I know that many are aware of the Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms. J.R. Church from Prophecy in the news has written and spoke about this for years! This being the beginning of a new year I have been pondering this yesterday and today! I know that I have said before but I was fortunate to have taken a 16 week course under Dr. Church a few years ago. One of the things that I found interesting about the whole Prophetic theme through the Psalms was Psalms 107 corresponding to the year 2007.

For those that are not familar with this the Psalms are divided into 5 books.

Psalms 1-41 = Genesis Book
Psalms 42-72= Exodus Book
Psalms 73-89= Leviticus Book
Psalms 90-106 = Numbers Book
Psalms 107-150= Deuteronomy Book

One interesting fact is that Psalms is the 19 Book of the Bible from Genesis.When you count backwards from Revelations it is the 48 Book of the Bible!

Hence 1948 the year that Israel became a Nation, coincidence I think not! You have one of the Largest super signs in prophetic History and it points to the book of Psalms.

So Psalms being the 19th Book and each Psalm seems to correspond to each year of the 1900's and onward.

I am sure that many may be familiar with the concept. So if this concept is true, then we have just finished up the section that corresponds to the Numbers Book or the "Wilderness Experience"

What I find most interesting is that in Psalms 107 which corresponds to this year 2007 we find something very interesting in the Hebrew Text!
In the entire Old Testament you will find that the Hebrew Letter Nun is printed this way.


But 9 times in the Old Testament it is reversed or backwards! The 1st two times the Nuns are reversed are in the book of Numbers. The remaining seven are found in PSALMS 107.

The Nun it the 14th letter of the Hebrew Alphabet. I have heard that the Nun refers to downfall. It seems that these reversed Nuns may refer to some sort of divine judgement possibly implying a turning of the back?

What do you suppose this suggest? I find it very interesting that we have just concluded the section of scriptures corresponding to the Numbers or Wilderness experience. So in other words think of the wilderness experience when the children of Israel came out of Egypt. They sent the spies in at Kadesh Barnea into the Promised Land. You know the story because of unbelief they had to wander in the wilderness for 40 years; and only those under 20 would be allowed to enter the Promised Land.

Could it be possible that just as then that the Nation of Israel has been going through another wilderness experience since 1967/68. During the 6 day war the Nation of Israel was turning 20 years old. Something interesting happened during this time. The Israelies liberated East Jerusalem and gained control of the Temple Mount. Yet the very next day they gave it back up to the Moselms. So just as in the OT because of Unbelief they were caused to Wander.

Yet 40 years has passed, and we are now in 2007= Psalms 107 and the 7 final remaining revesed Nuns!

Is is possible that this will be connected to Gods Judgement on the World?

Lets take a look at the Reversed Nuns in the Scriptures:

The 1st Reversed Nun is found in Numbers chapter 10:35

Numbers 10:35

And it came to pass, when the ark set forward, that Moses said, Rise up, LORD, and let thine enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee flee before thee.

I believe that the reverse Nun is speaking of God's Divine Judgement on the enemy's of Israel. This could parallel Psalms 68 which say almost the very same thing:

Psalm 68

1Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.

Psalms 68 once again prophetic of 1968. God gave Israel Victory over their enemy's in the 6 Day War.

The next reversed Nun we find is in Numbers chapter 11:1

Numbers 11

And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.
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2 and the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the LORD, the fire was quenched.

[size="2"]This time it seems that God's Judgement is turned against God's chosen people: In every incidence or these reversed Nuns it seems to pertain to God's Judgement.

The mummuring and complaining that took place in the OT brought about the people being divided and turning against their leader. I believe that Moses was a type or symbolic of Christ, just as was Joseph in the scriptures. Over the last 40 years I believe Israel have seen a divided people. We can see that this bickering lead to the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. Many Israeli soldiers lost their lives by being attacked by suprise in the 1973 Yom Kippur war. The leaders have repeatedly negotiated and given up God's land to the Arabs. I think it is possible that they have been in the preverbial wilderness wandering for the past 40 years.

Finally the final 7 Reversed Nuns are in Psalms 107 vs 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 and verse 40.

Could this be a reference to Mystery Babylon being destroyed? Read vs 23-28

Psalm 107:23-28
23They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.
28Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.

I think this reconciles with scripture in Isaiah!

Isaiah 24:20
The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Read all of Isaiah chapters 24-27 with the end times in mind. I think it will enlighten. Chapter 27 speaks of Leviathan that crooked serpent being punished by God!

Psalms 104 verse 26 also speaks of the Leviathan in that it is playing in the sea. In my personal opinion this was a reference to the Tsunmi happening at the end of Dec 2004. I think it could be symbolic of the Beast rising out of the sea! As Isaiah 27 vs 1 speaks that Beast or Leviathan is punished.

The ninth and final backward Nun is found in at the beginning of verse 40 of Psalms 107.

40He poureth contempt upon princes, and causeth them to wander in the wilderness, where there is no way.

Coincidence that it is verse 40? I think not.


I think the refernece to these Reversed Nuns could be symbolic of the end and God's Judgement being poured out!

It is not for certain exactly the meaning of these Reversed Nuns. Yet I feel there is a reason why they appear only 9 times in the Hebrew Text! I would be very interested to know if anyone else has any input as to what these might mean.

I would also be curious if Shekel has done any research on this or been lead to search for any Bible Codes in any of these scriptures that contain these Reverse Nuns.

At any rate I feel that we are entering a new era, I believe the Messianic Kingdom. If the Psalms do correspond to the Torah then we are entering Deuteronomy. We like the Israelites are leaving the wilderness. I feel that we are at the edge of the Jordan River and at any moment will we be called to cross over into the Promised Land.

Your friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

Wow Val...this is awsome! I don't have the time right now to finish taking it in...but would you please post Churches Ps. 107 interpretation. I've been having a hard time finding it. Thanks!

