This morning I kept having this re-occuring Vision. I know it was not a dream but somewhere between that sleep and awake stage. I would close my eyes and would see a "Huge Army Marching" It was if they were marching to War! This happened several times before I finally got up out of bed! I would open my eyes then as soon as I would close them again there the Military would be again! I could not see the clothes that the Military was wearing or their faces only their "Boots" I have looked all morning through pictures of these boots! The only way I can describe them would be the "Gestapo Boots" of Hitler's Army. They were very hight to the knee and black! I have a very troubled spirit! It seemed when I would see them that I was relating them to North Korea. I searched for pictures of their military but could not find what I was looking for. I am literally sick to my stomach as if this is something the Lord is showing me! I have gotten sick before when the Lord has shown me things. This is different! This is has made me severally sick at my stomach to the point of (sorry to be so graphic) but I think I will have to be hoovering the toliet! My chest is really feeling like someone is sitting on it and crushing me!
I am reminded of Daniel in Chapter 8: When he had received the vision and the scripture says he fainted and was sick certain days! If anyone feels lead of the Lord to share please do! The vision of my head is really troubling me. Also if someone comes across a picture of a military marching with these types of boots, please let me know!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Full Version: Who Is Marching To War?
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 3 2006, 11:01 AM) [snapback]86277[/snapback]
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seems that the A.O.C. is building a platform in a religious nature. through the U.N. on a global scale.......which is to be combined into this "Recommendation 666 Document"....and The E.N.P. (European Neighborhood Policy).......Their desire is Peace, security and a balance of religious harmony on a global scale.
Thank you... And yes, it does make you wonder.
I had a vision early this morning following a confusing dream...
I saw a coffee cup thrown to the ground and a booted Gestapo leg step it down.
I'm sure there have been many that never forgot those boots.....
The vision seems indicative of someone getting ready in a firm way to do something. Perhaps someone that's been standing by having a cup of coffee waiting..now done, throws it to the ground and steps on it with resolve...
Dreams and visions...who knows?
Yes with tears in my eyes that is what they looked like! I knew someone had said something about a vision they had.
The Lord had just lead me to Jeremiah 51:6-8 before you posted this Miki, I began to weep listen to what it says!
Jeremiah 51: 6-8
6. Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity: for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
7. Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken; the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
8. Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed :howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed!
Now I am really concerned about the dream I had with the 2nd Angel flying proclaiming "Babylon is Fallen!"
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=8438
Thanks for sharing,
Val
Messiahiscoming
The Lord had just lead me to Jeremiah 51:6-8 before you posted this Miki, I began to weep listen to what it says!
Jeremiah 51: 6-8
6. Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity: for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
7. Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken; the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
8. Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed :howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed!
Now I am really concerned about the dream I had with the 2nd Angel flying proclaiming "Babylon is Fallen!"
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=8438
Thanks for sharing,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Jeremiah 46: 28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I [am] with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.
Hope!
Hope!
QUOTE
"take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed!"
Thanks Miki I have started to clam down a bit! And thank you Dani! I feel your prayers. This sickness is starting to lighten up. One thing I did forget to share about the vision, was the sound of the boots hitting the pavement! I could hear them so clearly, the were in unison as they hit the concrete! I had a sense that they were near!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE
There is a balm in Gilead to make
the wounded whole.
There is a balm in Gilead to heal
the sin-sick soul.
One of these mornings bright and fair,
I’m gonna lay down my heavy load.
Gonna kick my wings and cleave the air,
I’m gonna lay down my heavy load.
the wounded whole.
There is a balm in Gilead to heal
the sin-sick soul.
One of these mornings bright and fair,
I’m gonna lay down my heavy load.
Gonna kick my wings and cleave the air,
I’m gonna lay down my heavy load.
It is scary to see judgement at hand...Let's remember the full context of Jeremiah...
In part here:
http://blueletterbible.org/Comm/ray_stedman/adv/adv_jer.html
Even unto the handmaidens of the Lord....
In part here:
QUOTE
"If you return, I will restore you, and you shall stand before me. If you utter what is precious, and not what is worthless, you shall be w my mouth. They shall turn to you, but you shall not turn to them. And I will make you to this people a fortified wall of bronze; they will fight against you, but they shall not prevail over you, for I am with you to save you and deliver you, says the Lord. I will deliver you out of the hand of the wicked, and redeem you from the grasp of the ruthless." (15:19-21)
QUOTE
And when from a mire of depression and discouragement, the prophet is called back to the promise of God; when he is reminded that God is greater than circumstances and that no matter how depressing they may be, or how negative, the God who calls him is the God who is able to sustain him in the midst of it; when he gets his eyes off himself and back on to God (like Peter walking on the water), he begins to walk again.
And in the strength he receives through this lesson he continues with his ministry, through all the discouraging circumstances, to at last be taken as a prisoner to Egypt, where he died. We have no record of his death, but Jeremiah was faithful to the end as he learned to walk in the strength of the Lord his God. And he gives us this wonderful prophecy of the grace of God in restoring lives and taking broken, battered, wounded, defeated spirits and making them over again into vessels pleasing to him.
And in the strength he receives through this lesson he continues with his ministry, through all the discouraging circumstances, to at last be taken as a prisoner to Egypt, where he died. We have no record of his death, but Jeremiah was faithful to the end as he learned to walk in the strength of the Lord his God. And he gives us this wonderful prophecy of the grace of God in restoring lives and taking broken, battered, wounded, defeated spirits and making them over again into vessels pleasing to him.
http://blueletterbible.org/Comm/ray_stedman/adv/adv_jer.html
Even unto the handmaidens of the Lord....
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 24 2006, 08:42 AM) [snapback]89159[/snapback]
It is scary to see judgement at hand...Let's remember the full context of Jeremiah...
In part here:
http://blueletterbible.org/Comm/ray_stedman/adv/adv_jer.html
Even unto the handmaidens of the Lord....
In part here:
QUOTE
"If you return, I will restore you, and you shall stand before me. If you utter what is precious, and not what is worthless, you shall be w my mouth. They shall turn to you, but you shall not turn to them. And I will make you to this people a fortified wall of bronze; they will fight against you, but they shall not prevail over you, for I am with you to save you and deliver you, says the Lord. I will deliver you out of the hand of the wicked, and redeem you from the grasp of the ruthless." (15:19-21)
QUOTE
And when from a mire of depression and discouragement, the prophet is called back to the promise of God; when he is reminded that God is greater than circumstances and that no matter how depressing they may be, or how negative, the God who calls him is the God who is able to sustain him in the midst of it; when he gets his eyes off himself and back on to God (like Peter walking on the water), he begins to walk again.
And in the strength he receives through this lesson he continues with his ministry, through all the discouraging circumstances, to at last be taken as a prisoner to Egypt, where he died. We have no record of his death, but Jeremiah was faithful to the end as he learned to walk in the strength of the Lord his God. And he gives us this wonderful prophecy of the grace of God in restoring lives and taking broken, battered, wounded, defeated spirits and making them over again into vessels pleasing to him.
And in the strength he receives through this lesson he continues with his ministry, through all the discouraging circumstances, to at last be taken as a prisoner to Egypt, where he died. We have no record of his death, but Jeremiah was faithful to the end as he learned to walk in the strength of the Lord his God. And he gives us this wonderful prophecy of the grace of God in restoring lives and taking broken, battered, wounded, defeated spirits and making them over again into vessels pleasing to him.
http://blueletterbible.org/Comm/ray_stedman/adv/adv_jer.html
Even unto the handmaidens of the Lord....
Miki! Once again this could only have came from the Father! You see the verse you just quoted was a verse the Lord gave to me many years ago as a promise to me! I was raised in church but did not come to give my heart to the Lord until I was 26. This was the 1st promise that the Lord shared with me! He told me if I would return to Him that He would use me to speak!
Remember the thread I started a while ago I spoke of it there!
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...pic=8041&hl=
Thank You Lord and Miki for giving me my confirmation!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Acts 2:16-18
No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
Dear Val,
God has blessed you with a difficult vision to bear.
Do not fear or be dismayed.
Be strong and courageous.
God is using you to give a warning to his people, to turn their hearts to him.
What does it say at the end of all your posts?
Amos 3:7
"Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
I am very blessed by knowing you and humbled that he found me worthy to receive his warning.
I will not fear, but turn to him in prayer and fasting. I am praying for you, that he will strengthen you and take away the sickness and replace it with his perfect peace.
May God bless you and protect you and all who heed his warning.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
God has blessed you with a difficult vision to bear.
Do not fear or be dismayed.
Be strong and courageous.
God is using you to give a warning to his people, to turn their hearts to him.
What does it say at the end of all your posts?
