THOSE WAITING ON 2 FEBRUARY PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS

Remnant believers, and those familiar with Condoleezza Rice and the stormy ending of her six city tour last week, as she pushed the Presidents ‘vision’ of a Palestinian state in God’s land and the coming scheduled February 2, 2007 meeting in Washington DC with Russia, the EU and the UN negoiators on how they can hurry up and push the 'vision’ of a ‘Roadmap to Peace’ in!

Can we expect a terrorist attack, ‘super storm’ or maybe an earthquake on or near that day? Can anyone say, the “odds are astronomical”!

This essay will give details as to where we are in the prophetic timeline and why the ‘vision of 2300 days’ in Daniel 8:13-14 IS and will lead to the “Abomination that causes desolation”.

If you feel this ‘vision of 2300 days’ is true, then I pray that it has been written ‘plain enough’ so you can take your marching orders from Habakkuk and “RUN WITH IT”! Telling all and warning all that the ‘days are short and the time is fleeting.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, WRITE THE VISION, and make it plain upon tables, that HE MAY RUN THAT READS IT. 3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.

Deception has been the fuel that has been poured on the prophetic voices of today as they continue to cling to traditions formulated in the seventies, it is not too late TO REPENT and take another look as February 2nd draws near.

God expected his people in the 30 AD era to understand that Yeshua was coming, because His Torah, the prophets and writings of the day proclaimed it. He also expects us to understand the times and signs of his ‘second coming’, II Timothy 2:15, and NOT TO RELY on the ‘traditions of men” whose pet theories are NOW PROVING that they DO NOT LINE UP with scripture.

Daniels “seventieth week” is a Sabbatical week THAT HAS ALREADY BEGUN, starting exactly seven days after 911 on September 18, 2001. It is a ‘covenant with many’; in that the ‘Quartet’ of Roadmap negotiators, represents the EU, UN, Russia and the US.

It is also referred to in Isaiah 28:15-19, the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ rule over the leaders in Jerusalem and promise them protection from the “overflowing scourge”, of President Bush’s ‘vision’ of death and hell. It’s going to be sheer terror to understand this agreement and the devastation still to be meted out on the sender and recipient nations before this ‘vision’ ends on October 9, 2008!

In Luke 19:42, Yeshua wept over the city because they had missed the “time of their visitation”! I pray this essay will bring wisdom and understanding, look at it prayerfully and carefully, thank you

Giving Him ALL the glory, honor and praise, look up our ‘Redemption’ is drawing near we don’t want miss the time of his visitation because He is our “blessed hope”.

IF YOU HEAR I SHALL PROSPER YOU UNTO THE SEVENTH YEAR

THIS IS NEW TO SOME OF YOU CLICK ON THE LINKS AFTER YOU READ THIS THE FIRST TIME, FOR VERIFICATION, IF AFTER SEARCHING THE SCRIPTURES YOU FEEL LEAD, RUN WITH IT, THIS WILL BE HEAVY TO SOME, SO READ THOUROUGHLY.

George Bush ‘seventh’ year began at noon, on January 20, 2007;

This is from a prophecy that was sent to the moderator of this forum on January 12, 2001, the complete prophecy is in the link below!

In the prophecy God set two paths for President Bush to follow, what makes this prophecy so urgent is the fact that President Bush DID NOT ANNOUNCE his ‘vision’ of dividing God’s land with the “Roadmap to Peace” until June 24, 2002 A FULL EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATER!

Quoting from the prophecy:

“If you hear me, and take these things to heart and consider my Holy name, then I shall prosper you and all of America UNTO THE SEVENTH YEAR of your reign”.

I SET BEFORE YOU TWO PATHS:

1.) Touch not the legacy of the Clinton.

Do not spare him nor come against him, for during the days of his Presidency he did not give heed to my council even when I spared him while in office. So now Judgment is set against him and his confederates and there shall be no escape. This sign is set for you that you should know that my eye is upon the gates of Washington and upon the comings and goings of those who rule the land.

2.) Nor will I SPARE ANY NATION that comes against Israel or forces upon them the yoke of captivity that they should DIVIDE THE LAND and my Holy Mount.

You are descendant of Kings and I have set you over the Land of America that you should rule it. Test Me! See if by my Spirit I will not establish these words. Increase to Israel and I will increase America. DIVIDE ISRAEL AND I SHALL DIVIDE AMERICA.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Watchmen-Pro...message/264?l=1

FACTUAL DATES OR COINCIDENTAL OCCURENCES:

A.) President Bush announced his ‘vision’ to divide Israel with a Palestinian state at a Whitehouse ceremony on June 24, 2002; little did he know that Yom Kippur October 9, 2008 was 2300 DAYS away. Does it fulfill the ‘vision of 2300 days’ in Daniel 8:13-14?

