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dennis mann
(Almost) the whole world hates Bush and his Iraq War.
(Almost) the whole world hates Israel.

Even many Americans appear to want America to “lose” the Iraq War. Why? So, they can attack/hate Bush further.

Why do so many people hate Bush, so much?
Regardless of whether Bush is born-again-Christian or not,……..Bush is LABELED as a Christian.
And America is LABELED the great pre-eminent Christian nation.
And the Iraq War is LABELED Bush’s war.
So,…….the world attacks and hates Bush, Bush’s war, and America.

Satan influences the un-saved people to hate Jesus, Israel, the God of Israel, Bible, Bible-believers, Pastors, etc
The in-dwelling Holy Spirit influences Christians to love God and the things of God.
One way for Satan to attack God is to attack Bush and criticize/ridicule Bush’s war.

BUT!
Shekel’s codes could have been fulfilled if Saddam had not been hanged as prophesied in the Bible.
Bush’s victory over Gore in the 2000 election was a Sign from God , as per Shekel.
Bush’s attack against Iraq/Saddam was a Sign from God, as per Shekel.

What is the largest headline in the newspaper, every day? The “great disastrous” Bush’s war.
My point is: The whole world (almost) is opposed to Bush/The Bush War/God/fulfillment of the Bible prophecies.

Do the codes mention this world-opposition to the fulfillment of the prophecies?
Revelation Chapters 17-19………The world cries when Babylon is destroyed. And the “woman who rides the beast” is destroyed.

There was a spike in demonic activity at the First Advent of Christ.
There is a spike in demonic activity now. At the Second Coming.
Good is called bad. Bad is called good. The liberals and Rome cried when Saddam was hung.

This Bush-hatred and Saddam/Babylon-love is not understandable, unless we account for it as demonic activity.
If Bush were a pagan, the world would love him.
There is a great Spiritual war between God and His angels versus Satan and his demons. Which is related to this war down here on earth.
mmddll
Don't be deceived. Satan has the whole (unsaved) world where he wants them. His trick is to get "saved" people to love Bush and his war. You are Satan's target.



Iraq is not "Mystery Babylon". Mystery Babylon is the pre-eminent merchant center of the whole world, Iraq could never qualify as Mystery Babylon is described in Revelation. New York City or even Washington D.C. is the most likey candidate. The United Nations is headquartered there (NY, NY)

P.S. I don't think anyone on this board hates Bush or wants the U.S. to lose this war, but for all practical purposes, we see the hypocrisy behind it. Bush has chosen, whether intentional or not, to be a spokesperson for the Christian religion and I personally see how he has put alot of Middle Eastern Christians in danger due to his swift actions. And quite frankly, he has proven himself to be dishonest at least as far as our Mexican border is concerned. Add up the fruits.
dennis mann
QUOTE(mmddll @ Jan 13 2007, 07:37 PM) [snapback]98904[/snapback]

Don't be deceived. Satan has the whole (unsaved) world where he wants them. His trick is to get "saved" people to love Bush and his war. You are Satan's target.



Iraq is not "Mystery Babylon". Mystery Babylon is the pre-eminent merchant center of the whole world, Iraq could never qualify as Mystery Babylon is described in Revelation. New York City or even Washington D.C. is the most likey candidate. The United Nations is headquartered there (NY, NY)

P.S. I don't think anyone on this board hates Bush or wants the U.S. to lose this war, but for all practical purposes, we see the hypocrisy behind it. Bush has chosen, whether intentional or not, to be a spokesperson for the Christian religion and I personally see how he has put alot of Middle Eastern Christians in danger due to his swift actions. And quite frankly, he has proven himself to be dishonest at least as far as our Mexican border is concerned. Add up the fruits.



I don't know if Bush is Born-again , or not.
He is LABELED as Christian.
I'm a preacher, not a politician.
Preachers traffic in Absolute Truth.
Politicians traffic in compromise (unless they are dictators). Democracies cannot operate without a lot of compromise. If you have 600 Congressmen, and one President, they MUST compromise to agree on anything.

So, if a perfect christian were elected, he would be forced to compromise, or he wouldn't get anything done in Govt.

I dis-agree with much of Bush's actions, but, i have very little influence over the process, except prayer.


