If I hadn't experienced this myself, I would think it was a bit out there.........


I took my son to a new Orthodontist. I kid you not.......... they check their patients in by them putting thier finger on a pad,to identify their fingerprint, telling the receptionist that you are there or that you are leaving.

I am not sure If I will let my son do this. Wonder if they have a fanatical religious clause exempting the patient from checking in that way?????? I mean........ the receptionist is RIGHT THERE, IT IS SOOOOOOOO EASY TO SAY, "HEY, i AM HERE NOW"

and to think.......... we live in a po dunk type of town....

this scares me a bit.

They seem to start testing their new procedures in small, out-of-the-way po-dunk towns to allow for the general spread of an idea so that it can self-generate. The clerks and doctors and CNAs who get paid to work on you, do not care how their patients are put in their chairs, just that they get paid so they can eat. The bible says, 'The poor you have with you always.' How many ways can you be poor? No doctor or nurse or any other health care worker is concerned over the reasons why you get in 'poor health.' If they did, we would not have most of the things that are available to the average person now, such as, cigarettes, liquor, guns, microwaves, TVs, cars, etc. I am not against the people who are doing that, just like God said in the beginning, 'I will not contend with man forever.'

Evolution is the word that fits here. Your town is becoming one of the test sites for the evolution of a national/world idea. Do you think that fingerprints are the 'mark of the beast?' I know that deception is the rule of business now and what better way to deceive than to make the mark something you already have? In that way, the doomsday seers are deceived because there will be no mark to receive; you already have it.

Sorry but I am taking strong exception to this post. The Clerks, Doctors, and CNA's are not there just to earn a paycheck. You have characterized a very large group of people in a very negative light. A negative light I know personally for the majority of these folks is not true. To say they do not care how their patients are is a gross misstatement based on a convoluted opinion. I know many many of these folks and they care very deeply about the patients. The doctors, nurses and receptionist didn't create cigarettes, liquor, guns or any of the other things you have attributed to them. and to further show how reticules the post is, How pray tell do you have a finger print on your forehead. The mark of the beast, come on. Not even close.

Here is a news flash, not everything leads to the mark of the beast. Sometimes it is just what it is, and nothing more.

K.D.



Actually this is something I would not be too worried about. With the swipe of our finger, the correct information is made available to your doctor. There are many mistakes because of misidentification and getting the wrong information about a patient. This will insure that the right information is with the right patient, and less paper work. This is actually quite impressive.

God Bless,
K.D.

Sorry but I am taking strong exception to this post. The Clerks, Doctors, and CNA's are not there just to earn a paycheck. You have characterized a very large group of people in a very negative light. A negative light I know personally for the majority of these folks is not true. To say they do not care how their patients are is a gross misstatement based on a convoluted opinion. I know many many of these folks and they care very deeply about the patients. The doctors, nurses and receptionist didn't create cigarettes, liquor, guns or any of the other things you have attributed to them. and to further show how reticules the post is, How pray tell do you have a finger print on your forehead. The mark of the beast, come on. Not even close.

Here is a news flash, not everything leads to the mark of the beast. Sometimes it is just what it is, and nothing more.

K.D.

First thing, the mark is IN your forehead.

'And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads.'

It is your brain! The mark of a man is his legacy.

To say they do not care how their patients are is a gross misstatement based on a convoluted opinion.

I did not say that!

I said that 'they do not care why they come to their chair' and the reason is they want to help. Now, the convolusion is who is paying for their perks, their bonuses, their gifts.

I guarantee you that if you took away the salaries of ANY person who is used to being paid for work, they will find somewhere else to work. And the sooner the mass is educated in the proper way to become healthy and stay healthy, the sooner the drug companies will stop blocking the delivery of useful information and 'dumbing down' the mass and they will become the poor ones. It is the drug companies in cahoots with the oil barons that I am against. They are causing the majority of the illnesses and deaths.

Please understand what you read before you respond.

well laurel,
I have been connected to the medical field for close to 20 years. And I will say that it is just like any other type of job. The real trick is in the retirement accounts and the taxes. You know what happens when the hospital or company wants to trim their budgets, they start with the lowest employees that they will to pay matching retirement funds for and they find some way to remove the creditor from their books.

Jesus the Christ said, 'What man goes to war does not count the cost so that he will have enough to finish?'

This life has become a war.

