane Even). The Vatican will have first hand information on the 'INCOMING OBJECT and where it will hit.
LoisFaith2000
The Star of Bethlehem and Feb. 1, 2008?

ALL:

February 1st is the "5th" (meaning "GRACE") anniversary of the Shuttle
Columbia "coming apart" over "Palestine", TX. FEW are into prophecy
and watching and, therefore, MANY are in a "type" of "SLEEP" believing
"PEACE AND SAFETY" await their future. In 1 Thes. 5:3 (NOTE the 153
which is the "HARVEST / FISH" number), it says:

...1 Thessalonians 5:3
...While people are saying, "PEACE AND SAFETY," destruction will
...come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and
...they will not escape.

There has been SO MUCH shared by SO MANY on prophecy sites (including
by me) that we "sometimes" wonder "WHAT" to believe and what signs are
real. The heavenly signs are significant as well as "whirlwinds". For some
reason, I almost missed the following.

...From: Fri., Sept. 24, 2004 - Yom Kippur at sundown; Hurricane Ivan's
...........................................2nd visit to the US
...To: Thurs., Jan. 31, 2008 - Venus (representing "Jesus") and Jupiter
...,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.......("King" planet) come together
...It is 1224 days

...From: Sat., Sept. 25, 2004 - Yom Kippur, 2004
...To: Fri., Feb. 1, 2008 - Venus and Jupiter in conjunction
...It is 1224 days

...8 X 153 = 1224

...8 = new beginnings
...153 = the HARVEST number

If you wish to "SEE" the dramatization (a "movie") of Venus and Jupiter coming
together at the end of January, 2008, then go to the URL below. Once we go
into another month other than January, 2008, you will need to go to the archives
of January, 2008 to "see" this.

THIS MONTH'S SKY
Celestial Events -- January 2008

http://www.aaa.org/aaawhatsup.htm

In James Harrison's book, The Pattern and the Prophecy, by using gematria,
he found:

...THE NET = 1224
...FISHES = 1224
...THE LORD GOD = 1224

...What is so mysterious about 1224?
...Only the fact that 1224 = 8 X 153.
...Therefore, it is the chain that binds 8 to 153.

It is interesting that 2004 can be reduced to "24" when taking away the "0's"
and 24 can be made into three 8's or 8+8+8 (888 is the gematria of Jesus)
and that 2004 was ESPECIALLY full of signs. This year, 2004, was brought
to my attention, as I have mentioned before, by Peg Fenn's Yahnunah dream.

From:
(2 June 2004) "Peg Fenn's "Yahnunah" dream / A stream of 11/11's"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2004/calvinm62.htm

FINAL COMMENT:

Maryt shared a post about the Star of Bethlehem possibly being the
conjunction of Jupiter and Venus. THANKS MUCH!!!

SCI -The Heavens Declare Friday Morning

http://www.xsorbit2.com/users/rapturenow/i...i?board=Aussie_ Bloke&action=display&num=1201656048&start=0

ALSO...

Having shared the above, we KNOW that the Ark represented a TOTAL new
beginning for the earth. The coming of Jesus Christ ALSO represented a "new"
beginning, as well. It was a different "type" of beginning and was displayed
FIRST in the heavens by the Star of Bethlehem which, some say, was the
SAME TWO PLANETS (Venus and Jupiter) COMING TOGETHER AS THOSE
WHICH "COME TOGETHER" ON FEBRUARY 1, 2008. They formed the
same type conjunction on August 12, 3 BC and June 17 2 BC.

The Star of Bethlehem

http://sciastro.net/portia/articles/thestar.htm

.......on August 12, 3 BC, Jupiter and Venus came into close conjunction
...just before sunrise, coming within 4.2’ from each other as viewed from earth,
...and appearing as a very bright morning star. This conjunction took place in
...the constellation Cancer, the “end” sign of the Zodiac. Ten months later,
...on June 17 2BC, Venus and Jupiter joined again, this time in the constellation
...Leo. The two planets were at best 6” (arc seconds) apart; some calculations
...indicate that they actually overlapped each other. This conjunction occurred
...during the evening and would have appeared as one very bright star. Even if
...they were 6” apart, it would have required the sharpest of eyes to split the two,
...because of their brightness.