Amos 3:7
"Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
I am very blessed by knowing you and humbled that he found me worthy to receive his warning.
I will not fear, but turn to him in prayer and fasting. I am praying for you, that he will strengthen you and take away the sickness and replace it with his perfect peace.
May God bless you and protect you and all who heed his warning.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
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Acts 2:16-18
No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
Yes I know that you spoke of that as well, but I was refering to this quote that was in you Post!
QUOTE"If you return, I will restore you, and you shall stand before me. If you utter what is precious, and not what is worthless, you shall be w my mouth. They shall turn to you, but you shall not turn to them. And I will make you to this people a fortified wall of bronze; they will fight against you, but they shall not prevail over you, for I am with you to save you and deliver you, says the Lord. I will deliver you out of the hand of the wicked, and redeem you from the grasp of the ruthless." (15:19-21) Oh I certainly feel we are in the days of Joel's prophecies!
Val Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Oct 24 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]89164[/snapback]
Dear Val,
God has blessed you with a difficult vision to bear.
Do not fear or be dismayed.
Be strong and courageous.
God is using you to give a warning to his people, to turn their hearts to him.
What does it say at the end of all your posts?
Amos 3:7
"Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
I am very blessed by knowing you and humbled that he found me worthy to receive his warning.
I will not fear, but turn to him in prayer and fasting. I am praying for you, that he will strengthen you and take away the sickness and replace it with his perfect peace.
May God bless you and protect you and all who heed his warning.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
God has blessed you with a difficult vision to bear.
Do not fear or be dismayed.
Be strong and courageous.
God is using you to give a warning to his people, to turn their hearts to him.
What does it say at the end of all your posts?
Amos 3:7
"Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
I am very blessed by knowing you and humbled that he found me worthy to receive his warning.
I will not fear, but turn to him in prayer and fasting. I am praying for you, that he will strengthen you and take away the sickness and replace it with his perfect peace.
May God bless you and protect you and all who heed his warning.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Don thank you for your kind words! I feel a little better. Thank you for your prayers they are much appreciated! You are a Godly man and I look up to you greatly. All I could do when the Lord lead me to Jeremiah this morning was cry out loud “OH Lord I pray that we are all Ready!” “Lord please let my children and my
Friends be ready!” I am ready to face the Lord but the Fear is for
All of the unsuspecting! May the Lord open their eyes to receive
The truth! May the Lord bless you.
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Oct 24 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]89142[/snapback]
This morning I kept having this re-occuring Vision. I know it was not a dream but somewhere between that sleep and awake stage. I would close my eyes and would see a "Huge Army Marching" It was if they were marching to War! This happened several times before I finally got up out of bed! I would open my eyes then as soon as I would close them again there the Military would be again! I could not see the clothes that the Military was wearing or their faces only their "Boots" I have looked all morning through pictures of these boots! The only way I can describe them would be the "Gestapo Boots" of Hitler's Army. They were very hight to the knee and black! I have a very troubled spirit! It seemed when I would see them that I was relating them to North Korea. I searched for pictures of their military but could not find what I was looking for. I am literally sick to my stomach as if this is something the Lord is showing me! I have gotten sick before when the Lord has shown me things. This is different! This is has made me severally sick at my stomach to the point of (sorry to be so graphic) but I think I will have to be hoovering the toliet! My chest is really feeling like someone is sitting on it and crushing me!
I am reminded of Daniel in Chapter 8: When he had received the vision and the scripture says he fainted and was sick certain days! If anyone feels lead of the Lord to share please do! The vision of my head is really troubling me. Also if someone comes across a picture of a military marching with these types of boots, please let me know!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
" I have a very troubled spirit! It seemed when I would see them that I was relating them to North Korea."
This stuck out with me in your vision... I think also posted this dream before. I received this dream over 3 years ago. But waht reminded me was that there was a scence in this night vision that reminded me of Hitler as well. You can read it on the other forum I at here:
http://www.xsorbit4.com/users/commonbiblic...767&start=4
OH VAL!!!
Praise God for your faithfulness. Praise the Lord that you are found worthy to reveal the secrets of the Most High!!!
I thank You, Father God, for those in Your Kingdom that pray, that fast, that seek Your face. Thank You that we reep what they have sown. Thank You for never keeping Your people in the dark- that You provide protection and solice for Your sheep.
Jesus, I pray that the peace that passes all understanding will surround and indwell my dear sister Valerie today. Lift the burden, Jesus.
Lord, I pray for America! Tell us Your will. Reveal it to us so that we might be do what You say.
I love You. Thank You Father for this warning. I am humbled. In Jesus' Name I pray. Amen.
Praise God for your faithfulness. Praise the Lord that you are found worthy to reveal the secrets of the Most High!!!
I thank You, Father God, for those in Your Kingdom that pray, that fast, that seek Your face. Thank You that we reep what they have sown. Thank You for never keeping Your people in the dark- that You provide protection and solice for Your sheep.
Jesus, I pray that the peace that passes all understanding will surround and indwell my dear sister Valerie today. Lift the burden, Jesus.
Lord, I pray for America! Tell us Your will. Reveal it to us so that we might be do what You say.
I love You. Thank You Father for this warning. I am humbled. In Jesus' Name I pray. Amen.
I do not know about the boots, but I do know that the "goosestep" (nazis marching style) is very popular among the communists, including North Korea.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Your brother in Christ,
Don
yes Adonai. Here's a pic:
I know you were Val. I see the continuity here.
OK. I didn't post this until I was SURE that my memory was serving me correctly. If I am able to get the pm and show the exact date I got this vision, I'll be sure to post it.
I had a vision while praying in the shower several weeks ago. I dreamed that I saw a big black boot try to crush me. It was like I was under a very strong pexi-glass/glass surface looking up. I thought that it was only for me- perhaps it was to add here.
My eyes were closed, I was praying. I remember the boot coming down like like a big gigantic footstep...
Again... if I can get the original pm describing the vision to a friend, I will post it here.
Later, after pondering the vision, I went to the bible and found one verse with "boot" in it- Isaiah 9:5. Here is the entire chapter:
To Us a Child Is Born
1 Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan-
2 The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
a light has dawned.
3 You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as men rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
4 For as in the day of Midian's defeat,
you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them,
the bar across their shoulders,
the rod of their oppressor.
5 Every warrior's boot used in battle
and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning,
will be fuel for the fire.
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.
The Lord 's Anger Against Israel
8 The Lord has sent a message against Jacob;
it will fall on Israel.
9 All the people will know it—
Ephraim and the inhabitants of Samaria—
who say with pride
and arrogance of heart,
10 "The bricks have fallen down,
but we will rebuild with dressed stone;
the fig trees have been felled,
but we will replace them with cedars."
11 But the LORD has strengthened Rezin's foes against them
and has spurred their enemies on.
12 Arameans from the east and Philistines from the west
have devoured Israel with open mouth.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
13 But the people have not returned to him who struck them,
nor have they sought the LORD Almighty.
14 So the LORD will cut off from Israel both head and tail,
both palm branch and reed in a single day;
15 the elders and prominent men are the head,
the prophets who teach lies are the tail.
16 Those who guide this people mislead them,
and those who are guided are led astray.
17 Therefore the Lord will take no pleasure in the young men,
nor will he pity the fatherless and widows,
for everyone is ungodly and wicked,
every mouth speaks vileness.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
18 Surely wickedness burns like a fire;
it consumes briers and thorns,
it sets the forest thickets ablaze,
so that it rolls upward in a column of smoke.
19 By the wrath of the LORD Almighty
the land will be scorched
and the people will be fuel for the fire;
no one will spare his brother.
20 On the right they will devour,
but still be hungry;
on the left they will eat,
but not be satisfied.
Each will feed on the flesh of his own offspring:
21 Manasseh will feed on Ephraim, and Ephraim on Manasseh;
together they will turn against Judah.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
__________________________________
There is hope here!!!
MIKI... we will sing for Him!!!
I had a vision while praying in the shower several weeks ago. I dreamed that I saw a big black boot try to crush me. It was like I was under a very strong pexi-glass/glass surface looking up. I thought that it was only for me- perhaps it was to add here.
My eyes were closed, I was praying. I remember the boot coming down like like a big gigantic footstep...
Again... if I can get the original pm describing the vision to a friend, I will post it here.
Later, after pondering the vision, I went to the bible and found one verse with "boot" in it- Isaiah 9:5. Here is the entire chapter:
To Us a Child Is Born
1 Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan-
2 The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
a light has dawned.
3 You have enlarged the nation
and increased their joy;
they rejoice before you
as people rejoice at the harvest,
as men rejoice
when dividing the plunder.
4 For as in the day of Midian's defeat,
you have shattered
the yoke that burdens them,
the bar across their shoulders,
the rod of their oppressor.
