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Tzeitel
Revelation 9:11

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."


ABADDON: Hebrew אבדון Avadon, meaning "destruction".

APPOLLYON: in Greek "Destroyer" (Απολλυων, from απολλυειν, to destroy) and the Greek god Apollo, also a "destroyer" in his aspect of controlling pestilence, though the composite monstrosity that is Apollyon is distinctly Babylonian and Persian, not Hellenic, in inspiration.

Is there any leader living now that could possibly be fulfilling this prophecy??
Miki
I Hope Stephen doesn't mind.

This is from another post... but it talks about Abaddon.


QUOTE(Stephen @ May 27 2006, 05:11 PM)
The 70th Week Decreed for Israel
Does the 70th week decreed for Israel contain tribulation events in the first and second half ? Does the second half extend beyond 1,260 days ?

Careful reading of Scriptures related to this time period will reveal an affirmative answer to both of these questions. It is important for the student of Bible prophecy to grasp the timing of events belonging to the Lord's intervention at the end of this present age.

Israel will be invaded, conquered, and ruled by the little horn, king of fierce countenance, as part of his expansion to form his 7th dominion in the Middle East. He is Satan's christ (antichrist), the beast from the abyss who is a fallen angelic, who will possess the little horn, human king of the north [Daniel 7:8, 8:23-25, 11:36] [Revelation 9, 11, 13, 17, 19] [Zechariah 14:1-5]

The "great city" of Mystery Babylon will be destroyed by the 10 other horns (Middle Eastern kings) at the onset of the beginning of the 70th week. They will do this before they gain a consolidated dominion with the little horn. The first 4 trumpet judgments describe this destruction. [Revelation 8:7-12, 17:12-18]

There is another "great city" in Revelation which is Jerusalem. These two great cities are different. The one of Mystery Babylon is the "great city" of the nations and the other is the capital of national Israel.

These are the only "great" cities recorded in Revelation's visions. All of the other cities in the world are the rest of the cities of the Gentiles (nations). [Revelation 11:8, 17:18]

God will revisit the land area of Mystery Babylon's "great city" at the end of the tribulation period and break it into three parts with a great worldwide earthquake which will also destroy all of the other cities in the world. [Revelation 16:18-19]

The little horn will confirm a covenant (it will only last for 7 years) on the day of the "great city's" destruction with the 10 kings and many followers. He will do this to support his next objectives which will be to conquer the Middle East including the nation of Israel, and then dominate the world. [Daniel 9:27]

On that same day the 5th and 6th trumpets will sound and both are related to Satan's release of Abaddon, the other abyss angels, and the release of the angels bound at the Euphrates River respectively. These satanic forces will be strategically employed by Satan to advance his objectives. [Revelation 9:1-11, 9:13-19]

Satan is the dragon in Revelation who gives his power and authority to the first beast (Abaddon). Abaddon will influence and ultimately incarnate (become) the little horn (the 8th king) and rule the Middle East with the 10 other horns. [Revelation 12:3, 13:1-4, 17:8-11]

The little horn is the human king (man of lawlessness) who will be seen by humans, but he will be the instrument of Satan and his christ, Abaddon, king of the abyss. [Second Thessalonians 2:3-12]

He will encounter opposition from Egypt (king of the south), others in the Middle East, and nations farther east and north (tidings out of the east and north) of the Middle East. [Daniel 11:40-44]

He will succeed in defeating all opposition, including replacement of 3 of the 10 other kings, and will conquer Israel by the end of the first 3 1/2 years (1,260 days) of the 70th week. The abomination of desolation will be set up on the temple mount at the end of the first half of the 70th week. [Daniel 7:8, 12:7-11]

He will then rule the Middle East and the Land of Israel for 42 months (1,260 days) until his dominion is destroyed by God's intervention (7th trumpet, 7 vial judgments) which will occur in the next 30 day period immediately following the end of his 42 month rule. [Revelation 11:2, 13:5, 16:1-14]

This second half (1,260 days) of the 70th week is also the same time frame for the protection of the Israelite remnant who flee into the wilderness east of Israel, and the operation of God's two witnesses (prophets). [Revelation 11:3, 12:6, 12:14]

The little horn's dominion will be destroyed by God within the next additional 30 days for a total of 1,290 days comprising the last half of the tribulation period.

