Sonship or Persecutor?
How Great His Glory
Golda Meyer 05-14-06 goldameyer@telkomsa.net



Children, carry forth this message, for truly the time is no more. Hours in the day is crunched, Mercy time is crunched, because of My Chosen ones. For long you have walked in the wilderness, hoping for more, groaning for more and crying for more. I have seen your tears and I know of the cries in your hearts. Children, the time is here.



Like Mary accepted the seed of the Holy Spirit in her womb, so did you. But travail came in a terrible way in her young life, but she rejoiced in the Birth of the Sign – Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Sign, but even the Sign had to be fulfilled in the Promise.



And this is happening. Children, it is happening still, for the Promise is fulfilled with many Sons of God coming into Son-ship. Children, this is that time now. It is Son ship time.



Now you will see the true Son-ship. Men and Women of God on this earth truly walking like Jesus did. By this you can see who Sons are and who are not. Discernment will be so easy, and the works wrought by their hands in perfection, is driven by Love. And this Love is from God, for no man, does not matter how long and hard they try, and muster this Love up from their own will.



These Sons are sent by God, and cannot by their own will achieve anything. They have died and given over fully their wills to God. Deep in the river do they abide, knowing only the Love and Strength and Life of their God.



You will see them appear – all of them. From the quiet and the secret places are they coming forth, and in great strength, for all in them is from Me. And they shall rule, in the way I want them to rule. No tolerance for evil or flesh will they be able to show, for the mere idea stinks with rot.



For I AM in them, fully employed and in Power. They will not tolerate any mediocrity either and harsh will be their words sometimes, but it is for healing only, motivated by Love. You shall see their strength and their beauty in the LORD.



Only those who abided in the LORD, can follow this road. Abiding in the Vine, the Vine of all Life-giving. Only those can move to Son-ship, for in fellowship and intimacy of God, only herein could they grow into maturity. That time of Maturity is here. And they will mature simultaneously, in great numbers, to impact this world.



This world will know of the Glory of the Lord, for it will be shown in great and splendid public display. How this shall be? Oh you shall see, for ALL will be healed in the Presence of God, in Mine Glory and ALL shall be delivered in the Presence of God, of those that will accept the LORD Jesus Christ as their Savior. The Healing and Deliverance is for ALL, who will receive Me. For ALL. They will walk talk and do like Jesus, and even more so.



For much splendor will I bestow on this earth and great is the Glory of God, for Mine Presence will fill this earth, and even the sinners will know that I AM God.
So children, eyes wide open, for those that will see, shall see, and those that will hear, shall hear. The others shall be veiled, unless My intercessors intercede and stand in the gap for those that are lost.



Children, hear your Father’s Heart. I will not that anyone goes astray, so stand in for those that you know are not with Me. For I long to feel them in My Heart, for I have created them in Love. Don’t let them die, children, but pray for them to Live, and have Life abundantly. You are greatly blessed with the Light; now shine that Light unto others, so they may live.



Dearest children, this your Father asks of you today, to be merciful unto others as I AM merciful to you. Pray earnestly for those and I shall save them, for the prayers of the righteous avail much. Love Me first and love others as you love yourself, and truly your rewards are great in Christ Jesus.



Now then, My beloved, pray for unity, for I want My Church together in great strength, for in unity there can be no division and if no division, then comes forth great Strength in Christ. Accept then each other, and do not cuddle dominion loyalty, but be loyal to your God and to each other.



As I AM, so you shall be. Now see My Sons, for you shall truly say: the Father? How long have I been in your midst? See then Me, in My Sons, for this is who I AM. ALL in ALL.



Dearest ones, be faithful to My commands and be blessed in Christ Jesus, for truly, great is the time upon you. Great is the Grace upon you and great is the Glory of God upon this earth. So it shall it be. AMEN.



Rom 8:16 The Spirit Himself [thus] testifies together with our own spirit, [assuring us] that we are children of God.



Rom 8:17 And if we are [His] children, then we are [His] heirs also: heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ [sharing His inheritance with Him]; only we must share His suffering if we are to share His glory.



Rom 8:18 [But what of that?] For I consider that the sufferings of this present time (this present life) are not worth being compared with the glory that is about to be revealed to us and in us and for us and conferred on us!



Rom 8:19 For [even the whole] creation (all nature) waits expectantly and longs earnestly for God's sons to be made known [waits for the revealing, the disclosing of their son-ship].



Rom 8:29 For those whom He foreknew [of whom He was aware and loved beforehand], He also destined from the beginning [foreordaining them] to be molded into the image of His Son [and share inwardly His likeness], that He might become the firstborn among many brethren.



Rom 8:30 And those whom He thus foreordained, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified (acquitted, made righteous, putting them into right standing with Himself). And those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity and condition or state of being].