5 Every warrior's boot used in battle
and every garment rolled in blood
will be destined for burning,
will be fuel for the fire.
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.
The Lord 's Anger Against Israel
8 The Lord has sent a message against Jacob;
it will fall on Israel.
9 All the people will know it—
Ephraim and the inhabitants of Samaria—
who say with pride
and arrogance of heart,
10 "The bricks have fallen down,
but we will rebuild with dressed stone;
the fig trees have been felled,
but we will replace them with cedars."
11 But the LORD has strengthened Rezin's foes against them
and has spurred their enemies on.
12 Arameans from the east and Philistines from the west
have devoured Israel with open mouth.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
13 But the people have not returned to him who struck them,
nor have they sought the LORD Almighty.
14 So the LORD will cut off from Israel both head and tail,
both palm branch and reed in a single day;
15 the elders and prominent men are the head,
the prophets who teach lies are the tail.
16 Those who guide this people mislead them,
and those who are guided are led astray.
17 Therefore the Lord will take no pleasure in the young men,
nor will he pity the fatherless and widows,
for everyone is ungodly and wicked,
every mouth speaks vileness.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
18 Surely wickedness burns like a fire;
it consumes briers and thorns,
it sets the forest thickets ablaze,
so that it rolls upward in a column of smoke.
19 By the wrath of the LORD Almighty
the land will be scorched
and the people will be fuel for the fire;
no one will spare his brother.
20 On the right they will devour,
but still be hungry;
on the left they will eat,
but not be satisfied.
Each will feed on the flesh of his own offspring:
21 Manasseh will feed on Ephraim, and Ephraim on Manasseh;
together they will turn against Judah.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
__________________________________
There is hope here!!!
MIKI... we will sing for Him!!!
QUOTE(1LikeDeborah @ Oct 24 2006, 10:25 AM) [snapback]89169[/snapback]
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Oct 24 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]89142[/snapback]
This morning I kept having this re-occuring Vision. I know it was not a dream but somewhere between that sleep and awake stage. I would close my eyes and would see a "Huge Army Marching" It was if they were marching to War! This happened several times before I finally got up out of bed! I would open my eyes then as soon as I would close them again there the Military would be again! I could not see the clothes that the Military was wearing or their faces only their "Boots" I have looked all morning through pictures of these boots! The only way I can describe them would be the "Gestapo Boots" of Hitler's Army. They were very hight to the knee and black! I have a very troubled spirit! It seemed when I would see them that I was relating them to North Korea. I searched for pictures of their military but could not find what I was looking for. I am literally sick to my stomach as if this is something the Lord is showing me! I have gotten sick before when the Lord has shown me things. This is different! This is has made me severally sick at my stomach to the point of (sorry to be so graphic) but I think I will have to be hoovering the toliet! My chest is really feeling like someone is sitting on it and crushing me!
I am reminded of Daniel in Chapter 8: When he had received the vision and the scripture says he fainted and was sick certain days! If anyone feels lead of the Lord to share please do! The vision of my head is really troubling me. Also if someone comes across a picture of a military marching with these types of boots, please let me know!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
" I have a very troubled spirit! It seemed when I would see them that I was relating them to North Korea."
This stuck out with me in your vision... I think also posted this dream before. I received this dream over 3 years ago. But waht reminded me was that there was a scence in this night vision that reminded me of Hitler as well. You can read it on the other forum I at here:
http://www.xsorbit4.com/users/commonbiblic...767&start=4
Hey thanks for sharing your dream I just had a chance to read it! I pray that this is not in store for us!
I just spoke with Julie and she said that she had a vision of a black boot awhile back. I do not think this is all a coincidence!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
QUOTE(jhamner @ Oct 24 2006, 12:54 PM) [snapback]89188[/snapback]
yes Adonai. Here's a pic:
Yes Don and Julie this is the way they were marching! I could only see from the knee
down. I think I said this but their pants were tucked in their boots.
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
The goose step is used by North Korea, China, Russia and some islamists.
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
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One rapid but fairly sure guide to the social atmosphere of a country is the parade-step of its army. … The goose-step, for instance, is one of the most horrible sights in the world, far more terrifying than a dive-bomber. It is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face. Its ugliness is part of its essence, for what it is saying is "Yes, I am ugly, and you daren't laugh at me." … Beyond a certain point, military display is only possible in countries where the common people dare not laugh at the army.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Oct 24 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]89217[/snapback]
The goose step is used by North Korea, China, Russia and some islamists.
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
QUOTE
One rapid but fairly sure guide to the social atmosphere of a country is the parade-step of its army. … The goose-step, for instance, is one of the most horrible sights in the world, far more terrifying than a dive-bomber. It is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face. Its ugliness is part of its essence, for what it is saying is "Yes, I am ugly, and you daren't laugh at me." … Beyond a certain point, military display is only possible in countries where the common people dare not laugh at the army.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Yes, Yes Don! When I read that paragraph it took me back to this morning! That was what it made me feel like! It was certainly not a sense of joy of a Military Parade, but brought on feelings of inferiority of a Mighty Power!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Oct 24 2006, 04:55 PM) [snapback]89217[/snapback]
The goose step is used by North Korea, China, Russia and some islamists.
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
QUOTE
One rapid but fairly sure guide to the social atmosphere of a country is the parade-step of its army. … The goose-step, for instance, is one of the most horrible sights in the world, far more terrifying than a dive-bomber. It is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face. Its ugliness is part of its essence, for what it is saying is "Yes, I am ugly, and you daren't laugh at me." … Beyond a certain point, military display is only possible in countries where the common people dare not laugh at the army.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
WOW! The part that got me was the "crashing down on a face". That's what I assumed the enemy was trying to do to me- crush me in the face. But... I was protected by the glass. Glory to God in the Highest!
God generously give us warnings, not to fear but to be ready.
John 16
33These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Be at peace and know that the ultimate victory is our Lord's.
Psalm 11
1In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
2For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
3If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
4The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
7For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
Whatever happens, remember that God is in control and he will be glorified in the end.
John 16
33These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Be at peace and know that the ultimate victory is our Lord's.
Psalm 11
1In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
2For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
3If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
4The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
7For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
Whatever happens, remember that God is in control and he will be glorified in the end.
Julie Quote:
WOW! The part that got me was the "crashing down on a face". That's what I assumed the enemy was trying to do to me- crush me in the face. But... I was protected by the glass. Glory to God in the Highest!
Julie I was reminded of your vision when I read Don's post! God is our shield and our fortress!
Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Don this is the verse that I thought of when I just read your last post:
Psalm 118:6
The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
Praise the Lord we are on the winning side!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
WOW! The part that got me was the "crashing down on a face". That's what I assumed the enemy was trying to do to me- crush me in the face. But... I was protected by the glass. Glory to God in the Highest!
Julie I was reminded of your vision when I read Don's post! God is our shield and our fortress!
Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Don this is the verse that I thought of when I just read your last post:
Psalm 118:6
The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
Praise the Lord we are on the winning side!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Jhammer, would you mind telling what portion of scripture that is from?
Thanks everyone.... for your attention to the voice of the Spirit.
Thanks everyone.... for your attention to the voice of the Spirit.
Miki I think it is Isaiah 9.
Val
Messiahiscoming
Val
Messiahiscoming
Thanks Val!! 
Yes, Isaiah 9.
Yes, Isaiah 9.
QUOTE(jhamner @ Oct 24 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]89241[/snapback]
Thanks Val!!
Yes, Isaiah 9.A little side note here--- There is more behind the scenes here. I belong to two christian dream forums and I am not sure if I can accesss the dream in the archives their(if I find it I will post it). This was not a dream that I received but soemone else's anyway too---but it came to mind. Basically the dream was about the whitehouse being taken over by "nazis".
A few years ago company named ABB based in Zurich sold nuclear reactors and technology to N. Korea---(by the way you will not find this on American news of course but it is a fact!), Donald Rumsfled sat on the board for ABB during the time of this transaction. The Guardian originally reported it in 2003.
You can read about it here if you were unware of this:
http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specia...es/10549-1.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,...,952289,00.html
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/20...article04.shtml
[quote name='1LikeDeborah' date='Oct 25 2006, 04:49 AM' post='89262'] [quote name='jhamner' post='89241' date='Oct 24 2006, 09:19 PM']
Thanks Val!! Yes, Isaiah 9.
[/quote]
A little side note here--- There is more behind the scenes here. I belong to two christian dream forums and I am not sure if I can accesss the dream in the archives their(if I find it I will post it). This was not a dream that I received but soemone else's anyway too---but it came to mind. Basically the dream was about the whitehouse being taken over by "nazis".
