The Temple of Understanding, "A Global Interfaith Organization" at the United Nations, is a "non-governmental organization in consultative status with the United Nations Economic and Social Council" (UNESC).The Temple's web site states that it was "founded in 1960 by Juliet Hollister, a housewife who had a peanut butter sandwich lunch with a friend and shared her vision of a world in which the many religious traditions of today would come together in dialogue rather than conflict. Her idea, though simple, was so powerful that humanitarian Dr. Albert Schweitzer in the Congo and former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt soon became her advocates." Its mission - "to promote understanding among the world's religions, to recognize the oneness of the human family and to achieve 'A Spiritual United Nations'" - has since gained wide support amongst religous leaders including Pope John XXIII and the Dalai Lama and other prominent representatives of the Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim and other faiths.[2]

According to the Temple's website, it has recently concentrated on participating in briefings, meetings and conferences at the United Nations and "interfaith education." It is a member of the broad-based Committee of Religious NGOs at the United Nations. [3]

The Temple's work - such as in promoting greater religious community support for the protection of the environment - has been attacked by conservative organisations such as the Environmental Conservation Organization, a "property rights group" from the US that rails against "excessive environmental regulations." [4] Other conservative groups, such as the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute complained about the promotion of the Earth Charter at a conference organized by the Temple of Understanding. [5] Some conspiracy theorists, who oppose the United Nations for being a part of what they claim is a campaign for "one world government," have also criticised the Temple of Understanding because of its close ties to the UN.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...f_Understanding

You can view the PDF file here: http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/Bushrui.pdf

Here is a link to their officail website:
http://www.templeofunderstanding.org/newSi...vedPrograms.php

Other articles below:

Helping Create a 'Spiritual United Nations' - Brief Article
UN Chronicle, Spring, 2000 by Benjamin Weil

Although the small sun-filled penthouse, reached through a well-hidden set of stairs from above the 15th floor of a modest but chic building on Fifth Avenue in New York City; has its own special aura, it is not a Zen palace as one might imagine. The offices of the Temple of Understanding, the oldest global interfaith organization in the United States, may be a far cry from the grand building envisioned by its founder, but the global interfaith movement, which includes spiritual traditions as diverse as Jainism, Christianity and Native American, continues to promote dialogue and understanding among all the religions of the world.

The Temple of Understanding was the brainchild of Juliet Hollister, an American housewife who, while eating a peanut-butter sandwich with a friend one day, happened to wonder what the world would be like if the many different religions began conversing instead of feuding. Ms. Hollister began to form a vision of an organization that would promote understanding among the world's religions, recognize the oneness of the human family and achieve a "spiritual United Nations". Through prayer and determination, she attracted such prominent supporters as Eleanor Roosevelt, Albert Schweitzer, Jawaharlal Nehru, Pope John XXIII, Anwar el-Sadat and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant. In 1960, the Temple of Understanding came into being.

The Temple knows it still has a long way to go in realizing that vision of an American housewife, but it continues to sustain her hope which informs its mission and work. Sister Joan Kirby, the current Executive Director of the Temple of Understanding, believes that the organization evolved essentially as a mobilizing force, with only a small staff and no actual "temple", for a reason: its longevity is due in part to the fact that it is not a centralized entity, as spirituality cannot be institutionalized or localized. In fact, since 1968, the Temple has sponsored six "Spiritual Summit" conferences, producing a worldwide network of spiritual leaders, all devoted to the principles of the interfaith movement, whose modem character can be most easily traced back to the first World's Parliament of Religions, held in Chicago, United States, in 1893. It has progressed from the creation of a model of interfaith cooperation to generating understanding and a sense of unity among religious traditions, which nonetheles s retained their individual belief systems and autonomy.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._37/ai_64830803



http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/Bushrui.pdf

A temple will be erected in Washington, D. C., for "the citizen of the world" to develop "universal understanding" in place of his "national limitations."

Planners for this $5 million edifice, called "The Temple of Understanding," say endorsers include Swami Prabhavananda of the Vedanda Society, Hollywood; Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Socialist leader Norman Thomas, Chester Bowles, special advisor to the President; Swami Bhaskaranand Paramhamsa of "UNISM," New Delhi, India; Thomas B. Watson, president of International Business Machines; Eleanor Roosevelt, the United Lodge of Theosophists, New York City, and others.

The futuristic building, characterized as a "spiritual UN" will be a "symbol of the brotherhood and sisterhood of mankind," according to the brochure issued from Temple headquarters, Greenwich, Conn. A wing of this modern-day Tower of Babel will be accorded to each of the six international faiths: Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Christianity and Islam.

AMONG OTHER endorsers listed are Jack Benny, Douglas MacArthur II, ambassador to Japan; Max Lerner of the New York Post, Prof. J. B. Rhine of Duke University; Roland Gammon of the Laymen's Movement and World Parliament of Religions; Miguel Ydigoras Fuentes, president of Guatemala; Sir Roy Welensky, prime minister, Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland; Rev. Fred Jordan, president, International Spiritualists, Norfolk, Va.; Philip S. Linnik, director Universal Brotherhood Center, Glen Cove, Long Island, N. Y.; James A. Linen, president Time-Life Inc., and S. A. Mohamed, cultural attache of the United Arab Republic, Washington, D. C.

A "world publicity campaign" for donations is being launched. The names of the donors are to be enscribed on the stone walks of the temple.

THE SYMBOLISM planned for the building dates back to the black magic practised by the high priests of ancient Egypt. The building will contain a giant eye -- a circular pool of water which reflects light beamed onto it by a dome faceted to resemble a many-colored diamond. The Temple brochure states:

“The dome will be illuminated all night in order to indicate, symbolically, that even while the world sleeps, the light of understanding continues to shine.”

WHILE TEMPLE publicists proclaim the idea for the temple arose quite spontaneously out of a talk between two woman friends, shrines for "the brotherhood of man" have been systematically used throughout history to create a mystique of collectivity.

Money was raised to build a similar shrine in London by the occultist, the late Mrs. Annie Besant. A sort of Eleanor Roosevelt of her day, Mrs. Besant worked closely with [Jawaharlal] Nehru and Krishna Menon and was a founder of the Fabian Parliamentary League, a British socialist group in which Sidney Webb, Hubert Land, H. H. Champion and Bernard Shaw were active.

MRS. BESANT'S temple featured six symbolic presentations of the six great international faiths in the lecture hall. Visiting "adepts" contemplated a mural of a six-pointed Theosophical star made of two interlocking triangles connected by a serpent.

This theme is repeated in the "Temple of Understanding." The brochure informs us that the temple's six wings "will contain the cultural facets of the 'diamond of truth.'"

IN NEW YORK the "Friends of the Meditation Room" have long met regularly in the United Nations' Meditation Room. In the center of this shrine a beam of light plays of polished ore. On April 24, 1957, when the Meditation Room was reopened, the late Dag Hammarskjold, UN Secretary General, described this pagan stone as an altar to universal religion.

"The altar is the symbol of the God of all," he said.

The Temple of Understanding also will have its meditation room, to be known as the "Hall of Illumination." There, it is planned that the Illuminati, Masters of Wisdom, Our Leaders of the Temple of Understanding, will train the public in the new humanistic cult.

Meetings, film showings and courses of study in the world's great religions will be held in the "Hall of Illumination."

IT IS INTERESTING to note that for some time now a group who call themselves "the New Group of World Servers" have been holding "full moon meditation meetings" at the Carnegie Endowment International Centre in New York. On Dec. 21, 1961, this writer attended one of these meetings where pamphlets were distributed describing "the New World Religion." One " World Goodwill" booklet described what some of the backers of "The Temple of Understanding" may have in mind.

“A new type of mystic is coming to be recognized . . . he distinguished by his lack of interest in his own brand of religious beliefs.”