Awsome!

Hey Miki I did the very same thing when I 1st was introduced to this! It really has been all over me in the past few days. Yes I will try to find all the notes. I know that I have the intrepretation of Psalms 107 from His book, "Hidden Prophecies in the Psalsm." As for the information about the Reversed Nun it was in my Notes from Meridian University. Is it ok to Post them? I am on my way to work right now so it will have to be tonight when I get home. Glad you found the subject intersting, I really feel that there is something to all of this.



Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming

Very awesome...!

Thank You Lord that You reveal hidden mysteries to Your prophets.l

Sure Val...post your notes...

A couple of years ago l posted Churches psalm message. 105 and 106 l believe?
I just need 107 now.

Nun of Atbash... It was strange for me to go into this area of the codes. It was a flood...
I thought l'd left it behind but maybe l will view it from a different lens now?

Ok I will get it posted later today.



Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

The only Poems l ever memorized in my life some 40 years ago l still remember.



It just came to mind when l read this Ps.



Tennyson---


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Alfred Tennyson (1809-1892), English poet often regarded as the chief representative of the Victorian age in poetry. Tennyson succeeded Wordsworth as Poet Laureate in 1850.

Alfred, Lord Tennyson was born on August 5, 1809 in Somersby, Lincolnshire. His father, George Clayton Tennyson, a clergyman and rector, suffered from depression and was notoriously absentminded. Alfred began to write poetry at an early age in the style of Lord Byron. After spending four unhappy years in school he was tutored at home. Tennyson then studied at Trinity College, Cambridge, where he joined the literary club 'The Apostles' and met Arthur Hallam, who became his closest friend. Tennyson published Poems, Chiefly Lyrical, in 1830, which included the popular "Mariana".
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Sorry for side tracking...but some things are coming full circle (for me) ...and l'm pondering. Notice that Tennyson Poems where also lyrical...



It reminds me of my son standing on the tip of a rock in the midst of the waves on Hawaii's shores...
calling for help...

If you find yourself in troubled waters...there is a name you can call on.

A name above every name

and a name that raises above the waves

that will carry you over your trouble like an ark to the rescue...

His name is Jesus.

Miki...

wow...

I keep getting this water theme... water... water... always water.

Songs that I sing.
Fasts that I partake in.
News that I hear.

Water....

Yes Miki thanks for sharing that I have had a few of those full circle moments here lately myself! Just confirmation of the Greatness of our God!

Julie you are in my prayers!
This verse is for you!

Revelation 22:17
17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Signet

Very interesting! Yes I read about your dream the other day and I was very moved by it!
Thanks for your input about the word teshuvah.

[quote]the reversed nun speaks of downfall and judgement and turning it
again the other way is when the people (Israel) return to God in Yeshua.[quote]

So you are saying that the reversed Nun speaks of "repentance" ? If so would you agree that it would have to be something "Major that happens!"

What I am trying to say do you think something takes place soon that will cause the Jews to repent and turn to the Messiah?

The reason I am asking is because many times in the Old Testament the Lord brought His hand of Judgement on the Children of Israel. Which in turned brought about repentence and turning back to God!

But with that said not every time in Scripture when this happened do we find a reversed Nun. So I would think that this would symbolizes a "Great Event" Do you see where I am going.

So in other words Judgement of some kind comes and the Jews realize that Jesus Christ, Yeshua is their Messiah repent and turn to HIM!

I just think that these 9 Reversed Nuns are connected to the End times and if the Psalms do correspond to the years of the 1900's and 2000's then we are possibly in for something to occur. Do not get me wrong, I am not saying the end is in 2007 nor am I saying that we are Raptured then but that there is a connection with it all. I feel that it certainly could be connected to the Jews turning to the Messiah. Or a possible Judgement on an Unbelieving world that eventually causes the Jews to turn to Him!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

YOU ARE ALMOST THERE! Lord Jesus You are the Living Water! Pour yourself on and in my precious friend! I love you sweetie!



Your friend in Christ,

Val



Messiahiscomng

The Nun seems to parallel Noah. He put 2 pairs of unclean and 7 pairs of clean animals on the ark. 7 and 2 (Genesis 7:2). It rained 40 days and 40 nights. The end of the age will be just like the times of Noah.



Noah begins with the letter "nun" and his name means "rest"



the 7 nuns in psalms (23-28) are divided 6 consecutively (about God's "works"---last verse implying "rest") and the 7th nun is 12 verses later, verse 40, the completion of the rain, or wilderness wandering. The flood lasted 150 days. There are 150 Psalms.



12 is the number of the tribes of Israel. The 7 pairs and 2 pairs suggest the Jews and Gentiles, I think (just as Peter dreamt of the unclean animals symbolizing the gentiles)















Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) falls on the 10th day of the 7th month (107?)



the goat for the Lord is sacrificed, and the scapegoat is sent out to the wilderness with the sins of the people confessed on it.



half of 68 is 34 + 1973 = 2007

Amen sister! Thanks for sharing this. I so agree with what you have said! Oh and the verse from the Lord is just icing on the cake! He is the True Revealer of all that is Hidden!

The Last verse in
Psalms 107 says:

43Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD

and

Daniel 12:10 says:

10Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Yes we will understand because the Lord will uncover the hidden things! He will like Matt 24 says give us meat in due season! Praise Be to God, for He ALONE is Worthy to be praised!

Thanks signet, I am so glad that you are back I sure missed you when you were gone!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming!













That is amazing! Is this something that you have searched out before or is it something the Lord just gave you? I am going to have to print your post out and check all of this out in detail! Thank you for sharing all of this with me, I am very excited about what you shared!



Your Friend in Christ,

Val

Messiahiscoming

Glory be to God. It was something the Lord gave me just now. I never knew anything about the backwards nun, but I have studied alot about Noah and various other things which the Holy Spirit simultaneously threw into my head like a tossed salad...yummy!


