Lately, my thoughts about pain is that life's ambition for true happiness is an illusion.

I have a job, I make money, I have shelter, I eat daily. I have the basic things I need to get on with this life.

I perhaps have described a majority of the folks that visit this forum. But deep in my heart I reject the values that I think many people strive to have that for some reason are idolized as being the source of happiness; wealth, status, influence, health, family. I do not reject these things themselves but I reject the thought that these are the answers to happiness. That lifes long goal is not about achieving these things in being happy.

I think the world knows this about me and I feel it shuns me because I am not committed to playing its game to its fullest measure.

I believe Christ was shunned for the very same reason, not only by rejecting these things but by living the example as well, consequently Christ was very acquainted with grief and pain. I believe grief and pain is the consequences of rejecting the world and it's values of what it defines as happiness.

But to play the game of pursuing happiness only adds to the illusion I believe that life is, because chances are, happiness is fleeting and is not sustainable in this life. Wealth can be lost, status refused, influence ignored, health failing, and family neglected. Though I have not achieved such things (because I do not readily strive for them with gusto) I often hear of those who have and are still not satisfied. So it's like a trap, to me, spending a lifetime trying to accomplish wealth, status, influence, health and family and still not achieve it. After all, for example in achieving wealth, the top 2% of the wealthist people own 50% of the worlds wealth, so the odds are against me from the start.

Pain is what makes me realize that life is an illusion. And to underscore what I believe is the truthfullness in my view, Christ demonstrated the shallow bonds of this illusion by accomplishing a great many number of miracles. And its like a catch-22. If I buy into this "reality" by pursuing "happiness" I am unable to make miracles by faith as I am more dependent on my abilities, but if I am miserable with grief and pain by rejecting the reality I am empowered with performing miracles in relying upon my faith in Christ. In a way I realize the truth of this view when my faith in Christ survives the ordeal by my continued rejection of the world's values, thus suffering, and that becomes the miracle in my life.

The lesson to me is reject the pain as well as the values of the world as part of rejecting the illusion, neither the devil (pain and grief) nor the deep blue sea (pursuing happiness in this world) will show me the truth, but only Christ.

In the days ahead I believe the world will be stricken with a great deal of pain and grief, and from it will be two camps of thought. One, that I brought this upon myself or two, God did because of my unrepenting ways. Well, I do bring it upon myself as I could not blame God that I drive my car adding to global warming, causing the artic polar cap to melt, for example. But this mode of thinking leads to my belief God is causing my misery because of my unrepentant way. i.e. If I would stop driving my car that adds to global warming I will advert the wrath of God from my casual (or sinful) behavior.

I can only think of one way for breaking this circular thinking, and that is the pain that this world will receive shortly is to show happiness is an illusion and unobtainable within the world. So receiving pain is not from unrepentance, as Christ himself was very acquainted with grief and pain and had no need to ever repent. Receiving pain is to have the truth revealed.

I believe it's God's will that all are meant to and shall suffer pain for the reason all will be revealed the truth. Suffer pain and grief now or later, but never to suffer pain and grief forever, not for anyone in either case.

Well wishes and regards. It is all true it was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Love HB

Listen HB...

God knows you... and can't wait to show you what He has in store for you! You're right...material things don't buy happiness. Your road hasn't been easy. Some doubt exists... and some tears, too. You've come a long way... but have made much progress, though. Stay in His Word and prayer. Pour out your heart and He will hear you. He will take care of you!

Love,

Nitevision

no pain, no gain



Paul said to suffer for Christ's sake is great gain (godliness with contentment), so hang in there y'all. This life is just a vapour and material wealth is decietful, because it all vanishes, but Jesus Christ remains and has a great reward for those who stand firm till the end and don't cater to the god of this sinful world or his machinations and unfair practices.



But we preach Christ crucified unto the jews a stumblingblock,and to the greeks foolishness;But unto them which are called both jews and greeks, Christ the power of God,and the wisdom of God. halelujah.



Romans 8

1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.

3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,

7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,

8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.

10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh--

13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!"

16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope

21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.

23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.

24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees?

25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.

26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;

27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;

30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?

32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?

33 Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies;

34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.

