Remember, true faith is always on the cutting edge of unbelief! If we subscribe to only the portion of the known immediate will of God for our lives, we will not hasten to perform any further. Hence God is in the faith stretching business and when it seems as if there is no way, then God pushes us over the edge of our comfortable pew and into the ethereal realm of floating upon His grace which passeth understanding! Just when you see the ship sinking, just when the the tax collector is demanding full restitution, just when the strongman armed seems to have secured another of your treasures for his own trove, just when the doctor says there is no cure, just when hopes are dashed and fleeting and all resolve is gone, along comes God Who we behold in the face of Jesus Christ our redeemer acting out His High Priestly office over our professions and interceding with the Father on our behalf! And the floodgates do open and the raised hackles of the enemy which are brandishing loathsome fear of failure fall away as trees before a storm and all the red tape and all the admonishments that you are not going to be able to endure and to press in and to press on and to escape the obvious are vanquished away and doors do open and windows do close, and fresh air is breathed and hope is no longer deferred! Suddenly God moves to provide yet again for his children and to prove Himself faithful in our behalf! Never give up! It is the only way you will ever fail.....

Hi Fervent,

Truly, truly no man has spoken this, but the Spirit of God has revealed
this to you...beautiful. You have spoken a word of encouragement
and it is as if you read me.

The other night I had a dreamlet. At the end of the video...I heard
the voice boom out 400. At first I saw it written...then the Voice
speaking it, then booming it out. I woke up and couldn't quite open
my eyes. I started to go back to sleep when I heard the voice more
quietly and more in my lucid thinking. I sat up. The clock at the end
of the bed on the table said 4:00 am.

So when I got home from work today I thought about it and looked
at what was on page 400 of my Bible. I am being blessed and
stretched at the same time...I am walking in it. I don't really know
how, except when I hit the end of that place...I have to go on. I
don't know how, but faith...

So on page 400:

1 Samuel 16:7

"But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart".

I knew this was what I was to see as I had previously written
"GOD LOOKS AT THE HEART". I realize that His blessing does not
end at the end of me...it starts there. Once in a while I see that
place and I am in awe. And when I experience the moments of
oneness, His presence, I am filled with such joy. It carries me to
the next place, situation, refining me and deepening my faith and
strengthening my relationship with the great I AM.

When I am weak He is strong.

So dear Fervent encourager I speak this unto you:


"Now He which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us,
is God;" 2Cor 1:21

"Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts". 2Cor 1:22


Blessings,
signet

I get so tired of having my feet come close to being dashed on the rocks time and time again. I want peace

//>Remember, true faith is always on the cutting edge of unbelief!

//>we will not hasten to perform any further...

//> Never give up!

Just described my life right now. But you can add some bitterness and a small amount of growing anger and the feeling of wanting to just stand still, hence the "we will not hasten to perform any further...
What's this all over? A second go on the merry go round of that ol' mountain and a huge trial in my life and I don't particularly want to take that ride. BUT then again the lesson that will be learn, the revealed things to come are far more bigger than my comfort.
I guess I do sometimes get tired HB....I remember you asking me this a long time ago...

I too understand the struggles. The Lord showed me these verses and they give me great comfort. I hope they will comfort you too.

"... we were burdened beyond measure, above strength, so that we despaired even of life. Yes, we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God..." 2 Corinthians 1:8-9

"... we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed— always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. " 2 Corinthians 4:7-11

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.” Joshua 1:9

"He said to me,
"'My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.'
"Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong." 2 Corinthians 12:9-10

"As your days, so shall your strength be." Deuteronomy 33:25

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also abounds through Christ. " 2 Corinthians 1:3-5

"And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Now to our God and Father be glory forever and ever. " Philippians 4:19-20


"The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, neither faints nor is weary.
His understanding is unsearchable. He gives power to the weak,
and to those who have no might He increases strength.Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall,
But those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength;
They shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary,
They shall walk and not faint." Isaiah 40:28-31

"For though He was crucified in weakness, yet, He lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in Him, but we shall live with Him by the power of God toward you." 2 Corinthians 13:4

"...in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:37-39

"Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen." Ephesians 3:20-21

...it still hurts

That is impossible because the word "hurts" does not show up in KJV...