B.) From that day, June 24, 2002, to January 4, 2006, is 1290 DAYS, on that day Ariel Sharon, the recipient of the ‘Roadmap to Peace, had a massive stroke that has left him in a comatose state. Does that fulfill the 1290 day prophecy in Daniel 12:11?

C.) On February 3, 2005 President Bush gave his state of the union address, telling how the United States WILL HELP THE PALESTINIANS "end terror and build the institutions of a peaceful, independent democratic state." To promote those goals he would ask Congress for $350 MILLION to support Palestinian political, economic and SECURITY REFORMS.

THE TREACHEROUS DEALER DEALT TREACHEROUSLY

This money aided in the Gaza settlement disengagements (Gush Katiff) on 8-15-2005, after relocation a strategic advantage for the Palestinians was secured, this money also funded the war effort against Israel on 7-12-2006.

Also behind the radar is another Daniel 12 appointed time, it is exactly 1335 DAYS from February 3, 2005 until Rosh Hashanah September 30, 2008, the Feasts of Trumpets, A DAY that most scholars believe Yeshua returns on. Does this fulfill the 1335 day prophecy in Daniel 12:12?

THE BEAT GOES ON

Condi Rice is pushing a Palestinian state; http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_st...,243699,00.html "I will soon meet with (Israeli Prime Minister Ehud) Olmert and President Abbas to have discussions on the broad issues of that horizon, so we can work on the road map and try to accelerate the road map to move to a Palestinian state," she told reporters in Luxor. Note, this meeting date has not been announced as yet, it probably will take place within 21 days after the DC quartet meeting?

However the ‘Quartet’, the UN, Russia, EU negotiators and the US represented by the architect, President Bush and herself are meeting in DC on February 2, 2007, she had a choice to choose dates and chose February 2, 2007.

WHY FEBRUARY 2, 2007 A HEIGHTENED TIME OF AWARENESS

The “Conspirators of Psalm 2” worship their numbers and esoteric writings as they follow a ‘mythological script’ to the TEE! February 2nd to many Americans is known as "Groundhog Day", to the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’, it has an esoteric or ‘veiled meaning’ of an underground creature, one day coming into the light and from out of darkness.

It is also the 33rd day of the year, this number is very important to the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ as their Masonic branch delegated the number 33 as their highest degree! The intersection of the 33rd longitude and latitude degrees on earth is near Mount Hermon and the city of Sidon. It was in this area where the "sons of God" came down and settled in Noah's day. The soon coming “fifth” and ‘sixth” trumpets give the details of this reenactment!

Therefore it is not without significance to watch this day because it most likely has been already scripted in and large scale events have taken place on this day. The ‘conspirators’ play out their script, not knowing or believing that “God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His will”! These ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’, even believe that the earth's kings and leaders can defeat God and His son as they conspire together, against the Lord God and his anointed son Yeshua crying, "Let's break their chords! Let's throw off their chains!" (Psalm 2:3)

Yes believe it, THE CRUX OF THIS 'VISION OF 2300 DAYS' of Daniel 8:13-14 is to demoralize the region and the world and to prepare themselves for the “Battle of Armageddon”. It is the abomination that causes devastation, as they continue to push it, the devastations will indeed come.

God will allow it to come to pass, and Yeshua told us TO UNDERSTAND in Matthew 24:15, EVEN (bracketing the text)!

The ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2” who are all high adepts in Satanism and witchcraft have 8 primary holidays, with human sacrifices being carried out during the nights of these occult festivals. As a personal study, do a Google search on Imbloc or Candlemas

The primary holidays are:

(1) Candlemas or Imbloc – February 2 - major Is a holiday of purification, through the renewing power of the Sun. It is also a festival of light and of fertility, once marked in Europe with huge blazes, torches and fire in every form. Imbolc is also known as Feast of Torches, some female witches still follow the old Scandinavian custom of wearing crowns of lit candles during their invocations.

The fact that fire is so prevalent in this festival, makes one wonder if ‘terrorism’ is the vehicle that will be used on or around ‘candlemas day’? Revelation 17:16-17 says that God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His will and “eat her flesh and burn her with fire”.

(2) Ostara - March 21 (Spring Equinox) - minor (3) Beltane or Roodmas - May 1) - major (founding day for the Illuminati in 1776, who are today’s ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ main branch) (4) Litha - June 21 (Summer solstice) - minor (5) Lughnasadh or Lammas - August 1 - major (6) Mabon - September 21 (Autumnal equinox) - minor (7) Samhain or Halloween - October 29-31 - major (8) Yule - December 21 (Winter solstice) - minor

FACTS TO PONDER

1.) The announcement of President Bush’s official ‘vision’ was postponed twice on June 18 and 19 then rescheduled to June 24, 2002, was this so the ‘last day’ of the 2300 day vision would fall on Yom Kippur October 9, 2008?