WHERE THE internationalist would-be elite gather to plan and plot world government I heard a determined group of "World Servers" led by Foster Bailey chant in unison their eerie Great Invocation.

“Let purpose guide the little wills of men—
“The purpose which the Masters know and serve.”

Is the real purpose of the world-minded Masters of Unism to guide and control us by pagan rites?


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The Temple of Understanding
- Edith Kermit Roosevelt, The New Hampshire Sunday Times News, October 21, 1962 (© Edith Kermit Roosevelt Syndicate)
Unwrapping her gauzy veils a "White Madonna" danced on the podium. She symbolized "Christianity" or the "Mother of the World encompassing forms of the creative feminine spirit which has unfolded over the centuries from Egypt, Babylonia, China and Europe," said a program distribute at the Temple of Understanding's benefit dinner.

The dinner, held Oct. 12 at the Waldorf Astoria, featured this dramatic skit on "Christianity" and five other skits on the major faiths to commemorative $5,000,000 Temple to be built on 50 acres by the Potomac River, Washington, D. C.

The Temple brochure describes the edifice as a "Spiritual United Nations" designed to fulfill the rituals of the six major faiths and replace "nationalist limitations" with "universal understanding" for "citizens of the world!"

PUBLICISTS for this tax-exempt "Project Understanding" claim support from the "pennies donated by hairdressers, taxicab drivers and workers all over the world." But judging from the Temple's printed list of sponsors it can count on more influential backing. For instance:

John D. Rockefeller IV, Socialist leader Norman Thomas, Rt. Rev. James A. Pike of San Francisco, Cary Grant, Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara, a founding member of the Fund for the Republic's Center for Democratic Institutions; militant pacifist and Nobel Peace Prize and Nobel Peace Prize winner Philip Noel Baker; Holland D. Roberts of the Academic Freedom Committee, a former head of the Communist party's California Labor School who was identified as a "party member" at a Jan. 22, 1956 hearing of the Subversive Activities Control Board; U. Alexis Johnson, depute undersecretary of state for political affairs; Sen. Kenneth B. Keating (R-N.Y.), Prof. Pitirim A. Sorokin, director of Harvard University's Research Center for Creative Altruism and Brooks Hays, special assistant to President Kennedy.

AT THE WALDORF'S Starlight Roof I heard Mrs. Dickerman Hollister, president of the Temple of Understanding (P. O. Box 191, Greenwich, Conn.), address some 500 UN delegates and socialites. In a voice choked with fervor, she said:

“We are sending an idea to create a global symbol of the world.”

Then she struck with a wand an egg held aloft by a child. Out popped a "magic" golden tree with six branches on either side.

THE SYMBOLISM is not surprising in view of the mystic appeal of the internationalist dream. For example, one of the Temple sponsors is Roland Gammond, former director of the Laymen's Movement, World Parliament of Religions. This international, non-sectarian group of big businessmen, psychiatrists and other professional men meet in the seclusion of Wainwright House, Milton Point, Rye, N. Y., to study scientific mind control.

I secured the texts of some of the Wainwright House seminars which treat of such topics as "clairvoyance," "automatic writing," "hallucinations," "religion as part of an enlarged science" and "the psychic content of the alchemical symbols."

According to this year's Sept.-Oct. issue of the Laymen's Review published at Wainwright House, the Movement "spearheaded" the establishment of the UN Meditations Room which happens to contain some of those "alchemical symbols."

THE UN MEDITATION Room mural is divided into 72 separate sections—the tetragrammaton or Divine Name of 72 words. It depicts triangles and pyramids representing "the deity" in accordance with the ancient Babylonian symbols. Also a part of this mural is a spiral figure intertwined with a diagonal line which may represent Hermes' wand, the Cadeuces, traditional symbol of the sex forces or Kundalini.

The mural's center sphere and outer circle roughly form an eye. The "all seeing eye" of the deity theme is to be repeated in the Temple building by a glass eye faceted like a diamond to reflect the rays of the sun through the six wings.

IT IS INTERESTING to note that the Interparliamentary Union—Temple of Understanding sponsor Sen. Keating is IPU secretary—adopted a few weeks ago as its emblem: "A Temple of Law with six columns for the six continents to show the Universality of the Union." The IPU, which has been financed in part by the tax-exempt Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, consists of a training corps of legislators who meet regularly with their Communist "counterparts" to set up a world parliamentary government.

WHILE SOME PEOPLE may dismiss these humanistic temples as another example of "goofy" internationalism, apologists for Moscow view them as a serious component in their drive to promote the "Social Gospel."

TWO TEMPLE sponsors are included in the Senate Internal Security's "list of the most typical sponsors of front organizations" published April 23, 1956. They are:

Jerome Davis, New Haven, Conn., educator who heads Promoting Enduring Peace, a group whose literature whose literature is distributed by the Arcane School (operated by the tax-exempt "non-political" Lucis Trust on the 32nd and 33rd floors of 11 W. 42nd St., N. Y.) The international Lucis Trust network, which has substantial financial backing, regularly holds "Full Moon Meditation Meetings" at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace to promote UNESCO and the "New World Religion."
Prof. Kirtley Mather of the Geologic Museum, Cambridge, Mass., who has served on a four-man panel evaluating "physical research" at Wainwright House.
ANOTHER TEMPLE backer is Rev. Lee H. Ball, executive secretary of the Methodist Federation for Social Action, an organization cited as a front by the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee on April 23, 1956. On July 7, 1953, Ben Gitlow, former secretary of the Communist party, testified under oath that Ball was one of "the principle individuals involved in the Communist conspiracy to subvert the church for Communist purposes."

Shouldn't they add the hammer and sickle symbol to the second "Meditation Room" slated for the new Washington Temple?

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Washington_Cult.htm

Oh yes...The cult of the "great eye", masonry and all its symbols...The great harlot of AMERIKKKA!!!...Now after all these things...Who can deny our beloved nation's true history?...Come one patriotic supporters...What are you going to say now?...We must support our "leaders" yabadabadingdong...Yes love Amerikkka more than you love yourselves...beware if you love it more than you love God...Love it enough to ignore this truths...keep taking the blue pill if you will...just don't say you've not been warned! Glory and Love to the Great Lord of Israel, the father of Jesus, not Persefone who stands a top from the Capitol, or Columbia who supposely says: Come to me and I will give you shelter, so called "liberty". But well your accuser is not me (sounds familiar)...Is the Lord who accused the great babylon, the great whore, who sists in many waters (ring a bell, occupation, military bases everywhere?) and had been deceived and foster wickedness in the name of false religions. We can choose to ignore the truth, but we will never fool the Lord, only ourselves thru selfishness and arrogance. Amerikkka pushing the NWO, what's left for you to "see" and believe? Only Jesus is Lord and and his father King!!! Amen. Love to you all, even if we do not agree and God bless!!!

An by the way...Lucis trust used to be "Lucifer trust"...they were a publishing house under that name that used to distribute occultic material and books...Was founded by Alice LaTrobe Bailey who was a pupil of no other than Madame Helena Blavatsky the mother of theosophy...an occultic religion who said that Jesus was an ascended master and they state that we live in the age of aquarius...there were 12 masters...they are waiting for their Maytreya...Lucis Trust and World Goodwill Share from Benjamin Creme are one of the same...They are satanist who promote "peace" under another denomination...And now my friends, guess who's one of the biggest supporters of the UN? yes Lucis trust...in fact they are the moral foundation of the organization...which has a net with 32 segments and the olive branches as a symbol...hmm familiar; wonder why they picked the 32 and 33 floors. And inside info on masonry: they too believe Jesus was an Enlighjtened master, too many coincidences till you find out that Helena Blavatsky and her friends, which a lot of the were masons, were working for a hundred years to come up with a plan to control the world...starting with the moral foundations, destroying the religious, moral and family values...saying that parents should not educate their children, but society. I'm not making this up, I've beeen studying this for the last 5 years, believe me the info is out there. But well enough with silly conspiracies that have no foundation...or do they? God bless, amen.