Good try Gregg but here is what you said. and the parts in red are simply exaggerated poppycock. Notice you didn't mention the pharmaceutical or oil companies at all. Your post to me seems to be quite bitter. The people you are talking about are hard working individuals who care deeply about their patients. Are there some who don't, of course. but I am telling you I work with these people every day, and your gross over generalization is simply wrong for the majority of our health care workers. Guess what I have had a Dr. who turned down a bonus provision in his contract, I have had an office manager turn down a raise because the facility couldn't afford it.

K.D.




Laurel, I have seen the errors happen. I work in a very very small town. We know almost every patient we serve. But lack of information, missing information, wrong information, can and does happen, and the consequences can be tragic. This system will not replace one single employee. We will still need the receptionist, We will still need the Nurse, and We will still need the providers. Those that automate too much find that without the human touch they start loosing patients.

I have seen that commercial and it makes me cringe too.

God Bless,
K.D.

One would have to admit that the combination of liquor and cars kill FAR more people than private, legal gun ownership ever has. There is nothing wrong with firearms, just some of the people who own them. For instance, there has NEVER been a murder involving a LEGALLY owned and properly registered fully automatic rifle. The murders committed with firearms are by murderers who who just as soon use a brick upside someone's head. If noone had firearms, it would just mean that there would be a lot of really bloody and mangled corpses to autopsy, and a lot of innocent victims would be on the slabs who had their ability to defend themselves taken from them. I sure am glad that my great-aunt had the ability to get to a firearm when her drunk husband came home and proceeded to beat her with a fire-poker, and, no, he will never hurt her or anyone else again. This is obviously not murder, this was preventing her own murder.

Oh, well, this has nothing to do with the topic. I figure that since God gave us each our very own fingerprints there is nothing wrong with them (fingerprints). If fingerprinting patients can prevent misadministering drugs to the wrong patients, then it's a great idea. Both of my parents are of the age that they require medical care on a regular basis, and one of them is very allergic to certain medications. For myself, I just don't get sick. This is a 'mark' that we are born with, and therefore, cannot be the mark of the beast. It may be disconcerting, but I would'nt worry about it. It's not like 'big brother' didn't know about our existence in the first place.

Laurel, I can't even stand the music they use in that commercial!

YSIC, Angela

http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/bank-o...rint-223279.php

Bank of America ejected reader Tycho after he refused to give the teller
a thumbprint while cashing a check.

Tycho writes:

"I went into a Bank of America branch on my lunch break. I had with me a check, written to me, that draws on BofA. I wished to cash it. I waited in a line of about 10 for about that many minutes. I was asked for a few forms of ID, one state issued photo ID and one other like a credit card. I produced the needed ID and was asked then for a thumb print. I politely declined. The teller was astonished. She reacted to me as though I had asked her to take the rest of the day off, completely expecting her to do so. She was totally bewildered. The exchange was polite and brief,
"To cash this check I need your thumb print."
"I'm not going to give you my thumb print, how bout some more ID?"
"I can't do that."
"Do you not think I am who I say I am?"
"I need a thumb print."

At this point she waved the next person in line to her. I asked to see the branch manager.

The manager came up to me with a stack of papers she was busy with and set them down on the counter. I told her I had a check drawn on BofA that I would like to cash and the teller refused to do so. We went through the above exchange. When I offered extra ID to prove I am who I say I am, very discreetly, almost imperceptibly, she glanced at the security guard. When we got to the second "I need a thumb print." the tete-a-tete' took a different turn.

"Your are not a customer and I don't have to help you."
I asked, "What good is a BofA check if BofA wont cash it? Checks are bound by federal guidelines, it seems to me like not honoring a check to your own bank would be fraud."
"Those rules tell me I have to get your thumb print to cash a check."
"Show me that rule."

To that she made no response, glanced at the security guard who was right behind me at this point, and went about her work as if I had never walked into the bank. I asked the security guard if he could cash my check. He said no and that if I had no business at the bank, I would have to leave. I turned to the manager and said that her security guard cannot help me either. She walked away keeping her head down to avoid eye contact.

I left, check in hand, frustrated and insulted.

This branch is in Miami Beach. I don't know the managers name.

Regardless of the thumb print, each person I spoke with was amazingly quick to ignore me and let someone else deal with my vigilance. It was really only a few sentences when the manager gave the security guard the glance and he came creeping up behind me. It was not anything about how I behaved, I was certain to remember my manners and to be polite.