A few years ago company named ABB based in Zurich sold nuclear reactors and technology to N. Korea---(by the way you will not find this on American news of course but it is a fact!), Donald Rumsfled sat on the board for ABB during the time of this transaction. The Guardian originally reported it in 2003.
You can read about it here if you were unware of this:
http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specia...es/10549-1.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,...,952289,00.html
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/20...article04.shtml
Thanks for the Information! I will certainly be checking this all out, I have never heard of any of this before. What does the ABB stand for? That is crazy if that is the case!
Your friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Thanks Val!!
Yes, Isaiah 9.[/quote]
A little side note here--- There is more behind the scenes here. I belong to two christian dream forums and I am not sure if I can accesss the dream in the archives their(if I find it I will post it). This was not a dream that I received but soemone else's anyway too---but it came to mind. Basically the dream was about the whitehouse being taken over by "nazis".
A few years ago company named ABB based in Zurich sold nuclear reactors and technology to N. Korea---(by the way you will not find this on American news of course but it is a fact!), Donald Rumsfled sat on the board for ABB during the time of this transaction. The Guardian originally reported it in 2003.
You can read about it here if you were unware of this:
http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specia...es/10549-1.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,...,952289,00.html
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/20...article04.shtml
Thanks for the Information! I will certainly be checking this all out, I have never heard of any of this before. What does the ABB stand for? That is crazy if that is the case!
Your friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Changing seasons
God in his infinite wisdom, does not have the seasons change from the extreme heat of summer to the extreme cold of winter. He gives us warnings, the days slowly grow shorter and the nights grow colder. Then the slight chill of fall can be felt during the day and we start wearing warmer and warmer clothes. We prepare for the winter, making sure we have warm clothes and the means to heat the house and enough food to eat.
So it is, God is giving us warning that war is coming. When? It might be a day, a month, a year, ten years... I don't know, but I'm at peace and I'm ready because he is my rock and my fortress. If God is on your side, you cannot lose. Is anything impossible for God? That doesn't mean that there won't be difficulties and bloodshed, but if you turn to God with your whole heart, he will guide you and protect you. I saw the wicked with great power and yet he passed away, he was cut down like grass. Then the meek shall inherit the earth
and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psalm 37
1Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
2For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
4Delight thyself also in the LORD: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
5Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
6And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
7Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13The LORD shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
14The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
16A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
17For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
18The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
19They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
21The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
22For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
23The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
24Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
25I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
26He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
27Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
28For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
30The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
31The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
32The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
33The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
34Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
35I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
36Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
37Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.
38But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
39But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.
40And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
God in his infinite wisdom, does not have the seasons change from the extreme heat of summer to the extreme cold of winter. He gives us warnings, the days slowly grow shorter and the nights grow colder. Then the slight chill of fall can be felt during the day and we start wearing warmer and warmer clothes. We prepare for the winter, making sure we have warm clothes and the means to heat the house and enough food to eat.
So it is, God is giving us warning that war is coming. When? It might be a day, a month, a year, ten years... I don't know, but I'm at peace and I'm ready because he is my rock and my fortress. If God is on your side, you cannot lose. Is anything impossible for God? That doesn't mean that there won't be difficulties and bloodshed, but if you turn to God with your whole heart, he will guide you and protect you. I saw the wicked with great power and yet he passed away, he was cut down like grass. Then the meek shall inherit the earth
and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psalm 37
1Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
2For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
4Delight thyself also in the LORD: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
5Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
6And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
7Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13The LORD shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
14The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
16A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
17For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
18The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
19They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
21The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
22For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
23The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
24Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
25I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
26He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
27Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
28For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
30The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
31The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
32The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
33The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
34Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
35I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
36Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
37Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.
38But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
39But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.
40And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
1LikeDeb:
Even if there was this dark web of corruption...what is it to us but another warning to draw close to the Lord as Adonaicole has posted in Ps 37.
We can't do anything about it. WE JUST TRUST THE LORD...
Even if there was this dark web of corruption...what is it to us but another warning to draw close to the Lord as Adonaicole has posted in Ps 37.
We can't do anything about it. WE JUST TRUST THE LORD...
QUOTE
40And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
This comes from an earlier post in Current events:
Israeli jets fire over German navy ship off Lebanon Wednesday October 25, 06:21 PM
Germany assumed command of a United Nations naval force off Lebanon 10 days ago, and has sent eight ships and 1,000 service personnel to join the international peace operation in the region.
The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
Whiteknight........
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.
By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
Israeli jets fire over German navy ship off Lebanon Wednesday October 25, 06:21 PM
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Germany assumed command of a United Nations naval force off Lebanon 10 days ago, and has sent eight ships and 1,000 service personnel to join the international peace operation in the region.
The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 26 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]89388[/snapback]
Whiteknight........
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
Do I hear the Sounds of War?
Justpassingthrough
Justpassingthrough
Yes, we are moving towards M A R T I A L
L A W!
As I said in another post, (using French, the "Language that Reveals"), the NAZIS were marching the GOOSE STEP
"GOOSE STEP" is in French "PAS DE L'OIE"
"PAS DE L'OIE" rings like "PAS DE LOI" (NO LAW!!!)
L A W!
As I said in another post, (using French, the "Language that Reveals"), the NAZIS were marching the GOOSE STEP
"GOOSE STEP" is in French "PAS DE L'OIE"
"PAS DE L'OIE" rings like "PAS DE LOI" (NO LAW!!!)
I hear this song as a negitive voice from the enemy... It's his intense desire..to walk all over you!
I recently posted and article on Walid Shoebot under 'Signs of the Times'. I watched on television last night. The timing according to these visions was perfect.
Here's a quote:
This was an incredible testimony in reference to the warning given.
Grand Mufti Al-Husayni inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni
also:
I recently posted and article on Walid Shoebot under 'Signs of the Times'. I watched on television last night. The timing according to these visions was perfect.
Here's a quote:
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Born in Bethlehem of Judea, Walid's grandfather was the Muslim Mukhtar (chieftain) of Beit Sahour-Bethlehem (The Shepherd's Fields) and a friend of Haj-Ameen Al-Husseni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and notorious friend of Adolf Hitler.
This was an incredible testimony in reference to the warning given.
Grand Mufti Al-Husayni inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni
QUOTE
In Nazi-occupied Europe
Al-Husayni and Adolf Hitler (1941)
Al-Husayni inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruitsUpon al-Husayni's arrival in Europe, he met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941 and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland". Earlier, al-Hussayni submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing a clause:
Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.[3]
Hitler refused to make such a public announcement, but "made the following declaration, requesting the Mufti to lock it deep in his heart:
He (the Führer) would carry on the fight until the last traces of the Jewish-Communist European hegemony had been obliterated.
In the course of this fight, the German army would - at a time that could not yet be specified, but in any case in the clearly foreseeable future - gain the southern exit of Caucasus.
As soon as this breakthrough was made, the Führer would offer the Arab world his personal assurance that the hour of liberation had struck. Thereafter, Germany's only remaining objective in the region would be limited to the Vernichtung des...Judentums ['destruction of the Jewish element', sometimes taken to be a euphemism for 'annihilation of the Jews'] living under British protection in Arab lands.." [4]
Al-Husayni and Adolf Hitler (1941)
Al-Husayni inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruitsUpon al-Husayni's arrival in Europe, he met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941 and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland". Earlier, al-Hussayni submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing a clause:
Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.[3]
Hitler refused to make such a public announcement, but "made the following declaration, requesting the Mufti to lock it deep in his heart:
He (the Führer) would carry on the fight until the last traces of the Jewish-Communist European hegemony had been obliterated.
In the course of this fight, the German army would - at a time that could not yet be specified, but in any case in the clearly foreseeable future - gain the southern exit of Caucasus.
As soon as this breakthrough was made, the Führer would offer the Arab world his personal assurance that the hour of liberation had struck. Thereafter, Germany's only remaining objective in the region would be limited to the Vernichtung des...Judentums ['destruction of the Jewish element', sometimes taken to be a euphemism for 'annihilation of the Jews'] living under British protection in Arab lands.." [4]
also:
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Mufti's influence
The Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry's report dated April 20, 1946 says: "The flight of the Mufti, Haj Amin el-Husseini, to Italy and Germany, and his active support of the Axis, did not lose for him his following, and he is probably the most popular Arab leader in Palestine today." (Appendix IV. Palestine: Historical Background. The Arabs and the War)
Yasser Arafat's interview with the London-based Arabic language newspaper Al Sharq al Awsat was reprinted by a leading Palestinian daily Al Quds (August 2, 2002):
Interviewer: I have heard voices from within the Palestinian Authority in the past few weeks, saying that the reforms are coordinated according to American whims...
Arafat: We are not Afghanistan. We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin al-Husseini?... There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, whom they considered an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 war, and I was one of his troops."