2Chron., what are you railing on about? I see this article as being evidence of a GLOBAL false religion, yet it seems you use any platform possible to spew your hate filled retoric.

You used an article with such statements as;



which is obviously quite a bit bigger than America, and have attempted to connect it with your views. It just doesn't work. Like all nations, America will play a part in 'globalization', yet you continue to single her out as 'the great whore'. You are showing yourself to have a one-track mind, and sounding rather paranoid all the while. Since there is nothing in Revelation about the masons, they obviously play little to no role in the end. If you concentrate to much on one perceived danger, you'll never see the real one sneak up behind you. Look all the way around, it's the only way to be 'on guard'. You keep talking about 'the blue pill', perhaps it's because you've spent to much time in fantasy worlds?

America has problems, that's true, but America is not the problem. Look at the bigger picture, people who love America hate the idea of giving up her sovereignty to 'globalization', the U.N., or any other entity. It's the people who hate America who seek to take away that sovereignty. Radical islam seeks to convert the world at the edge of a blade, and you sit there griping about America, and the way things are going, that 'great whore' you scorn may be the only thing left to fend them off while us Christians try to reach those who are lost.

Love to you, too, even though we don't agree, and God bless you.

Your sister in Christ, Angela

AMEN (and burp!)


have been studying this too. It fits. America is playing a big part in the NWO... One day, as I was meditating on the Freemasons, God gave me two verses:

1) Once you were no people but now have become the people of God
Who did not deserve mercy but now have received mercy

(verse may not be accurate, but you get my point)

2) Come out of her, my people, do not partake of her abominations, lest you receive some of her plagues...

Freemasonry is not mentioned in the BIble, but [spiritual] Babylon is; I heard a Mason say his order dates as far back as the Tower of Babel... the great BUILDERS... BUILDERS, MASONS, white bonnet, bonnet white...

Some people of Godare still in spiritual Babylon (secret societies, cults, etc... all in one basket. Either you are for God, or you are against him...

AMEN (and burp!)

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[quote name='2 Chronicles 32:7' post='99357' date='Jan 18 2007, 05:26 PM']
An by the way...Lucis trust used to be "Lucifer trust"...they were a publishing house under that name that used to distribute occultic material and books...Was founded by Alice LaTrobe Bailey who was a pupil of no other than Madame Helena Blavatsky the mother of theosophy...an occultic religion who said that Jesus was an ascended master and they state that we live in the age of aquarius...there were 12 masters...they are waiting for their Maytreya...Lucis Trust and World Goodwill Share from Benjamin Creme are one of the same...They are satanist who promote "peace" under another denomination...And now my friends, guess who's one of the biggest supporters of the UN? yes Lucis trust...in fact they are the moral foundation of the organization...which has a net with 32 segments and the olive branches as a symbol...hmm familiar; wonder why they picked the 32 and 33 floors. And inside info on masonry: they too believe Jesus was an Enlighjtened master, too many coincidences till you find out that Helena Blavatsky and her friends, which a lot of the were masons, were working for a hundred years to come up with a plan to control the world...starting with the moral foundations, destroying the religious, moral and family values...saying that parents should not educate their children, but society. I'm not making this up, I've beeen studying this for the last 5 years, believe me the info is out there. But well enough with silly conspiracies that have no foundation...or do they? God bless, amen.
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AMEN (and burp!)
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have been studying this too. It fits. America is playing a big part in the NWO... One day, as I was meditating on the Freemasons, God gave me two verses:

1) Once you were no people but now have become the people of God
Who did not deserve mercy but now have received mercy

(verse may not be accurate, but you get my point)

2) Come out of her, my people, do not partake of her abominations, lest you receive some of her plagues...

Freemasonry is not mentioned in the BIble, but [spiritual] Babylon is; I heard a Mason say his order dates as far back as the Tower of Babel... the great BUILDERS... BUILDERS, MASONS, white bonnet, bonnet white...

Some people of Godare still in spiritual Babylon (secret societies, cults, etc... all in one basket. Either you are for God, or you are against him...
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Thank you Senteami, I do believe freemasonry plays a big role on this. I've had the opportunity of talking numerous times with a former freemason, which still believes Jesus was just a "master" the most important of all time. Still I've known this man for a long time since he's my best friends father. And he told me a lot of things about masonry and about it's begginings. Like for example: How masonry started even way before Egypt (a reason why our dollar has pyramid with the great seal and the eye on it is because they were the great builders of the pyramids), he even said Atlantis (like Manley P. Hall one of the best known masons in America) could have been freemasonry's place of birth. What's true without a doubt is that they engage themselves in cabalistic rituals full of imagery and symbolism. They believe in the occult and practice things like alchemy and mysticism. Round it up and you get occultism. But well they too believe that there will be a coming master, who will be the greatest of all. I appreciate your nice comments and your understanding.

Angela, I'm sorry if I upset you, and I'm sorry if I too disagree with you on this topic. I think the United States is going to push this agenda into a reality. Why is the UN based in New York? And the reason why I use the "blue pill" analogy is because I think is easier for some people to relate with. I do not even like science fiction and I do not even like the matrix movies. I try to base myself on facts, and facts tell me the States hassold itself hosting suchgroups, fostering wars and false religions, the killing of inocent people (babies and victims of wars), who became what it is through slavery. Is that enough for facts or should we ignore history? You can deny what ever you want, but not history or the law of God. What's the only country to ever used a nuclear bomb? That's a great humanistic thing to do, kill 1 of mine...I kill 10 of yours. Nevertheless I do believe that the States plays a prominent role, cause there is the ability to create a resistance against the NWO and that Christians here can really help save some. The outcome is already written, we will loose for a time, some of us will be saved (I hope with all my heart that we all in here do) and some will be left. And justice will be done until or King comes. Love to you all and God bless, Chronicles.

2 chronicles i agree with you completly and please don't pay attention to those ignorant people who think that america doesn't play a huge part in the world stage. Mostly every trend in the world comes from the US and briton, everyone knows that.

I can understand how people can disagree on topics in this forum but what i dont understand is how we can make eachother feel small because they don't agree with what we believe, especially when the topic is plainly backed up by facts!!

Thanks for this info 2 Chronicles and keep up the positive and perfectly healthy, factual opionions.

Oh, and also the "Temple of Understanding". Remember the "Tree of Knowledge" that Eve wasn't sapose to touch or even look at?

Understanding is just another word for Knowledge if you ask me. If you understand something it means you have gained the knowledge of the issue and now you know about it.

not to go off subject by why do you spell America with 3 "K's?"
When I think of 3 K's, I think of the Klu Klux Klan.
Are you tying the KKK with America?

Thank you for your thoughts Jason and C-los. Yes, I did it to hint to the kkk. I know that things have changed and that the kkk is no longer active as it used to be before. But mainly I did it to remind how this country profited from slavery and hatred (not only that but all the slaughter of native americans), and how not so long ago discrimination was alive, as it is today in so many ways. Against black, hispanic, illegal aliens (who invaded who? and what does our bible tells us in numerous times about how to treat aliens), middle eastern (Let's not forget that Jesus wasn't blond and blue eyed), and pretty much anything that isn't "American". And also if we go to our history books, the founder of the Great White Brotherhood (KKK) was one of the most prominent and famous Masons of all time, Albert Pike who didn't satisfied his anger with hatred towards colored people, but was also a satanist. And for anyone who does not believe this arguments which are facts, you can go to your public library and read from the books written by this 33 degree mason stating that masonry should make justice to its Luciferian doctrine...Now, I wonder...Why do we even have monuments and museums dedicated to this guy? And why all these bizarre things (and if you look into the history of washington DC) all take place in America? Now, I'm not saying it's only taking place here, but Jason mentioned something I've been thinking of for along time. I've come to believe that (and I hope I don't get hatred responses) America has become the greatest nation for 3 reasons with which it controls its people (of course I'm generalizing here).

