Vision: Regard Not The Clouds

27TH September 2006



I saw a long (spacious) line of people, male and female, wearing full-length white robes, standing at the edge of a sheer Cliff, with both their arms extended out wide. They were clenching something very tightly in their fists.

I was standing on the right, a safe distance behind them; And I saw them from this sheer edge of the Cliff, look undecidedly at the sky; It was fatal to be standing where they stood. Miles below them was a Valley, should any have fallen, for sure they’d have broken their necks and died.

They continued to gaze at the sky. Their gowns were fluttering in the wind, and their gaze was affixed upon the Clouds.

Then an Angel came to them, and asked why they had not sown the seeds, they were clutching in their hands.

Each replied his own way.

One said, “ The Clouds are getting dark, what’s the use of sowing, for surely it will rain.”

Another said, “ looks to me like snow,” yet another thought the Cloud was an ominous sign of some great disaster looming, etc.

Basically they were all saying to the Angel, “ What’s the use, what’s the point?” Everything ahead looks bleak”. The longer they stood there gazing at the Clouds; the more melancholic and depressed, they looked.

“Where do we sow these seeds?” Was their reply to the Angel. “ If we sow here, ( said they looking down at the valley below) the wind will carry it away, and what’s the use, just look at those Clouds! There’s no place to sow these seeds.”


Their concern seemed that even if they ‘bothered’ to sow the seeds, firstly, they wouldn’t know where they fell, (what a waste of seeds that would be); And even if something did grow, surely these Clouds would bring rain /hail /snow /hurricanes disasters etc, and destroy all they’d sown. So what indeed was the use of sowing seemed to be their line of thinking.


At this I was shocked. (The Angel was standing behind them, in the centre, some distance away from the Cliff’s edge)

I asked the Angel, near whom I now saw myself standing, “ Is it really bleak?”

The Angel explained to me that from these people’s point of view, considering where their eyes were affixed, in a manner of speaking, it did ‘seem’ true, to them.



The Angel talked to the people standing at the sheer edge of the Cliff and said:

“HE WHO REGARDS THE CLOUDS WILL NOT REAP.”


Immediately, the people turned around. ( Prior to this they'd kept talking to the Angel without turning around). And as they turned, before them, they saw land for cultivation. (These people had walked right past these lands, as the Clouds had fascinated them, and this curiosity had then turned into an obsession and drawn them to the sheer edge of the Cliff).

So each walked back the route they had come and a little distance away, I saw an enclosed garden, a field, and vast tracts of land.

Each of these people went to these different places, and there they sowed the seeds, they had so tightly clenched in their fists.

(I saw when they opened their hands, that due to perspiration, the seeds, which looked like mustard seeds, were clinging to the palms of their hands).

No matter what the Clouds would eventually and actually do, these white-robed people would surely see a harvest of what they had sown.


Ecclesiastes 11: 1-4

Cast your bread upon the waters, For you will find it after many days.
Give a serving to seven, and also to eight, For you do not know what evil will be on the earth.
If the clouds are full of rain, They empty themselves upon the earth; And if a tree falls to the south or the north, In the place where the tree falls, there it shall lie.

He who observes the wind will not sow, And he who regards the clouds will not reap.



Bombay-India

Swarna Jha

I've heard people accused of this but have not actually seen it. and l've been around for a while.

This is another slam at pretribulation rapture. Trying to to make it seem that if we are anxiously waiting his return that we couldn't possibly be working. NOT TRUE!

I've planted seeds my whole walk. Other people l know who are truly saved have done the same.

And l'm still looking up.



Not only does he tell me to look up because my redemption draweth nigh...But l am told he is the lifter of my head!

This personally spoke to me tremendously. I did not take it necessarily as a slam to the pre-trib. I personally do not hold to a pre-trib view but it spoke more to me just as a christian in general. I too have sown seeds for most of my christian walk but I must admit that in these final hours I find myself doing little.