Daniel 8:13 “How long THE VISION, concerning that which is continual (Ariel Sharon’s agreement to vision) and the transgression that lays waste (Roadmap to Peace), to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?” And he said unto me 2300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Why would the land of Israel be cleansed 2300 days from June 24, 2002? IT’S ‘YOM KIPPUR’. AND YESHUA IS THE ONLY ONE who can cleanse the Holy land and city and Temple mount.

Click on link to hear or read this 'historic event'.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20020624-3.html

THE ‘PROPHETIC’ PRESS RELEASE

2.) Ariel Sharon ‘set up’ the disengagement plan, agreeing to President Bush’s VISION had a massive stroke on January 4, 2006; the significance of the day is that it is exactly 1290 days from June 24, 2002, is it fulfilling the prophecy of Daniel 12:11?

Ariel Sharon was at the Whitehouse the day this 'Press release' announced his acceptance of the “abomination that lays waste”.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20040414-3.html The words “June 24, 2002 vision” are stated THREE TIMES while the word 'vision' is used twice in the release, by the President anchoring the FULL DATE (3) times is very significant!

In the ‘press release’ linked above, President Bush said, “Thank you for your letter SETTING OUT your disengagement plan”. This plan was carried out in Gush Katif with the ‘expulsion of Israelis’ from their settlements in Gaza during the week of Aug 15-22, 2005 that lead to Hurricane Katrina forming the next day August 23, 2007 to bring mass retribution ON OUR COUNTRY!. Opening up Gaza to the Palestinians has done nothing but strengthened Hezbollah and Hamas.

Daniel 12:11 “And from the time, that which is CONTINUAL is taken away, and the abomination that lays waste is SET UP, is one thousand two hundred and ninety days.”

THE WORD ‘CONTINUAL’

3.) Has been removed from many translations! Ariel Sharon has continually lived in Israel and is STILL in a comatose state, he was born February 27, 1928 in an agricultural village in the Sharon region of central Israel established in 1916, as Ein Khai ("living fountain").

Hebraic meaning;

Strong's Number: 08548 tamiyd (taw-meed') noun masculine; definition continuity, perpetuity, to stretch continually, continuously (as adverb)
From an unused root meaning to stretch; properly, continuance (as indefinite extension); but used only (attributively as adjective) constant (or adverbially, constantly); ellipt. The regular (daily) sacrifice or alway(-s), continual (employment, -ly), daily, ((n-))ever(-more), perpetual.

Click link for book of Daniel usages: http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew...amp;version=kjv

PARAPHRASING THE TEXT

Ariel Sharon is a parallel ‘type’ to the word tamiyd

From the time the CONTINUAL was taken away to the time the abomination that lays waste was SET UP was 1290 days.

Ariel Sharon LASTED until JANUARY 4, 2006, which was 1290 days AFTER SETTING UP his “abomination that lays waste”, (he agreed to the plan) given to him by President Bush as a ‘vision’ to a Roadmap for Peace’ on June 24, 2002.

“And from the time, that which is CONTINUAL is taken away, (the “living fountain” Ariel Sharon) and the abomination that lays waste is SET UP, (Roadmap’s disengagement plan) is one thousand two hundred and ninety days.”

One more fact on Ariel Sharon, from the day of his stroke on January 4, 2006 to Rosh Hashanah, September 30, 2008, is exactly 1000 days?

A PALESTINIAN FLAG RAISED AND JERUSALEM DIVIDED

Matthew 24:15 When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, (Palestinian flag) spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (Jerusalem) (whoso reads, let him understand)

4.) THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, the vision of a Roadmap to Peace, is the abomination THAT HAS CAUSED devastation, since June 24, 2002.

THE BAD DEVASTATING FRUIT:

1.) The numerous storms, terrorist events and etc, including Katrina, that appear whenever the principals of the ‘Roadmap to Peace’ whether it be the architect, President Bush or his mouthpiece, Condoleezza Rice or when the “Quartet” negoiatiators assemble to discuss dividing God’s land with a Palestinian state.

2.) The “bad fruit” caused by the Gaza and West Bank settlement disengagements that opened Gaza into becoming a terrorist stronghold of Hamas and Hezbollah

3.) Ariel Sharon’s stroke, now in its 13th month

4.) The 33 day war plus

5.) The untold suicide bombings and missile launches

These human casualties along with all the property and structural damage caused by this ‘vision’ so far are beyond the realm of comprehension!

The soon coming Palestinian state in God’s holy city and His holy land will bring double devastation (Revelation 18:6) on the United States. If the ‘recipient’ Ariel Sharon has been lying in a coma for almost a year, then the ‘architect and sender’ George Bush (the proud one) will not come out unscathed (Jeremiah 50:31-32) because he rejected God’s instructions in the above Puyol prophecy

CONSEQUENCES OF DIVIDING GOD’S LAND

The prophet Jeremiah has these words to say about the USA, from Jeremiah 50:22-24,

Jeremiah 50:22 A sound of battle is in the land, and of great destruction. 23 How is the hammer of the whole earth CUT ASUNDER AND BROKEN! How is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! 24 I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O Babylon, and thou WAS NOT AWARE: thou art found, and also caught, because thou has striven against the LORD.