Manna from heaven!

God bless you, Signet and everyone

Joshua was the son of Nun. He took 12 stones in the middle of the dry bed of the Jordan when crossing over into the promised land on dry ground



Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.



Rev 2:17 notice the 2 and 7?



Wow! what is today's date? 1/2/07

Yes Yes! He is preparing a table before us! I pray that all would comd and dine!





Miki here is JR Church's Prophecy of Psalms 107: I apoligize that I did not scan this better. After the 1st page you will have to scroll down and find the rest at the bottom.



















I will try and find my syllabus with the Notes concerning the Nun and get them scanned later.



Your Friend in Christ,

Val

Messiahiscoming

Val



Messiahiscoming

Nun means "a fish" or "posterity" and is equal to 50 as a Hebrew letter.

http://net.bible.org/strong.php?id=05126



50 is the number of Jubilee and Pentecost. Noah is a symbol of the Holy Spirit. Moses represents the "letter" of the law, Joshua as the "spirit" of the law. Jerusalem of bondage vs Jerusalem of freedom.





I was thinking the story of Jonah might apply to these Psalms as well (the part about the waves and men being fearful)



I wonder about the 153 fishes in John 21:11 (feed my sheep)

Check this out. At the bottom, they quote Psalm 72 (another occurrence of 7 and 2)!



http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/U...et/Nun/nun.html

Morning has broken, like the first morning
Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning
Praise for the springing fresh from the world

Sweet the rain's new fall, sunlit from heaven
Like the first dewfall, on the first grass
Praise for the sweetness of the wet garden
Sprung in completeness where his feet pass

Mine is the sunlight, mine is the morning
Born of the one light, Eden saw play
Praise with elation, praise every morning
God's recreation of the new day

I find that very interesting that the Nun has a value of 50! I did not not that! Concerning the 153 fish this has always intrigued me. As a matter of fact I was just talking to Dani on the phone a couple of days ago and mentioned this very thing! Signet just another revealing! I cannot believe what the verse said but then the whole address thing as well! Isnt He wonderful! We give you all glory and honor for all that you do Lord!



Your Friend in Christ,

Val

Messiahiscoming

Val ... as you noted in your opening post, the 150 psalms are divided into 5 books.

Psalms 90-106 are called the "Numbers" book of psalms.
Here is wisdom ...in order to "count" the name of the beast, numbers are used.

90+91+92+93+94+95+96+97+98+99+100+101+102+103+104+105+106 = 1666
Coincidence?

The 144 thousand that immediately follow the numbering of the beast sing a "new song"(that is not understood) and in David's Psalm 144, he also sings a "new song".

In that David is "the key", his "new" song added to the 150 would result in ... 151
The following are examples of simple English gematria where a=1 ... z=26


JESUS CHRIST = 151

A SONG OF JESUS = 151
A SONG OF SONGS = 151

THE CITY OF DAVID = 151
THE TEMPLE OF GOD = 151

The Hebrew title for the Book of Psalms is ... Book of Praises.

BOOK OF PRAISES = 151

The victors over the image, mark and NUMBER of the beast sing the song of ... Moses and the Lamb.

MOSES AND THE LAMB = 151

I figured out how 153 fishes ties in. I think the 153 fishes represents the apostles "fishing for men"



6 is the number of man and the number of days of God's work. There are 6 verses where "nun" (meaning "fish" or "posterity") appears:



Psalm 107:23-28
23They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.
28Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.





add 23+24+25+26+27+28 and what do you get? (I discovered this last night after I logged off the internet)



153 is a "triangle" number by adding 1+2+3...+14+15+16+17 consecutively; therefore it is the 17th triangular number. From Psalm 107!



666 is also a triangular number. It's the 36th triangular number.

P.S.

23 + 28 = 51

24 + 27 = 51

25 + 26 = 51

verse 28 He bringeth them out of their distresses like fish in a net!

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is way to cool! I am amazed at the depthness of Our God!


Romans 11:33

33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

I am just amazed at how one opens one door and we enter a cavern with 100's of more rooms! I just cannot even comprehend what the Lord truly has prepared for those that love him!


1 Cor. 2:9
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

It is just so amazing the way He reveals so much! Yet we have not even seen Him in ALL HIS GLORY! Can you just imagine the Day we stand face to face, or probably more like face to His feet and see Him in His Fullness! What a day that will be. All Praise and Glory to You alone Oh Lord! For only You are worthy of our Praise! Show us your Glory Father!


Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

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Wow! I am going to have to chew on this one today! So many priceless jewels! I just looked up the 17th letter (because of the 17th triangle) of the Hebrew alphabet it is a Peh, meaning mouth. The letter has a value of 80. I just looked at Rev. chapter 17 it begins reading :


Revelation 17
1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

MYSTERY BABYLON! It seems that this has repeatedly came up with me over the past year!

The dream I had about the flying Angel and Babylon about to be destroyed! And remember the vision I had with the gestapo boots and the scripture the Lord gave me in Jeremiah 51:6-8!

This is also what I alluded to in the 1st of this thread about the verses in Psalms 107 with the reversed Nuns being possibly connected to the destruction of Mystery Babylon!

So I just grabbed my Mystery of the Menorah book. JR Church also speaks about Peh 17th letter being linked with Rev 17th. Listen to what he says: Remember Peh means mouth:

"In Revelation 17, we find the ultimate conclusion to "humanity and civilization" Mystery Babylon. The term Babylon or Babel refers to the powers of speech. This mystery, which is about to fall under the final judgement of God takes us back to the tower of Babel, when all men spoke only one language.....It is most fitting that the story of the speech concludes in the this remarkable chapter which corresponds to the "peh", the symbol of speech and silence!"