There are MANY Babylons. As per Shekel.
Iraq is literal Babylon.
Washington DC is political babylon.
NYC is economic Babylon.
Pentagon is military babylon
San Francisco is gay babylon
Hollywood is entertainment babylon
etc
The whole world system of opposition-to-God, (except for the christians), is Babylon.


You said "add up the fruits".
Suppose that an influential christian spokesman (who-ever) speaks the Truth, and then, the Muslims world-wide are angered, and they attack christians in foriegn lands.
Does that prove that the truth should not be spoken?
It's easy for me to speak the truth, since I've never suffered (serious ) attack and persecution. BUT! I love the persecuted Church!
Miki
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P.S. I don't think anyone on this board hates Bush or wants the U.S. to lose this war, but for all practical purposes, we see the hypocrisy behind it. Bush has chosen, whether intentional or not, to be a spokesperson for the Christian religion and I personally see how he has put a lot of Middle Eastern Christians in danger due to his swift actions. And quite frankly, he has proven himself to be dishonest at least as far as our Mexican border is concerned. Add up the fruits.


mmddll ... now your lying to yourself. rolleyes.gif You're in denial!

Pick it apart one line at a time folks.

Each ill thought out sentence is a debate in itself. wub.gif

But this isn't one of the "greater" things to debate.

Our country will be corrected and if you want to make Bush the scapegoat l feel sorry for you!

But l love you guys anyway! wub.gif
LoisFaith2000
smile.gif Good post!

09 January: Associates, investigators and Attorneys associated with AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc./Ambassador Leo E. Wanta and Michael C. Cottrell, M.S., inform AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc. that Vice President Cheney is planning to resign on or before 27th January and is negotiating with the Department of Justice for the non-prosecution of Haliburton for multiple double payments received via Vice President Cheney relating to the disastrous prosecution of the Iraq War.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/40_disgraced_paulson_on
AngelaNPraise
Dennis, thank you and others as I was beginning to feel alone in seeing this. You are also more articulate than I in stating these thoughts. God bless you.

Your sister in Christ, Angela
signet



maybe you have already heard this...

God is not a respector of persons........

so, if your respected leader of whatever...is not accountable...
then your prayers are for an idol...unless you know the difference...

judge not lest ye be judged...we hear this all the time...however,
we are to discern...and how do we do this....we look at the fruit...
for whatever the fruit is...that is the person...

same thing goes everyday...is it judgemental, does it run people
over, is it obnoxious, is it hurtful, is it perpetrating a lie, does it
kill, does it do these things in the name of the Lord? Is the Name
of the Lord Jesus Christ compromised? Does it quench the Spirit...
and is it a bully? Christ never bullied anyone...or forced Himself
on anyone...He knew the truth, for He is the person of the Truth...

unless you really discern the truth, you will stand agrieved of your
idols being smashed...and they will be, somewhere along the way,
for they will not be able to stand before a righteous God .

so, what is the message that leaders bring...one thing here, another
thing there...and what is the mixture?

we are sojourners...

2 Chronicles 32:7
I wonder what Jesus would do about racism?or racists? I think that as "americans" we think that everything we set our eyes on is ours. Well how sad, we seem to forget our mistakes and the past. Hopefully when someone comes around and conquer us and take our land with a massacre we'll understand. Hopefully they will not put the great seal with the great eye at the entrance of their borders, and their dollar, and their masonic symbols in their monuments (statue of so-called liberty for example), and become the great harlot hosting all sorts of false religions. But well, Mystery Babylon has been the same people, the same idiology, just keeps changing from empirte to empire. God bless America, a nation that has forgotten about Him (keeping his laws out of our courts), the land equality and opportunity, and the land of Albert Pike.
Miki
God blessed America for his purposes. He brought men from every nation to her and established a new land. He blessed us when we followed him...even if not perfectly. His purposes have almost come to fruition. This nation like others has not understood what God has given them. They take it for granted and follow after idols and do all sorts of wickedness in the sight of God. But there's more then 7000 here and more then 10...that haven't bowed their knee. God will save his people.