First: An exagerated, over the top sense of Patriotism. We wear our flag even in our boxers, but goodness forids if somebody does not agree with our excess of American pride. Which can turn to ego instead of humility. We critize the french when we are even more egotistic. Almost to the point of saying that no one can stand up against us, because of our great might. I take name from this following scripture, please notice the diference: "Be strong and courageous, do not be afraid or discourage because of the king of asyria and the great army with him, for there is a greater power with us than with him, with him is only the arm of flesh, but with us is the Lord our God to help us and to fight our battles". So what does the Lord says to the proud nation that boasts on itself? "Even if you fly as high as eagles, from there I'll bring you down (paraphrasing)"

Second: Our leaders try to control us through religion. With this, I'm saying that they use God for everything. From fostering unfounded wars (surely God told us to use the A-bomb or bomb other countries), to their own political agenda. We see it everywhere: "In God We Trust"...Really? in which god? Not my beautiful Lord and his son Jesus, because I'm sure he would not like to see his name right next to the great seal and the great eye of Satan, or how they call him jahbulon (missusing the name of God with the first letters:Yah, and bulon from baal you surely remmeber him, who was also related to Osiris, hence the eye shining like the sun on top of the pyramid). So ask yourself in which god does our government believes in...Money has become a god itslef, what does our Father in Heaven tells us about using his name and graven images? Money itself with "god" written on it is a form of Idolatry. And why should we have the godess of columbia to grant us freedom? "Thou shalt not make for yourselves an idol in any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman"...Yes God, the only true God should be first in our lives, but not the way this wolves in sheep clothing do.

Third: Pop Culture. Well I don't like to call it like that, but mainly that seems to be a good word for it. Since everything that is popular or likeable in the States, everything that makes noise in here echoes in the world. From a godless way of life to satanism on tv, to the music we listen, to the politics with which we not only rule ourselves, but the world. Think about it, we are the babylon of pretty much every trend in the world. Which country influences everybody the most? Be it with our American Way of life, or with our power in the entertainment industry. With corporations that spread all over the world (that my friends is another way of occupation, much worse than what 20 million poor peasants could do to us), to our secret motto "our will be done"...still hesitant? Why when the whole world said no!!! we said "We don't care, we will go"....and went on a stage war while innocent people died along with our soldiers. Lets go on, and close our borders and live in a prison state, lets build our Berlin wall. Why do we have military bases almost everywhere around the world along with our ships? To be world police? I don't think so, nobody can bring justice to the world but the true God himself. The US is imposing its NWO and our former presidents along with our current "leader" have said so in their innagural speeches if you want to see it for yourself, ask me and I'll give you the links to the videos so you can see it with your own eyes. But this is the same reason why I believe this country has a lot of power to do good and really live for God, because if change happens here it will follow everywhere. But we will have to repent and change our ways, and of course our government.


So sadly all of this sums up to a big brainwash, and anyone who tries to stand against it is treated like a criminal, even called a terrorist. So that my friends is another way of ushering the NWO and big brother's hand in our life. What does the bible tells us about those who will resist? I think you all know. I just pray that the Lord grants you discernment so you can see things for what they really are. The signs are there, the facts too, you choose: Amerikkka or your LORD!!! Love intended to you all, and sincerly God bless you my brothers and sisters, Chronicles.

Thank you Jason for your nice comments and your help, God bless you too. GLORY TO THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

You may be right in everything you say. Hell, you can maybe cross all your "i's" and "t's" and have true facts that justify your position. But...ya know...it shouldn't matter. You are only pointing out the bad things but do you see an advantage that you have?

I am of Mexican decent and I will not get into what the U.S. did in the past because as a student of the Word...it does not matter. What matters is that I can practice what I believe. Did you know in many parts of China, Christianity has boundaries? You can talk about Jesus but you cannot talk about His resurrection. This is enforced by their governement.
You have the ability to speak and excercise freely about your beliefs.
Slavery and civil rights is sad but you have to understand that God allows all this to happen.
I know it's easy to blame man because we fail all the time but if we study the word....God allows this. Because God allows it then we must respect it. We may not have to like it but are we going to speak out on what we think is "fact" or should we do as the bible says and know that God is in control.

Here let me place some scripture to show support:
Romans 13:"1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.

The "authorites" is all of our governments. The U.S. government, the Iranian government, the Chinese government, etc. They are all in His plan. We may not like them but we know by faith the God allowed them to be in power. You have the free-will to go against God's Word and protest, rant, get upset, call-names about everyone in authority. Or you can take advantage of the freedom you have, go to the church that you love and pray for all of them. You have the ability to share thoughts and scripture around all those loved ones that surround you.

I may not like many things that go on but it does not matter what I like. What matters is what the Word says and I will stand by it because that comes first before anything. You will not hear me talk bad about anything God has established.

I hope that my point came across.

God bless

Yes I understand and agree with you, I'm not questioning God's authority, I will never do that for I love and fear God. What I'm doing is exposing the US for what it is, giving you some liberties for something in return. God himslef raised the babylonians, I understand and agree that the US is fullfilling part of God's plan, taking the role of a Babylon in my opinion. I'm too part mexican/spaniard and American on my mothers side. And how do I feel when I see things like these? I don't call myself American, but the Lords!!! Amen to you all and God bless.

(except islam, the biggest threat to Christianity ever)

Jason, I sincerely hope you weren't refering to me when you wrote this, though I think you were. Oh, well, you are forgiven, especially since you didn't get my jist. I have never said that I think that America doesn't play a role in the end times. (America and the masons are two different things.) Please read again if you think so. Scripturally, Europe plays a greater role than America does.

From what you wrote in the 'Signs' topic, I know you realize how much worse off some other areas are, and how much more of a role they play scripturally.

As far as so many otherwise very intelligent people buying into all this 'masons are going to birth the anti-christ' business, show me in scripture where this occurs. If all this masonic stuff is evil, which it probably is, it still lacks scriptural basis for staring at it so. Satan is the great deceiver, is he not? I think if anything, this masons stuff is nothing more than a diversion that he has thrown to us.

As for Babylon, saddam spent an incredible amount of money in rebuilding the REAL Babylon. It's there, not here. When scripture says Babylon, it means Babylon, no juxtaposition of it required.

As for me, I will continue to look toward scripture and the obvious fulfilling of it in things like this 'temple of understanding' (grosses me out to type it), rather than the connect-the-dots of non-scriptural occurances.

In Christ, Angela

America was certainly not the only one to have done horrible things, yet you continue to harp on her only.

A little history here;
Black slaves purchased from English and other European traders, originally purchased from conquering black tribes. (Kind of like blaming only the drug user, and laying no blame on the dealer, smuggler, or pusher.)

Slaughter of native americans? Most deaths were caused by their lack of immunity of European and African diseases, (numbers added into the 'slaughter'), albeit horrendous, yet accidental. It is approximated that there were 1.5 million people in America in 1776, not enough to have carried out this 'slaughter' of which you speak. I'm sure you don't believe me, so believe the Native Americans own statistics;

users.multipro.com/whitedove/encyclopedia/diseases.html

Discrimination against IL-legal imigrants? What part of 'illegal' do you not get? It's against the law, therefore they are engaging in criminal behavior. My ancestors imigrated legally, why can't they? No discrimination against legal imigrants, other than the fact that they now have a harder time getting citizenship due to the IL-legal actions of others.