That is amazing! He certainly tells us he declares the end from the beginning!

Titus is the 17th Book of the Bible it speaks of mouths being stopped of those who do not teach the truth! False Doctrines.

Very interesting where this has lead. I have to run and take care of wedding plans. Only 3 more days until my daughter gets married! I could use all the prayers I can get. The enemy has sure been attacking my family with sickness, and there just is not time to be sick!




Love ya guys,
Thanks for study!
Val

Messiahiscoming





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Here is something I discovered while playing around with numbers about a couple of years ago.


Psalm 91 is the psalm about God putting angels in charge of us. 91 is the 13th triangle number.


The Hebrew word for "angel" is malak and has a gamatria value of 91 (m+l+a+k)

666 is the number of "exalted man" (like Nimrod)

..666 - 91
=575 - 91
=484 - 91
=393 - 91
=302 - 91
=211 - 91
=120 - 91
= 29 - 91
= -62 - 91
= -153

When I discovered this, I thought of Jacob's vision of the ladder reaching to heaven where the angels ascended and descended. He wrestled with the Angel of the Lord for a blessing and overcame Him, resulting in a "new name" given to him....Israel. (refer to Revelation 2:17 mentioned earlier)

The 153 being a negative number represents fishes under water (to me) and also "baptism". This number equation represents "exalted man" humbling himself (water baptism)

This equation is then reversed to show how God will "lift us up" when we humble ourselves:

153 - 91
= 62 - 91
= -29 - 91
=-120 -91
=-211 -91
[truncated]
=-666

(satan, or "exalted man" is cast into the abyss by the angel with a great chain. Our flesh "dies" and we become a new creation with a "new name")



You probably won't find this written in any book. The Holy Spirit showed it to me, Glory be to God.

I think (just my idea) this also ties into my theory about the Mason Dixon Line. It is a boundary marked by stones. 244 to be precise (1 stone for every mile...244 miles total)


The next number beyond -153 would be -244



Psalm 91:11-12
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways; 12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.


This ties into alot of other things written in the bible. I mentioned in another thread the connection between the Mene Mene Tekel code and the MDL. The marker stones are marked "M" and "P" (Medes and Persians)

Darius (Cyrus) was 62 when he began to reign. That is the number between 29 and 153. Cyrus was a type of Jesus Christ and the name Cyrus actually means "christ"

If Jesus was born between 4-5 B.C. and was age 30 at the time he began His ministry, and died at between the ages 33-34, then His crucifixion would have occurred around 29 A.D.

count from 5 B.C.....4-3-2-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29 (33 years)

The "whitehouse" "reflecting pool" and "obelisk" seem to coincide with the "head facing west" "Mason Dixon Line" and "Northern panhandle"


The "Washington Monument" is 555 feet tall, which multiplied by 12 = 6660 inches= exalted man (It is a monument to "The Father of our country" just like Nimrod built a tower that reaches to heaven to "make a name for himself")

But those who humble themselves (reflecting pool) and overcome will be given a white stone with a "new name" written on it.


P.S. the numbers from 23 to 28, if you separate the 20's from the numbers in the 1' place, you get:

20 x 6 = 120 (average age of man after flood)

3+4+5+6+7+8 = 33 (age of Jesus when sacrificed on the cross)

total = 153

Isaiah 45


1Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

2I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

3And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

4For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Daniel chapter 5



5:31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.



5-3-1



Here is a commentary on Isaiah 45 which parallels the discussion in this thread

Cool! Praise Jesus!

The Number of the Sons of God!

The letters that spell out Beni Ha Elohim in Hebrew equal 153.




Signet now that is just way to cool! I am so excited. That makes perfect sence. I have heard so many interpretations of the 153 and they could fit, but this one takes the prize! Wow, did you just get that from the Lord? That is it that it so cool! I know that there are multiple layers and other meanings but this is the Kicker! This so sets well in my spirit! WOOHOO!


Thank you Jesus!
Val
Messiahiscoming

Romans 8:19

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

(angel=malak) 91 x 9 = 819

819 - 666 = 153

malak appears twice in the last book of the old testament, Malachi. Malachi was written 400 years before John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness to make straight paths for Jesus (calling for the baptism of repentence)


400 is the number of years of Hebrew slavery in Egypt and is a multiple of 40 which is inherently related to "wilderness" (and temptation)


I found this article to be pretty interesting
http://latter-rain.com/escha/manifestsons.htm

where is it?

a matter must be established by two or three witnesses!

What was my response to Val's question after my first post in this thread?

"Glory be to God"

What is the first post in "The Fishes"? (I have not read this post until you pointed it out, honestly)

Look at the time stamp (2:44PM) and read my last few posts in here about the Mason Dixon Line (Mary-land---West "Virginia"?...the MDL runs along Maryland for 244 miles between Maryland and Pennsylvania---244PM)

I did a search of the phrase I just mentioned (GBTG) and counted 27 total occurrences on this board (remember the 2 and 7?). It was 24 before I brought attention to it. My first "gtbg" was the 23rd. 23 is the number for restoration (as in 2300 evenings and mornings) as in Psalm 23:6 "And I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever. Amen"

More 7's and 2's!!!



In English:

G=7

B=2

T=20

G=7



I wonder what that whole phrase adds to in Greek or Hebrew?



Bless the Lord, O my soul!

Gimmel=3

Beth=2

Tet=9

Gimmel=3



total=17 (153 is 17th triangle number)



full meaning of TET

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/U...et/Tet/tet.html

(this corresponds with the commentary of Isaiah 45 mentioned earlier in this thread, and the basic idea behind numbers 23-28, that God allows calamity(evil) for the purpose of drawing us to Him in repentence)

Isaiah 45:6-7

6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Hi Signet,

I too recall that the gematria of the Sons of God sums at 153, but there is an error in the example you provided.