35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 Just as it is written, "FOR YOUR SAKE WE ARE BEING PUT TO DEATH ALL DAY LONG; WE WERE CONSIDERED AS SHEEP TO BE SLAUGHTERED."

37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us.

38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,

39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

^^^^Amen

It's funny you should bring this post up...for yesterday in a dream a word was given me...and all that was said was James 5.

Where two or more are gathered in my name...yes Jesus.

James 5

1. Go to NOW, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2. Your riches are corrupted, and your gaments are motheaten.

3. Your gold and silver is cankered, and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were FIRE. Ye have heaped treasure together for the LAST DAYS.

4. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, WHICH OF YOU KEPT BACK FOR FRAUD, CRIETH: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of the sabaoth.

5. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton, ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

6. Ye have condemened and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

7. Be PATIENT therefore, brethren, unto the COMING OF THE LORD. BEHOLD, the HUSBANDMAN WAITETH for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath LONG PATIENCE FOR IT, until he receive the early and latter rain.

8. Be YE ALSO PATIENT, stablish your hearts; for the COMING OF THE LORD DRAWETH NEIGH.

9. Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned; BEHOLD, THE JUDGE STANDETH BEFORE THE DOOR.

10. Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.

11. Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of TENDER MERCY.

12. But above all things, my brethren, SWEAR NOT, neither by Hevean, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath, but let your YEA be YEA, and your NAY be NAY, lest ye fall into condemnation.

13. Is any among you afflicted? LET HIM PRAY. Is any MERRY? LET HIM SING PSALMS!!!

14. Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.
The EFFECTUAL FERVENT PRAYER OF A RIGHTEOUS MAN AVAILETH MUCH.

17. Eliias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain; and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

18. And he prayed again, and the HEAVEN GAVE RAIN, and the EARTH BROUGHT FORTH HER FRUIT.

19. Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him:

20. Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way, shall SAVE A SOUL FROM DEATH< AND SHALL HIDE A MULTITUDE OF SINS.


Oh, Heavenly Father, teach us to pray in all humility and truthfullness. Break us, mend us, teach us in all your ways. For you LORD our GOD give us many gifts at your feet...we are grateful dear Jesus...you are holy and we adore you, and want to be with you forever and your light be our guide our lamp to lead us in darkness and bring us to your Light so that we may be FULL of your LIGHT and no lie enter our minds or lips...You dear LORD are our TRUTH and bear witness to all creation...we want to be in your LIGHT so that we dear LORD our GOD can bear witness of the Glory of YOU our Father...dear Heavenly Father...Amen


Many blessings to all...Lord we are so thankful for your LIGHT is renewing HB and keeping him in your mighty Embrace...

You need a wife...

Larry why add to his miseries!

HB you're just recieving the truth. I've seen it too! Welcome to the club.

Thank you Laurel, but I must defer any gratitudes by offering them to Christ, for his is the glory. If these words are true then the Holy Spirit just unleashed the motherload.

Please read below, as I am very excited with what this means. I hope much fruitful discussion will follow. Love

Robert.



Christ never wanted to suffer pain or grief. It was not something he desired, he was actually a partier, taking pleasure in attending weddings and ceremonies, turning water to wine.

He was, however WILLING, to endure the pain and grief, and the more he was willing to endure (in which he did) the more was he endowed with faith to do a great deal of many things.

Now I want to make clear that I am writing about having faith going beyond salvation. Believing in Christ as my saviour is very important but it is basic salvation 101 stuff that mature believers should know very well by now. Moving mountains is advance grad level stuff (for lack of a better comparison), and that is what I am writing about here.

The basic equation I am trying to explain to the best of my understanding is this kind of faith, the kind that raises the dead, has very much to do with pain and grief.

I can suffer pain and grief without faith, but I cannot have faith without pain and grief. They are intrinsic, and believing and growing in Christ comes at the cost of much pain and grief. What makes it faith is the willingness to endure it. But, I must NEVER desire nor self inflict pain and grief, only be absolutely willing to endure pain and grief, and if God wants it, I will endure it and with meekness, without complaint.

It's no wonder to me then why the world rejects believing in Christ because it is at the cost of pain and grief, let alone performing the miracles that Christ had done, because if I receive Christ but I am unwilling to endure the pain and grief my faith is but little. And, guess what? Pain and grief comes anyway, so that when it does come I cannot cope with it, i.e. abandon Christ in faith, flee the from the pain and grief at the cost of my faith in Christ.

