Are there any scriptures that support the manifestion of laughter under the Holy Spirit?

No. But I am sure that if you were to go to one of Rodney Howard Browns meetings you could get infected by what ever it is they are selling there. They might even have some scriptures on their web site to twist to that effect.

None that l know of but l can tell you a personal witness. I was watching them talk about this on television. The host started to laugh. In a moment l found my self laughing. I have to say my lost joy began to return to me after that. I had been through one of the heaviest most depressing times of my life. I must have laughed for 1/2 hour. Something seemed to change then. The joy of the Lord is my strength! He loves to laugh!

There you go GL...lumping everybody in one big ball again.

Sorry Miki
To me there are only two. The Living and the dead. Those created for honor and those created for dishonor. Those who are gathering and those who are scattering. Those who walk in the Spirit of God and those who walk in the spirit of perdition.
This is the day of wrath. The day for God's anger to be poured out. My Joy will come when the devil is no more.

Though I have never read in the bible a specific thing relating to a "spirit of joy", is there one or is there just an effect of certain things that is ordained by the Lord that causes the laughter? I do believe so. Why? Because if we don't find a specfic "spirit of joy" like we do find the "Holy Spirit" then in reality we cannot have a real "spirit of joy we can only have "effects" of certain scripture that leads to laughter.

For example:
Psalms 5:11-12
But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you. For surely, O Lord, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield.
Who says that SONG is only singing with music? The world labled singing with music did it not...Could laughter be considered song before the Lord? I do believe it can be so...I don't know about you but if the Lord is going to protect me because I love him, plus he surrounds me with His favor I do believe that is reason to crack a smile, if not a burst of laughter out of joy....

John 15: 9-10 "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
I know that when I have joy in my life I just can't contain a laugh or two. Sometimes I can't stop laughing and my side begins to hurt...Now just think the love of our Father abides in us if we obey and He makes our joy complete...I do believe that laughter may spontanous burst out because of the effect, not because of a spirit of joy...

Our temple (bodies) houses the Holy Spirit....Do our spirits change to suit the Word of God or does the Holy Spirit provide the "ACTION" of the Word in us? I believe the latter, the Holy Spirit provides the action....

Well, one might say or ask, "What about the 7 Spirit of God?" (Rev. 1:4) I believe they are a symbol of His completeness and fullness. I don't believe the seven Spirits mean seven different Spirits but the seven characteristics of One, the Holy Spirit. I think to have many spirits would cause a confusion and we know that God is not the author of confusion. I would think to have many spirits controlling us we would be chasing other spirits other than following the Holy Spirit, wouldn't you think so?

So, in my opinion and belief, no we don't have a specific spirit of laughter. We have an effect brought on by the Word of God that causes the laughter by what other well known as 1Peter 1:8 though you not seen Him, you love Him and even though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and are fill with an inexpressible and glorious joy, ......"joy unspeakable, just laughter.!!" An action, because the Word of the Lord is ALIVE!!!!!!!

While a I do think God has a sense of humor and doesn't mind us laughing until our sides hurt once in awhile.

I have not found anywhere in scripture where the Apostles fell down rolling on the floor uncontrollaby laughing because of the Holy Spirit... or anyone else in the New Testament church because of "joy". Joy is a fruit of the Holy Spirit not just based on emotions. All sorts of things can produce laughter...

As far as the so-called laughing revival...
I have heard of these kinds of things occurring with Hindu practioners of Shakti. Not only the uncontroallable laughter but people fainting and falling down in front of Gurus from laying on of hands or by breathing on them. Of course they claim Shakti is the worship of the Holy Spirit... but Hindus are pantheistic so we can't be talking about the same spirit here can we?

My dear sweet Deborah...

God began to deliver me from deep depression that day...Did it have anything to do what was going on around the country? I have no idea because l wasn't following closely. I heard about it but thought it was nonsense. The night l was watching that show something hit me funny. I don't know what it was but l started to laugh and laugh and laugh. It was the beginning of a long journey out of darkness. Whether that movement was anything or not?.... God used it with me.