Exhortations from the Father

May 14, 2006
Glenn Jackson jtlmin@earthlink.net http://jtlmin.com


This is the aforementioned time of "a series of final judgments"! A series of final judgments that will expose the "true" condition of one's heart - as I send My "vessels" of My consuming fire throughout the congregations of My people.


Up until now, the vast majority of My children have come to "accept" a "mediocre Christian life".

At a time when the deepest desire of My heart is to reveal Myself in My "absoluteness" - in every aspect of My children's lives - many are "content" with a continued mixture of My Word and the "world".


But truly I say to you, this shall end "abruptly"! and all those who continue to "dishonor" My Word shall be "cut off", and they shall move further and further out into darkness (the world).

They pridefully proclaim that they are still in the "way", but truly I say to you, their "way" is not of Me!


And thus they shall "allow" themselves to be used as vessels of persecution against their very own brothers and sisters - who are walking in the faith and obedience that pleases Me so.


And though they are "family" there shall result a "clear separation" between those of My children who love (obey) Me and those who do not, and it is certain that "all" those who seek Me shall know which group of My children is truly of Me and which group is not.

And so shall each man be presented with a clear option. On the one hand, My spotless and unblemished Church - an ever-expanding "vessel" of My Glory and Light and Truth - and on the other hand, the dead and lifeless form of "religion" that acknowledges Me with their lips, but whose hearts are far from the place that they should be - considering their "relationship" with Me.

But even in their folly I shall not forget them, and I shall send forth My holy apostles and prophets and they shall "devastate" the "strongholds" of the doctrines and traditions which have been a product of the "mental ascension" of those ones who have not drawn near to Me - a mental ascent made continually stronger by their "fellowship" with the world and its ways - a fellowship which gives Satan a continual "inroad" into their lives.

Fear not! All those of you who are concerned for those "caught" in this position, for truly I say to you, whatever happens in the midst of My people from here on in shall be for the "greatest eternal benefit" of "all" - both individually and corporately!



Last updated on: May 16, 2006

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For a long time l didn't realize what the mediocrity was...
or where it came from... or why?

I've only come to understand through my own life. Knowing the difference between walking in the flesh and the Spirit. Walking in the Spirit is so nourishing. And walking in the flesh is so ordinary and lifeless.

How does it happen? The transition from one to the other? How do we switch back and fourth from Spirit to flesh? My answer isn't all knowing as l haven't arrived fully myself but l believe it comes from not staying daily in prayer. We can't have intimacy with out getting low....A prerequisite to a personal relationship.

But why? Why can't we allow the reality of our lives rise up before him? Don't we trust him to carry us through? And this is where the weeping comes in. Do you think you can possibly get this is in the hour before work? NO!
That's where we have to rethink our priorities. We have to arrange our lives around God. He doesn't rearrange himself around our schedule.

Do you believe we live in the last day? Time is nearly up? Then act like you believe it. Get ready through brokenness and the reality of your life.

He's going to test you again and again and you will have to choose to stand in your worst mistakes and humble yourself again and again as he seasons you. Are you really ready to say yes? Or do you always want to hang around at base camp? Because that's exactly where you'll stay and the noise will just get louder and louder.

I don't want that. But l loose myself in TV sometimes because l can't face reality on a daily basis. I want to escape it. That's how l do it. I dumb down. I imagine lots and lots of other people do the same thing. This is one big huge thing l believe God wants us out of. We can't waste time this way any more. It's to precious.

Deafness comes gradually like a predator...
silent in the bush...until suddenly...

Let's set up the watch on our own lives and as we do it God will reveal his step by daily step unique plan for our lives. And as we begin and continue to walk in the way he will give us more and more...until we are full and overflowing.

Trust him with the deepness of your personal life...and he'll give you back a piece of his. Whoa.......could we ask more?

I publicly thank the Lord for my life on the farm where I do not have do more than love and obey Him.

He has asked that I get all affairs in order by the end of August. There is no delay.

leia

I find walking in the spirit, to be what Jesus said, "Not my will by Thy will be done" its when the flesh is groaning for satisfaction and I say NO.It is following the principles of the Word, when its easier to ignore them. I find it also to be practical, in the love people, when they hate you...forgive them when they are guilty....let things go...looking at our Father to resolve issues and not taking everything out of His hands and trying to resolve it.
Dumping lukewarm: You have to go there where lukewarm Christians start telling you , you are wrong (because you are convicting them through your lifestyle and faith) When Christians start saying"You have to be careful now, you are taking this too far...you are almost there

I see that when I believe God for something ...some will say, "mmm that is not right, God gave you a healthy brain to help you, so you do not need to trust Him in this, you can do it yourself" Ha, I am almost there ...Praise God.
I grew up with the saying "use the Golden Middle way"...what a lot of junk. There is no such thing. Its God's way or our way (the world's way )