The significance of this basic equation is faith bigger than a mustard seed that commands mountains to be removed endures pain and grief. Faith to heal infirmities comes only with the willingness to endure pain and grief. Faith to cast out unclean spirits comes only with the willingness to endure pain and grief. Faith to perform any miracle only comes with the willingness to endure pain and grief. Why? Because the willingness to endure pain and grief bestowed for whatever reason my God has chosen, is the ultimate in humility before my God, and in that state the truth is revealed. Nothing stands as an obstacle to me, not sickness, not ignorance, not hate, not poverty, not the enemy, not even death. The stone that could not be moved is not only moved but broken as well.

I really want to explore this greater, and with anyone here who wants to. The other day I read Fervent's post http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=9226 "I Saw A Vision Of People Trying To Move A Huge Stone." And today I read another post, "Unanswered Prayers." I see these things as inteconnected. I want to stare intently at that stone of unbelief. I want it broken that it so honors God, and if it means that I shall endure pain I will and without complaint.

So, what is your pain that you willingly endure?

Love to you all HB

Humble Bob, I love your heart on your sleeve personality, say it like it is and so on.
Everything has been a pain in the butt to me lately.

And everyday I feel the pain of not belonging here in this world and with that pain, there
is great joy, for I know I belong to Him.

Now before I get to be a real pain to all of you by being rambling rosie, I just want to say
I believe we are all going through and will continue to have pain in this life.
But our load can be so easy when we give it all to Christ.

To me it seems like the whole world has one issue after another and these
issues can make one dizzy. I always want one isssue and that is to follow Jesus Christ.

What is essential in life is invisible to the eyes and only seen by the heart.

I love you all,
from,
rosie

And everyday I feel the pain of not belonging here in this world and with that pain, there
is great joy, for I know I belong to Him.

The thing is we do belong here...the earth was created for man. The system has run amok and we have here no continuing city...that aside, we are here to evangelize the world and to equip the saints and to stand in the gap against all odds and all adversity...to grow where we are planted and to initiate a response to the gospel that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. We need to polish our swords and be sharpened to His will. It is not an easy war...and it is a war...that is why we are called to fight the good fight of faith ( 1 Tim 6:12) and to be soldiers...

2Ti 2:1 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2Ti 2:2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also. 2Ti 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. 2Ti 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of [this] life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

amen? Love ya Rosie!

here, I'll begin by modeling it, and if you are so inspired declare the pain that you will endure for the Lord!

I will endure the pain of my sister's sharp criticsm that drives me to grief. A grief so deep that I feel unwanted and rejected, that I feel as if love is spurned from me. I will endure the pain of isolation that I am unmarried and not knowing the caress from a loving wife. If it pleases the Lord, my beloved, I will endure this pain!



Dear Rosie, then say it! Tell it to Christ. It is my pain too. Here I will model it.

I will endure the pain of living in this world, of living away from my beloved Lord, separated from him and feeling away from him. If it pleases Christ I WILL ENDURE THIS PAIN

I will cry that to the Lord too Humble Bob!
I pray only good things for you Humble Bob and if it is your desire
to have a wife I pray that God will give you a very good wife for you indeed!


I too have family members that drive me, now here is a word that my
dear friend uses cooka loony. I have a brother who tells me what to do and
where to go. I have a father who makes me feel guilty if I cannot do something
with him at times. He wants me to drop everything at a moments notice and
go somewhere with him.

Sometimes I feel stretched or like I am a puppet being pulled by this string
and that string.

Now I feel like I am complaining and that is not want I want. Just letting you
know that some family members can cause us great pain. Without Christ
I could not endure.

There are times I literally think I cannot go on and then our Lord genlty lifts
me up and carries me forward. I see only Him and for me that is enough
to keep going on.

One day we will be with Him Humble Bob. That is our hope. that is our comfort and our
peace.

I believe He is with us here right now.
I feel His presence.

He loves us Humble Bob. He will hold us in His arms. We are safe.
You are loved Humble Bob by God and your brothers and sisters here.