I began to realize after that l hadn't laughed like that since l was 14 years old. Sad... (l was 40)

God began to show me some things about tears and laughter and what a fine line there was between the two. I began to slip over into joy more and more often. I began to question my moods of darkness and wonder why l was accepting it when l had such great reason to rejoice?! For a while there l was laughing and crying at the same time They could have called for the white coats!

Gradually l transitioned into a quite peace....... God is good. He can use anything he darn well pleases and you shouldn't lump judge. He'll weed the garden in the end and do the separating.

I still never really followed the movement that close and still only hear about the clucking and barking. The devil follows foolish men and slithers into every movement. But my peace was opened with joy. No one can take it from me. Leastwise men's opinions.

I'm able to laugh and enjoy the goodness of life with out the bad stealing it away. Do l weep? Yes.

But l won't let the devil carry me down the river of hopelessness on my own tears.

RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU!

hummm... I do believe that is what I said as well there D....

I also said:

And if it's joy UNSPEAKABLE, I am assuming that another type of reaction is going to take place....Could that be laughter? Not by a spirit of laughter but by the Holy Spirit....

I believe this so-called "holy laughter" is unbiblical. There is however a biblical laughter.

Sarah laughed and gave birth to "laughter".

The word "isaac" means "laughter".

ccc

But Sarah laughed at the Lord and then lied to Him about it. Not a good thing.

Yep! pretty much....

"But Sarah laughed at the Lord and then lied to Him about it. Not a good thing."

And your point is ? Are you indicating that this holy laughter movement is biblical?

No calvin. I am saying that Sarah should not be used as an example for anyone. Sarah was not saved by Abrahams faith. If she was the Lord would have included her in this scripture.

Matthew 8
11 And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.

Dah...It's so clear!

What started as the joy of the Lord sent to heal many (A merry heart doeth good like a medicine)was turned into an unholy spirit by the enemy.

I gave a heartfelt testimony to the good of it... Did you hear me?

Here's what needs to be accepted. It's hard. Really hard.

The enemy sows so closely over the top of a thing that unless you have the word AND the Spirit you will be easily fooled to follow a rabbit trail away from the truth of God.

This attempt of the enemy to discredit the works of the Lord has continued from the beginning. You have to get to the good of it and realize the enemy is at work to cover up the good news of God..and his works.

I think the clearest this has ever been for me is when Shekel started revealing what God showed from the atbash codes as well as those things revealed about Bel...dumb bel.... It was truly frightening that something could be so well disguised. But it shouldn't be a surprise because God describes the tare.

Just because there is tare growing up with the wheat doesn't mean the wheat is any less valid. You can't invalidate the good of a thing just because the enemy tampers. THAT'S HIS JOB AND PURPOSE. It's the whole reason God tells us to think on the good of a thing...It's his remedy for defeating the enemy. That's not an excuse to be wishy washy and except every silly thing that comes along. No just the opposite. To be discerning and willing to see the good of a thing in spite of the enemies attempts. This l believe is our biggest downfall as believers. We turn against each other instead of discerning the works of the enemy and holding up what's good...Amen?

Yes... there is a scripture for that.

Job 8:21 He will fill your mouth with laughter and your lips with joy.

There are some who feign... but there are others who are genuine.

Just because there is tare growing up with the wheat doesn't mean the wheat is any less valid. You can't invalidate the good of a thing just because the enemy tampers. THAT'S HIS JOB AND PURPOSE. It's the whole reason God tells us to think on the good of a thing...It's his remedy for defeating the enemy. That's not an excuse to be wishy washy and except every silly thing that comes along. No just the opposite. To be discerning and willing to see the good of a thing in spite of the enemies attempts. This l believe is our biggest downfall as believers. We turn against each other instead of discerning the works of the enemy and holding up what's good...Amen?[/quote]


Amen! Miki:

We can receive so much of the Lord thru our sisters and brothers if we don't look at their "flesh"! But to love them Like Jesus loves! To only see their "spirit". Did you see the "John" movie? It was beautiful about the ministry of Jesus. As Jesus was being attacked one-by-one, He would pause a minute to hear from His Father and then he would respond to the attack with pure wisdom; but His eyes were filled with LOVE for the one attacking Him. We are to love as Jesus Loved! Scripture tells us: speaking the truth in love!