Could it be that the architect “will not be aware” because he, George Bush, will not see “his vision” of a Palestinian state announced? That God will allow our enemies to burn us with fire? (Rev 17:16-17)

THE ‘SEVENTH’ YEAR A YEAR OF ‘STORMY’ JUDGMENT

His “seventh year” began on January 20, 2007; just after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice returned from her six country tour, promoting the ‘vision’ of a Roadmap to peace that will ‘divide’ God Land with a Palestinian state, while doing so Europe and the United States were racked with devastating storms and this will be a ‘year of storms’.

Here’s an excerpt from the above linked prophecy.

“Divide Israel and I SHALL DIVIDE AMERICA. If you hear me, and take these things to heart and consider my Holy name, then I shall prosper you and all of America unto the seventh year of your reign.”


America will be divided and the world will wonder how! The political, economic and military restrainer of the world is about to take a hit, possibly seven metropolitan areas simultaneously, for dividing His land and striving against His word.

HOW CLOSE ARE WE

IF the “sixth trumpet” encompasses 397 days, and the storms continue to escalate as each ‘Roadmap’ meeting is plotted out, these will lead up to the first “four trumpets” being blown sometime during the last half of March 2007, because the 150 days of the ‘fifth trumpet” will already bring us back to April 3,2007, Passover?

These dates are derived from counting back from Rosh Hashanah, September 29/30, 2008. I find it interesting that January 20, 2007 fell 120 days after Rosh Hashanah; it was the first day of the eleventh month on the Jewish calendar. In Deuteronomy 1:3, Moses spoke to Israel on this day in their 40th year, just before they entered the Promised Land.

A TIME, TIMES AND A DIVIDING OF TIME

From June 24, 2002 to and including October 9, 2008 is 2300 days, it is this day that divides time, the 6000 years of this age END on Yom Kippur, the ‘year of jubilee’ and the 1000 year millennial reign of Yeshua BEGIN!

So what is “the time, times and dividing of time” of Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 12:14? The time is the five months of the “fifth trumpet”, the times are “ an hour, a day, a month and a year” of the “sixth trumpet” that end up dividing time on October 9, 2008.

ARE YOU READY

Psalm 91:11-16 says that God’s angels will deliver us in their hands to a place of refuge, while in Ezekiel 20:33-38 it says while “fury is being poured out” the remnant will be taken to the wilderness! Could that day be repeated this year at Passover? Because “great destruction” and the sound of battle will come to the United States before the Isaiah 17 and Psalm 83 regional war comes to Israel. That is when the remnant is taken to a place of refuge in the wilderness?

Are your lamps full of oil, have you repented so that you can be taken to the wilderness or become a ‘crowned martyr’ in the ‘seventh year’?


Giving Him the glory, an Ezekiel 33:6 watching on REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand make your election SURE

Hey Gavrial I just read your post a little while ago and find this all very interesting. I have to tell you that I will certainly be seeking the Lord conerning all of this. Much prayer, study and calculations will be on the agenda in the coming days. Thank you for sharing this information with us.

I do have a question for you. 1st of all do you think that Daniel 12:11 and 9:27 are the same event? Do you think that both of these scriptures are referring to the Abomination that takes place?

Ok now I know that in Daniel 12:11 you are referring to Sharon fulfilling this prophecy 1290 after the June 24, 2002 date (Road Map to Peace) You also mention that the word continual is taken from most translations. So are you saying that this has nothing to do with Sacrifices being taken away?

And if this is the case I do see where you are arriving at this in verse 12:11 because of the word sacrifice not being in the original Hebrew but not in Daniel 9:27.

In 9:27 the reference to sacrifice is however in the Hebrew.

Pronunciation Guidezebach {zeh'-bakh}
TWOT ReferenceRoot WordTWOT - 525afrom 02076Part of Speechn mOutline of Biblical Usage

1) sacrifice

a) sacrifices of righteousness

sacrifices of strife

c) sacrifices to dead things

d) the covenant sacrifice

e) the passover f) annual sacrifice g) thank offering



So that is why I am wondering if you think these are the same event? If they are then I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that Sharon fulfilled this prophecy? Do you see where I am coming from? As I am not aware of any sacrifice or oblations that ceased at the time of His stroke. Anyway I would like to here your comments on this, and hear your views concerning the sacrifice and oblations to cease in Daniel 9:27. And also if you feel these 2 scriptures are referring to the same event?

