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duncdrewnoah
i wanted to get some feedback on this:

I have been study what yr we are in for over a yr now...(based on the theory that there will be 6000 yrs of man, then the millinuem)

i am counting jewish yrs at 360 days each...

i have come to this: abraham born in 2008 (after creation)
called at age 75=2090 yrs after creation
430 yrs later is the exodus and law is given to moses=2520 (notice that is 7x360) not by chance I dont think
480 yrs later, solomon starts the temple=yr 3000 after creation-again i dont think that is by chance
36 more yrs of solomon as king then about 394 of other kings until Jerusalem falls and the temple is destroyed..you can get any number of yrs here counting the kings depending on which website you visit, but i got this from studing the scriptures and it brings us to the yr 3430
70yrs later the temple is rebuilt=3500 (again, notice the timing, exactly mid way in 7000 yrs)
i believe jesus was born in a jubilee yr (thats my theory)...but if we look at daniel-the 70 yrs of captivity went from 3430 til 3500, the 70 weeks pro[hecy would have Jesus being born at 3950 (a jubilee yr from creation) and his death in 3983....if he died around passover of our 31 ad (i know you can debate 30-33 ad among a few other dates) 2007-31 ad =1976 yrs x 365.242 days divided by 360 days for jewish yrs =about 5989.....I stick with 31 ad because 14000 days from passover 31 is th 9th of av when the temple was destroyed in 70ad....now that 5988/5989 is a close quess not exact cause our dates are so messed up but another interesting thing here is if it took 2000 jewish yrs from Jesus birth in 4 or 3 BC (depening on if you count a yr zero) you get our 1967. So my theory is that Jesus was born in a jubilee yr, 2000 yrs later in another jubilee, Jerusalem is returned to Israel...that would put us about 5990....this could mean nothing but this also fits 1948+70...(israel becoming a nation, this generation will not pass)...

thoughts???
bonomike
QUOTE(duncdrewnoah @ Feb 5 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]100916[/snapback]

i wanted to get some feedback on this:

I have been study what yr we are in for over a yr now...(based on the theory that there will be 6000 yrs of man, then the millinuem)

i am counting jewish yrs at 360 days each...

i have come to this: abraham born in 2008 (after creation)
called at age 75=2090 yrs after creation
430 yrs later is the exodus and law is given to moses=2520 (notice that is 7x360) not by chance I dont think
480 yrs later, solomon starts the temple=yr 3000 after creation-again i dont think that is by chance
36 more yrs of solomon as king then about 394 of other kings until Jerusalem falls and the temple is destroyed..you can get any number of yrs here counting the kings depending on which website you visit, but i got this from studing the scriptures and it brings us to the yr 3430
70yrs later the temple is rebuilt=3500 (again, notice the timing, exactly mid way in 7000 yrs)
i believe jesus was born in a jubilee yr (thats my theory)...but if we look at daniel-the 70 yrs of captivity went from 3430 til 3500, the 70 weeks pro[hecy would have Jesus being born at 3950 (a jubilee yr from creation) and his death in 3983....if he died around passover of our 31 ad (i know you can debate 30-33 ad among a few other dates) 2007-31 ad =1976 yrs x 365.242 days divided by 360 days for jewish yrs =about 5989.....I stick with 31 ad because 14000 days from passover 31 is th 9th of av when the temple was destroyed in 70ad....now that 5988/5989 is a close quess not exact cause our dates are so messed up but another interesting thing here is if it took 2000 jewish yrs from Jesus birth in 4 or 3 BC (depening on if you count a yr zero) you get our 1967. So my theory is that Jesus was born in a jubilee yr, 2000 yrs later in another jubilee, Jerusalem is returned to Israel...that would put us about 5990....this could mean nothing but this also fits 1948+70...(israel becoming a nation, this generation will not pass)...

thoughts???


Could be...

Benjamin Baruch in his book The Day of the Lord is at Hand argues that there was a 240-year error made in the Jewish calendar during/after the Babylonian captivity. I can't really say one way or the other. However, he puts us already into the 7th millenium after creation. If we're in the 7th (day) then things are just about to wrap up.

Praise God!