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The world hates but Christians don't have that option...
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His Iraq war
is a lie.
ingraceigo
I don't believe the world hates Bush. I certainly don't hate him. I do not respect all of his decisions regarding the invasion of Iraq, as I do not believe they are based on God's will, but his own will, and a deflection from the fact that he could not catch Osama BinLaden. I believe in the beginning he meant well, and had the right ideas, but I also think the power went to his head, and his pride has stepped in the way of his responsibilities and rational thinking. That does not mean he is a bad person, or president, just that he is a human being like the rest of us. Those who would put him on an alter are making a big mistake.

Not for one second do I believe he is doing this for God.
c-los medrano
QUOTE(ingraceigo @ Jan 15 2007, 07:12 AM) [snapback]99040[/snapback]

I don't believe the world hates Bush. I certainly don't hate him. I do not respect all of his decisions regarding the invasion of Iraq, as I do not believe they are based on God's will, but his own will, and a deflection from the fact that he could not catch Osama BinLaden. I believe in the beginning he meant well, and had the right ideas, but I also think the power went to his head, and his pride has stepped in the way of his responsibilities and rational thinking. That does not mean he is a bad person, or president, just that he is a human being like the rest of us. Those who would put him on an alter are making a big mistake.

Not for one second do I believe he is doing this for God.


I respect Bush
I pray for Bush
Thank you God.
AngelaNPraise
QUOTE(ingraceigo @ Jan 15 2007, 07:12 AM) [snapback]99040[/snapback]

I don't believe the world hates Bush. I certainly don't hate him. I do not respect all of his decisions regarding the invasion of Iraq, as I do not believe they are based on God's will, but his own will, and a deflection from the fact that he could not catch Osama BinLaden. I believe in the beginning he meant well, and had the right ideas, but I also think the power went to his head, and his pride has stepped in the way of his responsibilities and rational thinking. That does not mean he is a bad person, or president, just that he is a human being like the rest of us. Those who would put him on an alter are making a big mistake.

Not for one second do I believe he is doing this for God.


Whether he is doing this for God is debatable. What is not is that he is doing it for RIGHT. When America got involved in WWII and against Hitler, it would be debatable whether it was done for God, yet it was undoubtedely the right thing to do. Have only the people who have watched the History Channel seen the similarities between Saddam and Adolf? In fact, they had a good documentary called "Saddam and the Third Reich" that really brings it home! The connections are there, why do the same people who called the war against Hitler 'good', call the war against Saddam 'bad', when it's the same war? Check it out, you'll see what I mean.

As far as 'power going to his head', wouldn't that have changed his attitude as well? In most people, it does. Perhaps those who know him best are his security detail and flight crew. These are people who have witnessed several different presidents and their 'behind the scenes' personalities. I got this from Bill Jackson, a member of the security detail and flight crew;

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YOU WILL FIND THE SECRET SERVICE VIEWS ON THE PERSONALITIES OF PAST PRESIDENTS TO BE QUITE INTERESTING.

For those who don't know...Capt. Denny Keast flies for UAL and flew many SAM's (Special Air Mission's) for the White House.

I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE Two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon.

Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him, if the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't intervened, we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he (Johnson) was off somewhere. Nixon never required that and the four (4) stops we made with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me and my crew.

Denny Keast was a neighbor when I lived in DC who was also part of the secret service presidential detail for many years.

His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around.

When the president flies, there are several planes that also go, one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.

Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.

WHAT WAS:

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.

Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.

Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail.

Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors.

Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.

Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.

It was crystal clear that the Clinton 's neither liked nor respected each other and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.

They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton.

They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant.

She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton.

Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail.

Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details.

Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"

Word of this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread and he became disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary.

Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President, and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

WHAT IS:

Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature.

Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush.

Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

It is important for Americans to have a true inside understanding of their President.


I think this says a lot about 'Dubya'.

YSIC, Angela
gregg
George W. Bush, the present president, is not killing the people now. When he started the war, it was under the pretext that Saddam Hussein was a ferocious dictator bent on subjecting his citizens to cruelty using weapons of mass destruction.
Go back to 1982.
Saddam Hussein ordered his special security and military forces to carry out a reprisal attack against the town, which resulted in a total of 148 of the town's men being killed in the attack or executed later, some as young as 13 years of age.[1] 1,500 people were also incarcerated and tortured, while other residents, many of them women and children, were sent to desert camps. Saddam's regime destroyed the town and then rebuilt it shortly after. In addition to these punishments, 1,000 square kilometres (250,000 acres) of farmland was destroyed; replanting was only permitted 10 years later.[2]

In 1987-88 Saddam Hussein, after the United Nations had removed Kurdistan from the map and refused the making of a separate state for the Republic of Kurdistan, decided to rid the area of the Kurdish people. This was the Al-Anfal campaign.