It was only what I said (and it wasn't much) that quickly warranted me being ignored with a security guard at my side.

-Tycho"


— BEN POPKEN
[i] I'm very interested to know, what do they do with the fingerprints they get? Do they send them to the secret service or something?

http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/bank-o...rint-223279.php

Bank of America ejected reader Tycho after he refused to give the teller
a thumbprint while cashing a check.

Tycho writes:

"I went into a Bank of America branch on my lunch break. I had with me a check, written to me, that draws on BofA. I wished to cash it. I waited in a line of about 10 for about that many minutes. I was asked for a few forms of ID, one state issued photo ID and one other like a credit card. I produced the needed ID and was asked then for a thumb print. I politely declined. The teller was astonished. She reacted to me as though I had asked her to take the rest of the day off, completely expecting her to do so. She was totally bewildered. The exchange was polite and brief,
"To cash this check I need your thumb print."
"I'm not going to give you my thumb print, how bout some more ID?"
"I can't do that."
"Do you not think I am who I say I am?"
"I need a thumb print."

At this point she waved the next person in line to her. I asked to see the branch manager.

The manager came up to me with a stack of papers she was busy with and set them down on the counter. I told her I had a check drawn on BofA that I would like to cash and the teller refused to do so. We went through the above exchange. When I offered extra ID to prove I am who I say I am, very discreetly, almost imperceptibly, she glanced at the security guard. When we got to the second "I need a thumb print." the tete-a-tete' took a different turn.

"Your are not a customer and I don't have to help you."
I asked, "What good is a BofA check if BofA wont cash it? Checks are bound by federal guidelines, it seems to me like not honoring a check to your own bank would be fraud."
"Those rules tell me I have to get your thumb print to cash a check."
"Show me that rule."

To that she made no response, glanced at the security guard who was right behind me at this point, and went about her work as if I had never walked into the bank. I asked the security guard if he could cash my check. He said no and that if I had no business at the bank, I would have to leave. I turned to the manager and said that her security guard cannot help me either. She walked away keeping her head down to avoid eye contact.

I left, check in hand, frustrated and insulted.

This branch is in Miami Beach. I don't know the managers name.

Regardless of the thumb print, each person I spoke with was amazingly quick to ignore me and let someone else deal with my vigilance. It was really only a few sentences when the manager gave the security guard the glance and he came creeping up behind me. It was not anything about how I behaved, I was certain to remember my manners and to be polite.

It was only what I said (and it wasn't much) that quickly warranted me being ignored with a security guard at my side.

-Tycho"


— BEN POPKEN

I'm very interested to know, what do they do with the fingerprints they get? Do they send them to the secret service or something?

I will not back off from what I said because everyone has been deceived and they take their pills and relax. Maybe you, Mr.KD, do not take any pills or anything like that, but probably 85% of the bosses of any business do. Go back to the flood of Noah. Do you believe that God said to Noah after he came off of the ark that the imagination of man is evil from his youth? He did.
The clerks, doctors, CNAs, nurses, are not volunteers, they get paid. They have to go to work to get paid. They have to have money to buy food to eat. If they were not paid, they would not be there. Ask them! Sure, they would go to another health care facility to work because that is what they know. They do not know how to stand in a line to make car parts to assemble vehicles that kill and maim their brothers and sisters or mold pieces to assemble guns so that their brothers and sisters can be killed in war. Evil is a very very complicated process that has turned the good into bad. Everybody is involved from their youth with the struggle for survival. The bible tells you that there is not one person who is good.

Yeah, that is a little harsh, isn't it?

Is a person who has dedicated their life to Jesus and has the Holy Spirit dwelling with in them capable of good or is everything we ever do evil? And of course they draw a paycheck, that is the society we live in. Are you a socialist?

Now I could be like Jesus Christ and say,'What do you read?' You want a biblical answer or do you want my answer? If you want a biblical answer to your first question, the answer is 'Everything we do is as filthy rags' in the eyes of God. My answer is, 'We try to do good.'

In the newspaper here there are ads for health care workers in abundance. They are advertising for home-care people, and actually bragging 'earn 6.25 an hour'! That doesn't even cover gas and clothing (no scrubs allowed, well dressed casual only), let alone provide a livable wage. Obviously the people who do this are caring individuals who aren't out for the money and might as well be volunteering anyway.