With that I mean, I am still seeking the Lord but I am focusd more on signs of the Times. I am even studying and doing most of what I have always done but my focus on the Lost is not there. This is something the Lord had already begun to deal with me about. This started after the dream of the "Wall" It seems that I have been caught up with all the measuring and calculating. Which I know there has to be a balance. I know this because I have Always had a desire to know prophecy, and this is ok. We are instructed to be prepared, not to be deceived and be Looking. Yet there needs to be a beautiful harmony of the two.



The passion for my Lord that used to spill over so freely to those I would come in contact with now is something that does not flow so easily. The days are few and just like Jesus said in Luke 10:2



2. Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therfore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers unto his harvest.



Swarna your visions seem to always speak to me. Its hard to admit my faults but I feel I need to be transparent. I am afraid that your vision is a reflection of my life. I pray that the Lord will help me to loosen the grip that I have on my hand! That He would use me in a mighty way as a labourer in the Lords harvest!

Father I pray that You would bring back my Love and Passion for You. Father that I would be forever changed in You presence. Lord I pray that when You are through with me that Your Love and compassion would radiate from my life. Father I want Your reflection to shine so brightly that people can not help but be drawn to Your presence. Father I beg Your forgiveness for I am filth! I pray that You cleanse me and make me pure!



Your friend in Christ,

Val



Messiahiscoming

Thanks Miki.

Actually Val, I too understood this vision along the same lines as you did.
God bless you my dear sister for your transparency.

Thanks for the prayer, I have it prayed it out loud for myself/us all too.
Praise God.

love and abundant blessings
in His Name
swarna

Anything that l might have tried to look at in the past has gone under the bridge because now l see a hidden agenda...because.... 'certain people' have tried to force feed us.



And just maybe some people are tired. Ya think?

We're looking for his coming and l won't be spanked or made to feel guilty for it.

keep looking up Miki..so do I...I am by no means a believer in Pre-Trib rapture..but why would I stop looking up..He said that we will see Him enter from the skies..

Look up!!!! I always watch the sky and I don't think we are that near the day of His return

Not exactly sure who that was directed to but as for me; I certainly am not trying to force feed anyone, nor do I have any hidden agenda. (not sure where in the world that came from?) Maybe you might try using a little gentleness. "Ya Think" What I posted was totally directed at ME! If you re-read you will find that I was speaking of how the Lord was dealling with me not how he was dealing with anyone else . It just cracks me up as to the wall thats satan has used with this whole Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib Post-Trib issue. I challenge you to look back at any of my post in the past to see where I stand. I have always gave my opinion but have never debated or knocked anyone down with view. I have Always said that in the end it really is not going to matter what we think it is going to happen the way the Lord plans for it to happen. So it is best to be prepared spiritually no matter what. If we are raptured prior to it all Praise the Lord I was wrong!

But if it does not we still have to be ready spiritually. If this was directed at me you have the beef with the wrong person.





Love ya,

Your Friend in Christ,

Val



Messiahiscoming

Miki,

I need to apoligize for this statement that I made earlier, " Maybe you might try using a little gentleness. "Ya Think"

I tried to justify using the "Ya Think" statement because you had used it. I was wrong and I ask

you to forgive me. I used it with an ugly attitude and it was unfair of me. Seems the Lord did some spanking of His

own during my quiet time. I do want you to know that everything else that was said was the truth. I have no hidden

agenda. Maybe you have encountered this in the past by some but I assure you that is not the case with me. All I want

is to be in the Lord's Will and for His children to get along.



With regrets,
Your Friend in Christ,
Val


Messiahiscoming

messiahiscomming, when I saw Mikki's comment, I thought she meant the preachers in the churches...i know more than one pastor who tried to shove an agenda of a pre-trib belief down the the congrugation's throat as if he is absolutely right and everyone else is wrong...once it was so bad, we were afraid to ask the pastor any question regarding a different interpretation of scripture on this matter and what John meant he wrote symbolically in Revelation...he thought of the beasts of Revelation as literal, and the locusts as real bugs but it reads a little like how someone from ancient times might describe helicopters, tanks with multiple guns, and other modern implements of warefare...not that we were opposing him, just looking at it as a possibility, and he rejected all other possibilities other than the view he set forth...