According to John Marlowe, "The dominant figure in Palestine during the Mandate years was neither an Englishman nor a Jew, but an Arab — Haj Amin Muhammed Effendi al Husaini... Able, ambitious, ruthless, humourless, and incorruptible, he was of the authentic stuff of which dictators are made."
The Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry's report dated April 20, 1946 says: "The flight of the Mufti, Haj Amin el-Husseini, to Italy and Germany, and his active support of the Axis, did not lose for him his following, and he is probably the most popular Arab leader in Palestine today." (Appendix IV. Palestine: Historical Background. The Arabs and the War)
Yasser Arafat's interview with the London-based Arabic language newspaper Al Sharq al Awsat was reprinted by a leading Palestinian daily Al Quds (August 2, 2002):
Interviewer: I have heard voices from within the Palestinian Authority in the past few weeks, saying that the reforms are coordinated according to American whims...
Arafat: We are not Afghanistan. We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin al-Husseini?... There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, whom they considered an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 war, and I was one of his troops."
According to John Marlowe, "The dominant figure in Palestine during the Mandate years was neither an Englishman nor a Jew, but an Arab — Haj Amin Muhammed Effendi al Husaini... Able, ambitious, ruthless, humourless, and incorruptible, he was of the authentic stuff of which dictators are made."
QUOTE
November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti:
"To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.
Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"
"To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.
Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"
Did you hear about the Christian homeschoolers in Germany this week...the police ransacked their homes and stripsearched all of the parents and children.
POLICE STATE, DEUTSCHLAND
Achtung! Germany drags homeschool kids to class
Authorities haul crying children away to avoid 'danger' from parental teachings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 25, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
A Nazi-era law requiring all children to attend public school, to avoid "the emergence of parallel societies based on separate philosophical convictions" that could be taught by parents at home, apparently is triggering a Nazi-like response from police.
The word comes from Netzwerk Bildungsfreiheit, or Network for Freedom in Education, which confirmed that children in a family in Bissingen, in the state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, have been forcibly hauled to a public school.
"On Friday 20 October 2006 at around 7:30 a.m. the children of a home educating family ... were brought under duress to school by police," the organization, which describes itself as politically and religiously neutral, confirmed.
A separate weblog in the United States noted the same tragedy.
Homeschoolblogger.com noted that the "three children were picked up by the police and escorted to school in Baden-Wurttemberg, with the 'promise' that it would happen again this week."
The Network for Freedom in Education, through spokesman Joerg Grosseluemern, said the Remeike family has been "home educating their children since the start of the school year, something which is legal in practically the whole of the (European Union)."
"However, on this morning, they were confronted by police officials, who, in an incredibly inconsiderate manner, forced their crying children into a police car and drove them to the school. The police stated that they had been instructed to continue this measure in the coming week," the network statement said.
The network noted that the previous Minister of Education, Annette Schavan, had said such actions were not needed, because "... the children are generally not lacking in any other respects." Officials at that time, in 2002, confirmed that "forcible methods" generally are "not in the long-term interests of either the children or the police."
However, the network noted the priorities of current officials obviously are different.
"The family involved emphasizes that their children are neither truant nor school deniers, which are the cases for which such measures were intended," said the network's statement, a translation from the original German. "The Remeike family is fulfilling their children's right to an education by educating them at home, with the support of teachers from a distance learning academy, which also supplies the necessary material."
School arguments that homeschooling endangers the welfare of the children "lacks any factual foundation," the network statement said.
"Tearing the children from the bosom of their family by forcing certainly does not contribute to their welfare. The result is more likely to be traumatisation and the development of an aversion to instruments of state authority," the statement said.
No comment could be obtained immediately from school or police officials.
"The Netzwerk Bildungsfreiheit strongly empathises with the Romeike family, whom many of us know personally to be an intact and conscience-driven family. We condemn the degrading act carried out by the police as a blatant breach of the personal rights of individual family members and call for the Mayor of Bissingen, as well as the Office for Education of the District Authorities of Esslingen, to end these sanctions…"
The American blog noted that several other homeschooling parents recently have been fined or imprisoned for brief jail terms for teaching their children at home.
The blog reported that one mother spending a few days in jail for providing homeschooling for her child "ended up leading a Bible study for women who have begged her to come back."
It reported another family was fined $2,250 and members were being attacked emotionally so that the father handed a nervous breakdown that landed him in a hospital. The family put their two children in a public school "but it was so awful, they pulled them out again … and put them in a public Catholic school."
It also contained reports that Waldemar Block, the father of nine, was arrested at his work earlier this month and jailed for 13 days, while Olga Block, his sister-in-law, was jailed for 10 days for not paying fines after she sent her children to a Christian school in Heidelberg.
The Home School Legal Defense Association, the largest homeschooling group in the U.S. with more than 80,000 families, also has been working to raise attention in the international community to the plight of German homeschoolers, including several families in the Baden-Wurttemberg region.
The group suggested contacting the German embassy, which had an answering machine attached to the telephone line when WND left a request for comment yesterday.
The HSLDA said that contact is:
Wolfgang Ischinger Ambassador German Embassy 4645 Reservoir Road NW Washington, DC, 20007-1998 (202) 298-4000 or it can be e-mailed from its its website.
The U.S. organization also noted that homeschooling has been illegal in Germany probably since 1938 when Hitler banned it. It recently announced a campaign to address the persecution Christians in Germany are facing from education authorities.
Ian Slatter, a spokesman for the HSLDA, said it was launched after a mother was arrested and jailed on criminal homeschooling counts.
In that case, according to a report in the Brussels Journal, Katharina Plett was arrested and ordered to jail while her husband fled to Austria with the family's 12 children.
The latest police-state actions follow by only weeks a recent ruling from the European Human Rights Court that affirmed the German nation's ban on homeschooling.
The Strasburg-based court addressed the issue on appeal from a Christian family whose members alleged their human rights to educate their own children according to their own religious beliefs are being violated by the ban.
The specific case addressed in the opinion involved Fritz and Marianna Konrad, who filed the complaint in 2003 and argued that Germany's compulsory school attendance endangered their children's religious upbringing and promotes teaching inconsistent with the family's Christian faith.
The court said the Konrads belong to a "Christian community which is strongly attached to the Bible" and rejected public schooling because of the explicit sexual indoctrination programs that the courses there include.
The German court already had ruled that the parental "wish" to have their children grow up in a home without such influences "could not take priority over compulsory school attendance." The decision also said the parents do not have an "exclusive" right to lead their children's education.
The family had appealed under the European Convention on Human Rights statement that: "No person shall be denied the right to education. In the exercise of any functions which it assumes in relation to education and to teaching, the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching is in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions."
But the court's ruling said, instead, that schools represent society, and "it was in the children's interest to become part of that society.
"The parents' right to education did not go as far as to deprive their children of that experience," the ruling said.
POLICE STATE, DEUTSCHLAND
Achtung! Germany drags homeschool kids to class
Authorities haul crying children away to avoid 'danger' from parental teachings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 25, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
A Nazi-era law requiring all children to attend public school, to avoid "the emergence of parallel societies based on separate philosophical convictions" that could be taught by parents at home, apparently is triggering a Nazi-like response from police.
The word comes from Netzwerk Bildungsfreiheit, or Network for Freedom in Education, which confirmed that children in a family in Bissingen, in the state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, have been forcibly hauled to a public school.
"On Friday 20 October 2006 at around 7:30 a.m. the children of a home educating family ... were brought under duress to school by police," the organization, which describes itself as politically and religiously neutral, confirmed.
A separate weblog in the United States noted the same tragedy.
Homeschoolblogger.com noted that the "three children were picked up by the police and escorted to school in Baden-Wurttemberg, with the 'promise' that it would happen again this week."
The Network for Freedom in Education, through spokesman Joerg Grosseluemern, said the Remeike family has been "home educating their children since the start of the school year, something which is legal in practically the whole of the (European Union)."
"However, on this morning, they were confronted by police officials, who, in an incredibly inconsiderate manner, forced their crying children into a police car and drove them to the school. The police stated that they had been instructed to continue this measure in the coming week," the network statement said.
The network noted that the previous Minister of Education, Annette Schavan, had said such actions were not needed, because "... the children are generally not lacking in any other respects." Officials at that time, in 2002, confirmed that "forcible methods" generally are "not in the long-term interests of either the children or the police."
However, the network noted the priorities of current officials obviously are different.
"The family involved emphasizes that their children are neither truant nor school deniers, which are the cases for which such measures were intended," said the network's statement, a translation from the original German. "The Remeike family is fulfilling their children's right to an education by educating them at home, with the support of teachers from a distance learning academy, which also supplies the necessary material."
School arguments that homeschooling endangers the welfare of the children "lacks any factual foundation," the network statement said.