The Lord will appear visibly to the world immediately after those days and will gather and separate believers of the elect (national Israel) and from the Gentile nations to enter His earthly 1,000 year Kingdom. This will take 45 additional days for a total of 1,335 days. [Matthew 24:29-31, 25:31-46] [Daniel 12:12]

Careful study of Daniel's visions will verify that the time of the end is structured according to these time frames. The reader needs to consider chapters 10:5, 10:14, 11:36-45, and 12:1-12 to get the complete picture.

There are two questions asked in chapter 12. One of the heavenly beings, possibly the Lord himself (compare Daniel 10:5-6 and Revelation 1:13-16), addresses the first question in 12:6 and the answer is given in 12:7. Then Daniel asks the second question in 12:8. Two different answers are given.

The answer to the first question in 12:7 describes the first half of the 70th week (1,260 days...a time ,times, and 1/2 time), and the answer to the second question in 12:11 describes the second half of the 70th week (1,290 days).

It is important to note that there is a link in 12:7 back to chapter 11:36-45. The link is "he" (the little horn), and the verses in chapter 11:36-45 specifically describe his conquering of the Middle East and Israel.

Israel will be conquered by the end of the "time, times, and 1/2 time". "All of these things shall be finished" refers to Daniel 11:36-45....the details leading up to the little horn's 42 month rule.

The end of verse 45 points to the destruction of the little horn's dominion after his 42 month rule during the additional 30 days following the second half of the 70th week.

When Daniel asks the second question in 12:8 he wants to know what the outcome will be resulting from Israel's conquering by the little horn. The answer in verse 12:11 describes the 1,290 day period beginning from when the abomination of desolation is set up.

This will be at the beginning of the little horn's rule (mid-point of the 70th week) which will last for 42 months and then his dominion will be destroyed in the next 30 days. This total period will be for 1,290 days and describes the last half of the tribulation period (last half of the 70th week plus 30 additional days).

The same time frame can be found in Daniel 8:13-14 and 8:23-26. The destruction of the sanctuary (place of worship like the great synagog at the base of the western wall of the temple mount) will occur 110 days after the abomination of desolation is set up.

The 2,300 mornings and evenings should be interpreted as 1,150 days. At the end of the 1,150 days (same time as the end of the 1,260 days of the last half of the 70th week) the sanctuary (place of worship) and the temple mount will be restored to Israel.

The little horn will be forced to give up the temple mount area in retreat at the end of his 42 month rule (1,260 days) when his dominion is attacked which will then fall in the next 30 days.

The setting up of the abomination of desolation and the subsequent destruction of the sanctuary 110 days later will both be actions that prohibit Jewish worship (sacrifice) at the base of the temple mount (great synagog at the western wall).

There will be a notible increase in their worship activity prior to the invasion and confiscation of the temple mount area by the little horn. The destruction of Mystery Babylon's "great city" and subsequent campaign to conquer the Middle East by the little horn and the 10 other horns will motivate Israel to seek their God.
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Tzeitel
thanks for that Miki tikka tongue.gif biggrin.gif xx
Stephen
I don't mind Miki.

Tzeitel,

Abaddon is not human. He is the angelic king of the abyss who has existed since the angels were created in the beginning. He rebelled with Satan, and I believe he is Satan's christ ("antichrist"). There will be a human involved in his manifestation so that humans can see and experience him. No human has ever seen this combination of a fallen angelic and a human. He will be astonishing and will possess powers and abilities far beyond any ordinary human. Many will worship him as a god.

This will be the man of lawlessness, the prince that shall come, and he will rise in the northern sector of the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East at the time of the end. If Abaddon's human agent is present today no one knows who it is yet. His first act will be to confirm the covenant for 7 years. This covenant will last just 7 years during the 70th week decreed for Israel.