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

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Val said, So that is why I am wondering if you think these are the same event? If they are then I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that Sharon fulfilled this prophecy? Do you see where I am coming from? As I am not aware of any sacrifice or oblations that ceased at the time of His stroke
Anyway I would like to here your comments on this, and hear your views concerning the sacrifice and oblations to cease in Daniel 9:27. And also if you feel these 2 scriptures are referring to the same event?

Hi Val,

I DO NOT BELIEVE the 2 scriptures refer to the same event, I believe the Daniel 9:24-27 text was fulfilled at the ‘stoning’ of Stephen.

Remember the veil in the temple was rent AS TO BE A REMEMBRANCE that Yeshua was the ‘sacrifice’ but Israel continued to make ‘sacrifices’ even after his resurrection!

Therefore the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, He made it desolate because the “overspreading” of these ‘sacrifices’ continued, THEY BECAME ABOMINATIONS.

The Isaiah 28 prophecy gives the details of the ‘Roadmap to Peace vision’. Here it is given its true name “a covenant with death and hell”.

Remember AFTER the soon coming ‘economic crash’ the fourth seal will be pulled. Notice the names that are given the rider and his false prophet in Revelation 6:8?

Details of a coming storm, and I am not sure if its the one coming around February 2nd or when Condi Rice meets with Olmert and Abbas to push the ‘vision’ at a session whose date and venue have not yet been set?

It could even come when the ‘sixth seal’ is pulled sometime in late March.

This Isaiah 28:2 text gives the details, the “crown of pride” referenced in 28:1, it is referring to what sits on our Capitol dome, the crown/wreath being held by Athena in her left hand, TO CROWN THEIR SOON COMING ANTICHRIST WITH. click link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Freedom

The ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ have done their homework, here’s the Isaiah 28:2 storm text;

Isaiah 28:2 Behold, the Lord hath A MIGHTY AND STRONG ONE, which as a tempest of hail and a DESTROYING STORM, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.

Do we now understand that the ‘vision of 2300 days’ IS THIS COVENANT. Daniel’ 70th week was and is a ‘deception of satan’ taking our eyes off “a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth” (Isaiah 28:22)

Have you heard from the Lord of hosts? Do not become a mocker, MAKE YOUR BANDS STRONG AND RUN WITH IT! Thank you Val

Giving Him the glory, gavrial

Dates, events, and consequences?

October 30, 1991
President George H. W. Bush is opening the Madrid (Spain) Conference to consider “land for peace” in Israel’s Middle East role.
The “perfect storm” develops in the North Atlantic, creating the largest waves ever recorded in that region. The storm travels 1000 miles from “east to west” instead of the normal “west to east” pattern and crashes into the New England Coast. Thirty-five foot waves crash into the shoreline of the Kennebunkport home of President Bush.

August 23, 1992
The Madrid Conference moves to Washington DC and the peace talks resume.
Hurricane Andrew, the worst natural disaster ever to hit America, comes ashore and produces an estimated $30 billion in damage and leaving 180,000 homeless in Florida.

January 16, 1994
President Bill Clinton meets with Syria's President Hafez el-Assad in Geneva. They talk about a peace agreement with Israel that includes giving up the Golan Heights.
Within 24 hours, a powerful 6.9 earthquake rocks Southern California, This quake, centered in Northridge, becomes the second most destructive natural disaster to hit the United States, behind Hurricane Andrew.

January 21, 1998
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with President Clinton at the White House and is coldly received. Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright refuse to have lunch with him.
Shortly afterwards on that day, the Monica Lewinsky scandal breaks into the mass media and begins to occupy a major portion of Clinton's time.

September 28, 1998
Secretary of State Albright works on the final details of an agreement in which Israel would give up 13 percent of Yesha (Judah and Samaria). Clinton also meets with Yasser Arafat and Netanyahu at the White House to finalize this land deal. Later, Arafat addresses the United Nations about declaring an independent Palestinian state by May 1999.
Hurricane George slams into the United States Gulf Coast with 110 mph winds and gusts up to 175 mph. The hurricane hits the coast and stalled. The hurricane George pounds the Gulf Coast, causing $1 billion in damage as Arafat addresses the U.N. At the exact time that Arafat departs the country, the storm begins to dissipate.

October 15-22, 1998
On October 15, 1998, Arafat and Netanyahu meet at the Wye River Plantation in Maryland. The talks are scheduled to last five days with the focus on Israel giving up 13 percent of Yesha. The talks are extended and conclude on October 23.
On October 17, awesome rains and tornadoes hit southern Texas. The San Antonio area is deluged with rain. The rain and flooding in Texas continue until October 22 and then subside. The floods ravage 25 percent of Texas and leave over one billion dollars in damage. On October 21, Clinton declares this section of Texas a major disaster area.

November 30, 1998
Arafat comes to Washington again to meet with President Clinton to raise money for a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. A total of 42 other nations were represented in Washington. All the nations agreed to give Arafat $3 billion in aid. Clinton promised $400 million, and the European nations $1.7 billion.
On the same day, the Dow Jones average drops 216 points, and on December 1, the European Market had its third worst day in history. Hundreds of billions of market capitalization were wiped out in the U.S. and Europe.