Again from:

THIS MONTH'S SKY
Celestial Events -- January 2008

http://www.aaa.org/aaawhatsup.htm

...On New Year's Day the two planets (Venus and Jupiter) are 31° apart, but they
...are moving in opposite directions, approaching each other at the rate of about
...1 degree per day. Since they are the two brightest planets, their approach will
...command the attention of anyone looking up before sunrise.

...On January 31st, they are 1.2° from each other. The next morning, they
...pass each other only 0.6° apart. A gathering of two such bright objects
...so close together is not to be missed.

A "new" beginning!? What "type"?

That would be for you to discern.

GOD BLESS!!!!!

Calvin

NOTES:

Biblical Numerology

http://www.carm.org/questions/numbers.htm

...8 THE NUMBER OF NEW BEGINNINGS. 8 people on Noah's Ark
...(2 Pet. 2:5); circumcision on 8th day (Gen. 17:12); God made 8
...covenants with Abraham

...153 In John 21:11, after the resurrection the disciples caught 153 fish.
...The word fish in Greek is 'ixthus' which has a numerical equivalent of
...1224, or 8 x 153. Remember, which is Jesus Christ is 888. 153 people
...received a blessing from Jesus in the four gospel (not counting the 5000
...and examples like that).

..."Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake
...and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the
...shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the
...bad away. THIS IS HOW IT WILL BE AT THE END OF THE AGE. The angels
...will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery
...furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:47-50)

...Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish,
...153, but even with so many the net was not torn. (John 21:11)

AND there were "8" people on the Ark!

EIGHT - Denotes resurrection, regeneration; a new beginning or commencement.
The eighth is a new first. Hence the octave in music, colour, days of the week. It is
the number which has to do with the Lord, Who rose on the eighth, or new "first-day".
This is, therefore, the Dominical number. By Gematria (the addition of the numerical
value of the letters together) the Greek letters for Jesus makes the numbers 888. It,
or its multiple is impressed on all that has to do with the Lord's Names, the Lord's
People, and the Lord's works.

Also remember, as concerning the above, the number "153" has to do with the "fish"
that are harvested at the end. 17 ("VICTORY") X 9 ("JUDGMENT") is 153. MANY of
us believe that the rapture is the BEGINNING of great judgment to hit the earth (and,
to me, ESPECIALLY this nation)! So, when you combine the numbers - 17 and 9 - you
can actually "SEE" the numbers' meanings come to life in 153 (the HARVEST number)!

From THE INFINITE BOOK (the information below was 3/4 down into this URL)

http://www.evanwiggs.com/articles/infinite.html

...153 is considered Jesus Celestial number and 888 is considered His earthly.
...Sons of God = 153
...Joint Heirs = 1071 = 7x153

"The Symbolism and Spiritual Significance
of the Number 153" by Dee Finney

http://www.greatdreams.com/153.htm

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More notes on "The Star of Bethehem" and 2/1/08

...From: Friday, September 11, 1998 - Jesus 2000th "earthly" birthday
...To: Friday, February 1, 2008 - Venus and Jupiter "come together"
...........................................................as in the "Star of Bethlehem"
...It is 3430 days
...490 weeks
...49 = the Son of Man
...49 X 10 = 49 "AMPLIFIED" according to James Harrison, author of
.........................................."The Pattern and the Prophecy"

OR.......

...70 X 7 X 7 = 3430 days
...70 = Israel's punishment or restoration
...7 = "spiritual completion"

The above information "could" be significant because "2000" means "crossing
the Jordan" which is a "type" of our RAPTURE! In my notes about "The Star
of Bethlehem", I found this FLASH MOVIE depicting what occurred:

From:
FLASH MOVIE: "The Christmas Star" by John Mosley:

http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/articles/xmas_star.swf

...Aug. 12, 3 BC - conjunction of Venus and Jupiter
...Sept. 11, 3 BC - JESUS CHRIST IS BORN IN BETHLEHEM
...Sept. 14, 3 BC - Jupiter (King Planet) in conjunction with Regulus (the King)
...Feb. 17, 2 BC - Jupiter (King Planet) in conjunction with Regulus (the King)
...May 8, 2 BC - Jupiter (King Planet) in conjunction with Regulus (the King)
...June 17, 2 BC - Jupiter, Venus, and Regulus SHINE AS ONE (towards
........................................................Jerusalem as seen from Babylon)

OTHER NOTES AND TESTIMONY:

My friend and prophecy partner, Carol Ann, wanted to go down on the beach
on the night of September 6, 1998 to see the conjunction of Jupiter, the king
planet, and the Full Moon (the "Harvest Moon" of September that year) as it
rose in the eastern sky over the Atlantic. It was an AWESOME sight! I also
believe it was "telling" us that September 6-12, 1998 was a "special" week!