Let us praise Him!

love,
rosie

HB not all will understand what is being revealed here...It is not meant' for all to understand it...
I can understand what you are saying...As I just stated in the PM to you....We have to allow the full experience of the pain and grief to receive all that God is wanting to do in our lives...
With my injury, I would not allow it past my body...Yes my body was afflicted with the injury, but I refused to allow it in my soul and spirit...I was holding my chin up in great spirit but was not recieving the healing...Remember that picture I sent awhile back, the one with all my sisters? You stated that I looked royal and sent off an air of something I forgot the exact word...When you emailed me I stated I was in pain that day and a great deal of pain..I was trying not to show it....It is in that trying not to show it is when we don't recieve from the Lord...We are being false...The church today will tell ya, "NAME IT AND CLAIM IT!" OKAY!...The church today will tell you, if you have a cold, don't say you have a cold...Well, that's a lie...You have a cold...See what I am saying....The word "appear" has no place in the word of God...Application of His word to bring about something that is changed for real is...If I have to talk to myself to make it appear as if I am healed I am fooling myself...The application of the Word is all it takes....
What I am saying fits in with what your saying, at least for me it does...

I just want to say to you Humble Bob and Pamela that I understand you
both completely.

God is with us.
God bless you.
I receive His peace in the midst of any trial.
I am thanking God for Humble Bob and Pamela bringing a message that has
given me understanding, peace and love. And this too I know is from the Lord.

Thanking His faithful servants too.

love,
rosie

Yes it certainly does fit. Here is scripture that I believeit supports what is being said.

On casting out unclean spirits.

Matthew 20:17-21
20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

...fasting is grief and pain..


on ressurecting the dead
John 11:35
Jesus wept

Jesus suffered grief and pain for Lazarus before he resurrected him!

and the greatest of all miracles, Christ was resurrected after suffering the scourge of the cross.

Pain and grief, though not welcomed but willingly endured is the faith to cast out unclean spirits, healing infirmities, banishing poverty, resurrecting the dead and other miracles. Willingly enduring any suffering without complaint to God is the most humbling thing I can think of.

OH Rosie, I didn't mean to imply that you didn't understand...As I only read HB's post...We are talking here and in PM...I am sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was directing it to you personally...Your just catching a thread that me, HB and Fev have had going for some time now....here and in another area on the forum...
You bless me dearly...



It all comes down to "how much are we willing to sacrifice"....Christ sacrificed all for us...Scripture tells us to be Christlike, to be perfected, to run the race to attain the prize...When we are in that time of our "suffering" ie...pain and grief, when we accept that and allow the Lord to take off more of that "old self" to allow more of the new self then we are not fainting in that race...Our prize is not here, our prize is eternal...
Our example is taken from Abraham....Christ became that suffering for us yes, but the one piece of this puzzle, the one revealed thing that I am seeking Him on, is why do we still sufffer if He took it for us? I understand we are going to suffer, and that suffering brings perfection in Him if we don't murmmer and complain about it...I say, don't be a dead left behind Isrealite in the dessert that did not get to see the promised land for their only reward was delieverance...Akin to my fav, justified vs sancitified...One gets to be delievered and one goes on for the rewards of the promised land...AMEN!
Sorry got excited for a moment on the fact of rewards in heaven...This was good timing HB...I feel a turn in my spirit...I am being uplifted that is making a difference...

Oh my dear Pamela, I know you didn't imply that I didn't understand.
I thank you for the message and I am glad to receive it.
I took your message personally and I thank you for it, for I needed to
hear what you had to say. God was speaking and I am listening.

Keep on keeping on Pamela. You are spirit filled.
love ya,
from,
rosie

I am glad to hear that I didn't offend you...Never would bring an offense to you my friend...

Peace to you...

You are right things have gone amuck.
Oh your whole message is so right on Fervent. Why of course it is for it is right
on according to scripture.

Bless your heart for showing me the path to stay on again.
Larry is that you my dear brother in Christ.
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Love ya too.
let us march on for we already have victory through Christ.
We've got our marching orders folks. Let us speak Jesus
where ever we go. And yes God created this earth for us. Let's take it back by proclaiming
Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lord's.

Nothing else will do, but to follow our Lord!




Laurel just want to tell you that you are so sweet and
I always love your honest and heartfelt posts.

