>From: "Jhonathon Edwards"
>To: <madmikkie@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Ramjah10 advise maybe some help to understand
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:59:20 +1030
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>Thanks for replying in my forum are you aware of someone who has had a problem like my self?
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>I am beginning to think that I am loosing my marbles but its so intense my initial dream and then this coded names and words, that seem to be encoded into the bible and gospels... few of them I am hearing questions different to what is read and then I hear the answer again different to the script I'm reading listening to.
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>What does this mean or am I crazy?
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>Help Jhon
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-----Original Message-----
From: madmikkie@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 7:23 PM
To: jhonathonedwards
Subject: RE: Ramjah10 advise maybe some help to understand
Like I said - do what I suggested in EMC first. I guess it doesn't matter which one you do - peace and love or using Jesus's name.....I mean - to me it does, but to you at the moment, go with what your heart says when it comes to this. Read my further posts if you haven't already.
The forum I go to is www.christian-forum.net. Now the thing is - because of hackers, they've set up some new rules so new people can't post new topics until they've responded ( I think) to 10 others, and everything is moderated. Checked by the mods before it gets posted for the newbies.....coz of those hacker morons....devil worshippers - who else! I've kept my nick the same in all places I go - just change the passwords - that way I don't have to be four or five different people at once.
When I was hearing things initially- I was not a 'practising' christian. In fact I was dabbling in tarot, consulting psychics - all that sort of stuff.
I had an aneurysm burst in my brain in '96 when I was 26 - one of the first things I can remember ( it was just before my 26th birthday - sorry) when I woke up was asking my mother if I can have a white bible please for my birthday. I also had a 'vision' of me in a black space - and i was the only thing of colour - and a light. And I stood there and said I flatly refused to die. It's not going to happen - no WAY! So here I am. In fact - I started hearing 'demons' & seeing them in dreams bout 4 years ago - when I started going back to church. THey stopped after a while....it then became demon dreams and arguments with God and Jesus when confronted by the devil or a demon - I was trying to speak - but satan was sealing my mouth. I
could feel it sealing up. THen one time I absolutely spat it - turned around and yelled at - I presume it was God - whomever was standing behind me "AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING ME HERE!" A chap who goes by the name of Traveller62Au - whom I haven't seen around on the forum for a while, but who has an ability to interpret these dreams told me - I was being 'trained' for spiritual warfare - that yes - it was a spiritual battle, but I had back up all the way. that was the basics of what you said Trav
Then the dreams changed.....again. Now I get poems, "Words' in dreams for people ( although not frequently), prayers, lots of stuff. And sometimes I can interpret other's dreams and sometimes I can just counsel them.
When all this started again to be frequent - I was petrified - thought maybe I had another aneurysm in my head so had a CT scan! Nope. Nothing. I've learned to tell the difference between GOd's voice and the other side's voice. You cannot describe His voice. It's like a voice you recognise - but it has no sound. It's a word that is spoken - but it's not....it's really weird. Hmm - that could be the beginnings of a new poem there (LOL).
It can be demanding. It can be loud. It can be a whisper. And all those times I heard my name being called....I now wonder if it was Him asking me to turn around and come back. Sometimes, the voice even seems to be my mothers! and she's alive and kicking in northern Tas.
Without specifics, though, of the dreams and noises - which is why you need a diary or to write them down, it's really hard to say what's going on......specially when i'm not in "the zone" - I'm too scattery today to
settle on anything....Hugh Laurie's gonna be on tv tonight and that's all I care about.
CHeck out the forum above. IF you like - I can post on your behalf...even what you've dumped on the EMC forum I can post for you and see if anyone comes up with anything. But I will not do anything without permission from you.
My husband said - when I read your post out to him, go back to the basics. WhIch for him I believe is - go to the gospels. Go to God and go to Jesus. You've got enough background in christianity to know all this. Maybe it's just now time to use it mate.
Hear from you soon - see you on EMC.
Michelle
And Jhonathon's last response - in which I believe he gave tacit approval to ask people here for help....sorry about the punctuation - but it's how he wrote it.
Well I was once Christian myself and left the religious side of my life some 7 years ago, 4 nights ago while Asleep I had a dream it was of a light so bright, Like someone with flood light right on you and I heard something like tribulation over and over and then this large poetic words of a you could say lecture when It began to get scary I woke up, went to toilet and back to bed it continued and has 4 nights I started to think something Possibly religious of it so borrowed a friends CD room of the gospels and bible and started to read and thought I would have the computer read it out loud save me staring at screen for long period as the computer began reading aloud yesterday and today and continued into the scripture I was feeling a
loud noise in my ear when certain areas where read out loud and when I read the screen the words stand out Like no tomorrow whilst a lot of this is in Riddle I feel as if I'm hearing and seeing Crazy things, Conflicted I am so much that I remember the exact speech/poetry I heard through dream and as for the scripture its not something that appears to be leaving me anytime soon. I currently have a tumor being my right eye and have refused medical treatment for this but never before something like this has occurred and the poetry and pieces of clues in parts of scripture also when read out loud I hear A question asked I also hear An answer given but what I am hearing is not what is being read aloud? Am I crazy even scarier is I was born on the 16/03/81 Jhonathon Daniel is my name however the poetry though called me by my birth name as my name was changed after a vicious assault the Voice I guess u could call it identified me by Kingsley which was freaky as haven't used that name for ever so HELP anyone please what I'm hearing and reading and finding is worrying am I CRAZY
Please post advice. Or do I need help or can someone else hear the same?