What do you mean when you quip 'who invaded who'? That's meaningless in today's terms. The Hispanic we know today is a descendant of a survivor of one who was subjugated by the Spanish Conquistadors. They practically wiped out all indiginous peoples and certainly their languages. The Cherokee Nation is alive and full of pride here in the U.S., how are the Mayan doing in comparison?

Want to talk about racism? Ask the boys on the Duke Lacrosse team about racism. They are certainly victims of it. Racism in any form is horrible, and that includes the so-called 'reverse racism'. Why rail against only the KKK when the Black Panthers are just as horrible, (if not worse, as many are muslim trying to impose islam on people), yet they are growing today and receive a lot of T.V. time? We would be aghast if the KKK got as much coverage as these hoodlums.

Yes, for all her faults, I fiercely love America, yet I love my Lord more. If I defend my land to this extent, how much more would I defend my Lord? With all I have. Yes, I am a patriot. As I have explained before, the word 'patriot' comes from 'patrios', which means love of God, love of neighbor, and love of land. In that order.

We all know that we are blessed to be in this land, even with all her evils we can still go to church and praise Our Lord Jesus. We can still evangilize to the lost (we may have to get a permit in some areas), but at least we get to keep our freedom and our heads! How much would you complain about being a Christian in America if, instead, you were a Christian in Saudi Arabia? in China? in Somalia?

Count your blessings, and praise God for them.

In Christ, Angela

Gotta reply, just gotta
Yes the KKK is bad but what I am seeing NAACP is to me as bad as the KKK.
Yep, I love my country.
Kim

When I read in scripture names like Elam or Persia--- we know that today its talking about the same place as it would be today. We don't apply it as a code name to some other prominent country like Britian do we?

How about when I read about Arabia in the Bible? We have no probelm saying that it literally means Arabia and not a code name for say France for instance?

What about Sinam? If we look we know it means mostly China and not some other nation.

How about Tyre? Is it not Lebanon today pretty much...certainly not code for Germany is it?

What about Egypt? Is that code for Spain or does it mean Egypt when we read it in the plain text of the Bible?

How about Meschech? Pretty much Russia... not code for Mexico is it?

Ethiopia= Ethiopia and Somalia area yes?

Lybia= Lybia

Assyria= Syria region yes?

Greece= Greece

Yet, when we reach Babylon somehow we thinks its a code for America.

This is not to ignore that America plays no role--- perhaps a daughter of Tarshish? Some speculate Tarshish refers to Spain--- but other charts say India region.

Anyway Zecheriah 5 mentions the woman in the basket.

5Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth.

6And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

7And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.

8And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

9Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

10Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?

11And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

Notice the she moves throughout the whole earth? But her actual base will be literal Babylon.

Remember what is said in Jeremiah 25?

9Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the LORD, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations.

10Moreover I will take from them the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the sound of the millstones, and the light of the candle.

11And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

12And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.

13And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations.

14For many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of them also: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands.

15For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it.

16And they shall drink, and be moved, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them.

17Then took I the cup at the LORD's hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom the LORD had sent me:

18To wit, Jerusalem, and the cities of Judah, and the kings thereof, and the princes thereof, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, an hissing, and a curse; as it is this day;

19Pharaoh king of Egypt, and his servants, and his princes, and all his people;

20And all the mingled people, and all the kings of the land of Uz, and all the kings of the land of the Philistines, and Ashkelon, and Azzah, and Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod,

21Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon,

22And all the kings of Tyrus, and all the kings of Zidon, and the kings of the isles which are beyond the sea,

23Dedan, and Tema, and Buz, and all that are in the utmost corners,

24And all the kings of Arabia, and all the kings of the mingled people that dwell in the desert,

25And all the kings of Zimri, and all the kings of Elam, and all the kings of the Medes,

26And all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another, and all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth: and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.

27Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you.

28And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye shall certainly drink.

29For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.

30Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.

31A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.

32Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

33And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

34Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.

35And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.

36A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard: for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.

37And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.

38He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger.



Notice all nations will drink first--- the final one to drink is the King of Shechech(which is Babylon). For scripture says "And all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another, and all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth: and the king of Sheshach shall drink AFTER them."

America is just one of many that will drink.

What you say merits looking at, but let us not forget that when we are told of Babylon in the NT that it refers to "MYSTERY BABYLON" if it were not such a mystery then why did John refer to it this way?

My conclusion is that it is because it is not Ancient Babylon.

Whether or not America is "Mystery Babylon" remains to be seen, but I think that one can gather that the scripture in Revelation is not referring to Babylon. When looking at this passage through these lenses, one can see the parallels from other scriptures references in the OT of Ancient Babylon.

I certainly think that the scriptures in the OT speak of Ancient Babylon. Yet as with many other Prophetic passages there are multiple layers. I believe that they have 2 fold meanings, past history also the bigger endtime scenerio/ future.

With this in mind we know that even in the sense of "Mystery Babylon" John references Babylon. Why is this? I feel to draw from these comparrison, and see the similarities with AB. I think that one cannot come to a conclusion of who this endtime player is unless viewed through theses lenses and a strong study of Ancient Babylon is pursued.

Personally I think that Mystery Babylon encompasses much more than just America; but I do think that She is a Mostly the Big Player. If it were not a mystery and the Lord was speaking of Babylon then why did He not just say Babylon?

As for all of the other discussion that have went on here I have no clue. I have studied the Mason thing and the Conspiracy thing and honestly I have no idea? Just a few thoughts from little ole me.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming

1LikeDeborah,

How true it is and how right you are! America is just one of ALL the nations that will be brought down. Maybe we're the 'kings of the isles beyond the seas'?




Maybe it's 'mystery' Babylon because it will remain unseen until it's to late to do anything about it? Just an idea...

God bless, In Christ, Angela

God bless you Angela. It seems we will never agree because we are in a different scope. Nevertheless I do agree that Mystery Babylon in time will be revealed. There's no intention to offend you or start a forum brawl. I think we all have different opinions here. I'm for one expecting deception to be so big that it will shock everyone, so hard to believe that people will find it almost impossible to realize who mystery babylon is. When the time comes one of us should accept if wether we are right or wrong, and hopefully that day no matter what we'll both be closer to the Lord.

Some other interesting facts by Rev. R.L Meares:

The Council on Foreign Relations was conceived in May of 1919 at the Paris Peace Conference. It was determined by the representatives of the conference that an "international group which would advise their respective governments on international affairs" should have separate sub-groups operating and cooperating with one another world-wide. The Council on Foreign Relations was headquartered in New York. The Royal Institute of International affairs was headquartered in London. Other organizations were set up in Paris, France and Hamburg, Germany, (The World Order, Eustace Mullins, Ezra Pound Inst. Of Civilization Stauntin, Va.)

The CFR was officially formed on the 29th of July 1921. The men who made up the CFR were men who met the approval of Baron Edmond de Rothschild of France. It was Baron de Rothschild who dominated the conference in Paris (The Unseen Hand, R.Epperson).

Money for the founding of the CFR came primarily from J.P. Morgan, Bernard Baruch, Jacob Schiff, Paul D. Warburg and John D. Rockefeller, among others. This was the same international banking crowd and industrialists who founded the Federal Reserve Board.

At this writing, the CFR has 2,670 members, of whom 952 reside in New York, 339 in Boston and 730 in Washington D.C. It's membership reads like a "Who's Who of America". Most of the nation's top leaders in government, education, labor, the military, the media and banking, are members, (CFR Annual Report, 1987-1990).