Val... I was speaking in generalities...i'm just frustrated today. Tired, you might say.

I'm pre trib and no one in my church (Pastor etc.) has given me (us) their position because of the problems it causes. It's been mentioned in passing only.

But maybe l will press it. I always thought my Pastror was pre but he said something once that made me go So we'll see.

By force feeding l mean ...to much... 'thus saith the Lord'. I'm still drowning. I can't stand it anymore.

It's making me want to reject more than maybe l should. I'm not doubting the move of God in my own life as l did that once, but then God arrested me and saved me from myself and the enemy.

I'm just doubting everybody else ... I say that tongue and cheek though..

I guess l'm just questioning what l eat more. It's FRUSTRATION leaking out into all my posts.

Sorry maybe l need a break.

I want to plant seeds....but I am so afflicted and wretched.

Is it only by a righteous hand that sows seeds? One who does what he says and does not change like the weather?

How can I keep my word or promises to God? I search for my spirit and I am frought with blindness. Keenly listening but anguished with deafness.

Son of David! Have mercy on me!

Am I so weak and poor in faith?

Luke 5:8
When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.

Come lord Jesus Come... even so COME AMEN

Hi Humble Bob/FighterofGod/All
Just want to share this Scripture with you.


Romans 8:24-39


For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees?

But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?

Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.

Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

As it is written: "For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter."

Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.

For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come,

nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Love and blessings in Christ Jesus
swarna

Thank you Miki and FS for making my little pea-brain to see! I know I am wearing my heart on my sleeve. I have some things going on in my life as well. I am sorry that I misunderstood you. I will be praying about

what is going on in your life. I have found myself struggling in some areas that I thought were dead issues as well. These are crazy times we are living in and I think satan is doing a major number on many.



Your in my prayers,

Your Friend in Christ,
Val



Messiahiscoming

Your not alone.

Just think though, if we didn't face these things that build walls between us and Jesus, we would just keep thinking that they didn't exist...and continue to burry them...DEEP calleth out to DEEP. Everytime Jesus reveals a truth to us it is for our Growth in HIM.
Why, because he loves you. He knows what is best for us all. He wants our hearts to long for him and his truth to continue to be builded upon ON Earth as it is in Heaven. Whom else can the LORD JESUS work through if it isn't a human being here. We are his HELPMATE. He loves us so much and wishes for none to perish. He will give us the revelation of his knowledge grounded in the Faith he provides and the promises he keeps. He died so that we could live. Let us be found worthy to serve you Jesus in your truth...you will take away everything that hinders us from walking in your TRUTH, for you are the TRUTH and the LIFE...we come to you in prayer for all our brothers and sisters here gathered in your Holy Name, Jesus.
To you be all the Glory, and Power and Wisdom forever and ever.

Much Love and Peace in Christ Jesus to all. Please pray for me, and I pray for this forum.

Hi Swarna Jha. I have not seen you post in awhile. I have only just read your vision in length this evening. Just wanted to share alittle of what the Holy Spirit revealed to me concerning your vision. It speaks of those believers that are caught up into all the troubles in the world today and not carrying on the work of the Lord to spread the gospel. Those in the white robes are the righteous believers in Christ. The enemy is trying to cause them to fall by keeping them preoccupied with all the troubles in the world. He is deceiving them into believing why bother to sow seeds or telling them no one will listen. The enemy wants the believer to feel weary and tired. Of course we all long to go and be with our Lord but there is still work to do. Many new ministry fields to sow seeds in. So many lost that still need to hear. We are to occupy until HE comes. Keep sowing those seeds until it is time to go home.

Luk 19:13
And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

HB... I know exactly what you are saying. Oh HB, it is good to know that someone else feels like I do.

But you know what? I think sowing seeds is really simple.

Feeding someone who is hungry.
Listening to someone who is hurting.
Smiling and complimenting someone.
Giving time.

As Christians- we dream big dreams. But Christ reminds us that a cool cup of water is enough to be seen by Him.

This is a good word. I ask Christ that he hurries his work because I have heard my voice in me and faced that garbage in me. And because of that there are the words from others who say I have faced this shadow and must rely upon myself, not God.