Also, yes, there is no excuse for "wishy-washy"..... James says, "A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways". We can't be talking out of both sides of our mouth. We have to line-up with the WORD - verse-by-verse. We are in God's garden and we are growing into the full-ness and the stature of Christ. Christ in us - The HOPE OF GLORY!

We're not to worry about anything! The house that the Lord is building is built on a solid rock!
And we're standing on that Rock. You're our Rock! You are our cornerstone.Glory be your name And you're the Spirit of Prophecy, Lord.
You are the way the light the truth. You are our all in all.
Just when we think that nothing new could happen. There is everything new on the horizon!
Unimaginable things for us. To dazzle us! To delight us! ...in you .... that we will use to spread
to others. But, we will not have a spirit of heaviness; but a garment of praise; and we will put on
this garment of praise. Multiple anointings on individuals. Multiple layers - like a layer cake. Layers and
layers of anointing. I just see you bouncing and having a good time on this trampoline. And the Lord
is just energizing you that you will have this new spring and bounce about you wherever you go. You will be able
to move quickly and effortlessly. And youth is being restored to you looking about 35-38. That kind of youth
is being brought back to you. Time is being turned back like Hezekia. The Sunbeam dial being turned back.
For surely it shall be restored to you what the cankerworm ate.

With all due respect Lois...When you flood the market with so much information you seem to have made the determination for all of us. No offence but we can seek out all those sites on our own. Prophets in my opinion should be transparent. That is the accountability factor. Plus you make it hard to keep a track record.

I don't trust people who sit in the ivory tower of prophets. Whether you get a word or know a code or can count on both hands....It will all come to an end. People go around believing themselves to be the walking lips of God. I don't buy it...If a person won't bare their soul how can we now the heart from words?

Shekel has been very good about baring his soul. It's as good a testimony as the codes.

Just be real. Talk to people and don't pretend. People can then figure things out for themselves. I hate this holier then thou attitude when it come to prophesying. It's gonna end and hearts will be laid bare. When you bring so much in it become really difficult to see the slithering rabbit trail opening up. I don't like it. Just my opinion. But then who am l? Just another voice among the many with an opinion.

Joy, LOVE, Peace to you Miki!

God loves you and I love you!

On the human level I have no love for how you are attacking me or others. BUT, praise the Lord, I am experiencing God's love for you Miki. It isn't my love - it is His DIVINE love. The miracle is that because I have tried to forgive you, God came on the scene and gave me this. He just wants me to love; and, when I ran out of it....HE GAVE ME HIS LOVE.

HIS DIVINE LOVE FOR MIKI!
I've only experieced a "divine love" from Jesus just twice. To me it is beautiful. He also gave me a sense in my spirit of your warmth and caring. . . This is Jesus - not me!

I am taking your advice to me, now, and opening up! TY! You are to speak the truth in love! Bible/not me! You are to love your enemies! Bible/not me! You are to build up and not tare down. God is telling you in His Word not to tear me or others down. No weapon formed against me will prosper. All these verses in His Word....we all need TO DO. Furthermore, if you don't love me or like me or the things I do......than you are tearing many, many pages out of your Bible. Miki, where He says....love your enemies....well, then...I should be receiving tons of love from you. In I Corinthians 13 (the Love Chapter) we are told that "Love covers a multitute of sins. Love always wins! Stop the hate campaign and line up with the Word of God, and this hatred will have to go!

MIKI.....I say that your attacks have to stop! THERE IS A DIVINE LOVE & a DIVINE LAUGHTER! HA HA HALLELUJAH!

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Sorry guys, i sometimes forget that everyone is walking on glass on this forum and we should explain ourselves to the "T".

I did, once upon a time when i was a child, i felt very close to God and Jesus Christ. Close enough as though i was being surrounded with his love at all times and i could actually feel it running through my veins.

I always wanted to meet God or get some kind of message from an angel that God had some kind of mission for me.

This is what i meant by always wanting to talk to an angel.

I didn't mean anything occult by it whatsoever.

Sorry about sending you the wrong thoughts.




But, if they don't....I love you unconditionally WWJD! Just like JESUS!