"Tearing the children from the bosom of their family by forcing certainly does not contribute to their welfare. The result is more likely to be traumatisation and the development of an aversion to instruments of state authority," the statement said.
No comment could be obtained immediately from school or police officials.
"The Netzwerk Bildungsfreiheit strongly empathises with the Romeike family, whom many of us know personally to be an intact and conscience-driven family. We condemn the degrading act carried out by the police as a blatant breach of the personal rights of individual family members and call for the Mayor of Bissingen, as well as the Office for Education of the District Authorities of Esslingen, to end these sanctions…"
The American blog noted that several other homeschooling parents recently have been fined or imprisoned for brief jail terms for teaching their children at home.
The blog reported that one mother spending a few days in jail for providing homeschooling for her child "ended up leading a Bible study for women who have begged her to come back."
It reported another family was fined $2,250 and members were being attacked emotionally so that the father handed a nervous breakdown that landed him in a hospital. The family put their two children in a public school "but it was so awful, they pulled them out again … and put them in a public Catholic school."
It also contained reports that Waldemar Block, the father of nine, was arrested at his work earlier this month and jailed for 13 days, while Olga Block, his sister-in-law, was jailed for 10 days for not paying fines after she sent her children to a Christian school in Heidelberg.
The Home School Legal Defense Association, the largest homeschooling group in the U.S. with more than 80,000 families, also has been working to raise attention in the international community to the plight of German homeschoolers, including several families in the Baden-Wurttemberg region.
The group suggested contacting the German embassy, which had an answering machine attached to the telephone line when WND left a request for comment yesterday.
The HSLDA said that contact is:
Wolfgang Ischinger Ambassador German Embassy 4645 Reservoir Road NW Washington, DC, 20007-1998 (202) 298-4000 or it can be e-mailed from its its website.
The U.S. organization also noted that homeschooling has been illegal in Germany probably since 1938 when Hitler banned it. It recently announced a campaign to address the persecution Christians in Germany are facing from education authorities.
Ian Slatter, a spokesman for the HSLDA, said it was launched after a mother was arrested and jailed on criminal homeschooling counts.
In that case, according to a report in the Brussels Journal, Katharina Plett was arrested and ordered to jail while her husband fled to Austria with the family's 12 children.
The latest police-state actions follow by only weeks a recent ruling from the European Human Rights Court that affirmed the German nation's ban on homeschooling.
The Strasburg-based court addressed the issue on appeal from a Christian family whose members alleged their human rights to educate their own children according to their own religious beliefs are being violated by the ban.
The specific case addressed in the opinion involved Fritz and Marianna Konrad, who filed the complaint in 2003 and argued that Germany's compulsory school attendance endangered their children's religious upbringing and promotes teaching inconsistent with the family's Christian faith.
The court said the Konrads belong to a "Christian community which is strongly attached to the Bible" and rejected public schooling because of the explicit sexual indoctrination programs that the courses there include.
The German court already had ruled that the parental "wish" to have their children grow up in a home without such influences "could not take priority over compulsory school attendance." The decision also said the parents do not have an "exclusive" right to lead their children's education.
The family had appealed under the European Convention on Human Rights statement that: "No person shall be denied the right to education. In the exercise of any functions which it assumes in relation to education and to teaching, the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching is in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions."
But the court's ruling said, instead, that schools represent society, and "it was in the children's interest to become part of that society.
"The parents' right to education did not go as far as to deprive their children of that experience," the ruling said.
That is AWFUL! 
It's always about control isn't it... If we can't convince you then we'll force you.
Whether these boots are nazi isn't the point. The point is... they will come. Doesn't matter what country...Korea...Gemany...Iran.... It's the symbolism of the boots. The battle isn't against flesh and blood but those dark forces hiding behind it...which will soon manifest again.
That is the warning being given..... Lets make sure we are straightened out before that happens.
If we can't convince you then we'll force you.Whether these boots are nazi isn't the point. The point is... they will come. Doesn't matter what country...Korea...Gemany...Iran.... It's the symbolism of the boots. The battle isn't against flesh and blood but those dark forces hiding behind it...which will soon manifest again.
That is the warning being given..... Lets make sure we are straightened out before that happens.
The heir to the Grand Mufti's legacy was his nephew, Yasser Arafat. This dispels the myth, that the hatred of the Jews started with the birth of the nation Israel and the creation of the IDF. Long before the creation of the nation or the army to defend it, the mufti was plotting to kill ALL JEWS WORLDWIDE!. That has always been the goal, it has nothing to do with the nation of Israel and everything to do with the goal of worldwide extermination of Jews.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Your brother in Christ,
Don
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 28 2006, 06:16 AM) [snapback]89660[/snapback]
It's always about control isn't it... If we can't convince you then we'll force you.
Whether these boots are nazi isn't the point. The point is... they will come. Doesn't matter what country...Korea...Gemany...Iran.... It's the symbolism of the boots. The battle isn't against flesh and blood but those dark forces hiding behind it...which will soon manifest again.
That is the warning being given..... Lets make sure we are straightened out before that happens.
If we can't convince you then we'll force you.Whether these boots are nazi isn't the point. The point is... they will come. Doesn't matter what country...Korea...Gemany...Iran.... It's the symbolism of the boots. The battle isn't against flesh and blood but those dark forces hiding behind it...which will soon manifest again.
That is the warning being given..... Lets make sure we are straightened out before that happens.
Miki you make a very good point! It is the symbolism of the boots! Don that is so true concerning the extermination of the Jews! It is a war that has been going on since the inception of the Jews back in the Old Testament and will continue on until the Messiah The Christ, The King of Kings returns to Reign! Oh after the week that I have had, I am certainly looking forward to His Return!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Adonaicole,
I'm glad you understand. I wonder sometimes if people get it.
Val,
I'm sorry you've had such a hard week. I hope you'll be back in the saddle soon.
I'm glad you understand. I wonder sometimes if people get it.
Val,
I'm sorry you've had such a hard week. I hope you'll be back in the saddle soon.
QUOTE
The battle isn't against flesh and blood but those dark forces hiding behind it...which will soon manifest again.
Miki, you are so right. It is not a battle of weapons and men but spirits. That is why terrorist make so many threats, if they can cause fear than they have already acheived their goal whether they fire a weapon or not. One thing Bush said, and no I don't agree with everything he says or does, but one thing he said, was right on the money, "this is a war of good versus evil.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
This is a video that LemuelReyes sent me! I wondered about China when I got up that morning as well!
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?a...&MSID=47164
Thanks Lemuel for sending this to me, I wanted everyone to see it as well.
Miki thanks for the encouragment it has been a rough week but I am amazed that the Lord always seem to get us though. He is such an awesome God!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?a...&MSID=47164
Thanks Lemuel for sending this to me, I wanted everyone to see it as well.
Miki thanks for the encouragment it has been a rough week but I am amazed that the Lord always seem to get us though. He is such an awesome God!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Oct 24 2006, 06:52 AM) [snapback]89142[/snapback]
This morning I kept having this re-occuring Vision. I know it was not a dream but somewhere between that sleep and awake stage. I would close my eyes and would see a "Huge Army Marching" It was if they were marching to War! This happened several times before I finally got up out of bed! I would open my eyes then as soon as I would close them again there the Military would be again! I could not see the clothes that the Military was wearing or their faces only their "Boots" I have looked all morning through pictures of these boots! The only way I can describe them would be the "Gestapo Boots" of Hitler's Army. They were very hight to the knee and black! I have a very troubled spirit! It seemed when I would see them that I was relating them to North Korea. I searched for pictures of their military but could not find what I was looking for. I am literally sick to my stomach as if this is something the Lord is showing me! I have gotten sick before when the Lord has shown me things. This is different! This is has made me severally sick at my stomach to the point of (sorry to be so graphic) but I think I will have to be hoovering the toliet! My chest is really feeling like someone is sitting on it and crushing me!
I am reminded of Daniel in Chapter 8: When he had received the vision and the scripture says he fainted and was sick certain days! If anyone feels lead of the Lord to share please do! The vision of my head is really troubling me. Also if someone comes across a picture of a military marching with these types of boots, please let me know!
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=8788
New Marching Orders
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10563
t won't have much of an immediate impact on world military affairs, and certainly not on the American elections, but the fact that Berlin is about to approve a reorganization of the German army is going to heighten that country's role in international peacekeeping and thus world politics.
The Bundeswehr with a total of 250,000 personnel (the regular U.S. Army now has about 490,000 soldiers) will be reorganized primarily into a combat capable intervention and security force, as opposed to its original mission of assisting in defending its borders. This mission change will require not only a near complete alteration of it current training and doctrine, but it also will demand a reordering of its equipment and supply structure.