The first day of that week, Sunday, September 6, 1998, was VERY special to
me because it was my 50th birthday! This SAME week (on 9/11) was also
the 2000th anniversary of Jesus' earthly birth. Since His birth was after sundown
(according to scholars), we "might" include September 12th since the new day
begins at sundown in Israel and.....

...On the morning of September 12, 1998, I was staying in the home
...of my brother who lives near Greenville, SC and went out to see an
...occultation of Aldebaran which my South Carolina prophecy partner,
...who was an AVID reader, had told me about. See it here:

http://www.astro-photography.com/graze.html

More on my testimony of that week in the URL below from:

(21 June 2004) "God's "EYE" is on America!!!!!"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2004/calvinm621-2.htm

Below is an explanation of how the 2000 years are added:

...Jesus was born 9/11-12/3 BC:

..........3 BC to 1 BC = 2 years
...1 BC to year 1 AD = 1 year (there was no year "0")
..........1 AD to 1998 = 1997 years
...................TOTAL = 2000 years

Dr. Ernest L. Martin wrote a book called, The Star of Bethlehem: The
Star that Astonished the World,...

http://www.askelm.com/books/book003.htm

The following is an INCREDIBLE URL showing events on September 11
throughout history. When you scroll about 1/4 down, you will see this:

September 11 in History

http://www.september11news.com/Sept11History.htm

...Many biblical scholars, theologians, historians, and astronomers say
...that the Star of Bethlehem, signifying the birth of Jesus Christ, can
...be calculated to within a few hours of September 11, 3 B.C., based
...on celestial charts and alignments for that time. Historian Dr. Ernest L.
...Martin first article on the subject appeared in 1976, and in 1981 he
...published his research in "The Birth of Christ Recalculated". In 1991,
...the book was re-released as "The Star that Astonished the World."
...Dr. Martin revealed in his book, that the signs in the sky on the night
...of Jesus' birth occurred on only one day in 3 B.C., and they occurred
...exactly on September 11, 3 B.C. between6:15 pm and 7:49 pm EST.

OTHER NOTES:

Other Scholarship Proving the Exact Date of Birth of Yeshua (Jesus), part 5
by Roy A. Reinhold February 1, 2001

http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/articles/yeshuabirth5.html

September 1998 Star Log

http://www.news.ku.edu/1998/98N/AugustNews...13/starlog.html

...A beautiful conjunction of the full moon and Jupiter is scheduled for prime time
...this evening. Jupiter is nearly at opposition, when it will be 180 degrees away
...from the sun's direction. The moon accomplishes this trick every month, as it
...did earlier today.

http://www.trivalleystargazers.org/newslet...8/sep98/page3.h tml

6 Sun Full Moon (the "Harvest Moon") 4:21 a.m. PDT.
Penumbral lunar eclipse 2:14 to 6:06 a.m.
7 Mon Labor Day.

Tishri 5759
Sep - Oct 1998

http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Calendar/5759/01.tishri.htm

http://www.askelm.com/books/book003.htm










Ya'll? you can SEE Jupiter and Venus with the naked eye. Get up just a LITTLE before sunrise. (We saw them at 6:45 central...ya'll can do that...THAT isn't that early!!) Look toward the east and just a little bit to the right of where the sun will be rising you'll see two VERY bright stars.

THAT'S THEM.

If you get to the moon you are too far over to the right and looking to far up.

On the 2nd they are to appear to kiss. THEY ARE THAT CLOSE.

EASY to see!
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Asteroid and Comet watch thread Neo 2008
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I post yesterday about BC15 and now I see a few more threads already, This asteroid is small and I'm sure would burn up. Anyway here is a thread to discuss all inbound or NEO coming are way since the excitement raised with TU24 I have become really interested in this subject. And a big thank you to Ice and many others I learned allot and eager and yearning for more knowledge.
This website below updates daily new found Asteroids I found interesting. Hope I can still keep learning from others and there posts.

MPEC 2008-B63 - "16:45 UT" - 2008 BC15
K08B15C 2008 BC15 (risk-listed, Earth MOID=0.5 LD, H=26.7 ~15m) was discovered at 0729 UT on 30 Jan. by the CSS, which observed it at Jan. 30.31-37p8 and 30.44-49p8. The discovery was confirmed by Farpoint Obs. (Jan. 30.39-40p4). This object is now within ten lunar distances (LD) of Earth, reaching 0.8 LD on 31 Jan. (INTRUDER).