Dalet is 4 not 40

Augustine noted that the sum of the numbers 1 to 17 sum at 153. He did not note this, but if you continue the
count to 26 (A to Z) the total is 351.

If you "cast your eyes" at this number from the same side that Jesus instructed the net be cast, ie the right side, this being the same side that Hebrew is read from, you will perceive ... 153

The Bible was written in three languages ... Aramaic Hebrew and Greek.

ARAMAIC HEBREW GREEK = 153
A NUMBERING SIGN = 153
SIGN OF WISDOM = 153

MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL = 153
THE KINGDOM OF GOD = 153

That was really interesting Signet. Thank you.

Sorry l haven't been back on the string to thank you Val for posting Church's works...I've been reading peoples thoughts but l was left behind in the dust. Much l can't relate to. But l think l finally realized something. God is speaking to me in away l can understand. That God of ours! He sure knows how to multi-task! He speaks to one in a certain way and another in a different way, adding dimension, individual understanding and richness of meaning. Thanks God!

I haven't even tackled nun yet...but l tackled Ps 107. I started it on another string called the noise of the soul...I drifted there and remembered other conversations from other strings and times.




This brought me back to the Hanukkah storm in my area....Do you remember? Here is a quote from that string:



God is still working with me in this area. Taking something as broadly symbolic as a storm and turning it into a word for today .... for individual and corporate instruction.

I had to leave the house yesterday because my mind was so full of everything. I thought l would go the mall and spend a gift card. I knew that would bring me down but also give me a chance to be alone as it was a long drive.

As l contemplated all we talked about and especially about how storms correct and enable l believe God gave me a sign of confirmation. With out drawing this out (because l could fill the page with my thoughts) l'll give it in a nut shell. If you want to know where my conclusions come from reread this string and the Pacific Northwest Storm under current events.

Not everyone walking in the light has the power. But some are set apart. Their light is burning and there will be just enough oil to take them through the darkness. Many Jacobs.

It had been about a 1/2 hour drive and l was concluding my thinking...Ahead of me l could see a sign hanging from an over pass on the road...As l got closer l could see that it said "John 3:16" on it.

Then l began to realize something.......!!

The song on the radio was playing the song! Jaci Velasquez. God So Loved The World!
Just as l passed under the banner the chorus played;



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It was a Holy Spirit moment! His banner over me is love.
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There's a war in the heavenlies. Daniels answer was delayed but his power was restored as the angel returned with the message. We wait on God for his timing in things and we pray in obedience. Israel may look dark. Your neighbor may look dark... but God's angels are waging a war for us. Just because others can't see your light YET doesn't mean your not saved. Doesn't mean your not set a part for God's purposes....

There is another storm coming...it will both enable and correct.

Maybe the United States of America needs correction. I know some Elijah's do... especially when we come out our caves and see the raging around us. But God speaks in spite of the clamour and clanging...in a still small voice. To each individual in a way they can understand personally.

I believe the storm that's our correction and downfall will enable Israel..They will get out of the boat and God will keep them from going under when they cry out SAVE ME LORD!

We long for those days and dread those days. But we just remember...His banner over me is Love.

When l googled what does his banner over me is love mean? I came up with this.
It was perfect!


http://www.allaboutprayer.org/gods-banner.htm

Okay, this might be hard to follow but is something I just now noticed. Maybe this whole "nun" thing has to do with keeping the Sabbath day holy. I mentioned how the story of Noah ties in to this, his name meaning "rest" (there were "8" people on the ark, rather than just "7"). This also has to do with the 153 fishes in John 21:11 and Peter being "naked" and jumping off the boat, as mentioned in "The Fishes" thread dealing with the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC changed the Sabbath to Sunday allegedly without any scriptural approval.



Since the number value of nun is 50 and ties to Jubilee and Pentecost, it would stand to reason that it more importantly has to do with 7 sabbaths and the gift of the Holy Spirit which was a type of Jubilee (7 weeks times 7 plus one day = 50)



Pentecost occurs 50 days after the evening of passover. The bible has always shown us that a new day begins at dusk, not dawn (i.e. 2300 evenings and mornings...evening THEN morning) Pentecost is literally "the restoration of the temple" as evidenced in Acts.



Pentecost occurred on a SUNDAY! That day 3000 souls were saved. It was also an "antithesis" of the Tower of Babel. People were gathered, rather than scattered (153 fishes were "gathered" and yet the net was not broken)



This represents the "first day of God's work" when the world was in darkness(chaos) and God's Spirit moved over the waters of the deep. This is the day God made "light". There was evening and there was morning, the First day of Pentecost! Tongues of fire=The Word made manifest=Let There Be Light!.





The third time Jesus appeared to the apostles, he was on the bank frying fishes! Look at the time stamp on this post (1:07 PM) Psalms 107?



(source)



In The Beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.



This is the banner of Love! This is the day that God hath made, let us rejoice in it!

Here is a good overview of Pentecost in the book of Acts, as a guideline.



http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/cia/cia_01.htm

I think John 21 is a picture of the prophet Jonah as he relates to Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. Peter is another symbol of how Jonah was "taken where he did not want to go" because Jesus refers to him as "Peter, son of Jonas"



Jonas means "dove" and is yet another symbol of the Holy Spirit.



There are 5 disciples present in this story. Jonah is described as the fifth minor prophet. Jonas appears 13 times in the New Testament, where the 4 times referring to Peter appear in John 21, the other 9 refer to Jonah the prophet. That is possibly how Psalm 107 ties into Jonah and the great fish which ties into the 153 great fishes.



Peter was the preacher at Pentecost which was another "type" of Jonah preaching to Ninevah. Pete jumped overboard just as Jonah was thrown overboard. Halelujah, "feed my lambs" Peter!

Here is where I mentioned Jonah in this thread.

This is a great thread! This should be pinned to the top of the board. How do you do that? Does the moderator have to do it?

This is a forum and and you are having a chance to discuss. But others find it confusing and hard to follow. No wonder Jesus taught in a simple matter.

I did bring up 7-7-7 because Shekel made me think about it when he referred to the two periods of 7.. (Rachel and Leah) (Joseph's 7 year plenty and 7 year drought)

He talked about a third seven by dividing the middle of the first 7 (at 3 1/2 years) to the middle of the second 7... (at 3 1/2 years) thus three 7's. However what he is talking about is different than what it made me think about. He was being much more precise. I'm only thinking symbolically about a day because in actuality the day of the Lord is longer than a day.

In reality a day begins at midnight in darkness. A period of light is in the middle and it ends again in darkness. Of course you have to add the season factor in to determine the length of the day.

This isn't what Shekel was talking about but his reasoning made this come to mind for me.

I wondered if the end-times would begin this way...in darkness...then things seem to get better as the antichrist emerges but all ends in darkness until the Lords coming.

It doesn't have anything to do with the number of days but only of 3 periods..

dark light dark.

Anyway it side tracts.

I believe God has been speaking to me about this over a period of months and years.

There is a tempest coming to correct and enable...The power is going to go out but God's protected work will continue. Remember it's not by might nor by power but by my Spirit saith the Lord.

I believe this storm of correction will enable...Jacob or better said "All who call on the name of the Lord".

I believe the coming wave will in fact knock the mask off many. Just like in my son's scuba incident. The mask is just an outward protection. Only the name of the Lord will save in those days.

I believe what God has been saying to me is that the light of the lamp will be miraculously maintained in those days according to Gods purpose. I believe the the power outage will be symbolic and literal. I believe it will be sporadic as it was in the Hanukkah storm. Some will have it some won't. Those with the candle lit will be hidden away.

I'll stop now because l know l'm loosing some. Probably only a few know what l'm saying because perhaps you've followed the posts on this forum over the years. God has made this clearer to me as the days and months go on. I guess you could say he's bringing it into focus. Because he's about to focus.

I believe Psalm 107 speaks of this. Only for this coming year? I don't know but God has caused me to focus here and at least for me gave a dramatic sign following. In fact it was even a literal sign. His banner over me is love. John 3:16... Even the banner sign through Shekel. THE GREAT BANNER SIGN... not just a little one seen on an overpass on a highway. (pass over)

Funny... I feel a certain melancholy over the whole thing...these last few days. I understand clearer and have grown to where l think l can actually deliver a message in away that can be recieved and yet l feel a sadness...never the less--hang on!

who was that directed to, Miki?

This has been a fascinating thread, but I'm coming from another field so to speak, so that it is a lot to digest. You guys are on to something, seems rather cryptic. But God is glorified, and we are enlightened...somewhat. There is a lot of depth and breadth here.

I've been reading a lot of posts and dreams/visions/prophecies about the 17th of March. There's that # 17 again. There is almost a feeling of hysteria associated with it, apocalyptic in nature. At least we'll be able to watch and see on that one. Nevertheless, It is prudent to be diligent in our personal walks and keep the oil in our burning lamps. These are exciting days. Thanks for the probing insight that you're providing.

I especially like the 153 being the sons of God, that was indeed edifying.

Yes I too found the whole 153 and the sons of God very exciting! I pm shekel a while back to see if he had done any research concerning these reversed Nuns. He had not but sounded like that he was going to seek the Lord about them. I am hoping that the Lord will open up something here, as I too feel that there is something to all of this!



May the Lord give us eyes to see and ears to hear! That He might lead us into wisdom and truth as we continue to seek His face!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming

[quote name='calvin' date='Jan 3 2007, 01:12 AM' post='97646'] Val ... as you noted in your opening post, the 150 psalms are divided into 5 books.

Psalms 90-106 are called the "Numbers" book of psalms.
Here is wisdom ...in order to "count" the name of the beast, numbers are used.

90+91+92+93+94+95+96+97+98+99+100+101+102+103+104+105+106 = 1666
Coincidence?

The 144 thousand that immediately follow the numbering of the beast sing a "new song"(that is not understood) and in David's Psalm 144, he also sings a "new song".

In that David is "the key", his "new" song added to the 150 would result in ... 151
The following are examples of simple English gematria where a=1 ... z=26


JESUS CHRIST = 151

A SONG OF JESUS = 151
A SONG OF SONGS = 151

THE CITY OF DAVID = 151
THE TEMPLE OF GOD = 151

The Hebrew title for the Book of Psalms is ... Book of Praises.

BOOK OF PRAISES = 151

The victors over the image, mark and NUMBER of the beast sing the song of ... Moses and the Lamb.

MOSES AND THE LAMB = 151

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I just went back through this whole thread and found a few things that the Lord has allowed me to see! When I started this thread I was right in the middle of decorating and getting things ready for my daughters wedding. Then afterwards I was resting from the wedding. Tonight however I felt I needed to re-post a few things that some had posted on the thread. The Lord has opened my eyes to see what these members were sharing and I cannot help but point them out.


1st of all Calvin what you pointed out here is truly amazing. For those that may not understand as I did not at 1st look at Rev. 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

He arrives at 1666 by adding all the numbers books 90-106 = Rev 13:18

Then the very next chapter in Rev. is 14! Speaking of the 144,000 and how that they sing a new song!

Now Calvin says to take note that Pslams 144 David also sings a new song!

Calvin this is truly amazing! Thank you Lord for opening my eyes to see the truth here!




Please bare with me as I have found many more jewels here in this thread that certainly merit repeating. Sorry I am sure others got this the 1st go around but I am a little slow!


Of course Signet this worth repeating! I was so blown away by the 153=Sons of God!



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quote name='signet' date='Jan 3 2007, 12:29 PM' post='97686'] The Number of the Sons of God!