A former member of the CFR, Rear Admiral Chester Ward warned the American People of the organizations intentions. "The most powerful clique in these elite groups have one common objective--they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United Stated..." Primarily they want...control of global government ("Correction Please", Review of The News, April 9,1980). It should also be noted that in Study Number 7, a CFR position paper published on November 25, 1959 the stated purpose of the CFR was "to advocate the building of a New International Order."

The term New World Order (or New International Order) has been used privately by the CFR since it's inception to describe the coming world government. It has only been since the fall of 1990 that CFR members have, for the first time, began using the term publicly. This is a subliminal attempt to condition the public for what lies ahead.

The term New World Order has been used by Illuminized Freemasonry since Weishaupt to signify the coming world government. One of the Illuminized Freemasonry's secret symbols was placed upon the back of our dollar bill during the administration of Franklin Roosevelt.

Roosevelt himself was a thirty-third degree mason and close associate of the CFR. The Masonic symbol consist of a 13 tiered pyramid with the "all seeing eye" of Osiris or Baal above it. Embossed around the seal, we find, ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM "Announcing The Birth Of The New Order Of The Ages" or "New World Order."

On the opposite side of the bill is the Eagle. A symbol of the United States. However above the head of the eagle; and made of stars is found the six pointed star of Ashtoreth - another symbol of the ancient Babylonian Mystery cult. The very fact that this symbol is over the eagles head, shows that since the administration of Franklin Roosevelt, the U.S. has been under the control of Mystery Babylon, working its will through the New World Order, (When Is The Rapture-G. Reckart).



With the start of World War II the CFR, working with Franklin Roosevelt, gained control of the U.S. Department of State, thus ever after influencing foreign policy. "Organization became virtually an agency of the government....The Rockefeller Foundation had started and financed certain studies, manned largely by associates of the Council (CFR); the State Department....took these studies over, retaining the major personnel which the Council (CFR) had supplied." (Foundations--Their Power and Influence, Rene Wormser).

CFR control of the State Department would ensure U.S. membership in the United Nations following the War. "The United Nations was spawned two weeks after Pearl Harbor. Secretary Hull, at the direction of his faceless sponsors....recommended the founding of a Presidential Advisory Committee on Post War Foreign Policy. This...was in fact the planning commission for the United Nations and it's charter." (Bulletin-Should The U.S. Participate and Encourage Development of the U.N., Col. A.E. Roberts). Colonel Roberts went on to describe most of the committee members as CFR officials.

In Oosterbeek, Holland in 1954, approximately one hundred of the world's power-elite met for the purpose of regionalizing Europe (The Unseen Hand, Epperson). This group, made up of members of the CFR and members of other world groups, became known as THE BILDERBERGERS.

George McGhee, former U.S. Ambassador to West Germany revealed that the "Treaty Of Rome which brought about the Common Market was nurtured at the Bilderberger meetings" (Ten Kingdoms Among The Beast, Newswatch Magazine). Virtually every one of current or former Bilderbergers is a current or former member of the CFR.

Another organization that has drawn a high percentage of it's membership from the CFR is the Club Of Rome. The Club had it's beginning in April of 1968 when leaders from ten different countries gathered in Rome at the invitation of Auerlio Peccei, an Italian industrialist with close ties to Fiat. (Mankind At The Turning Point-The Second Report Of The Club Of Rome, Reader's Digest Press) The organization claims to have the solutions for World peace and prosperity. The solution, One World Government.

Charged with overseeing the regionalization and unification of the entire world, the Club's recommendations are published from time to time in special, confidential reports, sent to the power-elite of the world. One report, released September 17, 1973, recommended that the "world be divided into ten political / economic regions". The report is entitled "Regionalized Model Of The Global World System" (Ten Kingdoms Along With The Beast, Newswatch Magazine, March/ April, 1984). This report was prepared by COR members Mihazlo Mesarovic and Eduard Peste (ibid.).

In the book Mankind At A Turning Point, already quoted, pages 151 and 152, we find that the beliefs of the individuals associated with the COR is Pantheism. Thus the COR, UN, CFR, indeed, the whole New World Order has it's roots in Mystery Babylon.

In 1973, a new organization was formed to facilitate and accommodate the new era of "global economic interdependence" brought about by the oil crisis. The Trilateral Commission (TC) would promote World Government, by encouraging economic interdependence among the superpowers. Steering the economies of the member nations into a position where they would be completely intertwined. The commission was formed by David Rockefeller and the TC's first director and the man who drafted the charter was Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski would later become President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor. (Constitutional Money, Dalton)

In one of his books, detailing his world view, (Between Two Ages) Brizinski calls for a new international monetary system and prepares his readers for a global taxation system. He also reveals on pg. 72 his views on Karl Marx, calling Marx a man of "maturing...universal vision".

You may ask, "If all this is happening, how come the American People don't hear about it?" The answer is quite simple. Media representatives who are members of the CFR consist of (by affiliate): CBS-William Paley, Dan Rather, Harry Reasoner, and Bill Moyer. NBC-Tom Brokaw, John Chancellor, Marvin Kalb, Irving R. Levine. ABC-Peter Jennings, David Brinkly, John Scali, Barbara Walters. CNN-Daniel Shorr. PBS-Robert McNeil, John Lehrer.

In addition a report by Congress in 1974 indicated that Chase Manhattan Bank owns substantial stock in ABC, NBC and CBS. The same trend applies to the Newspaper and magazine publishing firms of the U.S.

John D. Rockefeller made his first move on education in 1902 when he formed the General Education Board (GEB). Fredrick T. Gates an assistant to Rockefeller was installed as chairman.

The philosophy of the GEB was revealed in the boards "Occasional Letter, No. 1." "In our dream we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our moulding hands. The present educational conventions fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk".

Also of note, the National Education Association (NEA) the countries chief lobby for education is financed by the Rockefeller/Carnegie foundations.

Up to this point I have given you just a very brief description of a few key players and their organizations. These are interested in promoting and seeing the vision of a New World Order come about - a global government, with some type of Luciferic religion as a means and mode of worship.

Behind these key players and their organizations are a host of others. Let me name just a few: The World Constitution and Parliamentary Association, Lucis (Lucifer) Trust (which has included such members as Robert McNamara, Henry Kissinger, and George Shultz). (World Dictatorship, Warner). Their is the World Union, World Federalist Association, American Civil Liberties Union, Sierra Club, American Humanist Association, World Future Socialist, Fellowship Of Inner Light, National Organization For Women; the list could go on. Also tied into these organizations are such Mega corporations as, GE, IBM, Xerox, and AT & T, and many more. ("World Future Society's World View 84", World Dictatorship, Warner).

This is not a plan that has taken shape overnight, nor in just a few short years. It is a plan that has been shaped and molded. These ideas have been cultivated for centuries, waiting for that moment in time when it would all come together.

In closing, I would like to stress this is a "world" conspiracy. It reaches into the highest levels of all major governments. It has been carried throughout the world by avenue of Freemasonry.

The secret teaching's of this New World Order are the teachings of Masonic Theology. Masonic Theology has it's roots in Pantheism. In his book; Morals And Dogmas, Albert Pike states "All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabbalah and return to it. Everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the Illuminati: Jacob, Boehome, Swedenborg, St-Martin, and others; is borrowed from the Kabbalah....the Kabbalah alone consecrates the alliance of the Universal Reason With Faith, Power With Liberty, Science With Mystery; It has the keys of the present, the past and the future....Lucifer, the Light Bearer!....Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!....Is it he who bears the light?....Doubt it not!" (Morals And Dogmas, Albert Pike, pg. 321, 744, 745).

We are sitting on the verge of a world crisis like man has never imagined. A real global crisis. But the Scriptures declare "....And the ten horns....are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These shall have one mind and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: For he is Lord of Lords and King of Kings; and they that are with him are called, chosen, and faithful." (Revelations 17:12-14).