During the Anfal campaign, the Iraqi government:

destroyed about 4,000 villages in Iraqi Kurdistan [4]
destroyed 1,754 schools, 270 hospitals, 2,450 mosques, 27 churches[5]
wiped out around 90% of Kurdish villages in targeted areas.[6]
A Kurdish rebel tried to assasinate Saddamn Hussein. In response, Saddam did not hunt down this one rebel, he slaughtered the whole population of Kurds with his weapon of mass destruction, nerve gas.

In 1990 Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. The first President Bush answered to this invasion by ordering troops to Saudi Arabia and forming an international alliance with the backing of the United Nations; "Operation Desert Storm". The liberation of Kuwait went reasonably swift without the loss of many lives on the side of the allied forces. This certainly contributed to Bush's popularity. After the Gulf War about 90% of the people, asked in polls, claimed to approve of the way Bush was handling his office.

Former President George Bush visited Kuwait between April 14 and April 16, 1993, to commemorate the allied victory in the Persian Gulf War. Accompanying Bush were his wife, two of his sons, former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, former Chief of Staff John Sununu, and former Treasury Secretary Nicholas Brady.

In late-April 1993, the United States learned that terrorists had attempted to assassinate Bush during his visit to Kuwait. The Kuwaiti authorities arrested 17 persons suspected in the plot to kill Bush using explosives hidden in a Toyota Landcruiser. The Kuwaitis recovered the Landcruiser, which contained between 80 and 90 kilograms of plastic explosives connected to a detonator ( the Bush device or Bush explosive device ). The Kuwaitis also recovered ten cube-shaped plastic explosive devices with detonators (the cube-bombs ) from the Landcruiser. Some of the suspects reportedly confessed that the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS ) was behind the assassination attempt. Additionally, based on past Iraqi methods and other sources of intelligence, the CIA independently reported that there was a strong case that Saddam Hussein directed the plot against Bush.

On June 26, 1993, the United States launched a cruise missile attack against a building housing the IIS in Baghdad in retaliation for the assassination attempt on former President Bush. According to news reports, the attack killed between six and eight persons and injured approximately 12 others. On June 27, 1993, Madeleine Albright, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, addressed an emergency session of the Security Council and provided evidence to support the attack on the IIS facility.

Between 1993 and 2006, there is 13 years. But, murder has no statute of limitations.

Now, there is the son who had gone with his dad to Kuwait to praise the troops for their job.

And, in discussing the threat posed by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, Bush said: "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad."

Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,000 Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during the Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,000. (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed could be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War.

George H. W. Bush was the last man whom Saddam was going to try and kill.

Ask yourself What Would God Do?
AngelaNPraise
QUOTE(gregg @ Jan 19 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]99443[/snapback]

When he started the war, it was under the pretext that Saddam Hussein was a ferocious dictator bent on subjecting his citizens to cruelty using weapons of mass destruction.

Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,000 Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during the Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,000. (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed could be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War.


Under the 'pretext'? Come on, your own numbers prove it was no 'pretext'.

What will God do? Allow it to continue and worsen until His Son returns, when all who have rejected Him will suffer far worse than anything we comprehend.

God bless, Angela
gregg
What everybody was saying at the beginning of the bombings in Iraq was that 'Bush lied. There was no weapons of mass destruction.'
Pre-text means the text before. The text of the speech of Bush to cover our reason for the bombings was there was WMD, and that was definitly true.

What will God do?
God is just as much Saddam Hussein as He is George W. Bush. Jesus Christ, on the other hand, forgives the creation of both men. Jesus Christ places both men in their own creations. Jesus Christ said, 'I did not come to judge the world but that the world might be saved through me.'
We cannot erase the fact that Jesus said about the ten commandments, 'If you are guilty in one, you are guilty of all.'

Saddam Hussein became guilty of 'Thou shall not kill' when he killed the first Kurd or whoever was the first. On the other hand, Bush is more guilty because the first Iraqi killed was for revenge.