Along with Jason .....I am Sorry. I ask your foregiveness!.........................Loey

But the question is JH, is there a "spirit of laughter?" To be a seperate spirit of laughter would seperate it from the fullness of the Holy Spirit. HE filled the mouth with a measure of His spirit not a seperate spirit...

I never mentioned anything having to do with a "spirit of laughter".

I think sometimes the Lord will fill our mouths with praise. Sometimes in intercessory prayer, we'll weep as we feel His heart for the hurting or the lost. Other times, He'll fill our mouths with laughter. The praise, the weeping, the laughing can happen privately or corporately. Like I said earlier, sometimes it is just feigned emotionalism... sometimes it is real.

But I prefaced by saying "I think"... simply because that has been my experience. That is my testimony.

Lois...

I love you. Your heart is humble and soft.

The volume of information you put here on the forum can be overwhelming. There is no way to validate it all (purely from an administrative point of view). I have no idea where you get all of the "words". Are these prophets friends of yours? Are you copying and pasting from the Elijah list? I do try and read some- but I'm afraid that my spirit can't absorb that much information nor discern whether or not it is all from the Lord at one time.

I'd just prefer to hear from you! And if you are particularly moved by one of the things that you read- it is speaking to you at that moment and you feel it is a rhema word- then by all means post! We want to know Lois. Your testimony. Your thoughts. Do you have children? Are you married? Where do you go to church? What has God done for you yesterday? This week? This year? What is speaking to you as your read your scriptures today? I think that is "What Jesus Would Do" with us. In prayer, I find Jesus more concerned with the condition of my heart, the relationships I'm in, ME... than with worldly matters.

We care about you and love to hear what YOU have to say.

He fills my mouth with laughter quite often. Especially when I see His creatures like the platypus. Or watching their antics, like squirrels fighting over nuts. I know this does not seem to be the joy of the Lord outwardly, yet He is their creator, and I appreciate Him for all of it.

YSIC, Angela

Angela... that was so sweet!

I assumed on my part that when you said, "Yes... there is a scripture for that." that you were agreeing about a "spirit of laughter." That is how it read to me....As well as the first line you posted it was a bit contridictory to the second by you saying "I think"...I read it to mean either / or and not really a stance in either direction....

That is why I posted what I did....

I was answering this question- and giving a scripture that seems to indicate that the Holy Spirit will fill our mouths with laughter. I also gave a personal testimony. I have also read and heard others whom I believe to be genuine say that when they had encounter with the Holy Spirit, they began to laugh. Derek Prince, a man who with the help of the Lord created a world wide ministry told of one such experience in a taped autobiography of his life (I own the tape- and ANYONE should try to get their hands on it because his life testimony is just amazing). On the night Mr. Prince was converted, He cried out to the Lord to be blessed. Suddenly, he felt the Lord's presence in the room. First Derek sobbed like a baby. After the crying ceased, he testifies that he began to laugh (being a distingushed Brit, this was very unlike his very formal and unemotional character). The next day, Derek wanted to find something in scripture to line up with what he experieced. The the Lord directed Derek to the verse in Job that I quoted earlier.

I have not developed a "doctorine" or researched the matter fully. I just simply believe what the word says, and what others testify, and what I experienced myself. Again... I think some people just laugh as a result of suggestion and it is just an emotional experience. But... there are others that are truthful. That is what I believe... what I think.

I have no idea what others are saying on the thread- I suppose that is why there is a loss in translation.

I never said anything about a "spirit of laughter" as that was never the question. I've read no scripture to date that I can remember that says anything about this.

So there is the confusion....The topic is about does a spirit of laughter exsist?

I assumed you read the posts....

Peace to ya...

Understood Godsloft ... thank you for your explanation about Sarah.

Everything is of God...laughter is from the pure joy of the Lord and nothing else.

Lois...I've been asking you to slow down. Larry was asked to slow down in the beginning and hardly kicked and screamed at all but you have plowed ahead.. It's honestly very frustrating. This is not a personal attack against you but what you do. I agree with JH and it's the same statement l made to you before.