December 12, 1998
Clinton lands in the Palestinian-controlled section of Israel to discuss the “land for peace” process.
The House of Representatives votes four articles of impeachment against Clinton.

May 3, 1999
Yasser Arafat is scheduled to declare a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. The declaration is postponed to December 1999 at the request of President Clinton, whose letter to Arafat encourages him in his "aspirations for his own land." He also writes that the Palestinians have a right to "determine their own future on their own land" and that they deserve to "live free, today, tomorrow and forever."
The most powerful tornado storm system ever to hit the United States sweeps across Oklahoma and Kansas. The winds are clocked at 316 mph the fastest wind speed ever recorded.

Week of October 11, 1999
Jewish settlers in West Bank (Israel) settlements are evicted from the covenant land in Israel.
The Dow-Jones financial averages lose 5.7 percent in the worst week since October 1989. On October 15 the Dow lost 266 points, and a hurricane slams into North Carolina. On the next morning, October 16, a magnitude 7.1 earthquake rocks the southwest in the fifth most powerful earthquake in 20th Century. The earthquake was centered in the California desert and did little damage but was felt in three states.

August 22, 2005
The last of the Jewish settlers in Gaza are moved out.
One day later, Katrina forms, later devastating New Orleans in record time. Incidentally, 40 days later (Muslim period of mourning), a massive earthquake strikes Pakistan and Northern India--the heart of Muslim extremism and where those that laughed at the U.S. through Katrina live. The ratio of Americans displaced by Katrina to Israelis displaced was 10,000 to 1.

September 12, 2005
The last of the Jewish military leaves Gaza, and the Palestinians begin occupying Gaza, along with burning of Jewish homes and synagogues.
One day later, Rita forms and later makes landfall in Louisiana/Texas

Hurricane Season 2006
No notable moves against Israel by U.S.
Hurricane Season 2006 is virtually non-existent.

January 18, 2007
Condoleezza Rice meets with German Chancellor Andrea Merkel to update them on the status of dividing Israeli land for peace.
Hurricane-force winds and heavy downpours hammered northern Europe, the storms were among the fiercest to batter northern Europe in years as winds of up to 133 mph swept off the Atlantic and cut a swathe across Britain, northern France, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Poland, Belgium, the Czech Republic and into Russia. Rice cuts short visit to Berlin in order to leave before winds worsened as more than 200 flights in and out of Frankfurt airport were cancelled because of the winds a German meteorologists recorded gusts up to 125 mph. Some notable quotes: Hans-Georg Zimmermann, spokesman for Deutsche Bahn: "We are still at a standstill nationwide, with only a few trains running." Hartmut Mehdorn, chief executive of Deutsche Bahn: "We have never yet had such a situation in Germany"

January 18, 2007 (continued)
Rice travels to London for a meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
1.) Rice’s plane landed in gusts of up to 80 mph at London's Heathrow Airport, Europe's largest, canceled 280 flights. Other major airports, including Frankfurt, Munich, Amsterdam and Vienna - reported delays and cancellations. 2.) In London, harried commuters struggled through a gauntlet of road closures caused by falling debris blown from glass-paneled office buildings and medieval churches. 3.) London's Millennium Bridge was closed after the suspension structure began swaying dangerously in the wind. 4.) Rail stations across London also were closed, and the evening commute melted into chaos. Other countries were affected by the hurricane force winds that ripped up trees and power lines as hundreds of thousands of homes had power cut. 1.) The Druzhba pipeline carrying Russian oil to the European Union via Ukraine was shut off after high winds caused power problems and forced the closure of a pumping station.

2.) More than one million people were without power in the Czech Republic. Some 100,000 homes in northern France, 20,000 households in Austria and more than 30,000 households across northeast England lost electricity -- nearly all because falling trees downed power lines. 3.) Ferries canceled or delayed in Britain, Ireland, France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Finland, and trains delayed in the Netherlands, Germany and Austria.

3.) And in America, the Midwest was pounded by snow. Also, there was cold and snow in southern California, resulting in a nearly total loss ($1B) of this season's citrus harvest. All total, if I recall, almost 60 people have died as a result of the extreme winter weather across the country this week. All this took place while Rice was talking Israeli-Palestinian peace.

February 2, 2007
Condoleezza Rice invites the "Quartet" to Washington to discuss Middle East peace.

We'll see.

The first ten can be verified here: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/t/tenmajorevents.htm

The remainder I added by observation on my own, except for the high winds in Europe, which were reported elsewhere on the forum.

May we bless Israel. May God have mercy upon us. (I need not mention the innocent blood that continues to be shed on our land--abortion - 45 million and counting, plus rampant immorality, lawlessness, and godlessness.)