Jhon
now - this following stuff is from the forum where he initally asked and I made contact with him. I'll only delete the smiley's from that forum because they're not supported on this one
ramjah10
7/2/2007 6:28:46 PM
Once I was a very religious person (years ago in my teens) and followed the faith very very close, Recently someone gave me a copy of the Bible and various scriptures of various saints that I could read and If I choose listen to the computer read back to my self. Well 4 nights ago in wee hours of morning had weird dream of a bright light like someone pointing a flood light directly on you and tribulation tribulation and all this weird rhyming words that Ohh! like poetry and then I woke up went to the toilet and back to bed closed my eyes again and the same thing occured.. Me freaking now wake my friend up who shrugs me off like some wierdo well to make things worse i was using the material my friend gave me and had the computer reading it back to me whilst it was doing this OH!! MY! ***** as its reading it Im hearing some crap " not in my mind" but some words read are like making my ears throb my friend says Im crazy but NO way I;m so sane that I couldnt get a rest or stay at hospital even if i tried faking so why is this happening anyone else this happen to? when hearing the text from bible and saints texts do you hear anything weird?
ramjah10
7/2/2007 6:29:49 PM
Oh what the ** is tribulation I cant find in russian dictionary
Steph_Me
7/2/2007 6:33:30 PM
The Tribulation Period is the 7 years where there will be hell on earth.. when the anti-christ rises.. ya no??
ramjah10
7/2/2007 6:35:20 PM
What the ***? 7 years of what and what the hell i never read anything bout that where it say that
HAHAHAH sure serious?
Spin
7/2/2007 6:37:46 PM
There is probably a sublimal (sp) messeage burried behind the readings.
Steph_Me
7/2/2007 6:38:40 PM
yes ... lol... and the rapture is when everyone who believes in god goes up to heaven.. the tribulation period comes like right after that.. i think
ramjah10
7/2/2007 6:45:22 PM
No it comes on disc, Thought that my friend had dont something to the disc but i tried to burn on to the disc and u cant. but its not only the disc and what the? My faith went walkabout sometime after the church manipulated me..and treated me like some outcast becuase i not want to be some pastor or youth leader, So i have no Idea but the Dream I cant beieve its so intense, I've dreamt b4 falling from cliff and scary crap but Never this intense or weird. and what is the Speaking in rhymns and poetry like???? now that is weird and the weird odd things when hearing and looking at the text is odd, I hear a name of some kind everytime numbers are spoken i hear either a name or word and freaking me out even thinking about going to doctors.. I DONT WANT TO DREAM THIS CRAP or hear or read this crap again Its All too weirdBlank face
kashew7/2/2007 6:45:34 PM
what does that say? to many letters. do you talk how you type? coz if you do, maybe you are crazy Rolling on the floor laughing (rofl)
Spin
7/2/2007 6:46:04 PM
Either This, Examples of day-to-day hypnotic language:
The interesting point is that actually, one doesn't need to have sublimal messages that flash across a screen. Even advertising in its current state can influence purchase decisions - why? Because hypnotic language is all around us anyway, in our day-to-day life. Anything high-level, anything that is very unspecific is hypnotic because we as individuals have our own individual definition and opinion about those high-level and unspecific words - when we hear many of those long enough, our mind starts to wander about into different directions. This then is the time when hypnotic suggestions are possible.
ramjah10
7/2/2007 7:00:22 PM
No sleep, And quick typing , " I SOUND CRAZY" trust me IM strating to think I am. But the names i hear inreplace of the numbers are odd and things in the dream are real weird and not my subcon either. But real intense and some the text i hear is contradiction but i hear a question asked with a answer given , Not actuall text but while listening to it Im hearing questions very direct as well with an answer to that question but its not what is being read on screen... I KNOW CRAZY well almost getting there
ramjah10
7/2/2007 7:01:52 PM
to be hypnotised i would be aware of this for sure had that done when i was assaulted in 1998 to help memory, " It Didn't Work"
MadMikkie
7/2/2007 7:04:46 PM
Welcome!
Sorry- I am being serious. I sometimes get that too. And it's not hypnosis! You may not want it.....but matey - you got it. Someone is trying to tell you something. Listen to what is being said to you. Listen carefully. Look it up in your Bible if it's a verse. Wrtie down your dreams.
For every person who walks away from Faith and God, there is still a tie that cannot be broken. It's different from never believing in the first place. But it's like God sits there in the back row of the cinema - having already seen the movie just waiting for the right time to make his move.