It must be something else you feel


These are among the hardest words to live by, besides loving your enemy...

Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Jam 1:3 Knowing [this], that the trying of your faith worketh patience. Jam 1:4 But let patience have [her] perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
Ouch!!

Pain? Anguish? Even Jesus cried at what He had to do.....I guess it is a season for a lot of us to go through...
I learned a good thing today at service...It did cheer me up...It concerned the justification and the difference between work VS foundation....After today's revealed thing, I am now moving over to the OSAS catagory.....

I guess out of it all, even the love your enemy is looking like an easy task for me right now compared to the trial that lays ahead....This may be why I am going through this one...I didn't leave enough of the old self behind the first time...
Though I can't explain nor comprehend the things I feeling this time around, the bitterness, and anger that has attached itself to me on this trip...The more I try to lay them down, the further I feel I am pushed backwards instead of forward. That is why the first line of your original post spoke a thousand lifetimes to me... Is it normal to feel anger and bitterness toward the faith that has already been instilled in me? I know that sounds off, but that is what I feel...

Remember, true faith is always on the cutting edge of unbelief! By that I mean there is a point to which we all come to where there is no more ability to believe. But God knows that we are a developing story. Much like when Henry Ford made the first automobile...it was nothing like those of today because we have PROGRESSED in knowledge and understanding and technical know-how. So also, in the Spirit we have ripened and grown but only to a point. None of us have wings as of yet. When this event of life comes to a full head, you will again look back and smile and say, shucks...what was all the angst about? We are always being kept in this verse...Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

When grace becomes law... ( I am struggling with that concept but it is from Roy Perry's prophesy post yesterday)

There are many "intangible tangibles" in this post...a reflective pool of variants to the perfect will of God. Opposite effects of what one desires at the outset in an experience which becomes not a "way of" survival but a "struggle for" survival...we are undone in some way. But to the greater glory.

Going up higher into the mountain of God, the air becomes rarified and the flesh becomes cumbersome. Why do I get the feeling that you are dealing with something from a past relationship?

Yes, my relationship with Jesus....
I was posting in another post and the answer was given me...The anger and bitterness is stemming from the fact that I cannot deny Jesus...I don't have that escape...I am on the ride and cannot jump off...The comfort zone is not alloted to me...
OKAY but now don't get me wrong...I know what I just said sounds like, "Okay girl! Why would you want to escape Jesus...???? It's not that at all...The control factor has just been removed....Unknown territory up ahead...

Okay, I am making no sense I think...I know what I am saying...LOL! Do you see what I am saying...

I think that is the event with several of us...Humble Bob, I think is...I am experiencing this also...I am gritting my teeth and I am hanging on, but I have little to hang on to...just the memories of a time when there was more power in my walk and more evidence in my life... (of His presence) I see an hour glass with the last dregs of sand going through the little narrow opening just before the thing gets turned upside down to start the process all over again....I think Jesus experienced that on the cross....Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? It is also our ninth hour... a time of the fulness of God wanting to be made manifest in our lives...we need to go to the cross and weep. I think we are much closer to God at this point than we realize...I am REALLY feeling this just now...BREAKTHROUGH and BREAKOUT is upon us.!!

Yes, a visit to my prayer closet is needed that is for sure...I almost feel as though I cannot breath, I am weary and don't have the strength to go through a time of testing..I have not recovered from my last time of testing...But then again I know my Lord will not place on me more than I can bare...Yes, I can relate to the ninth hour and I will agree that we are in that.
I am not going to lie, but I do want to stand still and not even think right now...I feel as though I am in a waste land right now...My desire has left, even though my work continues.

I want to run through this:


But I feel like this:

The path we are walking gets ever more narrow...less and less room for the flesh...I think that is what is happening to us.