Findings Jan. 30th
MPEC 2008-B65 - "16:54 UT" - 2008 BE15
K08B15E 2008 BE15 (risk-listed, Earth MOID=4.9 LD, H=24.7 ~39m) was discovered at 0911 UT on 30 Jan. by the CSS, which observed it at Jan. 30.38-43p8 and 30.48p4. The discovery was confirmed by Farpoint Obs. (Jan. 30.43-44p4). This object will be coming within ten lunar distances (LD) of Earth, reaching 9.9 LD on 5 Feb.


MPEC 2008-B64 - "16:48 UT" - 2008 BD15
K08B15D 2008 BD15 (Earth MOID=4.2 LD, H=20.7 ~245m) was discovered at 0730 UT on 30 Jan. by the CSS, which observed it at Jan. 30.31-37p8 and 30.44p4. The discovery was confirmed by Farpoint Obs. (Jan. 30.38-39p3).


MPEC 2008-B63 - "16:45 UT" - 2008 BC15
K08B15C 2008 BC15 (risk-listed, Earth MOID=0.5 LD, H=26.7 ~15m) was discovered at 0729 UT on 30 Jan. by the CSS, which observed it at Jan. 30.31-37p8 and 30.44-49p8. The discovery was confirmed by Farpoint Obs. (Jan. 30.39-40p4). This object is now within ten lunar distances (LD) of Earth, reaching 0.8 LD on 31 Jan. (INTRUDER).


<< DOU on 30 Jan. '08 >> MPEC 2008-B62 - "07:09 UT" - Daily Orbit Update
Observations of risk-listed objects
K08A04F 2008 AF4 (arc=20 days, H=19.8 ~371m) from Balzaretto Obs. (Jan. 29.89-91p5), Consell Obs. (Jan. 29.96p5), and Powell Obs. (Jan. 30.19-20p4)
K07Y56V 2007 YV56 (arc=30 days, H=21.0 ~214m) from Powell Obs. (Jan. 30.23-24p3
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com]
LoisFaith2000
From GLP

Re: Asteroid and Comet watch thread Neo 2008 Quote

That does worry me that they are finding so many and most of these they find and they are like 1 day away from crossing our orbit, granted most of them are really small and that might be why.. but is this an unusual amount to be coming across our orbit. in such a short period of time. It just is troubling because i have always heard the ones we have to worry about are the ones we don't know about.. and most of these we did not know about till last week or so. Is there a big one heading this way ?

Link

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message497741/pg2
LoisFaith2000
It says here, We are not alone

Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!
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Space Shuttle Columbia during STS-80 took a crew of five astronauts into a 17 day, 15 hour and 54 minute mission around the earth, the longest flight in the history of this vehicle. During this lengthy flight a very strange event occurred that even had crewman Dr. Story Musgrave unable to explain what he observed from the shuttle windows.

A large disc shaped object appeared below the Columbia. The shuttle was approximately, 190 Nautical miles high.

The disc was first observed to miraculously appear from out of nowhere, flying through the clouds below and progressing from right to left as the astronauts stared in utter amazement. The outer rim of the craft appeared to be rotating counter-clockwise. It was very large (compared to common space junk and breakaway ice), approximately 50 to 150 feet in diameter.

Astronaut Dr. Story Musgrave, a Payload Specialist on the STS-80 Mission, was interviewed following the flight. As he viewed a videotape of the incident which showed lightning flashes in the atmosphere, the city lights of Denver, Colorado and other earthbound sights, he stated: "I don't know what it is. Whether it's a washer, debris, ice particles, I don't know. But it's characteristic of the thousands of things which I've seen. What is not so characteristic is it appears to come from no where. You would think that if it's facing the dark side or facing a side towards you which is not reflecting the sun, you would think that you would see something there. It's really impressive."


During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET life forms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that's an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he's been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it's no great leap for one to assume he's admitting knowledge of alien life. As the final slide of a "Grey" ET was shown during a recent astronomy presentation by Dr. Musgrave, he made this surprising comment: "These guys are real... I guarantee it!" Dr. Musgrave does know the truth. This author guarantees it!