He also demonstrates how each thousand-year "day" mirrors, in a figure, the work of God during each corresponding day of the seven days' creation. It's pretty neat. As a brief example, in the sixth day, God made man and commanded him to subdue the Earth. In this last 6000 years, man has done more to subdue the Earth than in any other millenium. He travels from place to place, and knowledge about the Earth is increasing exponentially. The other 1000-year periods are described similarly.

May we be about the Lord's work while there's still time.

In Christ,

Mike
Adonaicole
A thousand years are as a day in the Lord's eyes. So that should mean that the seventh thousand years are a "day" of rest (Christ's 1,000 year reign).
End-Time Calling
tell me more about this year 5990 and how you get it. .
So what you are saying is if that leaves ten years, then we have 3 or less years before the 7 year peace treaty will be signed. what you think.
Messiahiscoming
Yes Mike I have also heard that there is an error of 240 years.

At any rate I think we should be looking up that is for sure!



Val

Messiahiscoming

mmddll
I have not done the calculations myself, but I have seen several websites that suggest Abraham was born in 2166 B.C.



If you follow the genealogy of Adam (Genesis 5) and Shem (Genesis 11), you can count the years of "begats" and get 1946 years from Adam to Abraham's birth. (If you look carefully, you'll notice there is no break in lineage, except there seems to be a discrepancy when Noah begets Shem Ham and Japheth at 500 years of age, then Shem Begets Arphaxad at age 100, 2 years after the flood which happened in Noah's 600th year, which might bring the birth of Abraham to 1948 years after Adam, in which case you would have to adjust these calculations by 2 years)



In the genealogy from Adam to Abraham, there are 19 names mentioned (including Abraham). In order to get the average age of a generation, you divide the total by the number of people, in this case 1946 divided by 19 = 102.42105263157894736842105263158 (2/3 of the 2 totals of 153.89...)



If Abraham was born in 2166 B.C. and Jesus was born in 4 B.C., then Jesus was born 2162 years after Abraham, and Matthew gives a list of 42 names from Abraham to David, from David to the Babylonian Captivity, and from the Babylonian captivity to Christ. 14 generations in each subset (14 x 3 = 42)



So, you divide 2162 by 42 = 51.47619047619047619047619047619 (1/3 of the 2 totals of 153.89...)

(add the two totals together = 153.89724310776942355889724310777 which brings to mind the 153 fishes in John 21:11)



19 generations + 42 generations = 61 generations from Adam to Jesus
4112 divided by 61 = 67.409836065573770491803278688525 (average age of begats in 61 generations)



If these calculations are correct, then 2166 + 1946 = 4112 years to 1 A.D.

4112 + 2007 = 6119



Abraham lived 175 years. 1946 + 175 = 2121 years from Adam (1991 B.C.)

Jesus was crucified at 33 years. 2162 + 1946 + 33 = 4141 (29 A.D.)

a difference of 2020 years (Jesus gives sight to the blind? cool.gif )



There were 41 years from Christ's crucifixion and resurrection to the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. 41 + 33 = 74 (Calvin made a thread about number 74)



1967 (6 day war temporary capture by Israel of Jerusalem) + 41 = 2008, or 6120 years from Adam. 6120 divided by 40 = 153



I'm not trying to set any dates here, these are just my observances which seem to be pretty compelling. There seems to be an order to these numbers in many ways that defies skepticism.



(sorry if I gave anybody a headache with these long numbers biggrin.gif )



P.S. 6000 years (6th day) plus 120 years (average age of longevity appointed to man after Noah's flood)

mmddll
Shekel's study here gives the date of the birth of Abraham as 2166 B.C.



Google search on 'Abraham+born+2166+B.C.'

bonomike
QUOTE(duncdrewnoah @ Feb 5 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]100916[/snapback]

i wanted to get some feedback on this:

I have been study what yr we are in for over a yr now...(based on the theory that there will be 6000 yrs of man, then the millinuem)

i am counting jewish yrs at 360 days each...

i have come to this: abraham born in 2008 (after creation)
called at age 75=2090 yrs after creation
430 yrs later is the exodus and law is given to moses=2520 (notice that is 7x360) not by chance I dont think
480 yrs later, solomon starts the temple=yr 3000 after creation-again i dont think that is by chance
36 more yrs of solomon as king then about 394 of other kings until Jerusalem falls and the temple is destroyed..you can get any number of yrs here counting the kings depending on which website you visit, but i got this from studing the scriptures and it brings us to the yr 3430
70yrs later the temple is rebuilt=3500 (again, notice the timing, exactly mid way in 7000 yrs)
i believe jesus was born in a jubilee yr (thats my theory)...but if we look at daniel-the 70 yrs of captivity went from 3430 til 3500, the 70 weeks pro[hecy would have Jesus being born at 3950 (a jubilee yr from creation) and his death in 3983....if he died around passover of our 31 ad (i know you can debate 30-33 ad among a few other dates) 2007-31 ad =1976 yrs x 365.242 days divided by 360 days for jewish yrs =about 5989.....I stick with 31 ad because 14000 days from passover 31 is th 9th of av when the temple was destroyed in 70ad....now that 5988/5989 is a close quess not exact cause our dates are so messed up but another interesting thing here is if it took 2000 jewish yrs from Jesus birth in 4 or 3 BC (depening on if you count a yr zero) you get our 1967. So my theory is that Jesus was born in a jubilee yr, 2000 yrs later in another jubilee, Jerusalem is returned to Israel...that would put us about 5990....this could mean nothing but this also fits 1948+70...(israel becoming a nation, this generation will not pass)...

thoughts???



Did you account for the leap month added every seventh year? This would affectively keep the sun in the same spot of the sky every equinox, solstice, etc., not including the extra 1/4 day every year.




duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(bonomike @ Feb 6 2007, 07:16 AM) [snapback]100992[/snapback]

QUOTE(duncdrewnoah @ Feb 5 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]100916[/snapback]

i wanted to get some feedback on this:

I have been study what yr we are in for over a yr now...(based on the theory that there will be 6000 yrs of man, then the millinuem)

i am counting jewish yrs at 360 days each...

i have come to this: abraham born in 2008 (after creation)
called at age 75=2090 yrs after creation
430 yrs later is the exodus and law is given to moses=2520 (notice that is 7x360) not by chance I dont think
480 yrs later, solomon starts the temple=yr 3000 after creation-again i dont think that is by chance
36 more yrs of solomon as king then about 394 of other kings until Jerusalem falls and the temple is destroyed..you can get any number of yrs here counting the kings depending on which website you visit, but i got this from studing the scriptures and it brings us to the yr 3430
70yrs later the temple is rebuilt=3500 (again, notice the timing, exactly mid way in 7000 yrs)
i believe jesus was born in a jubilee yr (thats my theory)...but if we look at daniel-the 70 yrs of captivity went from 3430 til 3500, the 70 weeks pro[hecy would have Jesus being born at 3950 (a jubilee yr from creation) and his death in 3983....if he died around passover of our 31 ad (i know you can debate 30-33 ad among a few other dates) 2007-31 ad =1976 yrs x 365.242 days divided by 360 days for jewish yrs =about 5989.....I stick with 31 ad because 14000 days from passover 31 is th 9th of av when the temple was destroyed in 70ad....now that 5988/5989 is a close quess not exact cause our dates are so messed up but another interesting thing here is if it took 2000 jewish yrs from Jesus birth in 4 or 3 BC (depening on if you count a yr zero) you get our 1967. So my theory is that Jesus was born in a jubilee yr, 2000 yrs later in another jubilee, Jerusalem is returned to Israel...that would put us about 5990....this could mean nothing but this also fits 1948+70...(israel becoming a nation, this generation will not pass)...

thoughts???



Did you account for the leap month added every seventh year? This would affectively keep the sun in the same spot of the sky every equinox, solstice, etc., not including the extra 1/4 day every year.


I am not trying to set dates...I just want to know how many yrs has passed since creation. My theory is that 6000 yrs will be the start of the millineum reign of Christ. A simple and quick sum of yrs:abraham born 2008 after adam (based on genesis and acts)
covenant with abraham sometime between his 75th and 85th bday (based on genesis)..i propose it to be when he was 82. (7 yrs after he was called) genesis reads like he was called at 75, went to egypt and then left, covenant was made and the next chapter, he is 84/85 and having Ishmeal.

this 82 yrs old does a couple of things besides us the 7 yrs since called thing;1-allows the law to given in the yr 2520 (based on acts-430 yrs from the covenant to the law given to moses). 2- that allows for the building of the temple in the yr 3000 (story of solomon says 480 yrs after exodus, temple construction began). We can add up the rest of the kings after solomon and get 3430 total yrs past creation. Add 70 from the time the temple was burned to end of captivity and you are at 3500 (mid point of the 7000 is not by chance i dont think). That in turn allows Jesus to be born in 3950 (daniel says he will be cut off 483 yrs later after the decree to rebuild. minus 33 yrs and you get his birth in a true jubilee yr of 3950. If our calendars are close to being right (and I know they are not perfect ) Jesus was born in our yr -4/-3. 360 days x 2000=june 6, 1967-the recapture of Jerusalem by Israel. So that means our 1967 was Gods 5950. So we are now in Gods yr 5990. 5991 starts and Rosh-yom kippur this yr. This could be off by a little of course and I do not claim to know the exact date but my point is this: IF the 6000/7000 yr (a day to a thousand yrs) theory is correct, we are still under 6000 yrs but close to it. Our calendars are off and wrong. That plus we dont know the exact age of Abraham when the covenant was made, makes it impossible to know the day or hour that it is. But we know the season is close. Very close.

Ill add this-if you believe the Bible, and I know most on this board do, the jewish modern day calendar is WRONG...simple 2nd grade math while reading the old testament tells us that they are way off.
senteami3
Cool!
bonomike
"I am not trying to set dates..."

Did someone mention date setting?

Get a load of this: http://www.americaslastdays.com/?page=tribsept08

Just FYI.

In Christ,

Mike
C
I just listened to a teaching on this today:

Ezekiel 46
1Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

2And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening.


For six days (6000 years) the door has been shut. The Prince (Jesus) is about to enter through the door on the Sabbath (7th day, which is about to start or has started) He will also "rise on the morning of the third day" which is also now, as we are on the brink of the 3rd millenium from His resurrection.
We are the priesthood (ye are a royal priesthood) and we are called to sacrifice "living sacrifices " (our fleshly lives) unto God who loves the aroma of burning flesh (the fire is provided by the fiery trials in our lives) Jesus is about to come in His body, to manifest Himself again on this earth.
bonomike
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Feb 6 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]101048[/snapback]

I just listened to a teaching on this today:

Ezekiel 46
1Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

2And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening.


For six days (6000 years) the door has been shut. The Prince (Jesus) is about to enter through the door on the Sabbath (7th day, which is about to start or has started) He will also "rise on the morning of the third day" which is also now, as we are on the brink of the 3rd millenium from His resurrection.
We are the priesthood (ye are a royal priesthood) and we are called to sacrifice "living sacrifices " (our fleshly lives) unto God who loves the aroma of burning flesh (the fire is provided by the fiery trials in our lives) Jesus is about to come in His body, to manifest Himself again on this earth.


New moon - at night, when things are the darkest, then he'll come bursting through.

Maranatha! Come, Lord Jesus!

Joyfully in Him,

Mike
jason benoit
The bible clearly states what must happen before the 7th Day.

- Peter must be crucified in his old age
- the temple must be destroyed
- the nation of Israel must be destroyed and the few left scattered around the world
- the gospel must be preached to all the world
- the Jews must be gathered back to their land
- the nation of Israel must be born again in one day (May 1948) Fig tree- blossoms
- Israel must get control of Jerusalem back (1967)

Also accoring to 2 thes. 2
- There must be the great "falling away" from the truth of God.
- The anti-christ must be "Revealed" (Not come into power, but only revealed)

Then Jesus Will come to gather his sheep in the rapture then there will be the seven years of Tribulation and then finally Jesus will return to set up his 1000 year kingdom!!

Jesus Cannot come back until the Falling away of the nations and the anti-christ is revealed!! so when will this be?Is it now or in the future?
C
We are living in the "morning" of the seventh day and the morning of the third day after Jesus walked the earth.
Its a simple calculation. God speaks of a 1000 years as being a day and a day being a thousand years. So He decided to place us into a "week" We have just finished the "Friday" or sixth day and we are now at the morning of the Sabbath or seventh day.