The letters that spell out Beni Ha Elohim in Hebrew equal 153.

I'll have to come back to this...I can't remember what the
individual names of the Hebrew numbers are...only some...

bet/house/temple/2

nun/fish/prosperity/posterity/perpetuation/inheritance/50

yud/ /10

hey/ /5

aleph/source/God/1

lamed/tower/wisdom/30

hey/ /5

yud/ /10

dalet/door/open/40
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153 [/quote]

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This is amazing! And then to top it off what Calvin came back and pointed out! At 1st I thought oh man it does not add up to 153 but then Calvin points out the whole 351 thing and walaw! Just as Jesus told Peter to cast the net to the Right Side of the Ship!

Take a look again!

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[quote][/quote]Hi Signet,

I too recall that the gematria of the Sons of God sums at 153, but there is an error in the example you provided.

Dalet is 4 not 40

Augustine noted that the sum of the numbers 1 to 17 sum at 153. He did not note this, but if you continue the
count to 26 (A to Z) the total is 351.

If you "cast your eyes" at this number from the same side that Jesus instructed the net be cast, ie the right side, this being the same side that Hebrew is read from, you will perceive ... 153

The Bible was written in three languages ... Aramaic Hebrew and Greek.

ARAMAIC HEBREW GREEK = 153
A NUMBERING SIGN = 153
SIGN OF WISDOM = 153

MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL = 153
THE KINGDOM OF GOD = 153[quote][/quote]

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MMDD11 I was excited to remember how the 153 got connected here!



[quote][/quote]I figured out how 153 fishes ties in. I think the 153 fishes represents the apostles "fishing for men"


6 is the number of man and the number of days of God's work. There are 6 verses where "nun" (meaning "fish" or "posterity") appears:



Psalm 107:23-28
23They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.
28Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.


add 23+24+25+26+27+28 and what do you get? (I discovered this last night after I logged off the internet)


153 is a "triangle" number by adding 1+2+3...+14+15+16+17 consecutively; therefore it is the 17th triangular number. From Psalm 107!

666 is also a triangular number. It's the 36th triangular number.

P.S.

23 + 28 = 51

24 + 27 = 51

25 + 26 = 51

verse 28 He bringeth them out of their distresses like fish in a net!

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[quote][/quote]Wow! I am going to have to chew on this one today! So many priceless jewels! I just looked up the 17th letter (because of the 17th triangle) of the Hebrew alphabet it is a Peh, meaning mouth. The letter has a value of 80. I just looked at Rev. chapter 17 it begins reading :


Revelation 17
1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

MYSTERY BABYLON! It seems that this has repeatedly came up with me over the past year!

The dream I had about the flying Angel and Babylon about to be destroyed! And remember the vision I had with the gestapo boots and the scripture the Lord gave me in Jeremiah 51:6-8!

This is also what I alluded to in the 1st of this thread about the verses in Psalms 107 with the reversed Nuns being possibly connected to the destruction of Mystery Babylon!

So I just grabbed my Mystery of the Menorah book. JR Church also speaks about Peh 17th letter being linked with Rev 17th. Listen to what he says: Remember Peh means mouth:

"In Revelation 17, we find the ultimate conclusion to "humanity and civilization" Mystery Babylon. The term Babylon or Babel refers to the powers of speech. This mystery, which is about to fall under the final judgement of God takes us back to the tower of Babel, when all men spoke only one language.....It is most fitting that the story of the speech concludes in the this remarkable chapter which corresponds to the "peh", the symbol of speech and silence!"

That is amazing! He certainly tells us he declares the end from the beginning!

Titus is the 17th Book of the Bible it speaks of mouths being stopped of those who do not teach the truth! False Doctrines.[quote][/quote]




Signet I was amazed when I went back through and found this piece of meat to chew on!


[quote][/quote]JR Church also put out a Book called "The Mystery of the Menorah", I
haven't really gotten into it, except that it points out something else
peculiar like the backwards NUN...Torah is written backwards also...?

Speaking of Numbers 1:1-4, in the first paragraph at 50 skip intervals.
And again in Deuteronomy 1:5-8 at intervals of 49. It goes on to
identify 50 as transcendent or from above, God, and 49 as representing
humanity.

This is in discussion of the 'Menorah' theme running through Torah.


Genesis-Exodus / Leviticus / Numbers-Deutoeronomy



In a picture is drawn of a 5 prong Menorah, sorry I can't do that, and
it is Torah/The Word two chapters on each side of Leviticus. Just make a
Menorah out of these Chapters with Leviticus in the center. The backwards
Torah is in the right hand prongs...looking at the center book/prong of Torah.
Leviticus/Laws of the Priests...Yeshua, Our High Priest...

In the first verse of Leviticus is Yahweh encoded in 8 letter intervals
and it states that eight is one more than perfection in man, which
is seven, and eight represents deity/God's transcendance.

I'll have to return to this.


Check this out ...in the Book of Numbers, since this is where the
other nuns are...I am drawn to 1:53, however.

"But the Levites shall pitch round about the tabernacle of the testimony, that there be no wrath upon the congregation fo the children of Israel:and the Levites shall keep the charge of the tabernacle of the
testimony."

From the number recognition, it also makes me think of Isaiah 53:1

"Who hath believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the
Lord been revealed?"

the next two...paragraphs are incredible...

Numbers 11 speaks of an impartation to the seventy elders and at
v11:25

"And the Lord came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: an it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease."

v11:26

"But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.

from The Exhaustive Dictionary of Bible Names

Eldad means whom God loves/friend of God
Medad means love/a measurer

Mede means extended of the Lord/a measure/garment from
Madia which means middle/what is enough


blessings,
signet

this seems to touch on MMDDLL's Medes/Persia[quote][/quote]


I was blown away by the verse in Numbers 1:53


But the Levites shall pitch round about the tabernacle of testimony, that there be no wrath upon the congreagation of the children of Israel: and the Levites shall keep the charge of the tabernacle of testimony.