Consider that carefully. These are world renown scientists making statements almost beyond belief. Dr. von Braun and others of his stature have the courage to disclose "sensitive" information, but obviously the leaders of the USA and the world do not. If billions could find a way of coping with the overwhelming threat of atomic annihilation for half a century, it is reasonable to assume we can cope with the knowledge of these "Other Intelligence's" from the stars. We can cope with the fact they are visiting earth, and have been since the beginning of history. We must. Those still asleep must open their eyes. We Are Not Alone

[link to www.agoracosmopolitan.com]

Link

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message463594/pg1
LoisFaith2000
Incoming meteors & comets info / Re: Predicted in 1959, The Seer is Talking of Plan on: 02/10/08 at 03:32:41
REVELATION 16, 18 ... A STAR ...

An enormous quake will shake the earth; spiritually as well as physically, the earth will face a tremor humans have never experienced as yet, since the beginning of this epoch. But this is prophesied, for it is the initiation to the end that will follow not long after that. There is no long period left and your attention to this is pressing more and more, because you are to make use of everyday yet to help maturing your soul, for the time is short and you are approaching the very end with giant steps. And there will follow a long night for all who have not made use of the day to work for the well-being of the soul. For there will be just a few to survive this last end and to be allowed to live on the new earth, a few only will stand firm in the last battle on this earth.

Again and again, the signs of the end are being presented to you humans and the last colossal sign is the great quake. The way it will come about you were told already: A star leaves its orbit and heads for the earth with gigantic speed. The reason why you don’t know anything about it as yet, is due to the great distance this star will have to cover, yet until it enters the focus range of those who will notice it. But at that point the excitement will be big, because everybody recognizes the danger the star “earth” now is in, but nobody can do anything about it to remove the danger. And, since you’re aware of it, this last short time you ought to utilize especially well, for none of you knows as to whether or not he will survive the event. None of you knows which part of the earth will be particularly befallen and nobody should count on being spared, for it is the last big reminding-call of God, which He still lets sound prior to the end in order to find faith for just this end and a turn around of the few who are not quite enslaved to the adversary altogether as yet.

Do not think lightly about these prophesies, do not let yourselves be disconcerted by the apparent work of building up you can observe from the side of the world, but be aware that the shadows of annihilation are already showing up. There’s not much time left to pass by, until you will receive word of that disaster approaching you in the form of a star to be hurled out of its orbit, because it is God’s will that the earth be stricken by a quake, that is meant to, and can possibly save those people who’s will is good. There truly won’t be a lack of signs for the close end, but this one sign has a tremendous effect and many people will lose their life in the course of it. And no one will be able to play deaf, for it is too enormous, than that it couldn’t possibly touch everybody.

Only, the success is different, for people will partly revive their weak faith and again return to God, but also partly lose their weak faith and completely turn to the opponent which will be expressed in chasing after material possessions, mostly in an illegitimate manner. And there will be a great misery amongst people. And that’s when the true faith will prove itself, which means help for every person who faithfully submits to God. For He will help all those who want to be His, who in their greatest affliction remember Him Who alone is able to help. And the time will begin where there will have to be performed proper vineyard work for the sake of helping all those who are still weak in the spirit and are to experience a strengthening of their faith. For that’s when the time of the last struggle of faith will follow that will still demand a last decision of the believers; yet, whoever will be steadfast until the end shall be blessed.[overjoyed]
Amen
LoisFaith2000
Blood Red Moon / East Coast, 2/20 / at sickle of Leo!

From:
This Week's Sky at a Glance

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/ataglance/

The Sign Leo (The Lion)
Messiah's consummated triumph

http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/chap34.htm

In LEO we reach the end of the Revelation as inspired in the Word of God; and it is the end as written in the heavens.

This is the one great truth of the closing chapter of this last Book. It is THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH AROUSED FOR THE RENDING OF THE PREY.

The brightest star, a (on the Ecliptic), marks the heart of the Lion (hence sometimes called by the moderns, Cor Leonis, the heart of the Lion). Its ancient name is Regulus, which means treading under foot.

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Revelation 14
The Harvest of the Earth
14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one "like a son of man" with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp SICKLE in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your SICKLE and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his SICKLE over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

17 Another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp SICKLE. 18 Still another angel, WHO HAD CHARGE OF THE FIRE, came from the altar and called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp SICKLE, "Take your sharp SICKLE and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth's vine, because its grapes are ripe." 19 The angel swung his SICKLE on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God's wrath. 20 They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of t