That hurts

Why do I live a world surrounded by people who doubt God is real? Why do I live in a world where men seek only within themselves to fulfill thems selves but deny Christ is risen, and he is risen in anyone who receives him?

Sow the seeds! Sow them and scatter them to the ground! Heed the angel's call that ye not look to the sky but do sow for God!

Then angel heed this word that the hearts of men do grow cold and seek pleasures to deny God. Hear the ground cry out that it does not wish to hear the Word.

Times Up! No more pleading and pleading, no more praying and praying. The Bible is just a book like other books and God is a man who wears a collar and holds mass on Sunday.

Cynical, cynical, cynical. The spirit of the beast, the anti-christ and the false prophet does abound. The devil is loosed from his abyss that he deceive nations. See the paganism, see the occult, see the astrology all around. New age discovery, inner meditation, yoga, healthy diets, striving for riches, all without a care for who Christ is. Rejected as worthless, trodden upon as dogma. So, wound me in my faith in Christ by saying I am a fool to believe what cannot be seen or felt or heard.

ENOUGH! This book closes today 27 October 2006. Let Christ bring forth his mighty judgement! If there is a trumpet to be sound let it sound now, if there are horses to ride let them ride now. Dear angel who speaks then, take thy plowshear the Lord doth hand you and break the ground so frozen cold! Break that ground that nations and man will be broken, then let seeds be sown!

Hi His Love Abides, it's a while since I saw you too!!!!

I praise God, because that is how I understood this vision. That we let nothing , nothing, nothing , hinder us from sowing /doing God's work.
Thanks for the interpretation, HLA.
Love and blessings in Christ Jesus

your sister in Him
swarna




Hi Julie, thanks for sharing that. It blessed me. Simple but so profound. ....Faith in action.

love and blessings to you my sister,
Swarna



Amen.
God bless you Humble Bob.
your sister in Him

WHAT?! Don't get carried away waving your sword HB....God's timing is perfect!

yeah...I agree, Miki I was just flustered. I don't know what gets me going these days anymore; it's like I am running hot and cold.

It seems to me that these days folks seem to either think they've got all they need or that they need more just like the last church in Revelation, and "God is for the weak minded masses." I got man's religion to thank for that ; it just kills the spirit, my spirit too....

Anyway, it's out and if it's God's will it will serve his purpose, even if it's at my expense.

...I still remember the skunk thing

SOW THE RIGHT SEEDS

IT ONLY TAKES A SEED
TO START THE KINGDOM GROWING

Out my back door, in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina, is a huge apple orchard covering several hundred acres. It is a joy to watch the trees bud, bloom, and bear delicious fruit. All this is the result of one single man with a big dream: Johnny Appleseed. He came through our region--Moravian Falls, North Carolina, more than two hundred years ago, using the apple to preach the gospel. He used to say that you could count the seeds in an apple, but you could not count the apples in a seed. This whole region of the state is now covered in apple trees that supposedly originate from this evangelist. Our goal must be to bear spiritual fruit that will remain. It is a true principle we will always reap what we have sown.

What way is the Lord leading each of us to sow seeds that will provide a harvest? Johnny Appleseed did not miss his opportunities to sow; don't miss yours. Just as we are promised in a number of places, in both the Old and New Testaments (the Scriptures cannot be broken, but are one), every Christian's life should have such an overflow that it is a major blessing to all who are in need. That's what Paul prayed for in II Corinthians 9:6-8, "Now this I say, he who sows sparingly shall also reap sparingly; and he who sows bountifully shall also reap bountifully. Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, that always having all sufficiency in everything; you may have abundance for every good deed..."
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I always carry my own homemade tracts in my car, purse and pocket; and wherever I go ----these tracts land. Cars, supermarkets, subways, etc. etc. Yesterday, getting out of my comfort zone, parked car, got out and passed out at 100 tracts to hungry teenagers waiting for a bus. Their hands were all up in the air and stretching to receive their free ticket to heaven. I never saw anything like it. Returning to my car and driving on to do errands, I was as high as a kite. Serving the Lord and sowing seeds is true happiness.