These actions are an outgrowth of a recently completed strategic review begun nearly a year ago authorized by the new German chancellor, Angela Merkel. The objective of the reorganization is to provide the Bundeswehr with the ability to assign a total of 14,000 troops to five international missions simultaneously. At the present up to 9,000 German troops serve in Afghanistan, Kosovo, and Congo, primarily in non-combatant rear echelon security assignments.
Germany annually spends about 9% of its federal budget on defense. Under the new concept, Merkel's opponents say, this will most likely have to be substantially increased. The government spokesman naturally insists the small necessary additional expenditures would be fully justified.
While the obvious result of this military redirection is to put Germany more in line with the enlarged international activity of NATO and the European Union, Berlin's political role in international peacekeeping, and global affairs generally, could be increased exponentially. Interestingly, the high level strategic study justified its recommendations with references to "the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction" along with the dangers of "international terrorism and regional conflicts." The Bush Administration must have liked that one.
Domestic German opponents of offensive action on any basis by their nation's forces hope to water down the recommendations endorsed by the chancellor's cabinet, but so far they have not gained the necessary support. What has challenged the quick acceptance of the new doctrine, however, has been a disagreement over the makeup of the Bundeswehr.
There is growing political support to do away with Germany's military conscription in favor of making the Bundeswehr more professional and combat oriented. Germany continues to have conscription as an important element in fulfilling its military enlistment goals. Approximately 55,000 draftees serve in their armed forces. More importantly, though, another 70,000 conscientiously deferred individuals provide strong support in Germany's hospitals and other social services. The ending of conscription thus would impact both military and civilian sectors.
From a strictly financial consideration, across the board increases in pay and enlistment inducements would have to accompany any effort to introduce an all-volunteer army. Germany's defense budget again would have to rise. The alternative of using the draftees in increased overseas assignments is a nettle that few German politicians wish to grasp.
For Angela Merkel and her national security team, a reborn modern German combat force appears to be envisioned as a useful way to expand their country's role in global affairs. Germany's status in the United Nations would be enhanced, as would its position within a strictly European context.
Increasing the German international military commitment fifty-five percent and taking on an active combat role where necessary has obvious historical implications. While there has been a considerable effort on the part of the U.S. and U.K. to get the Germans to share a greater burden of the military costs in personnel and treasure in international operations, the full impact of a revived German combat involvement carries implications of untested scope.
A fully professional German military would be a radical departure from the status quo. Apparent, though unspoken, would be the alteration of the European military balance that has enjoyed a Germany of limited capability since World War II. While France at this time might not militarily fear a rebirth of German power, it nonetheless is highly competitive with its EU partner. A strengthening of the German army would certainly exacerbate that rivalry.
At the same time that Germany has taken on an expanded role in the United Nations' negotiations regarding Iran's nuclear development, the steps to reform the German military mission and structure clearly has Berlin marching into the 21st century.
George H. Wittman, a member of the Committee on the Present Danger, was the founding chairman of the National Institute for Public Policy.
QUOTE (Adonaicole @ Oct 24 2006, 02:55 PM) 
The goose step is used by North Korea, China, Russia and some islamists.
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Here is what George Orwell said about the "goose step"
QUOTE
One rapid but fairly sure guide to the social atmosphere of a country is the parade-step of its army. … The goose-step, for instance, is one of the most horrible sights in the world, far more terrifying than a dive-bomber. It is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face. Its ugliness is part of its essence, for what it is saying is "Yes, I am ugly, and you daren't laugh at me." … Beyond a certain point, military display is only possible in countries where the common people dare not laugh at the army.
Your brother in Christ,
Don
Don.....
Tonight as I was watching part of the opening ceremonies in China I was quickly reminded of this vision I had almost 2 years ago. The scene was that of military soldiers marching...... they had their pants tucked in their boots and were marching this same "goose step march"
I turned to my mom and said that so reminds me of the vision I saw of the boots marching! I just have to post it here just for my reference..... because I have not thought of it in a very long time.
In Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
First things first...This wasn't exactly the venue l was going to use this morning but it will work just fine.
Val you posted this at the beginning of your string.
Here is Rev. 17:4
I was coming to the forum this morning to post about a dream l had the same morning as JohnK..
Here is the link.
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=106262
On page two of his string l posted this dream..This was a long string that progressed to paint a picture.
Here is my dream..It reminded me of the opening ceremonies last night when that round image came up out of the center of the Bird's Nest Stadium.. The first thing that came to my mind as l watched those people walking with magnetic shoes around the image was this dream and this string.
At first it looked like an egg as it arose..Then it turned Gold...I'm sorry but to me it looked like a hornets nest crawling with hornets......first an egg then it was a gold color...then the world...
coming up in the middle of that cup.. nest...
Julie l don't know why l didn't notice it before but the dream you reported earlier in this string...
Here:
God has used my greenhouse to show his protected work..The bible tells us that he will use our lives for signs.. Julie... Jew...lee..
So Israel is God's protected work...but the enemy has plan in his hand...and egg crawling with hornets.
We also must look at the Scripture in Jer. that Val posted...the golden cup
A cup of abominations...
Now matter how much glitz, glitter and phony smiles the truth can't be covered up.
There's an awful thing brooding in that nest....
Val you posted this at the beginning of your string.
QUOTE
Jeremiah 51: 6-8
6. Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity: for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
7. Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken; the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
8. Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed :howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed!
6. Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity: for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
7. Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the earth drunken; the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
8. Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed :howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed!
Here is Rev. 17:4
QUOTE
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
I was coming to the forum this morning to post about a dream l had the same morning as JohnK..
Here is the link.
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=106262
On page two of his string l posted this dream..This was a long string that progressed to paint a picture.
Here is my dream..It reminded me of the opening ceremonies last night when that round image came up out of the center of the Bird's Nest Stadium.. The first thing that came to my mind as l watched those people walking with magnetic shoes around the image was this dream and this string.
At first it looked like an egg as it arose..Then it turned Gold...I'm sorry but to me it looked like a hornets nest crawling with hornets......first an egg then it was a gold color...then the world...
coming up in the middle of that cup.. nest...
QUOTE
I dreamt we sold a large mansion on a hill. We were traveling away from it in a wagon. A short stocky man on the wagon was bothering me. He showed me his hand. In his hand was a cup with a white egg in it. As l looked closer l saw hornets crawling on the egg. He took the cup and held it under the back of my shirt... I knew if l panicked l would be stung and the egg would drop...Some how l managed to turn out from his antics..I was really mad and got right in his face and told him if he ever did that again l was going to punch him right in the nose as hard as l could. I woke up...
I had to go into the garage and get something after l woke up. I reached to grab the item and there was a large spider right where l would put my hand. I killed it with a paper towel.
I came into look at the forum and it was off line so l went to the bible codes. I started to listen to the audio of mene tekel peres. I'd gotten up late and only had a little time. I realized l'd never heard the whole audio.
It finished right to the allotted time...to the exact minute.
I thought "God is perfect" as l got up...And yet l knew l was in for an attack...sigh...I saw myself side stepping the enemy in my mind...dancing from step to step to avoid his antics....Just then l had a vision of foot prints in the hall...each a different color with a number...I knew this to mean my steps where ordered.
Even though l know this was personal for me l wondered as God has used an egg before to represent his unfinished work in Israel....If some of you might remember he has also used hornets in that same string...right around the time they went to war with Lebanon..... I believe this is under "Look up for your redemption draweth nigh....
At first l thought the egg might represent the work l was involved in...but it might be a plan the enemy is about to hatch...Actually it could be both?
Or...maybe all three as in the context above.... Gods protected work...I'm not totally sure but thought l should post this here... It's a heads up warning....
I had to go into the garage and get something after l woke up. I reached to grab the item and there was a large spider right where l would put my hand. I killed it with a paper towel.
I came into look at the forum and it was off line so l went to the bible codes. I started to listen to the audio of mene tekel peres. I'd gotten up late and only had a little time. I realized l'd never heard the whole audio.
It finished right to the allotted time...to the exact minute.
I thought "God is perfect" as l got up...And yet l knew l was in for an attack...sigh...I saw myself side stepping the enemy in my mind...dancing from step to step to avoid his antics....Just then l had a vision of foot prints in the hall...each a different color with a number...I knew this to mean my steps where ordered.
Even though l know this was personal for me l wondered as God has used an egg before to represent his unfinished work in Israel....If some of you might remember he has also used hornets in that same string...right around the time they went to war with Lebanon..... I believe this is under "Look up for your redemption draweth nigh....
At first l thought the egg might represent the work l was involved in...but it might be a plan the enemy is about to hatch...Actually it could be both?