In Christ,

Mike

I'm sorry,

I just don't understand. If you're pre-trib, then Christ's return is imminent. If not, then you should be looking at the prophecies that need to be fulfilled before his return.

A peace treaty with Isreal.

Specifically, the daily sacrifice must be stopped. Which means that there must at least be a tabernacle and a sacrifice.

I don't believe comparing dates of current events can be used to setup a timeline for Christ's return. Even if the peace treaty is signed, I think Jesus could return any time in the second half of the 7 year treaty.

There's nothing to be sorry about.

Prophetic scripture is definitely within the scope of discussion between believers in Jesus. We can study them with the teaching of the Holy Spirit and discuss while maintaining a brotherly love in Christ.

The Jews may build a temple and reestablish sacrifice, if God lets them. The veil of the temple was torn in two as Christ was crucified, and the temple itself demolished in 70 A.D. If the Jews construct another temple, my supposition is that it would be against God's will...like I said, "if God lets them."

It certainly wouldn't be a construction effort that God would condone, for Christ was the final sacrifice, and his temple is now in the hearts of men. Want a desecrated temple? Remove Christ from his proper throne in the hearts of those in an apostate church and replace him with an image made in the likeness of men. Tell them their wrong and they'll turn on the true church like rabid dogs.

As far as watching current events, these times are not so much different from Jesus' day, when he said in Matthew 16:3, "And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?" Jesus expected the leaders in that day to know his coming, but they missed it completely.

It is simply interesting to see men make moves to uproot Israel from the land God promised them and see the consequences that seem to be following. At least it beats watching TV.

May the Lord be glorified in this hour. May his mercy and grace be poured out upon his church.

In Christ,

Mike

[quote name='vepr' date='Jan 27 2007, 12:44 AM' post='99984']

Vepr said, “I'm sorry, I just don't understand. If you're pre-trib, then Christ's return is imminent. If not, then you should be looking at the prophecies that need to be fulfilled before his return.”

I am not pre-trib, What if this meeting on February 2, 2007, between the negotiators of the ‘Roadmap to Peace’ and the architect President Bush/Condi Rice fulfills Revelation 18:1-10 or Jeremiah 50:18, 22-23?

Remember to the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ this day is called the “Festival of Candles”. God says in Revelation 17:16-17 that He has put it into their hearts to “fulfill His will and eat her flesh and BURN HER WITH FIRE.”

We on this site have received many informative postings on numerics/gematria, lest we forget, and unless the count on the “six trumpet” is less than 397 days and it could be, the “fifth trumpet” will blow on Passover April 2/3, 2007.

On my calculator THAT IS BUT 65 DAYS FROM NOW, and that’s the “fifth trumpet” already, so February 2, 2007 very well could be a fulfillment of these prophecies. (Rev 18-Jer 50)

There will be another meeting, yet unannounced in the next 2 weeks or so that could fulfill Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17, before any country attempts to do anything in Israel, they will make sure the “Hammer of the whole earth will be torn asunder and broken”!

If America doesn't take a hit on February 2nd that next meeting in the Middle-east could speak volumes?

They are fulfilling God's will, we can only be in prayer and obeidient to his word, He knows his sheep!!

I would read the above posts again, the VISION OF 2300 DAYS IS TRUE, RUN WITH IT, tell your lost friends and neighbors to REPENT and come back to their first love, Yeshua and his Father the set-apart one of Israel!

Vepr said, “A peace treaty with Israel,” had to be fulfilled.

The Isaiah 28 covenant with Death and Hell, I believe is the ‘vision of 2300 days’ that ends on October 9, 2008.

Vepr said, “Specifically, the daily sacrifice must be stopped.” The daily/continual will be stopped, when the antichrist pulls the plug on the ‘vision of 2300 days’ recipient, Ariel Sharon’s, life support system and places a Palestinian State flag on the temple mount and western wall areas!

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall TAKE AWAY the daily sacrifice, and they shall PLACE THE ABOMINATION that makes desolate.

Vepr said, “Which means that there must at least be a tabernacle and a sacrifice.”

That is what I believe Yeshua cleanses on Yom Kippur October 9, 2008, read the last eight chapters of Ezekiel for a clear understanding of this millennial temple.

Vepr said, “I don't believe comparing dates of current events can be used to setup a timeline for Christ's return. Even if the peace treaty is signed, I think Jesus could return any time in the second half of the 7 year treaty.”

The last ‘sabbatical week’ began on September 18, 2001, the ‘vision of 2300 days’ began on June 24, 2002 and is called the “covenant of Death and Hell” in Isaiah 28:15.

Thank you for the quesions, May the Lord richly bless you, Gavrial,

Giving Him the glory an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one

Christ could call his church home at any given moment.. We are to be ready each and everyday.. knowing that christ knows his day of his coming.. We can't really set a date and time we do know it is the season.. but only God really knows the day his coming back.. set dates will get us no where.. be ready and watching always is are job as a christian..