There is a diversification of gifts which shall not perish or fade away, but will remain intact as a reservoir of preservation and an ointment of sprinkling and cleansing. Not by power nor by might but by my Spirit saith the Lord that has redeemed you. I have purged you with hyssop and washed you with the tears of your own repentance....I have bound up your wounds and stabilized the environment and the means of your healing. For you are My child! And the mindsets of my children must be sanctified unto me for out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh. I am upping the ante of faith and the wildcards in your hand will be tossed on the table and presented as an offering suitable for burning! For they contain the consuming lusts of rampaging flesh. And I will away with it in order that you may be cleansed and purged.

The delicacies, the fragrances, the ointments, the vials of cleansing are prepared and openly being poured out upon you. May you arise and shine in the glory with which you are clothed. For the glory of my saints is the lesser light of my particular and personal glory. Like the sun and the moon by comparison, for you reflect my glory as the moon doth reflect the glory of the sun. You have been all but shipwrecked in your faith as I have left you to the storm tossed seas... that your faith may be tested. This testing is not by way of proving, but it is simply by way of allowing you the knowledge of who you really are unless I am at the helm.

The saintly calling and the provocation to righteousness is an implantation of my Spirit, and I will that you be filled. Make room for this in your heart, for the evidence of need is relayed to your heart by the indignant cries of your ego and flesh wanting to remain in ascendancy.

I am preparing the furnace for the stoking of coals! I am turning up the heat in order that the burning of renewal will effect the manner of speech and the method of delivery of the words of this life, commensurate with the formidable faith it takes to punch through darkness into twilight and from twilight into the bright sunshine of my love. So go your way in peace and be assured that for all of your sins, I am enough. Only openly grant me the specific right of incursion, for I never tread the blighted cornfields in this dispensation unless I am invited so to do. Trust only in me and remain steadfast and immovable and I am with you even now. Amen.-

Fervent and Pam, your words here hold more truth and honesty than I could ever expect. I honor those words and feelings that you have. They resonate and comfort me as they witness to the same grief I live in my heart.

Oh boy! Escape! Wow. What a tough one. I thought of that too, Pam. But if I was shown another way if I were suddenly given free will I'd give it right back to Christ. I can't imagine that my choices would be better than what God could choose for me. I can't imagine to ever be better than God in anyway. In fact I depend on God being better than me, I depend on Christ being infallible because it wouldn't do me any good if Christ was fallible. It's like a wife who needs a strong husband, I guess.

I don't want you to go through that physical pain again, Pamela. I protest to the Lord that you are faced with the same thing you had gone through. God, there must be another way, but don't put her through that again! I'll stomp, yell, and plead, argue, reason, pray, and love you about the matter but don't put her through it again. God almighty and merciful, righteous and just, who has made all things, why? This is just a little thing? You made planets and stars, brought your word and made it flesh. Fed thousands with seven loaves of bread, brought a whole nation out of captivity. Must all your miracles be big and showy? Be a father, dear God and wipe a tear from a little boy's cheek, mend a little girl's heart, heal Pamela's back...it really is a small thing for you to do!

Isn't a child's smile worth more than his or her anguished frown? Joyous laughter is worth so much more than empty praise! Send a rain to a parched desert!

And give Fervent what he want's dear Christ. I believe it shall serve your purpose as all things do and I believe it is also what I want. And let him not wait any longer because man is certainly mortal and he withers away in the same day like flowers in a field. Sure your timing is what matters and it serves your purpose, but if I recall dear Lord a day to you is a thousand years to us, so don't ponder too long, for our sakes dear Christ! Time is short dear, Lord. Make the best of it for all who love you, for we are all in your care, beloved God!

One of the most heartfelt cries unto God I have ever been privy too... I see in it the same degree of plee that Abraham spake unto God...

Gen 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

HB....thank you...I am standing in 100% agreement with that prayer.

Hi,

This is the most poignant and honest thread I have ever read. I am
so touched and feeling this, too.