And FYI to all the christian bashers - If you want to get technical - I was baptised 4 years ago - my friends think I 'became born again' after I answered an alter call - but technically I was already a christian - just hadn't gone to church since my grandmother's wedding I think...nope - my niece and nephew's 'naming ceremony' which my sister wanted held in a church. My nephew will be 13 this year - he was about 2 or 3 when he had his naming ceremony. So it's not as if I've always been a goody goody 'christian'. I wouldn't even say the words Jesus or Christ unless I was swearing.
I get dreams, messages -all that sort of stuff - not often - but until I act upon things 'given' to me - I don't get left alone.....to sleep. So act! Then sleep.
If you're not sure if it is God - you know what to do! Rebuke.
And that's all I'm gonna say for the moment.
If you want I can direct you to a forum where dreams are posted and are - hopefully, interpreted by someone who has that ability. You can email me at madmikkie@hotmail.com
Again - I am serious
ramjah10
7/2/2007 7:12:10 PM
I have never been Baptised and I am worried Im loosing my marbles all the riddling poetry like talk is strange and as for hearing names when the number in a bible are read or some work is even more crazy! I really considering ASIS mental health come out coz man.. the things heard when the text being read is weird too I spent 5 hours last night having my Computer read me the bible and some of the gospels and OMG! weird its like words and pieces of some puzzle.
ramjah10
7/2/2007 7:12:56 PM
Its something about opening something for life or **** like that and IM Crazy my friends says it loosing it
MadMikkie
7/2/2007 7:29:07 PM
opening something for life
well - a Christian would say - open the Bible for life...which I am....but I'm not necessarily saying that. You sound seriously confused and concerned. And it doesn't matter whether you're baptised or not - I first became a christian when I was 6 or 7 - we're talking 30 years ago here. I mentioned it coz some people don't think your 'real' unless you have been baptised - and don't get me started on them demanding you be baptised with the Holy spirit....it's in HIS time not ours.
Anyway. A psychic friend of mine said to me back in the '90's - when I was hearing voices and children laughing and phones ringing ( I didn't have a phone - and where I worked the phones weren't like that) - and seeing faces when I closed my eyes. - If you say 'Go in peace and love.....then if they're nasties - theoretically - they'll go away. Frankly - after the laughing children woke me up for the umpteenth time ( no children in the street - it was a main arterial road and I don't think there were any young families until a block and a half away - and kids that young aren't allowed out at 3am!)...I sat up and said P*** off - leave me alone and let me sleep. DIdn't hear anything againg until about 4 years or so ago.
Christians tend to say - as you would know - In the name Of our Saviour, Jesus Christ, - then most of them add all this extra stuff just to make sure - I bind you and cast you out demon/satan - whichever you wish to use - prolly demon coz satan is also a demon isnt' he???
If what it takes is for you to wake up - write down what is said and post it here - fine. Do that. But as someone who is regularly woken - and has to write things down, it will stop. You just need to clarify where it's coming from. Don't listen to the cd or whatever it is your doing.........you can read your bible....but if it's stressing you to do so - don't do that either.
But - basically - the above steps are those that are required to be taken to at least try to deal with it.
Just focus on what's being said - write it down - and I even ask politely - can I go back to sleep now????? You're not crazy - I don't think.
Have you spoken to the people who gave you the bible/cd??
ramjah10
7/2/2007 7:35:35 PM
yes they say im crazy too nothing wrong with the disc they loaned me and joking about it but im so serious its not funny but is because its so crazy who would believe this crazy stuff.
It like i said b4 is beginging to make me worry and question my saneness
ramjah10
7/2/2007 7:41:19 PM
I have emailed you Madmike but not sure if aNYONE CAN HELP me I have written down what was said in the dream " one thing I do have is photographic Memory" and what i heard in the dream i have written down and what i hear when listening to the texts well i'm hearing same everytime i listen but havent written it down yet why should I? AS FOR POSTING on HERE... Couldnt it be use to lock me up in hospital..? Mentally drained here now as is
MadMikkie
7/2/2007 7:56:01 PM
I've responed back to you Ram.
RE posting on here - lots of christians and lots of christian bashers.....you take what ya get
ramjah10
7/2/2007 8:02:05 PM
but are they capable of helping.. I dont know had trust once and was manipulated and dont need someone to bash ppls religion or beliefs but Its crazy and hard and I dont understand
MadMikkie
7/2/2007 8:05:59 PM
i'm not into manipulation - unless it's to get my kids to behave.....right now I have to go and get my 5mth old manipulated into his jammies.....so prolly won't be on again 2nite
Sorry about all the asterixes - but as I said - I prefer honesty - and that's what he put - asterix's and that's what I said with the asterix's.
I hope it's clear to whomever God chooses to read this and get the understanding. For the moment - I don't have any clarity - I'm tired and I got a house to get spick and span tomorrow for my parent's visit friday morning.
Thanks in advance.
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