We have to look honestly at ourselves.
I am looking at the following at the moment: How far do I trust God?
Health, money, supply, wisdom, ...will He take me into the miraculous?
Do I think He will?
If I am stranded , say in the Tribulation, do I trust Him to protect me, if the answer is YES, then how am I living right now?
Does my life reflect that trust to other people, or am I pushing that trust into "when the trib starts He will supply, but now I must do it all and I do not yet trust Him with my daily needs"
Do I pray for healing every time or just sometimes. Why do I pray for healing...do I believe He will heal...has He ever healed when I prayed or...maybe I am doing something wrong
Do I ask God to correct me in my believes (say nothing happens in healing) or do I just carry on in my old believe.
UH a lot of questions, I know, but I am actually asking those.
I will also tell you something....He has started answering a lot of those.

Ask and ye shall receive. If anybody lacks wisdom....ask.
God WILL answer all our questions, because He is faithful and our Father Who loves us .
love C

Good word Cornelius. If we're not there or challenged by what you said then we're complacent which is a place of deception and stagnation. My constant trouble is putting off time with the Lord alone until later. I commune with Him off and on all day, moments if you will. But to take some real quality time alone just between the two of us seems hard to do. But it is oh so necessary, especially given the time we are in.

I am thanking God for all of you.
He sent you here today, to speak to me through all of you.

The things you have spoken of is what has been in my heart and
mind for so long.

Miki, I relate to the dumbing myself down with t.v. just to escape
some of the daily trials and headaches.

The other night I was just sitting on the couch trying to unwind from
a very busy and hectic day. A show came on and immediately I felt
this is not worth watching and I heard turn it off, NOW!
Then I felt a breeze around me.

This has been happening a lot to me lately. God is preparing us folks.
Things that we once thought were okay, now our Lord is saying
don't bother with that junk there is little time left. Do the things I am asking of you.

Wow, God has been moving and I must obey Him.

I appreciate everything you have all said.
Oh and yes Leia, I too am thanking God for being on a farm and away
from a lot of the chaos. However the devil still tries me here too.
If God wants me to move and be somewhere else I will have to say, Your
will be done Lord. But I know I must be thankful and grateful for where He
has me now.

Never should I stop thanking Him of all the blessings He gives us.
Please Lord do not let my lips be whiny, but only Praise to You my Lord
and King.

love you all,
Shalom,
from
rosie

Amen Chrio,
And Cornelius, thank you for this message.
I am definitely printing this one out.

God bless you my dear brothers and sisters.

One of the things l'm thankful for is not being able to readily go to the Dr.

It's long to explain but l felt slighted for some years...Then after he healed me once l wasn't so weary of it. It forced me to trust.

I had to throw my hands up and say "oh well" God knows where l am. I talk to him all the time. If l die he knows....

Things have worked out for me. I have one tiny cold in 8 years.

Doesn't mean l can abuse my health by eating candy and such...(I like chocolate)

But you know what l mean. The season l had to trust taught me just that.

We have to let go of things....all kinds of things...

Funny how you look back at things differently then when you are actually in them.

Rosie some TV is OK. I find l get way way out there when l'm always in the word.
It seems l can't come down and it's difficult to relate in the world. I struggle in social situations because the things l think about aren't ordinary...

Gardening talk only goes so far...Golf is out...I can't talk about going to the gym.
What oh what do people talk about any way? Surely not politics.

I don't think the Bible-Codes will stretch the conversation far.
Oh well...A little TV is OK...

I understand you completely. Yes what do people talk about.
I don't have much in common with many anymore so it seems.
But miki, everything you said, I feel you and I are very much
in common in our thinking.

Yes I agree a little t.v. is okay. This particular show was just
something that would have not be suitable for me and the Lord
knew it.

Anyway Miki, I just wanted to say that I loved your post, Why of course
I would, I love you!

We can always talk about how much God loves His children Miki.
How much we love Him.
And how much I love my brothers and sisters and enemies too.

love,
rosie

My dear sisters, comfortable is not having to speak at all. Just know they are working in the same room and sharing a common task is pleasant enough.

leia

Leia...That's my normal route. No talkie.... It's very comfortable to me...It's them l worry about! I'm more of a listener... unless l feel the unction coming on. Then the room get's quite...

I want to talk about something concerning this topic...and by the way...Happy birthday Corny! Anyway...It's concerning the sons of God and what is expected in this manifestation being discussed. I'm struggling with something l can't get past.

It's holiness and obedience.

Last night l watched 'Left Behind' for the third time and when it was over l started thinking about the forum... the dreams and visions... and all the stuff we have talked about here as warnings of what is to come.

How difficult to believe it's really happening and it's not just some movie...

