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labman24
Does anyone have an idea of the significance of this number? I don't have a clue but would like to get some insight.

senteami3
I believe this is the PRE COUNTED, PREDESTINED people who will be raptured. (There are 153 species of fishes as well!!! (at least at the time of Jesus!) Each one was different, and they were COUNTED!
Spirit Filled One
QUOTE(labman24 @ Feb 6 2007, 07:39 PM) [snapback]101078[/snapback]

Does anyone have an idea of the significance of this number? I don't have a clue but would like to get some insight.




Ok, here are a couple of things, (Im sure that there are others also).

Some months ago, I was given an explanation that I have not checked the accuracy of, but here it is.

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The four Gospels record precisely 153 individuals who were specifically blessed by Jesus Christ. These divine blessings through their personal encounters with Jesus Christ included salvation, divine healings, resurrections, as well as those persons who were personally blessed through witnessing Christ supernaturally bless their friend or loved one (such as Jairus and his daughter).

These people include the 70 disciples, 11 apostles, 10 lepers, 4 brethren of the Lord, the palsied man and bearers, the Centurion, Lazarus, Mary, Martha, the blind men, the demon-possessed man, Nicodemus, Peter’s mother-in-law, etc.

Between the 4 Gospels the total of these blessed people does add up to 153. It’s unlikely that this number of 153 is a mere coincidence. It clearly demonstrates that the Lord numbers and watches over every individual who places his faith and trust in Him.

As Jesus states in Matthew 10:29-31 "Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows." (NIV).
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Let me just repeat that this is not my research and I have not investigated the accuracy of this above claim.

But, What I have found is, if you take a look at an old map of Jerusalem in the time of Christ, it has 7 mountains:1.) Mount Gared; 2.) Mount Goath; 3.) Mount Acra; 4.) Mount Bezetha; 5.) Mount Moriah; 6.) Mount Ophel; 7.) Mount Zion.

In studying the word Zion, I have found that it continues to imply one thing, and that is that this is the mountain (or place) where God dwell's with His chosen people and they have fellwship with Him.
And I know that this is through His spirit.

I did a word search in the King James Bible on each of the names of the mountains that were in Jerusalem in the time of Christ and found that some of the mountains are not found in the Bible at all and others just a few times, but Mount Zion is found exactly 153 times. Not sure of what this means, but its kind of interesting.

In Christ,
Chris



THE SEVEN THUNDERS
The number "153" is divisible by "9", which implies a whole cycle of completion, for "9" is the number of the end, so "153" is "17" cycles of "9" (9 X 17 = 153). The number "17" is the number of "super-abundant prosperity", for it deduces to the number of abundance, resurrection, healing, wholeness, rejuventaion, new beginnings and Divine Protection, which is the number "8" (17 = 1 + 7 =8). When the Joseph of Genesis turned "17" years in age, his father Jacob (Israel) gave him the "tunic of many colors", i.e. the nations. The number "17" has to do with the coming "Joseph Annointing" that will be bestowed on certain people in the Body of Christ, and like the "abundance" of the 153 fish it has to do with multiplied wealth. Jesus has shown me that I will receive the Joseph Annointing, and it is to be used with prudence in the coming 7 years of prosperity to save up resources, money and food for the coming 7 years of famine that will follow during the "Rule of the Beast". In this manner, God's people will be able to endure in the coming cashless society that will be under way during the 7 years of the Beast and the famine over the whole of the Earth.

God has shown me that the release of this annointing will occur on July 10, 2007 (this year). I have been shown that on that day I will "die", i.e. I will die to the "Old Nature" and the Lord will "Transform" me into the "New Nature". I believe the Joseph Annointing is apart of this. Incidentally, July 10, 2007 equates to the number "17" or "8"... 7/10/2007 = 7 + 1 + 0 + 2 + 0 + 0 + 7 = 17 = 1 + 7 = 8. Note that the name "Yeshua" (Jesus) when transposed into Greek and then into numbers is "888", Christ's "Hidden Name". The 8th letter to the Hebrew alphabet, the "chet" or "het", is the number of resurrection, rejuvenation, restoration, new beginnings, and Divine Protection. The number "8" is highly associated with Christ: He was born in the 8th month of October (octo- means eight); He "Transfigured" 8 days after speaking to His disciples; He appeared to His disciples 8 days "after" His Resurrection; He was crucified, resurrected and ascended in the 8th House of the Zodiac, being Aries (according to the Ancient Egyptians), which means the "Ram", or "the Lamb put forth"; the constellational construct of Aries is composed of exactly 8 stars; this construct is on the "Rabbinic Abrahamic Shield" representing the Ram in the thicket sacrificed by Abraham; Bethlehem is at a 26-degree angle from Jerusalem; and so on... it is interesting to note that Aries' "alpha star", being the brightest star in a constellation, is named "Hammal", meaning "Keeper of the Door", "Keeper of the Gate", or "Keeper of Heaven's Gate". The "Door" is a metaphor for Jesus. I believe that on 7/10/2007 this "Heaven's Gate" in Aries will briefly open releasing a Supernatural Frequency that will cause a "Transformation", and it will be the fulfillment of the "Dream of Jacob's Ladder", for a ladder is a symbol of a frequency.