Let me add what the Lord is just showing me...Psalm 34 and I drop
verse 6 in for you. Read the entire Psalm.

"This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles".

It is a promise to me
from along time ago, and the promise...a blessing is still unfolding
like a rose. Read Proverbs 4:23

"Guard your heart for out of it flows a wellspring"

He wants our undivided attention...
and that embrace breaks us and makes into that something we
barely can grasp...for He chooses to overtake us with Himself...

I have had an Abraham type walk for almost 22 years...and yes,
the candle of His light proceeds us into the darkness of the unknown...
and yet we follow, somehow...it is called faith. It is our faith walk
not the middle ground...the very pangs of birthing...something new
in ourselves and with new ground given to Him of ourselves, a
tree puts forth fruit. He is the gardener of our lives, the husbandman
and He prunes for the sweetest fruit. High quality, costly and hand
picked...each one.

How do we know this? It says this:

Psalm 34: 18

"The Lords is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart, and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit".

Rejoice! We belong to Him.

Blessings,
signet

Psalm 34:17
When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears, and delivers them out of all their distress and troubles.


Pam I understand what you are saying.Its like your (our) options are getting smaller...If we walk with the Lord, He is making the path really narrow. We cannot move to the left or the right.
I am feeling the same thing.If I see a truth, that truth seems to burn up a lot of things that I did before, not just one.
For instance: I was also looking into faith..then God showed me the promises..then I saw that it all has been done at the cross....then God said: If you see it , what must change? Then I saw that if I believe it, I must add a work to my faith...so I went for prayer for my health...then the road became more narrow...if I believed I was healed, then would I keep on taking my pills...no....then they went down the drain...road more narrow....then I got a headache and I could not take a pill, but had to pray...and more stuff like that...so that road is getting very narrow now and I cannot get off !
I am starting to see the same thing happening with other things in my life. God is challenging me on my faith...put your money where your mouth is.

I know one thing: Our Father loves for us to be dependant on Him...to ask Him for all and everything.Its us that has to learn that we are welcome and loved.
love C

There was a song by a group some years ago. The group called
Second Chapter of Acts...the song went something like this

"I'll hide in the shadow of your wings while You sing over me. Sing
over me O God, sing over me. I'll hide in the shadow of your wings
while you sing over me."

I write this because the scripture I want to give here has this written
on the page next to it. I have no idea when I posted that here, I didn't
date it, however the scripture is this:

Zephaniah 3:14

"Sing, O daughter of Zion, shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem".

and at verse 17...

"The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; He will save, He will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in His love, He will joy over thee with singing".

and at another verse 17...also reference on this page.

Psalm 115:17

"The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence."

I am hearing that He would have all that read these words, His Word,
praise Him, even now, EVEN NOW! I AM GOING TO PRAISE THE
LORD RIGHT NOW! DON'T MISS HIM!

Blessings,
signet

"Tell My people that the thing I desire of them now is commitment. I am moving and working through those who are walking in the way of righteousness, never having seen yet having believed. This is the certain and powerful obedience to My admonition that "The just shall live by faith!"This is that which I seek of My own! I admonish My people that it is in those who set their hand to the plough and do not look back that I am well pleased and in whom I am bringing forth much fruit.

I am bridging the raging torrents against Me and you are the vessels of mercy through which I will perform all of My will! The seeming weakness of the flesh of those who favour My righteous cause is by far and away overshadowed by My goodness and power in a way in which you may never perceive this side of the Millennial reign.

For those who expect Me to move mountains and change the course set before you, I assuredly say unto you that there will be powerful advances in the lives and in the hearts of My little flock as they move out in faith to perform My ultimate will.

Continue to serve Me and to grow where you are planted, for I have a very fruitful vineyard in a very fruitful hill saith the Lord! I call you to the commitment which is meet for My righteous cause to be performed. I ask you to say continually let the Lord be magnified which hath pleasure in the prosperity of His servants! Say in faith and stand in faith upon My written word, "I will not fear evil tidings; my heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord."