I don't normally link out to my articles like this, but it's a Word document and I want to preserve the Hebrew characters:

http://j.b5z.net/i/u/2100097/i/1_Kings_7.doc

Whoa!

That is absolutely amazing. The psalms are classified into 5 categories as the five books of Moses. Number 4 is the "book of numbers" psalms from 90-106

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=9457&st=0

Wow that is just amazing! I am not the kind of gal that needs for things to be proven. I guess I just have that simple child like faith. Yet with that said the Lord has started revealing things of this nature in these last days! Everytime I stumble on to something like this it just make me do a Whoo Hoo! Yes this is my God! His ways are so complex and His Wisdom is so far beyond what we can even fathom! To me this is just the icing on the cake. Just goes to prove that we serve a Mighty God!



Thanks for sharing this Scott, I found this very interesting!

Your Friend in Christ,

Val



Messiahiscoming

The next time my kid sister is told in school that it was the muslims that came up with Pi and other 'higher maths' she'll know better. It's obvious to me that the Lord gave this wisdom to the Hebrews over a thousand years earlier. The Word is Truth, always. Thank you.

In Christ, Angela

Okay you guys, wrap your noodle around this one

I mentioned the "numbers" Psalms because of the number 106, but what I just realized is that "PI" is the 16th letter of the Greek alphabet. 106 minus 90 = 16

(I am sure there are many more hidden inticacies in all of this)

The numbers book (and of the Psalms chapters) is the 4th book. There are 360 degrees in a circle, and 90 degrees is 1/4 of 360. 16/4 = 4

There 44 remaining chapters in Psalms: 4x4=16

(43 remaining after Psalm 107)

The backwards nuns were discussed which had to do with the "sea" and here we are talking about the measurement of the molten sea, see?

1Kings 7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

6 backwards nuns appear in these verses, and one in verse 40 (10+30=40)
(the other 2 are in Numbers 10 verses 35-36)


Psalm 107:23-28
23They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.
28Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.

23+24+25+26+27+28 = 153 which is the number of fishes caught in John 21:11 (111/106 x 3 = PI)

It makes me very sad to see how quickly Christians accept the accusations of error in our KJV Bible. The Bible is inerrant and not just in the original languages but in our English language as well.1 King 7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. 24 And under the brim of it round about there were knops compassing it, ten in a cubit, compassing the sea round about: the knops were cast in two rows, when it was cast. 25 It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward. 26 And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.

The problem here is that there are two things being measured here.
1. The brim is being measured.
2. The bowl is being measured.

The brim is a handwidth thick which is about 11cm and 10 cubits in diameter which is about 457 centimetres.
A cubit is about 45.7 centimetres.
The bowl is 30 cubits in circumference which is 30 * 45.7 / 3.141 = 436 cms diameter.
So if we subtract the diameter of the brims 11 cms on each side from the diameter of the brim we get the following calculation
457 - 11 - 11 = 435 cms

Close enough considering we are not exactly sure what a handwidth is or a cubit is.

Here is a picture to help understand the brim in relation to the bowl.
http://www.biblepicturegallery.com/Picture...20oxen%20la.htm

The only potential fault I find with this logic is the thickness of the brass. In verse 26 is it saying that the bowl is 11 cms thick of solid brass; or is it saying that the brim is 11 cms thick? Even if the brass of the bowl is 11 cms thick (which seems likely to strengthen the bowl adequately to contain 18000 gallons of water) does not preclude the possibility of the brim extending by 11 cms from the outer circumference of the bowl.

It is erroneus to insist that the molten sea had to be a perfect cylinder without any lip in the brim. In fact the description denies this by saying that the brim was shaped like a cup. I feel disappointed that Christians would prefer to say that the Bible is in error or that the artisans who built the temple could not measure correctly or they were sloppily rounding off; rather than conceding that they themselves do not absolutely understand what is being described.

Knowing the value of pi is unnecessary to make a circular object with a certain diameter. If you make a circular object which has a 10 cubit diameter then the circumference is going to be 31.41 cubits whether you know anything about pi or not. I have no doubt that the brim of the molten sea is ten cubits in radius and 31.41 cubits in circumference and that the bowl beneath the brim is 30 cubits in circumference just as it says.

I have no doubt that when we are possessing all knowledge in the life to come we will know for sure that the measurements of the molten sea are absolutely exact as described in the Bible.

It saddens me that respected teachers make themselves look wise by parading their expertise in Hebrew at the expense of the English Bible.
Chuck Misler has actually claimed that the Hebrew scholars have made a spelling mistake. You're joking Mr. Misler. The jewish scribes were utterly pedantic in the extreme in their diligence with the scripture. Not only has he accused the jewish scholars of error, he has claimed that the error has been perpetuated into our English language Bible. He is very wrong.

I see it time and time again. Beware anybody who says to you. "Oh well this is a translation error. What it should say is .............." You can be sure that they are about to introduce you to doctrinal error and lead you astray. They do this to make themselves look good, or to advance their pet belief. A new snazzy understanding that our fathers did not know. Beware them.