Not all Christians will have the Joseph Annointing; it may just be reserved for a mere 153 end time leaders, the New Josephs of the End of Ages.
dennis mann
Read the book THEOMATICS II, by Del Washburn
Scarborough House , 1994

in the greek alphabet;
the first letter alpha = the numeric value 1
the second letter "beta" = 2
the 3rd letter = 3

in the hebrew alphabet;
the first letter has a numerical value of 1
the 2nd letter = 2
and so on

in any good secular dictionary , such as Webster's, this "number code" is shown under "Special Signs and Symbols", which lists all the Greek letters with their appropriate numerical values.

this numbering system has been accepted for centuries, world-wide (it's not a modern invention)

Del was curious about Ivan Panin's research into number patterns in the Bible text.
Del noticed that the 153 fishes was an odd "clue" , waiting for more study.

if you add the numerical values for every greek letter within the word "fishes", the sum of the values is 1224 (which is 153 x 8).

the net = 1224 (153 x 8)

fishers of men = 153 x 14

drew the net to land full of fishes (john 21;11) = 153 x 31

of great a hundred and fifty three = 153 x 23

multitude of fishes (luke 5;6) = 153 x 16

draught (luke 5;4) = 153

at thy word (luke 5;5 ) = 153 x 8

this is just the tip of the iceburg.....Del has a whole book fuill of this stuff
i've not checked his math

calvin
QUOTE(signet @ Feb 8 2007, 12:52 AM) [snapback]101243[/snapback]

Hey Cal,

He 'watches' over His children and His word...

Does anyone know what time it is?


The Kingdom of God is at Hand.


Blessings,
Signet



Hey Signet,

Sorry to say, but there are many that do not know the time.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD = 153

A NUMBERING SIGN = 153

leia
"Funny-strange" that this should come up now in the Dean's mail....

I had a 'God moment' during Sunday morning teaching relating to what Jesus ment by "upon this rock I shall build my temple"....

It was Mother's day and my kids were taking me to my favorite place, Books A Million, to get three of my favorite things, grande coffee with triple fudge cake and a new study bible, and I was going to tell them what God had said but somehow it all came around to these fish....and the impression that it was important that I understand the importance of the of the number of fish counted.

In the notation of all types of fish and, so, all types of peoples....there is something.....

I will have to keep praying and seeking, but there is something else.

leia
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (labman24 @ Feb 6 2007, 08:39 PM) *
Does anyone have an idea of the significance of this number? I don't have a clue but would like to get some insight.



http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=18360&hl=
Research : 153 Fishes, Linking To 153 Days Of The Eastern Time Zone Vision
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (labman24 @ Feb 6 2007, 08:39 PM) *
Does anyone have an idea of the significance of this number? I don't have a clue but would like to get some insight.



New info posted today.... about 153

Post #19
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...18&start=18
Stephen
The 153 fish count has absolutely no prophetic significance at all.
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Stephen @ May 15 2008, 06:13 PM) *
The 153 fish count has absolutely no prophetic significance at all.





Aleph = one (1) = ox

He = five (5) window

Gimel = three (3) = camel


100 ( one hundred ) = Qoph = back of the head

50 ( fifty ) = Nun = fish

3 (three) = Gimel = camel


When you evaluate the Hebrew alphabet, regarding the numerical 153, you have all the
above and more not listed.

The story of the 153 fishes miracle, is about the subject of fish (50). The fish is related to the
symbol for Christians. Also involves the Tribe of Dan, meaning ' A Judge '.

The 100 (Qoph) is linked to the symbolic understanding of the Tribe of Joseph, who
is the ' OX ' of Ezekiel's United States bloodline. Joseph meaning ' Jehovah Has Added '.

The 3(Gimel), is related to the Hebrew understanding of camel. Meaning survival.
The Tribe of Judah, is related to the camel. Judah meaning ' Praised '.

I see prophecy potential in all of the above.

However, there is a reason that Peter's ( the rock ) . . . net caught 153 fishes and not
152 fishes.

And if you have studied the timelines, you know that repeated prophecy number's relating
to the destruction dates of the Temple of Jerusalem are more than a odd chance.