YSIC, Angela

Whoever is in control of the pocketbooks of the individuals knows for a fact that anybody who is daring enough to venture out into the world and get married and have children has to have some kind of income and backup funds for emergencies. The world is full of people who have inherited fortunes of millions of dollars from their rich uncles or dads or granddads and they do not work at all. They supervise, they contribute their inherited funds to the building of businesses that make them keep a steady income; they do not have to worry about emergencies, they're sheltered like idiotic actors, play people. The internet has published things like Mr. So-and-So has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars finding the right home business and now he is looking for suckers to help him earn back his money. Just think, you can have the good life working from home. It all looks good, but you find that it cost some money to even start and you do not get any money for months. It turns out to be the same thing as if both parents were working; two incomes.
You know, the minimum wage for any business is 5.15 an hour, but you have incentives to get married and have children. And 6.25 an hour is good if you work full-time. More than adequate if there are two people working. Emergencies are uncommon and if you have children, there are medical conditions that are common among youngsters, like mumps, measles, chicken pox, and now among the elderly it is the flu.
People are scared and that causes its own problems. And worry causes even more problems.
Do you even realize that to be a home health care worker you have to spend so much money to even become associated with health care through schooling and training in a hospital. It is absolutely rediculous. Advertising for home health is only for those already in health care and want to get out of hospital work.
Of course, the population is aging and becoming home bound. And the abundance of health care workers in the population is a sign of how much the population has quit caring for themselves.
We keep wishing and hoping for the return of Jesus Christ. You have to realize that claiming that Jesus Christ is God is saying that you are Jesus Christ, your neighbor is Jesus Christ;your father, your mother, your brother, your sister because God is everything and everybody. We say that God left an instruction manual for living. And in that instruction manual, we are told of ways that we can live to 120 peacefully, vibrantly, and love every minute of it.
Well, the earth has aged and God lowered the life to about 70 not long after, so I have a number of years left. And I will try and enjoy it.

Tell me, Gregg, which area of the country do you live? I can make my way only with twice that! (Unless I'm willing to work 100 hours per week, which I'm not.) Now, before you say I'm greedy or not spending wisely, realize that I'm single with no children. My apartment is $525 a month, no bills paid. Add $80-$100 for electricity, $35 for water, $70 for cable (I'm not allowed to get the cheaper Dish/Direct/etc), $55 for phone, $90 for insurance (car and renter's), and my bills come to an average of $865 a month, and that's not including gasoline, clothing, food, and household supplies. Did I mention $9 a week on kitty food?

I don't even have a car payment! Most people think they have to have a shiny car, I'm perfectly happy with my little 30 mile to the gallon, paid off, well running, little car, AND it's short enough that I can load my kayak on and off of it easily.

To barely get by, I would need about $1100 a month. If I didn't have to pay ANY taxes, I would have to work 44 hours a week, but that's dreaming. Let's see; federal tax, state tax, FICA, medicare tax, and health insurance gets deducted. So let's be very generous after those and say they come to only 22% of the gross. That $242 dollars. So I would actually have to work 53 hours a week in order to make my bills.

Since I believe in tithing, there goes another 10%. Make that 58 hours a week that I would have to work to make my bills alone. Then when would I have the time to care for my parents and their home (yard)? Especially if I were to continue going to church! Maybe I could clone myself so I could have clean clothing to wear?

$6.25 is nowhere near adequate. It's great for a high school student, though. I was making more than that way back when I was in high school breaking horses! Taking care of HUMAN BEINGS should obviously be worth more than training a horse. I thank the Lord I am capable of caring for my loved ones and that I don't have to work for wages like these. Shoot, even the illegals wouldn't work for these wages around here, we have a company that's been in trouble for hiring them and continues to do so, and they pay almost $9 to start.

In Christ, Angela

incrementalism:
This is how so many Christians will get sucked into the beast system.
And all the while they will keep reasuring themselves this is ok & is not bad yet.........
Who owns "your mark" ="fingerprints, retnal charichtaristics" GOD does, not the state and it's system!
What is "In Your Forehead" as the Bible states "in your forehead"= YOUR EYES!!!!!!! What is in your hands= "Fingerprints"
ARE you going to give away GOD's Property to the state or government?
Are you a "good steward" of GOD's Property "His temple of the Holy Spirit"...????
Dont be so Quick to give away your "GOD's" mark for identification!!!