Abaddon is the first beast of Revelation. He once "was" (before the first century), is "not" (is not active now), and will come out of the abyss at the time of the end. He is the king of the other fallen angelics from the abyss, but he is also the beast of Revelation [Rev:9,11,13,16,17,19]
revelations-13
is related to just about before the end of the abomination of desolation . then people will have disbelief in God.
George
QUOTE(revelations-13 @ Mar 29 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]107456[/snapback]

is related to just about before the end of the abomination of desolation . then people will have disbelief in God.

I read your link in detail and it is more nonsense.
The abomination that causes desolation is set up after the Lords two prophets take away Gods daily sacrifice to man.
The whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water which makes the evil ones of the earth resort to eating each others flesh and drinking each others blood.
Those who live by faith will be able to make the water and oil and flour last 42 months and the faithful stewards will be bringing manna down from heaven and water out of the face of the rock to feed and water the the Lord's sheep.
The original text says "for where the carcass is there the eagles will be gathered together". This means that they will be killing people for food and drink since an eagle kills their food and does not eat already dead things.
c-los medrano
QUOTE(Godsloft.com @ Mar 30 2007, 02:42 AM) [snapback]107475[/snapback]

I read your link in detail and it is more nonsense.
The abomination that causes desolation is set up after the Lords two prophets take away Gods daily sacrifice to man.
The whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water which makes the evil ones of the earth resort to eating each others flesh and drinking each others blood.
Those who live by faith will be able to make the water and oil and flour last 42 months and the faithful stewards will be bringing manna down from heaven and water out of the face of the rock to feed and water the the Lord's sheep.
The original text says "for where the carcass is there the eagles will be gathered together". This means that they will be killing people for food and drink since an eagle kills their food and does not eat already dead things.


water, oil and flour only?
i need my microwave... sad.gif
WhiteKnight
Does anyknow where Stephen is?. I have never him for long time.
senteami3
How about this one:

2 Thessalonians 2 (King James Version)

NOTE HERE THE "9 - 11" VERSES!!!



9Even him [ANTICHRIST], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had
pleasure in unrighteousness.
revelations-13
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Mar 30 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]107525[/snapback]

QUOTE(Godsloft.com @ Mar 30 2007, 02:42 AM) [snapback]107475[/snapback]

I read your link in detail and it is more nonsense.
The abomination that causes desolation is set up after the Lords two prophets take away Gods daily sacrifice to man.
The whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water which makes the evil ones of the earth resort to eating each others flesh and drinking each others blood.
Those who live by faith will be able to make the water and oil and flour last 42 months and the faithful stewards will be bringing manna down from heaven and water out of the face of the rock to feed and water the the Lord's sheep.
The original text says "for where the carcass is there the eagles will be gathered together". This means that they will be killing people for food and drink since an eagle kills their food and does not eat already dead things.


water, oil and flour only?
i need my microwave... sad.gif


Yes is why have not responded...
George
QUOTE(revelations-13 @ Apr 1 2007, 01:52 AM) [snapback]107713[/snapback]

QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Mar 30 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]107525[/snapback]

QUOTE(Godsloft.com @ Mar 30 2007, 02:42 AM) [snapback]107475[/snapback]

I read your link in detail and it is more nonsense.
The abomination that causes desolation is set up after the Lords two prophets take away Gods daily sacrifice to man.
The whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water which makes the evil ones of the earth resort to eating each others flesh and drinking each others blood.
Those who live by faith will be able to make the water and oil and flour last 42 months and the faithful stewards will be bringing manna down from heaven and water out of the face of the rock to feed and water the the Lord's sheep.
The original text says "for where the carcass is there the eagles will be gathered together". This means that they will be killing people for food and drink since an eagle kills their food and does not eat already dead things.


water, oil and flour only?
i need my microwave... sad.gif


Yes is why have not responded...


c-los medrano
No water no electricity no electricity no microwave. No water no flushing toilets no showers or baths.
Please believe that this is not a Joke.

revelations-13
You haven't responded Why?
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