1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Revelation 1:6
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Sons of God=153 Numbers 1:53 Priests=NO WRATH! Notice He does not promise that we would not have tribulation but NO WRATH! This is another scripture to add to my Pre-Wrath Rapture!

Who are the Sons of God!

1. John 1:12
   But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
   John 1:11-13 (in Context) John 1 (Whole Chapter)
2. Acts 2:17
   And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
   Acts 2:16-18 (in Context) Acts 2 (Whole Chapter)
3. Romans 8:14
   For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
   Romans 8:13-15 (in Context) Romans 8 (Whole Chapter)
4. Romans 8:19
   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
   Romans 8:18-20 (in Context) Romans 8 (Whole Chapter)
5. Galatians 4:6
   And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
   Galatians 4:5-7 (in Context) Galatians 4 (Whole Chapter)
6. Philippians 2:15
   That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
   Philippians 2:14-16 (in Context) Philippians 2 (Whole Chapter)
7. Hebrews 12:7
   If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
   Hebrews 12:6-8 (in Context) Hebrews 12 (Whole Chapter)
8. 1 John 3:1
   Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
   1 John 3:1-3 (in Context) 1 John 3 (Whole Chapter)
9. 1 John 3:2
   Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is

I also enjoyed the Menorah thing you pointed out Signet! Once again the focus always points to Jesus as the Light/ Our High Priest as in Leviticus He is the servant lamp of the Menorah! I find it interesting that the lamps always point inward, like I said pointing to the servant lamp in the middle. So you have Gen. Exodus looking to (Leviticus/servant lamp/High Priest/Jesus/) Then you have Numbers facing back to or looking to Levitucs and Deut. I find it very intriguing that just as we have the two inverted Nuns or backward Nun in Numbers that the Book of Numbers also looks back to Lev. in the Menorah Picture! Whew that is much to chew on!


Hey I had this thought this morning before my eyes every opened! This year on July the 7th the date will be 07/07/07! That is way to cool! Wow I looked up the 7th verse in Psalms 107 listen to what it says:


"And he led them forth by the right way, that they might go to a city of habitation!



Signet I will have to pick back up tomorrow concerning the site you lead me too. I am kind of overwhelmed tonight by all that the Lord has opened up to me, and it is rather late!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahisocming

[quote name='signet' date='Jan 12 2007, 08:19 PM' post='98804']
Psalm 107:23-26

speaking of the deep...


"They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great water"

" These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep."

"For He commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the
waves."

"They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths, their soul is melted becaue of trouble."



then...Isaiah 57:20.21

"But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt."

"There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked."

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Yes Signet speaking of DEEP!


1 Corinthians 2:10
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

Thank you Jesus! We give all the Glory and All the Honour for letting us see your Marvelous Wonders in the DEEP! Father I pray that you would take us deeper! And then when we get there take us DEEPER STILL!



Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming

DEEP!



John in revelation describes God's voice as mighty rushing waters:

(a lampstand<candlestick> is a menorah)

1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
1:14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire;
1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.
1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. http://www.godrules.net/library/kjvpic/kjvrev1.htm

Ezekiel 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice [was] like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjveze43.htm#2

[quote name='mmddll' date='Jan 20 2007, 10:45 PM' post='99531'] DEEP!



John in revelation describes God's voice as mighty rushing waters:

(a lampstand<candlestick> is a menorah)

1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
1:14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire;
1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.
1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. http://www.godrules.net/library/kjvpic/kjvrev1.htm

Ezekiel 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice [was] like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjveze43.htm#2





I am seeing a connection with the scripture you have posted/ Psalm 107 22-29/ Rev 13: The beast rising up out of the sea and many others. The common theme is water which reminded me of the thread that I started almost a year ago.



http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...=5518&st=25



I was reminded that the Mem the 13th Letter of the Hebrew alphabet is for water! The ancient form of the mem looks like a wave! The 13th Book of Rev. speaks of the Beast Rising up out of the sea! Its gematria is 40. Like I said it the letter for water, and also "revealed and concealed" Ah ha back to the revealing of the deep things of God. Here are a few post from the thread that I see a connection with what we have been discussing.




Hallah qoute:

Just adding the following for consideration. Don't know if it means anything or not.





mem=40=water=massive over power, chaos
bet=2=tent/house=household in, into



Fountain of Wisdom

The mem, the letter of "water" (mayim) symbolizes the fountain of the Divine Wisdom of Torah. Just as the waters of a physical fountain (spring) ascend from their unknown subterranean source (the secret of the abyss in the account of Creation) to reveal themselves on earth, so does the fountain of wisdom express the power of flow from the superconscious source. In the terminology of Kabbalah, this flow is from keter ("crown") to chochmah ("wisdom"). The stream is symbolized in Proverbs as "the flowing stream, the source of wisdom."

Water - a parable for Torah.



QUOTE(Roxygal @ Apr 28 2006, 10:07 AM)Don't know if this means anything, but I had a dream last night...

I saw a huge wave as it was breaking... in the break there was Hebrew writing (I can't read Hebrew) and the number 42... after each sentence.

There were 3 rows of sentences.

Under that there was something written in French...the only word I saw was C'est 42.

Then I heard a voice... the wave is coming.

Then I woke up.

I have absolutely no idea what this means... anyone have a clue?

Many Blessings!
Love, Lisa [quote name='~veronique~' date='May 2 2006, 01:50 PM' post='58940']



the WAVE IS COMING:...................BIRTH PAINS?
[/quote] These were just some connections I seen as I was pondering the deep and the water verses![/color] [color="#000000"]Your Friend in Christ,ValMessiahiscoming