Your February 2 date reminded me of this (posted on 1/07/07)

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...ost&p=98066


I came up with a date of February 21 just messing around with the number 43, which is 135 days before Bush's 61st birthday. Bush's name in English (a=1, b=2, c=3, etc.) comes to 177

He will be 60 years and 230 days old on 2/21/07


177 x 3 = 531

531 + 135 = 666

If you read the genealogies in Genesis, there is a segment between verses 13-17 in chapter 11 (begins with the Tower of Babel account) where the numbers 403 (2x), 34, and 430 are mentioned, up to Peleg (meaning "divided" see Genesis 10:25)

If you add the ages of "begats" from Arphaxad to Eber (where the name "Hebrew" comes from) they total 129 years (1290 days times 36.525)

35+30+34+30


If you add the combined ages from Arphaxad to Peleg (son of Eber), it comes to 1335 years (average age of 4 people is 445 years)

George Bush turned 43 years old at 726669.25 days (7/06/89) from 1 a.d. 4450 days later the WTC was attacked (9/11/01)

726669.25 has a "hidden" 666 in it...72 x 9.25 = 666

445 years is 4450 x 36.525



Add all of the numbers in verses 12-18 = 1335

Add only the begats in verses 12-18 = 129

(this appears to reflect Daniels prophecy in many ways)

The combined ages (lifespan) from Shem to Abraham is 3171 years (backwards 13 and 17)
13 x 17 = 221 (2/21/07?)


The verses with 4 and 3 in them are 13 + 15 + 16 + 17 = 61
(61 is the number of generations from Adam to Jesus)

Abraham was born 1946 years from Adam. George Bush was born in 1946.

There is clearly a reason why the number 43 appears before Peleg (division)

P.S. I just realized that the WTC had 7 buildings, 3 of which fell (4 left standing) and then there is the strange case of all the "11's" on that day.

Shekel said that the World Trade Disaster was a Sign (or was used as a Sign) from God. See his codes articles.

And other people have said that said Disaster was a Sign.

And other people have said that , perhaps, the govt did it, judging by the way the buildings collapsed.

And etc etc etc

My point is:
Perhaps , there were Super-natural aspects of the Disaster , which Shekel (and no-one else) have known about.

Only the Lord Jesus knows exactly what He did on that Disaster.

yes this would have little to do with the abomination of desolation .

I read your link in detail and it is more nonsense.
The abomination that causes desolation is set up after the Lords two prophets take away Gods daily sacrifice to man.
The whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water which makes the evil ones of the earth resort to eating each others flesh and drinking each others blood.
Those who live by faith will be able to make the water and oil and flour last 42 months and the faithful stewards will be bringing manna down from heaven and water out of the face of the rock to feed and water the the Lord's sheep.
The original text says "for where the carcass is there the eagles will be gathered together". This means that they will be killing people for food and drink since an eagle kills their food and does not eat already dead things.

Actually, the eagle has no problem scavenging a dead carcass.

Here's a good article on the subject: http://baldeagleinfo.com/eagle/eagle3.html

In Christ,

Mike

yes interesting article...

Well, it's kinda interesting what you are saying but I'm not sure where you come up with all your numbers..For example, where do you come up with that Jubilee yr...It's clear that the year of Jubilee is related to the 1967 6 day war when the Mt of Olives was recaptured....

That puts Christ Return in 2016 around Rosh Hashana if you account for the extra 5 days per yr in the Gregorian Calendar versus the Hebrew Calendar or 50 x 5 or 250 days

Thus you have six day war plus 50 yrs. That would be: 06/10/1967 + 50 yrs or 06/10/2017. Then you take out the Gregorian cyle of extra days or 50 yrs x 5=250 days. This recalibrates the Gregorian calendar to the jewish way of counting yrs and it is near the start of the jewish new yr 2016, Rosh Hashan. Would not God want to start a new age of 1000 yrs on a New Yr?


You can't use a modern calendar to calculate a Biblical Event because they are not accurate...surely yrs have been added or deleted over time...but you can look at modern day events like the 6 day war and use that as a basis because we know that they (calendars) have not been materially altered since that time.

Obviously, based upon Scriptures, we would assume the age of grace is approximately 2000 yrs long..thus 2016 in reality must be 2033 more or less...indeed most scholars say they think the evidence points to Jesus being born @ 4 BCE which is a guess but does show how the Gregorian calendar is not accurate as a basis to determine times....

Scriptures tell us thatsatan will change laws and times so as to confuse the elect...surely it wouldn't have been to hard in the dark ages to change a year or two with all the uneducated and with controlling the RCC and all in order to obsure the erfection of God's plan. So I suppose it depends which calendar you look at..God's calendar or man's calendar?

Patmos