To correct for the sake of the many isn't attacking. Get it out of your head. If someone wants to come on line and sell themselves and there works and l see something that might be a big stumbling block to many l'm going to speak up. It's not attacking. You can try to make it seem like that to justify your position l guess. But people as you know can be very fierce about their beliefs.

Women haters need to be spoken to firmly because it's the only language they know. I'm in the flesh in this but flesh l guess speaks to flesh. If someone needs to get out of the occult l'm going to bring it up.

Everythings not OK....We Prophesy about it and then people here tolorated it to the max? I don't get it. Do l nag about everything? No. I let lots roll off me. I've been refered to as the forum bitc_. I forgave it even though it was a personal attack. If we all just cozy up to each other and say everything is ok how will anybody know what is scriptural... ie occult..new age etc. And also many other things. True..Love is important but so is truth in Love.

I have manifested this uncontrollable laughter several times and it is quite an experience...I think it is validated by the release of tensions that comes with it...Pro 17:22 A merry heart doeth good [like] a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

I don't know a lot about the laughter movement thing because l didn't follow it except in a general sense.

The Holy Spirit probably touched a few people and others wanted it. God gladly gave it. But then they tried to set up tables in the court yard. Others wanted to build three houses. They wanted to turn a touch from the Lord into a circus movement and God obliged them.

The question remains. Was the spirit a spirit of laughter separate from the Joly Spirit? (Oops..l think l'll leave that spelling error in ) As l said above. I believe God allowed what happened. Whether he allowed a demonic spirit in or just let men make fools of themselves l don't know.

It might even be like seeking the Codes out without a calling. And then coming up with something really ridiculous and discrediting the movement. God want's us each to have a personal experience with the Holy Spirit. Not always jumping on everybody else's band wagon creating a movement. I've seen things in the codes but have trespassed to far in... Dean has been more then patient with me...God has been wanting to open up my eyes in away that l understand an receive. It's for me. I share it with you. But l also know it's possible to get off track. Anyone who's been fooled in the past is twice shy and is quick to sound the warning bell.

God used laughter and joy for good in some peoples lives. He uses the 'purpose movement' in some lives. He's always foiling the plans of the enemy...When a person has a truly seeking heart God steps in.

It's just is.

This is where my mentor and l clashed. Some people are very legalistic about what God can and can't do. I understand where they are coming from and why they stick to their guns...but experience has taught me differently and l will testify to it and l have.

Lois...people can be sincerely wrong. Planting love joy peace while spilling the magic beans all along the way. The enemy can work through us. Peter showed us how it's done. I've told you before l want to look at your words but you overwhelm us. The beans are sown with all the rest and the garden has quickly grown...Sorry...I don't know what else to say.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE. TIGHT BUT RIGHT! PRAY WITH ME THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO BRING IN THE BALANCE.

Father help us all l pray in Jesus name. Help us to understand just what to give and what not to give.

Many great men and women have struggled with this issue over the centuries l'm sure. But you know the answer to every man's question... so we ask you Father to reign us in. Make us effective not defective.

Help us not to be afraid to step out in faith and yet at the same time fear you. We have sincere hearts Lord. Show us where and when to plant. Nothing you sow will return void. You will even turn our mistakes around. So we give you praise and honor and glory for hearing and receiving sincere and earnest prayers...In Jesus name. amen

Love to you Lois....

I told everyone in my first responce to this thread where the Laughter gospel came from. It is Rodney Howard Browns ministry. He touches people or breathes on them and they fall down laughing. Here is a link.
Rodney Howard Brown

Miki, ...this post on laughter has been making me laugh a lot! This message from you made me laugh and cry! I'm not gonna ramble and I'll keep the next paragraph short.....if anyone wants to continue it they can jump onto my link - it is a lengthy one! This just confirms your first sentence up above!

My Children, Yield yourselves to Me. Learn to be sensitive to Me. Learn to sense My promptings, and My proddings, and My pullings upon your spirit. Learn to recognize My voice. Learn to recognize My touch. Learn to recognize when I am quickening you, and when I am wanting to prompt you, or lead you into a certain direction. Learn to discern when I am speaking, and when I am moving, and when I am coming to you. For I am wanting you to learn the difference. ......con't on link! You must learn to walk with Me everyday!.......Loey

I believe holy laughter is possible... There are many other things that happened that weren't written in the bible:

John 20:
30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
John 21:
25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

God laughs:
Psalms 2:4
"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh:--"

And he says we will laugh
Luke 6:21
Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.