God will allow the war to continue until everybody is drained of their resources and they cannot fight anymore. Then there will be peace.
Jesus Christ will not interefere with His Father's creation. He is trying to save it.

What message do you get from the story of the woman caught in adultery? God created the woman and God created the men who were going to stone her. Jesus Christ was there to save her.

Jesus Christ did not call an army of angels to stop His crucifixion because He cannot interfere, He cannot stop anything from happening.

A man goes into his house and picks up a gun and goes out and shoots and kills somebody. God created everything in that situation from the man to the gun. Jesus Christ said, 'My sheep hear My voice' and 'If a man does not hear my voice, he is none of mine.'

The situation started when the man went into the house to get the gun. Jesus Christ was yelling at the man, 'Stop, stop!' and the man went on because he didn't hear Him.

Now, we do not have a flesh and bone Jesus to yell at us when we are about to do something wrong, we have the spirit of Jesus to let us know that we are to stop.
AngelaNPraise
QUOTE(gregg @ Jan 24 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]99789[/snapback]

Saddam Hussein became guilty of 'Thou shall not kill' when he killed the first Kurd or whoever was the first. On the other hand, Bush is more guilty because the first Iraqi killed was for revenge.


Revenge? NO. To keep him from killing who knows how many more? YES. (Please, everybody knows that SH did have WMD, he USED them on the Kurds. The U.N. inspectors were being run ragged chasing mobile labs and being stopped at gunpoint in the dessert! It is now most likely that Syria is in possesion of them.)


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A man goes into his house and picks up a gun and goes out and shoots and kills somebody. God created everything in that situation from the man to the gun. Jesus Christ said, 'My sheep hear My voice' and 'If a man does not hear my voice, he is none of mine.'

The situation started when the man went into the house to get the gun. Jesus Christ was yelling at the man, 'Stop, stop!' and the man went on because he didn't hear Him.

Now, we do not have a flesh and bone Jesus to yell at us when we are about to do something wrong, we have the spirit of Jesus to let us know that we are to stop.


Of course we do. The murderer you speak of needs to be stopped, though, before he commits more murders. That is why the strategic use of a police sniper taking him out would not be considered 'murder', or a sin. Same difference.

In Christ, Angela
jamie bocc
Almighty YAHWEH is in control of this world and what happens is his pleasure. I think Bush is like Mose's pharoh.

But as to Bush being a Christian, why would a true Christian say to the muslims right after 9/11 that we all pray to the same god. Islam does not pray to the GOD of the Bible! They say their god has no son. So was Bush calling YAHWEH , YESHUA and THE HOLY BIBLE liars?
gr82bsaved
QUOTE(LoisFaith2000 @ Jan 14 2007, 07:33 AM) [snapback]98959[/snapback]

smile.gif Good post!

09 January: Associates, investigators and Attorneys associated with AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc./Ambassador Leo E. Wanta and Michael C. Cottrell, M.S., inform AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc. that Vice President Cheney is planning to resign on or before 27th January and is negotiating with the Department of Justice for the non-prosecution of Haliburton for multiple double payments received via Vice President Cheney relating to the disastrous prosecution of the Iraq War.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/40_disgraced_paulson_on


Hi Louis,
I have been reading some of the posts you have written just this month. This one was posted on Jan 14th about Cheney resigning to save Haliburton from prosecution. It appears that these "prophets" are wrong - again. There seem to be so many of these prophets of doom out there - should I dare call them scorners and scoffers? - that one must ask the LORD GOD for discernment to see the truth.


AngelaNPraise
QUOTE(jamie bocc @ Jan 28 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]100101[/snapback]

But as to Bush being a Christian, why would a true Christian say to the muslims right after 9/11 that we all pray to the same god. Islam does not pray to the GOD of the Bible! They say their god has no son. So was Bush calling YAHWEH , YESHUA and THE HOLY BIBLE liars?


Probably simple ignorance perpetuated by the mainstream school-of-thought. I was always led to believe that the muslim's 'allah' was the same as Our Lord God. The term 'god of abraham' is seemingly always used to continue this myth. Many who call themselves christian today believe the bunk that their god is the same as ours based on this. We know better, but many do not.

In Christ, Angela
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