Number's are involved in prophecy.
Stephen
"I see prophecy potential in all of the above."

Tell me what it is
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Stephen @ May 15 2008, 10:16 PM) *
"I see prophecy potential in all of the above."

Tell me what it is





http://bible.cc/mark/16-15.htm
King James Bible
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

John 21
In Verse 15 Jesus said "Feed my lambs." Here the Greek word for feed, bosko, meaning tend to the flock, take care of, guide, lead, defend, and by Jesus used the Greek word, arnion,. Jesus also uses this word 27 times in Revelation.

Revelation is about prophecy.

And the commandment, to go preach the gospel to every creature is part of the prophecy of John 21:

In verse 16 the Greek wording is changed when he says "Feed my sheep." Here it means "and feed" my sheep can be translated as lost men or saved men. So it could read, and feed the lost men.



http://www3.sympatico.ca/bibleprophecy/crucifixion2.html

On his third appearance, seven were present at the sea of Tiberias near Galilee where they went fishing in a boat. After fishing all night they had caught nothing. Early in the morning Jesus appeared on shore but they did not recognize him. Jesus said "Children have ye any meat?" in this case meaning fish. The word children here is the Greek word paidion meaning a term of endearment. They replied, No. Jesus said to cast the net on the right side of the ship, where it became so full they were unable to haul it in. JOHN.21:1-6.

Jesus had used this phrase before and John recognized it and told Peter that the person was the Lord. The other deciples were in a small ship and came to aid in dragging the fish to shore. On getting to shore they see a fire going, fish cooking and also bread. Verses 7-11.

Jesus said, "Come and dine.", and Jesus fed them fish and bread, Verses 12-14. This is the third showing to a majority of apostles after rising from the dead, but the seventh appearance since the resurrection.

After they had eaten, Verse 15, Jesus asks Simon Peter, "Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?" and his reply was that he loved him and Jesus said "Feed my lambs." Peter is always addressed as Simon except in LUKE.22:34. The word "love" here is the Greek verb, agapao, in Verses 15 and 16 which means supremely or perfectly while Simons reply of "I love thee." the Greek verb phileo is used meaning, to like, be fond of, or friendship. In Verse 15 Jesus said "Feed my lambs." Here the Greek word for feed, bosko, meaning tend to the flock, take care of, guide, lead, defend, and by Jesus used the Greek word, arnion,. Jesus also uses this word 27 times in Revelation. The other word for lamb is amnos used in John.1:29;,36; Acts.8:32; and I.Peter.1:19. In verse 16 the Greek wording is changed when he says "Feed my sheep." Here it means "and feed" my sheep can be translated as lost men or saved men. So it could read, and feed the lost men.
Stephen
CSA,

So what does this tell me additionally about Bible prophecy? 20 words or less.
Justice
Come on, now, Stephen, no need to be grouchy. Working together open minded yields better results.
DaDad
QUOTE (labman24 @ Feb 6 2007, 08:39 PM) *
Does anyone have an idea of the significance of this number? I don't have a clue but would like to get some insight.

Hi LabMan24,
This is a REALLY good question, one which I've considered creating a topic for, but never have.

First of all I would propose that christians are to become fishers of men. In this endeavor, one needs to hear the guidance of when and where to fish, (they had been fishing all night and not caught a single fish in their own strength).

Secondly, christians are to go into all the nations. In this consideration one could evaluate the representation in todays one-world-government candidate, -- the United Nations. As of today, there are 192 listed member nations.(1) Of these, some have "parent" representation typical of Russia representing former Russian states; some other nations may have affiliated representation; and yet others are not full members (although listed as such) but still participate in some UN agencies.(2)

Per the above, I would suggest that at the end of this age there will be an accounting of this organization which should tally to 153 nations.

And if I might suggest one more concept in this regard: If one were to consider the 200 cubits from shore, and perform some mathmatical gymnastics (which I typically distain), one could multiply that number by ten (the number of "completion") and arrive to 2,000. This number would be approximate to the duration until the return of Christ.

Hope this helps provide some food for thought! smile.gif

With Best Regards,
DaDad

1 http://www.un.org/members/list.shtml#p
2 http://www.dfa.gov.za/foreign/bilateral/tonga.html
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Stephen @ May 16 2008, 07:56 PM) *
CSA,

So what does this tell me additionally about Bible prophecy? 20 words or less.




TWENTY WORDS:
Here it means "and feed" my sheep can be translated as lost men or saved men. Feed the lost men.


pOST #4
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=18360&hl=
Research : 153 Fishes, Linking To 153 Days Of The Eastern Time Zone Vision
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