Or...maybe all three as in the context above.... Gods protected work...I'm not totally sure but thought l should post this here... It's a heads up warning....
Julie l don't know why l didn't notice it before but the dream you reported earlier in this string...
Here:
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Oct. 24, 2006
OK. I didn't post this until I was SURE that my memory was serving me correctly. If I am able to get the pm and show the exact date I got this vision, I'll be sure to post it.
I had a vision while praying in the shower several weeks ago. I dreamed that I saw a big black boot try to crush me. It was like I was under a very strong pexi-glass/glass surface looking up. I thought that it was only for me- perhaps it was to add here.
My eyes were closed, I was praying. I remember the boot coming down like like a big gigantic footstep...
Again... if I can get the original pm describing the vision to a friend, I will post it here.
OK. I didn't post this until I was SURE that my memory was serving me correctly. If I am able to get the pm and show the exact date I got this vision, I'll be sure to post it.
I had a vision while praying in the shower several weeks ago. I dreamed that I saw a big black boot try to crush me. It was like I was under a very strong pexi-glass/glass surface looking up. I thought that it was only for me- perhaps it was to add here.
My eyes were closed, I was praying. I remember the boot coming down like like a big gigantic footstep...
Again... if I can get the original pm describing the vision to a friend, I will post it here.
QUOTE (Miki @ Nov 30 2005, 04:20 PM)
If he can't get them to explode from the inside out he will try to break in...
I had an impression this morning that God was protecting what little good was left in this country and in individual lives. I saw a greenhouse with a little plant growing in it. Outside..... the green house was surrounded by a big blob of a thing. It was pressing heavy on the walls of the green house..
The light of God must have been causing it to grow as there was no natural sun in there because it was completely surrounded by that thing but it was light.
I saw this after contemplating the grief l feel when we always focus on how awful everything is in this country. l was also contemplating a vision God gave me sometime ago about someone encrusted with the callus of their own heart. It had grown so large it was outside of the body consuming it. I was lamenting over it and trying to focus on the little light l saw left in that person.
Then God started showing me the above. He is supernaturally holding back that thing outside but the pressure would collapse it if it weren't for God...ick...But a good confirming word from God as l struggle to hang on to what little flame is left.
I had an impression this morning that God was protecting what little good was left in this country and in individual lives. I saw a greenhouse with a little plant growing in it. Outside..... the green house was surrounded by a big blob of a thing. It was pressing heavy on the walls of the green house..
The light of God must have been causing it to grow as there was no natural sun in there because it was completely surrounded by that thing but it was light.
I saw this after contemplating the grief l feel when we always focus on how awful everything is in this country. l was also contemplating a vision God gave me sometime ago about someone encrusted with the callus of their own heart. It had grown so large it was outside of the body consuming it. I was lamenting over it and trying to focus on the little light l saw left in that person.
Then God started showing me the above. He is supernaturally holding back that thing outside but the pressure would collapse it if it weren't for God...ick...But a good confirming word from God as l struggle to hang on to what little flame is left.
God has used my greenhouse to show his protected work..The bible tells us that he will use our lives for signs.. Julie... Jew...lee..
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So Israel is God's protected work...but the enemy has plan in his hand...and egg crawling with hornets.
We also must look at the Scripture in Jer. that Val posted...the golden cup
A cup of abominations...
Now matter how much glitz, glitter and phony smiles the truth can't be covered up.
There's an awful thing brooding in that nest....
Val the timing of the Georgia event with the Olympics makes you wonder...
It makes you wonder if someone is done with their coffee and is making an aggressive marching smashing gesture.
Thank you... And yes, it does make you wonder.
I had a vision early this morning following a confusing dream...
I saw a coffee cup thrown to the ground and a booted Gestapo leg step it down.
I'm sure there have been many that never forgot those boots.....
The vision seems indicative of someone getting ready in a firm way to do something. Perhaps someone that's been standing by having a cup of coffee waiting..now done, throws it to the ground and steps on it with resolve...
Dreams and visions...who knows?
It makes you wonder if someone is done with their coffee and is making an aggressive marching smashing gesture.
QUOTE (Miki @ Oct 24 2006, 01:09 PM)
QUOTE (Miki @ Oct 3 2006, 11:01 AM)
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seems that the A.O.C. is building a platform in a religious nature. through the U.N. on a global scale.......which is to be combined into this "Recommendation 666 Document"....and The E.N.P. (European Neighborhood Policy).......Their desire is Peace, security and a balance of religious harmony on a global scale.
Thank you... And yes, it does make you wonder.
I had a vision early this morning following a confusing dream...
I saw a coffee cup thrown to the ground and a booted Gestapo leg step it down.
I'm sure there have been many that never forgot those boots.....
The vision seems indicative of someone getting ready in a firm way to do something. Perhaps someone that's been standing by having a cup of coffee waiting..now done, throws it to the ground and steps on it with resolve...
Dreams and visions...who knows?
WOW! I'm just now seeing these new posts after writing in the Olympic thread.
Miki- you are on fire today. Someone has been in her prayer closet.
Last night the announcers kept talking about scope and scale. How the ceremonies were perfect to the finest detail- yet huge in production. I was so sad that such effort, time, and money weren't being used to glorify His Name. What little faith I have!
He's speaking through it all. His glory will never be surpassed.
The Lord's work is perfection- from the finest detail to the grandest mosaic. Man can only imitate- and even in that we are being used in His timing- the Lord is sovereign. It's truly mind blowing to even get a glimpse of His plan- like we are today.
Miki- you are on fire today. Someone has been in her prayer closet.
Last night the announcers kept talking about scope and scale. How the ceremonies were perfect to the finest detail- yet huge in production. I was so sad that such effort, time, and money weren't being used to glorify His Name. What little faith I have!
He's speaking through it all. His glory will never be surpassed.
The Lord's work is perfection- from the finest detail to the grandest mosaic. Man can only imitate- and even in that we are being used in His timing- the Lord is sovereign. It's truly mind blowing to even get a glimpse of His plan- like we are today.
Mandisa- God Speaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZI2gOBvBHk
Have you ever heard a love song that
Set your spirit free (yes! I HAVE! He loves me! THE SOUND OF MUSIC! )
Have you ever watched a sunrise and
Felt you could not breathe
What if it's Him
What if it's God speaking
Have you ever cried a tear that
You could not explain
Have you ever met a stranger
Who already knew your name
What if it's Him
What if it's God speaking
Who knows how He'll get a hold of us
Get our attention to prove He is enough
He'll do and He'll use
Whatever He wants to
To tell us "I love you"
Have you ever lost a loved one
Who you thought should still be here (JACOB HAVE I LOVED!)
Do you know what it feels like
To be tangled up in fear
What if He's somehow involved
What if He's speaking through it all
Who knows how He'll get a hold of us
Get our attention to prove He is enough
He'll do and He'll use
Whatever He wants to
To tell us "I love you"
His ways are higher
His ways are better
Though sometimes strange
What could be stranger
Than God in a manger (A BEAUTIFUL LIFE!)
Who knows how He'll get a hold of us
Get our attention to prove He is enough
Who knows how He'll get a hold of you
Get your attention to prove He is enough
He'll do and He'll use
Whatever He wants to
To tell us "I love you"
God is speaking
"I love you" (it's of CARDINAL SIGNIFICANCE!)
______________________________________
OH FATHER! Let those who have ears to hear, let them hear! I worship You today!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZI2gOBvBHk
Have you ever heard a love song that
Set your spirit free (yes! I HAVE! He loves me! THE SOUND OF MUSIC! )
Have you ever watched a sunrise and
Felt you could not breathe
What if it's Him
What if it's God speaking
Have you ever cried a tear that
You could not explain
Have you ever met a stranger
Who already knew your name
What if it's Him
What if it's God speaking
Who knows how He'll get a hold of us
Get our attention to prove He is enough
He'll do and He'll use
Whatever He wants to
To tell us "I love you"
Have you ever lost a loved one
Who you thought should still be here (JACOB HAVE I LOVED!)
Do you know what it feels like
To be tangled up in fear
What if He's somehow involved
What if He's speaking through it all
Who knows how He'll get a hold of us
Get our attention to prove He is enough
He'll do and He'll use
Whatever He wants to
To tell us "I love you"
His ways are higher
His ways are better
Though sometimes strange
What could be stranger
Than God in a manger (A BEAUTIFUL LIFE!)
Who knows how He'll get a hold of us
Get our attention to prove He is enough
Who knows how He'll get a hold of you
Get your attention to prove He is enough
He'll do and He'll use
Whatever He wants to
To tell us "I love you"
God is speaking
"I love you" (it's of CARDINAL SIGNIFICANCE!)
______________________________________
OH FATHER! Let those who have ears to hear, let them hear! I worship You today!
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