I have gained sooooooooo much by reading your posts.
You live to please our Lord and I want to sit and eat with
you and Jesus.

love,
rosie

Wonderful!

(in a kind and quite voice, )Because, if I want to raise the dead, heal other peoples infirmities, walk on water, command a fig tree to shrivel, I must be willing to endure pain and grief in meekness. And if I am not willing, guess what happens? pain and grief comes anyway because one it is a reminder I have rejected the world for believing in Christ and two that happiness in the world is an illusion. And this will be shown very soon. To anyone who reads this take care of these words, because a great pain and grief is coming to the world and to all nations.

Jeremiah 25:15-17
15 For thus saith the Lord God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it. 16 And they shall drink, and be moved, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them. 17 Then took I the cup at the Lord's hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom the Lord had sent me:

--Sometimes when we are doing our best to serve God, we
notice tht God allows people to prosper who care nothing about him
or his ways. In these verses, we are reminded that God will make
all things right in His time.

All people and all nations are subject to God, and He rewards those
who sincerely seek Him

see Hebrews 11:6 after reading Jeremiah 25:15-38



Yes I feel God moving amongst us.
I cry tears of joy with you Laurel.
Bless your heart.

love,
rosie

Laurel you are a woman of God.
Yes! I know you are blessed to walk in faith
with your husband.

Do not let others try and bring you down.
You are up, up, up with the Lord.
You are a child of God!

I pray the whole world comes to Jesus and comes
to understand Matthew 7:12 too.
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Lord please help me always to treat others how I would want to be treated. And
along the way I find I forget about self and just want to think of the needs of others.
Keep me humble and just a servant.

Laurel is so loving and I pray all who she comes in contact with treats
her with love and the respect she deserves.

Laurel you are blessed

My biggest pain is when I don't allow my thoughts to surrender to my heart for God.
Even when I know he is speaking and am so thrilled to share what he has said to me with others...I will be rejected, doubted...but I must remember that no other person on Earth suffered as much as our dear Savior and why because he loved us more than his own life. He could have ruled the World, taken the Kingdom when Satan offered all to him if Jesus would bow down and worship Satan. But he loved us so much that he showed great restraint so that he could take our sins upon the Cross.
And what is so sad is that he was the most rejected, and he only wanted to share his gift of love and show others how to live in his love.
I know I created my own walls, to keep the hurt from touching me...it's a natural instinct in humanity and I suppose that God does allow us to do so that other's won't take advantage of our vuneralbe states of mind and heart IN CHRIST. The wicked only want to crush the innocent child...the child we where born to be in Christ Jesus our Lord...The WORLD will mold the child, teach fear to the child, teach us that we must have this or that to survive in this World even if this USELESS STUFF creates an illusion of Need.
Then we come to a point in life that I KNOW IN MY HEART and SOUL that GOD has lead me to. A point in our Life when we see that all those things meant nothing...only LOVE for GOD, loveing yourself and loving one another is all that matters.
Yes the day will come, when all things that we have built a false purpose around, all the lies will come crashing down...where one is standing ONE ON ONE with their MAKER, it happens when Christ our LORD draw our hearts and minds and deep down the Soul of our purpose TO HIM...and tears come, and cleanse our eyes and ears and hearts to SEE the LOVE AND GLORY OF HIS GRACE and purpose is to do his WILL and WALK with him...The hardest part is the judgment from the WORLD...but God gives us peace in times and pain and suffering as well. It is the narrow way, but the only way. Because I love Jesus, and I want to never look back and get stuck in that comfort zone zombieefied by the WORLD...PATIENCE, oh how I've longed to be with the LORD forever, once seeing his face, the LIGHT of love surrounding and filling ever cell in me full of joy and a comforting peace this world shuns love. But he could have kept me there, but he had other plans for me...I hope to continue to honor the LORD and he knows even like Peter there will be times of compromise that later will cause me pain if I deny him. To me the biggest pain I have ever suffered was not telling and showing God's love and holding everything inside because of the fear of rejection or unacceptance from this World...But I Know deep in my heart that I never want to hurt the LORD and never want to chance ever being separated from him. And I know he has brought me here now for his purpose...So that I can truthfully say...Oh LORD how did I ever manage before without you...but then retract that statement and say OH LORD YOU ARE AND HAVE AND WILL ALWAYS BE WITH US.

And that my friend Wernotalone, should be written on our hearts and I would
love to see this written on cards and shared with all.

What a blessing your post is. I have chill bumps.
I am asking for permission to use your post and spread it around wherever I go.
Oh how well you said it. Oh how I know you walk with our Lord.
And oh how I know I am grateful to know you. You are a blessing!

I am in a state of a lot of oh's and will always be in a state of awe.

love,
rosie

Let the LORD guide your words..I see his spirit move you and us all...pray and I know he will give us all the words to speak, but we are still human...and God IS God...he loves us all...hope his words where here, I think all the posts are uniquely used for his Glory...no not me no not me.

Thank you though, and I do love you too.

God does reveal himself to us...when I quoted HE IS ALWAYS there, is when my dad was in a coma, and I said Dad I gotta go now, and you are in God's hands...GOD SHOWED up, and LIGHT seemed to beem off of my dad's body, and he opened his eyes...and it was if I was looking at PURE LOVE, all truth, and felt like falling on my knees and praising Jesus at the SAME TIME, and also shamed like God saying, Oh you of little Faith, I've ALWAYS BEEN here...just thinking of my dad and missing him...although he came out of the coma and the resporator right after that HAPPENING...he died 2 years later...LOVE you ROSIE.

I am not just in a state of awe, I will be in a state
of goosebumps the whole day long,.

I said the same thing to my mother who was dying,
I had to leave because of exhaustion, but I knew
God was with her and her new life was to begin soon.

I told her I loved her and she was the best mom I could
ever have. A few days before she passed on she asked me
to help her get to heaven. She literally wanted me and my
husband to pick her up and lift her up to heaven. My heart
was breaking. I told her that Jesus will come and get her
when the time is right.

I wanted my dad to stay with her when she left this earth.
I held her and said my goodbyes =only goodbye for a little while,
the day before. My dad said she opened her eyes look right at him and
was gone. To this day I think she was looking into the eyes of Jesus.

love,
rosie who thanks God for meeting another person who
knows we are never alone

My biggest pain is seeing the pain of others. My second biggest pain is knowing that somewhere locked inside of us is the answer, but the soul keeps the Spirit from coming out and removing the burdens and yokes and delivering us into a place of freedom, spirit, soul, body, financially and socially. I have pain in all those areas but my shakings do help ground and settle me to the word of God..and a hard word it is to the flesh of man....

Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Jam 1:3 Knowing [this], that the trying of your faith worketh patience. Jam 1:4 But let patience have [her] perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

This is one of the most heart felt threads I have every seen in the forum. A place where Christians are sharing and caring to the degree it is a miracle.

Jam 5:16 Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.


"Tell My people that the thing I desire of them now is commitment. I am moving and working through those who are walking in the way of righteousness, never having seen yet having believed. This is the certain and powerful obedience to My admonition that "The just shall live by faith!"This is that which I seek of My own! I admonish My people that it is in those who set their hand to the plough and do not look back that I am well pleased and in whom I am bringing forth much fruit.

I am bridging the raging torrents against Me and you are the vessels of mercy through which I will perform all of My will! The seeming weakness of the flesh of those who favour My righteous cause is by far and away overshadowed by My goodness and power in a way in which you may never perceive this side of the Millennial reign.

For those who expect Me to move mountains and change the course set before you, I assuredly say unto you that there will be powerful advances in the lives and in the hearts of My little flock as they move out in faith to perform My ultimate will.

Continue to serve Me and to grow where you are planted, for I have a very fruitful vineyard in a very fruitful hill saith the Lord! I call you to the commitment which is meet for My righteous cause to be performed. I ask you to say continually let the Lord be magnified which hath pleasure in the prosperity of His servants! Say in faith and stand in faith upon My written word, "I will not fear evil tidings; my heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord."

Fervent I cried through your whole post.
You are so centered=Christ centered.

All I can say to you right now is that I love you.
Keep on keeping on my friend-you encourange me
beyond words.

love,
rosie

Act 21:13 Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart?

Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord [is].

Phi 3:1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed [is] not grievous, but for you [it is] safe.

Blessings Rosie this lady of faith in whom is no guile...