In Jesus Name, Amen
R.L. Meares

Copyright 1998, R.L. Meares, all rights reserved

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Note from Ken Raggio:

Mystery Babylon is a symbiotic entity, comprised of the Roman Catholic Church as the spiritual centerpiece with the entire New World Order as its secular colleague. They are spiritually intertwined at the present, but will be separated at the "judgment of the Great Whore", mentioned in Revelation 17:1 and 19:2. The "Beast" (NWO) will turn against the "Whore" (RCC) and destroy her.

Revelation 17:16-18: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

Info found at http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-Babylon-Meares.htm


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Now after all these facts (note there's references, nothing is maked up) who seems to be pushing this WORLD agenda? Indeed it includes the WHOLE WORLD, but which nation bears it's symbols? Peace to you all and God bless, Chronicles.

"What's at stake here, is more than a big "idea", it's a dream, a NEW WORLD ORDER". [color=#FF0000]George Bush senior.

"When our founders declared a NEW ORDER OF THE AGES, they were acting on an ancient hope, that is meant to be fullfilled". George W. Bush innagural speech 2005.

Thanks for the information.
What do the letters at the bottom of the pryamid mean?

The letters are Roman Numerals "1776" designating the founding of the U.S. Constitution, but are more secretively seen as the designation of the Illuminati started by Adam Weisaupt in Bavaria.

2 Chronicles 32:7, keep up the good work in exposing this stuff. Have you seen that drawing I drew in 1984? I believe it exposes alot of this illuminati stuff but I have trouble explaining it.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=8917





http://twighlightzone.home.att.net/demo/demo.htm

Thank you mmdl and wernotalone, I appreciate your nice comments and interest on the topic. Thank you for considering such facts. Other intelectuals think that "1776" is also the year (this is too a historic fact) that the first masonic lodge was installed in the "New World" or the "New Atlantis" which for them was America. Contrary to common knowledge people say that the date does not represent America's revolution or birth as a nation (we all know it was 1777), but rather a year earlier with the installment of such lodge in the district of Columbia. Such date was the begginig of their global plan and the proof of their existance in the new continent. For those that do not know, the Statue of liberty was a masonic "gift", if you go to Staten Island you can read it for yourselves. She's considered to be the godess of columbia and she also represents the light bearer. If not, why does she has a torch? And why is she in the baphomet position poiting up? In such bizarre representations, (Georgie Washington has a statue of him in the same position, just sitting) they are pointing to the "North star", some people know it as "Draco" or dragon. Is satanism the north star represent the light bearer, or Lucifer.



But well, I'm sure that just plain concidence...or is it? To continue with lady liberty, intellectuals on the subject (and by this I mean PHD's not your average conspiracy theorist, a term to point how somebody is crazy for going against the government and diminish the individual) say that it was a another symbol to show that they were already here. As with other masonic symbols in the country is to show who's who, and to state who has the power. In almost every important country you will find an Obelisk, denoting the presence of masonry in its government. In my humble opinion, and that of more important people in the study of such topic, Great Britain and America are the two countries with a larger presence of Masonry, hence its power.

But well, that power won't last for long, Jesus will come and will show who's who. He will bring glory to the Father and we will honor Him. God bless you all and love, Chronicles.

p.s. Looking forward to stop World Domination standing up against the beast in Jesus name!!!



And for anyone who says Georgie wasn't a mason...



Yep, the great architect of the world...from the same temple as the one they have in their dollar bill...with a pyramid with the eye of horus that "bears the light"...horus was also the sun god...Yep Georgie boy...Yes my fellow christians, that is a very christian thing to do...the letter says that: the result of which let us hope, will prove through "all ages", a "sanctuary for brothers" and a "lodge" for the virtues...so 1776 was the beggining of that, this letter from 1796 says it so and lets us see what was the intention of their efforts...but you still won't believe even after seeing the proofs...I pray for you, may the true God, the father of Jesus bless you, Amen.

...last year i posted a dream/revalation about the idol liberty...

i don't think its there anymore...it seemed that it was a silent
witness to the destruction of the twin towers...and it seemed that
"she" is also known as the lady in the occult...her base is inscripted
and her seven pointed crown is referred to the seven veils or the
seven gates to hell...

there is poetic and architectural significance to having received
"giants" in the land...o, yes they are beautiful...and we attach
very strong altruistic feeling and sentiments...

remember, though, we are not patriots of this world...we are
sojourners...our boundaries are those of love...and our Father
is the creator of the World...and He loves Us intensely, and
also individually...our lands are given as pastures...but our home
is somewhere else...with the Shepherd.

blessings,
signet

Chronicles, I'm sorry to say this, but you are definately showing symptoms of that "exagerated, over the top patriotism" you speak of. Have you traveled much? Maybe you need to read more than all that conspiracy stuff you are reading. "America has become the greatest nation"? I'm an American and I love my country, but I understand full well that we are not the "greatest nation". First of all, America is not yet 250 years old. The Roman Republic/Empire existed for 800 years when it crumbled. Do you realize how old China is, or Iran for that matter? Your ideas are typical American arrogance that are dispised around the world. Maybe it's not your fault. Americans do not have the sense of history that the rest of the world has. Which is why we got into this mess to begin with. We operate in this world as if history began in 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Yeah, France gets on my nerves sometimes, but I have to give them Charlemagne. Good and bad America stood on the shoulders of Europe. Utilizing political ideas from the Roman Republic and ideologies stemming from the Magna Carta just to name a couple. Many nations have known a brief moment of greatness in time. Sumer, Egypt, Israel, Persia, Rome, Spain, England... You would do well to bear this in mind when you put America in perspective. You take far more credit than you deserve. China is passing us by as we speak. I see no clear reference to America in the Bible unless we participate in a play on words. It is my belief that one of two things is going to happen.

The United States could suffer a natural disaster of gigantic proportions that will remove us from the world stage. There are multiple scenarios looming, and Katrina has served as a warning that we are helpless against nature. Or war will cripple us and make us too weak to help Israel. I'm afraid that we have spread ourselves too thin. And if not, between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea do you think that we stand a chance? Yes, even though you bitterly critisize the U.S., you have grandiose ideas regarding our greatness.

As C-los points out, everything is going according to God's plan.

sojourner

Chronicles, I'm sorry to say this, but you are definately showing symptoms of that "exagerated, over the top patriotism" you speak of. Have you traveled much? Maybe you need to read more than all that conspiracy stuff you are reading. "America has become the greatest nation"? I'm an American and I love my country, but I understand full well that we are not the "greatest nation". First of all, America is not yet 250 years old. The Roman Republic/Empire existed for 800 years when it crumbled. Do you realize how old China is, or Iran for that matter? Your ideas are typical American arrogance that are dispised around the world. Maybe it's not your fault. Americans do not have the sense of history that the rest of the world has. Which is why we got into this mess to begin with. We operate in this world as if history began in 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Yeah, France gets on my nerves sometimes, but I have to give them Charlemagne. Good and bad America stood on the shoulders of Europe. Utilizing political ideas from the Roman Republic and ideologies stemming from the Magna Carta just to name a couple. Many nations have known a brief moment of greatness in time. Sumer, Egypt, Israel, Persia, Rome, Spain, England... You would do well to bear this in mind when you put America in perspective. You take far more credit than you deserve. China is passing us by as we speak. I see no clear reference to America in the Bible unless we participate in a play on words. It is my belief that one of two things is going to happen.

The United States could suffer a natural disaster of gigantic proportions that will remove us from the world stage. There are multiple scenarios looming, and Katrina has served as a warning that we are helpless against nature. Or war will cripple us and make us too weak to help Israel. I'm afraid that we have spread ourselves too thin. And if not, between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea do you think that we stand a chance? Yes, even though you bitterly critisize the U.S., you have grandiose ideas regarding our greatness.