For a moment there my eyes let a little more light in...and l thought.."You know Lord..You are opening my eyes and it doesn't have one iota to do with how good or holy l am".

But it seems the more he opens my eyes the better l get. So can l really be good in my own will or does he have to open my eyes in order for that to happen.

That night l was reading the Isaiah commentary l have based on chapter 6 and his encounter with God. He never realized he was totally wasted until he was in God's presence. And he didn't get there by any volition of his own. He certainly didn't get there because he was good. Because he didn't find out his utter depravity till he got there. Make sense!?

So it doesn't have anything to do with us but with God. He opens our eyes because we desire it and are willing to put the seeking first. As he lets more and more light in it becomes easier to be obediant and holy (what ever that is)

Who wants to tell me what holiness is?

If you are wondering about walking in health...? God made me get it.
I would have never done this on my own. I'm a helpless creature. The things the enemy meant for evil in my life...such as no ready access to the Dr.....The Lord used to teach me trust. But at the same time l had to let it go. I had to say...my kids will be ok...(though that ached) and l had to be willing to accept his will.

I know one night l might have died if he hadn't healed me. Later l was to find out the bad circumstances of my body...He helped me. I needed him. He knew it.

I don't think it's a good idea not to go to the Dr. I think this was a case in point that when we are in trouble he'll take care of us. Luke was a Dr. There's nothing wrong with it...But here's a test for me and you...

Would l get all the cancer treatments out there? Boy...probably not...But that's me. I'm ready to hang it up.

If God needs me he'll fix me. But to spend all the money hoping for a cure?
Nope, probably not. Ever been in ICU? ...my my my...It looks like a sci fi theater. Just clinging to life at any cost...Any way...just my thoughts.

Thanks Miki. I am wondering about something....its about doctors etc. What would be the perfect will of our Father.
This is something that each person I suppose has to ask for him or herself.
I was wondering if He would find it annoying if we asked Him first every time to heal us and would He say...I gave you doctors, go to them,,,or would He delight in us trusting Him and developing faith?

I think it would depend on your motive for asking....

Are you trying to prove him? Or do you already know? When l was cring out for God to help me because l was so sick l never expected him to heal me.

I was just expecting him to help me get through it....but he knew l needed a healing.

I wouldn't worry about making myself an example of faith and at the same time l wouldn't get filled with trying to know his perfect will. Who can know the mind of God?

If l where chronically sick l would live day to day. I think each person and each circumstance is different. We have a boy in my cell group that gets 10 on the rickter scale headaches...He just got electonic paddles installed in his brain to help control it.

What would l do with that pain? So much pain you can't even pray....

They'd always have to rush him to the emergency room, for pain...So many drugs! and he has small children. Knowing isn't always easy. But l've cried out to God concerning this...He knows all and if he doesn't want to tell me or l can't hear the answer all l can do is trust him...One thing l do know for sure! He's heard our prayers. And he can work anything out he wants to.

Corny!!! Thank you. thank you, thank you!!!

I believe by posting about this boy that God has revealed to me what he wants to do!!!! This is so exciting...I'll let you know. It might take some time.

Happy Birthday to you!!!!!!!!!!!

We had a graduation cerimony for the seniors of our church this past Sunday and it happened that the "heavey hitters" of the congregation all had seniors, which ment they were not supposed to participate in the cooking or decorations. We have a small congregation so that ment me and another woman who is an older woman and never married..no children...can't sew and eats out...which left me.

No table clothes so I run to the fabric store...make some black mortor board hats, tiny diplomas...whatever. One womn brought an unchurched friend to the breakfast and she sat down next to me. She was right our of the half way house my friend supports and her skin looked it....but there was something submissive in her eyes when she looked at me. She said, "It must be nice to know what your gifts are in the Lord." I couldn't answer at first...fast prayer in the mind and then "It has taken awhile. Mostly, I think, I just had to get older and look back and see what I was good at and felt joy doing and that was what He needed from me."

That service, she answered the alter call and wept in the pastor's arms. Actually, she and I went to the alter at the same time, just us two...her with the preacher and me because God told me to. I was just quiet. And I realized that half way house woman was much more submissive than I that day. I had performed well. Was thanked and praised and couldn't get away from it (I hate words over anything I do...absolutely hate it), and she just showed up. Child of God.

I don't think there IS an answer. I think the only time we are submissive is when we are crying. Any other time there is a....dedication....that pushes God away.

God just happens. We are always His children, but sometimes we have to do the "other" part (things must get done) and sometimes we are allowed "the better part". I like the switching...the coming and going in those two. But I am trying to feel the crying child while doing the working child.

Miki, you make more sense than I!

leia

"My words that I place in my peoples lips shall be as a fire that consumes the grasses and the leaves and branches. A day is coming that shall burn like the heat of an oven."