Read in Genesis that God finished His work on the seventh day .

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
So we are now a little into that seventh day and God is just about to finish building the body of Christ on this planet.He is about to rest.

We are also commanded to rest on the Sabbath (this Sabbath is spiritual and is Jesus Christ. Resting is believing God and all His promises) But this one is even bigger as it is also in reality the 7th "day" or Sabbath. All men are commanded to rest, if they do not, they will receive the anger of the Lord. This "rest" (believing God and His Word) none of the world is doing, even some "Christians " are also not resting. They are believing the doctrines of man and not the Word. So, now the curse is about to come on the world.
Katrina was a foretaste and a warning.The tsunami was the same.

Christians are commanded to come out of them. We are separate. We believe the Word and only the Word as the Word was from the beginning, was with God , and was God. That Word came down and lived amongst us.That Word is suppose to be IN us as we no longer live , but Christ now lives in us by faith. We are suppose to be replaced by the Word of God (Jesus is the Word)

So , those who believe the Word, rest in its truth, because they are IN CHRIST. We rest, we are in the Sabbath.We are not under the curse when we do that.
Tribulation (wilderness experience) is about to sweep this planet and like the angel of death flew over Egypt, it will kill those who does not have the blood of the Lamb on their hearts.
Those who hide in Christ, will be save.
Psalm 91
Very simple and true. God is going to cleans His body of the unrighteous that claim His Name, but does not walk in His Word
You cannot use the Name of the Lord in vain.

Many say they are Christians , but are only doing it for the power and the gain.That is what the world also sees in the "church" today and they are correct.

So get ready.God is about to rise and His enemies will be scattered.Do not wait for a rapture, because you are the army of the Lord .He is going to fight the anti-christ spirit with His church.
Are you ready?Is the Word in your heart and on your lips?
Time is almost gone.
love C
duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(bonomike @ Feb 6 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]101045[/snapback]

"I am not trying to set dates..."

Did someone mention date setting?

Get a load of this: http://www.americaslastdays.com/?page=tribsept08

Just FYI.

In Christ,

Mike


Some one mentioned date setting but did not accuse me of it. I just wanted to be clear-I dont know the hor or the day but I believe in the 7000 yr theory and I believe it is more than just chance that using the yrs i mentioned, you get the exodus and the law 2520 yrs after creation, the temple being built in 3000 ac, Jesus coming in a true Jubilee yr of 3950...

I think God did not tell us Abrahams age at the covenant because if we knew that, you could know exactly what yr we are in...All we know is he was older than 75, younger than 85 and closer to the 85 than 75.

I dont know bout all that on the web site you linked, but a lot of my stuff i have come across has pointed at a 2008-2015 trib period....I think 2011 is more likely but only by about 51-49%......either way, tis very close!
jason benoit
I don't believe that we are in the beginning of the seventh day yet. I believe the fifth day started after Jesus died meaning that we are at the end of the sixth day and almost in the seventh.

I believe that the Last day is the 1000 years that jesus will reign on earth. 1000 years of Peace or "Rest" which is the 7th and Sabbath day of rest.

We cannot be in the 7th day yet.
duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(jason benoit @ Feb 7 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]101150[/snapback]

I don't believe that we are in the beginning of the seventh day yet. I believe the fifth day started after Jesus died meaning that we are at the end of the sixth day and almost in the seventh.

I believe that the Last day is the 1000 years that jesus will reign on earth. 1000 years of Peace or "Rest" which is the 7th and Sabbath day of rest.

We cannot be in the 7th day yet.


i agree that we cannot be in the 7th (if the 7000 yr theory is true). the 6th day would end on the last day of 5999 after creation. Yom kippur of 6000 would be day 1 of the yr of rest or the millinuim reign.

creation to end of 999=day1 ends
1st day of 1000 til last day of1999=2
1st of 2000 to last of 2999=3
1st of 3000 to last of 3999=4
1st of 4000 til end of 4999= day 5 ends and the 6th day starts
1st of 5000 til end of 5999=the sixth day
the sixthday ends on the last day of 5999 and Yom Kippur of 6000 is the second coming of Christ and 1000 yr reign starts...

thats the theory anyway
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