Is this laughter only for when we get to heaven or will he allow us to experience some of heavens blessings now?
Answer: Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
As believers we are presently in heavenly places…

If people look drunk at times when they are in the Spirit (Acts 2:13-16) why can't they be filled with laughter, ether way to the world we look weird...
So even though I haven't experienced it yet, I don't deny that it’s very possible…

please tell me you aren't telling people this.

Dear: c-los medrano
If I wasn't telling anyone I wouldn't have posted it... Why are you asking me not to tell anyone my observations on this subject matter? maybe it will shed light or stir someone else to study more. I am also curious to know everyone else's biblical research on this subject. this is how we grow.

the day of Pentecost took place in Jerusalem.
Not all Jews accepted Jesus Christ.
you had 120 people that spoke in tongues (Acts 1:15) on that day.
The many that wanted to get involved were witness to that event but they were not saved until Acts 2:37.
Also, realize that there were many in Jerusalem that rejected Jesus Christ and mocked His teachings.

So to bring focus to that day this is what was said by those THAT WANTED TO BELIEVE and humbled themselves. They were not saved YET:
Acts 2:12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

these are the ones that had totally rejected Jesus Christ and called it all a mockery. There were many of them:
Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.


supporting scripture:
1 Cor 14:22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.
The people in Acts 2:12 were unbelievers at this point but wanted to know about Jesus Christ. They did not have the Holy Spirit in them. It's not until Acts 2:37 that they wanted to know what they needed to do to be saved and they were. As we know...it's not until you are saved that the Holy Spirit dwells in you.


I originally commented your post because you said the Holy Spirit can make one look drunk and used Acts to support that.

nice to meet you.
God Bless

Nice to meet you, Madefromclay. C-los, have you not heard the term, 'drunk in the spirit'? My legs have felt so wobbly I couldn't have walked a straight line if my life depended on it! That's where it came from, not because we were drunk on wine as accused, but drunk in the spirit. Yes, Madefromclay, we will look weird to the world. We are set apart, and a peculiar people. It's a good thing.

God bless, Angela

I understand now C-los. Thank you for explaining, and God bless you indeed.
I wouldn't say ALL those men who called the disciples drunk totally rejected Jesus Christ. I think it's very possible that some of them didn't even know that it was about Jesus Christ until Peter said it in -Acts 2:22, because the scripture itself doesn't identify if these are Jesus-rejecters or not. but if know of a research tool that makes this clear please let me know.
Just like those that mocked the disciples there are people that mock believers today and some of them honestly don't know what we're doing until we explain it to them.
Surely you know that a lot of us look weird when we're performing the acts of God... Ezekiel had to eat cow dung -Eze 4:25, Isaiah had to walk naked for 3 years Isaiah 20:2-4 and Jesus put spit and clay in a mans eyes John 9:6. Paul and Silas sang praises to God after they were beaten and thrown in Jail Acts 16:25, so It doesn't surprise me if the Holy Spirit would cause a believer to laugh to the point where they look silly because many times God does things in and through many of us that look silly too.
-1Cor 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
So even though I haven't experienced it yet, I don't deny that it’s very possible… If it was sinful I wouldn't believe it, but I haven't found a scripture that says it is.

This is a good discussion c-los, thanks for your response.
And thank you Angela, I see that you understood my reference.
God bless you both.

Madefromclay? Is that synonymous for Adam? I understood what you meant. There are many things that I have not experienced but do not deny the possibilities.

sojourner

I really like the way earthen vessel sounds but that's the name of a Christian band. I wanted something similar, something that said that I also am just a human beeing incapable of supernatural things by myself, but I can do all things through the grace the Lord God has poured into my soul, Jesus Christ. I like your tag name sojourner, it reminds me of Abraham, who built tents instead of a house because he was looking for a city whose builder and maker was God.
And I'm glad to see that you realize that it's posible too.