As C-los points out, everything is going according to God's plan.

sojourner
[/quote]

When I was saying: "America has become the greatest nation..." I was refering to the last 80 or so years in which America has grown as the highest superpower by the means of war. Believe me, culturally I know there are greater places, if anything I'm ashamed...because everything we have in America comes from other places, we are the product of the interaction of other cultures, the truly american culture for me is not as grandious as it's clearly in other places. If anything we are known for our pride and love of war...hamburgers and hotdogs...so yes I'm ashamed. I've traveled much, in fact 12 years of my life I lived in Mexico City (I said I was part mexican, part american), and believe me I know the world's view on America, that's the reason why I'm writing this trying to expose America's mistakes. Now you tell me, You want to know what's the opionion they have of us in other places? If I tell you so, you or other members in the forum will cry, cause believe me, we are not that wellcome...I've traveled to Brasil, I've talked to europeans (spain, portugal and other places), french (even though they are european I need to separate them not for me, but for you), and a lot of latin american citizens in my travels, and you know what they say? First they complain about our arrogance of calling ourselves America, since the American Continent is all the way from the top to the bottom, Americo Vespucci who was a famous cartographer named such continent. They even "hate us" for our ignorance, and no wonder, just as an example, people who live in the mexican and american border in California think that Tijuana is mostly all of Mexico, and think that they do not need to speak any other language than english anywhere they go. Some other american fellow citizens asked me if when I was in Mexico I was riding on horseback. Funny enough Mexico City is one if not the biggest and the most polluted city in the world, of course they have cars. Now you tell me, can we think outside of our little box? If anything I've been called anti-american. You can't judge me for one statemnet, specially if I'm writing to Americans, I need to put things in their perspective. Now, about not travelling much or not knowing enough about the world and having an interest for other cultures? Should we speak in another language? Vocé quer falar em outro idioma? Quer falar em Portugues? Com certeza voce nem conhece o idioma...Quieres hablar en Español? Sería mas fácil para ti que atacarme? Ahora si puedes llamarme arrogante por que hablo 3 idiomas y estoy aprendiendo un cuarto. I dind't think so...Cause I know 3 languages, and I'm about to start my fourth, so you tell me? Do I lack a sense of world culture? How many languages do you or the average american knows? Well just so you know, my view of America is influenced by other places and cultures, that's why I can think outside of the box. And that's why whenever I see America commiting those horrible crimes against humanity and promoting non-existant wars (you can ask my best find Alberto from panama {619-269-55- the last 2 digits I'll give to you if you really want to ask him} what do they think about Americans, he lived those episodes), I 'm ashamed of calling myself an American. So yes I share those 2 world views, and I choose to see our country from the outside. Thanks to that I also see Christianity in a different way than it's seen in America. So please next time think better before making a statement about me based on a single line, I did it mostly so "hard core americans" would understand. Nevertheless God bless you, because even if we do not agree and each one decides to support a different political view, we are both believers in Christ, and our Lord is the only true God. I like to believe he comes first for all of us before any nation does. So amen to you and all and God bless, Chronicles.

p.s. I don not like to seem arrogant and brag about knowledge and culture, but you left me no other option, I'm sorry, and there's no intention of fighting with you or anyone in here. If I want to glorify somebody, it will only be our Lord.

[quote name='2 Chronicles 32:7' date='Jan 22 2007, 02:44 PM' post='99617']
Chronicles, I'm sorry to say this, but you are definately showing symptoms of that "exagerated, over the top patriotism" you speak of. Have you traveled much? Maybe you need to read more than all that conspiracy stuff you are reading. "America has become the greatest nation"? I'm an American and I love my country, but I understand full well that we are not the "greatest nation". First of all, America is not yet 250 years old. The Roman Republic/Empire existed for 800 years when it crumbled. Do you realize how old China is, or Iran for that matter? Your ideas are typical American arrogance that are dispised around the world. Maybe it's not your fault. Americans do not have the sense of history that the rest of the world has. Which is why we got into this mess to begin with. We operate in this world as if history began in 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Yeah, France gets on my nerves sometimes, but I have to give them Charlemagne. Good and bad America stood on the shoulders of Europe. Utilizing political ideas from the Roman Republic and ideologies stemming from the Magna Carta just to name a couple. Many nations have known a brief moment of greatness in time. Sumer, Egypt, Israel, Persia, Rome, Spain, England... You would do well to bear this in mind when you put America in perspective. You take far more credit than you deserve. China is passing us by as we speak. I see no clear reference to America in the Bible unless we participate in a play on words. It is my belief that one of two things is going to happen.

The United States could suffer a natural disaster of gigantic proportions that will remove us from the world stage. There are multiple scenarios looming, and Katrina has served as a warning that we are helpless against nature. Or war will cripple us and make us too weak to help Israel. I'm afraid that we have spread ourselves too thin. And if not, between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea do you think that we stand a chance? Yes, even though you bitterly critisize the U.S., you have grandiose ideas regarding our greatness.

As C-los points out, everything is going according to God's plan.

sojourner
[/quote]

When I was saying: "America has become the greatest nation..." I was refering to the last 80 or so years in which America has grown as the highest superpower by the means of war. Believe me, culturally I know there are greater places, if anything I'm ashamed...because everything we have in America comes from other places, we are the product of the interaction of other cultures, the truly american culture for me is not as grandious as it's clearly in other places. If anything we are known for our pride and love of war...hamburgers and hotdogs...so yes I'm ashamed. I've traveled much, in fact 12 years of my life I lived in Mexico City (I said I was part mexican, part american), and believe me I know the world's view on America, that's the reason why I'm writing this trying to expose America's mistakes. Now you tell me, You want to know what's the opionion they have of us in other places? If I tell you so, you or other members in the forum will cry, cause believe me, we are not that wellcome...I've traveled to Brasil, I've talked to europeans (spain, portugal and other places), french (even though they are european I need to separate them not for me, but for you), and a lot of latin american citizens in my travels, and you know what they say? First they complain about our arrogance of calling ourselves America, since the American Continent is all the way from the top to the bottom, Americo Vespucci who was a famous cartographer named such continent. They even "hate us" for our ignorance, and no wonder, just as an example, people who live in the mexican and american border in California think that Tijuana is mostly all of Mexico, and think that they do not need to speak any other language than english anywhere they go. Some other american fellow citizens asked me if when I was in Mexico I was riding on horseback. Funny enough Mexico City is one if not the biggest and the most polluted city in the world, of course they have cars. Now you tell me, can we think outside of our little box? If anything I've been called anti-american. You can't judge me for one statemnet, specially if I'm writing to Americans, I need to put things in their perspective. Now, about not travelling much or not knowing enough about the world and having an interest for other cultures? Should we speak in another language? Vocé quer falar em outro idioma? Quer falar em Portugues? Com certeza voce nem conhece o idioma...Quieres hablar en Español? Sería mas fácil para ti que atacarme? Ahora si puedes llamarme arrogante por que hablo 3 idiomas y estoy aprendiendo un cuarto. I dind't think so...Cause I know 3 languages, and I'm about to start my fourth, so you tell me? Do I lack a sense of world culture? How many languages do you or the average american knows? Well just so you know, my view of America is influenced by other places and cultures, that's why I can think outside of the box. And that's why whenever I see America commiting those horrible crimes against humanity and promoting non-existant wars (you can ask my best find Alberto from panama {619-269-55- the last 2 digits I'll give to you if you really want to ask him} what do they think about Americans, he lived those episodes), I 'm ashamed of calling myself an American. So yes I share those 2 world views, and I choose to see our country from the outside. Thanks to that I also see Christianity in a different way than it's seen in America. So please next time think better before making a statement