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taltimbr
mellow.gif Since the fall of man in the garden, man has been corrupted with the
knowledge of evil. God had to evict Adam and Eve from the garden to ensure they
did not partake in the tree of life and live forever in their sins!
God devised a plan of redemption and Jesus fulfilled the law which demanded death
as a consequence of sin. Jesus died for everyones sins. We as individuals must except God's
free gift of salvation.
We are all guilty of sin. Thank God for Jesus who thru His act of redemption on the cross
has given all the chance of forgiveness.
I pray that all would ask Jesus for forgiveness today and be born again of the spirit of
God and live forever as a child of God Almighty.

God Bless
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Not sons like in angels, but sons like in those who served God.
I say that because of this scripture:
Hbr 1:5 ¶ For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

So , not an angel according to the Bible. They were the mighty MEN of old. They served God whereas some , like the offspring of Cain, did not. So the people of God lusted after the people that did not serve God and had children with them. God hated the mix. He likes His people to be clean and not mixed with the world.
They were huge in those days. Many reasons: the curse was still developing, the water canopy over them changed, the pressure changed, if we look at their lifespan we see how it started to shorten after the flood.

Some genes were slower to go, we see the leftover in people like Goliath.
C


I am inclined to believe the book of Enoch on the matter of the giants C. Only because the people of God in the new testament believed it.
After reading it I felt that the book of Enoch had been done much damage in translation, so I asked the Lord to straighten it out for me, which He did.
Enoch did become a friend of God by becoming a mediator for the fallen watchers. The watchers were created beings without mother or father. Remember that man was created in the image of God or more accurately in the Image of Christ. The watchers were created in the same image but created immortal to be intercessors between man and God. They can not die, so for what they did, the Lord has prepared an individual place of darkness for each one. This includes the spirits of the giants who's flesh can die but their spirit can not. The evil spirits that can posses man such as "legion" are the spirits of the giants. God sent another messenger to corrupt the Spirits of the giants to kill each other and eat each others flesh and finally finished them off with the flood.


Hello Godsloft,

This subject of giants or nephillium, which I also believe truely exsisted at some time as it does say they did in the word. wink.gif And, often I have asked on many a forum..."Have man's genes been corrupted spiritually as well as physically?" This is the first time I have read someone "thinking similiarly" on the subject of how man's fallen nature has just matured with the help of spiritual evils and being nutured by flesh into the "reality of how brutal man is to one another". Somewhere in here, I did ask once if "genes could be passed down physically for us...Why not spiritually also? unsure.gif

And, I know some will say, man has always been brutal to each other, but these days it just seems "way more prolific". I just watch and read news and am apaulled daily at man's inhumanity to each other! And, I have been watching the end times unfold for 32 years and it certainly hasn't gotten better as to how people treat each other. It really makes me sad to see how brutal and cruel people can be. sad.gif And, I know...it must get worse before it will be a "Happily Ever After" ending! But, hurray that IS the end of the book! Amen! wub.gif your sister in Christ, hannah smile.gif NO MATTER WHAT COMES MY WAY...BECAUSE OF HIM!!! wub.gif

Onion

[size=4]It seems we are closer to this one-world system everyday so let us make the most of our time and tell as many as we can as often as we can about the saving power of Jesus Christ.
Dio
I agree with Onion, and I wanted to thank C for making this thread also, as I myself have brought it up many times, but it was skipped over.

The way I agree with Onion is in that, the only real thing we can do to help God's Will is to continue to try and get the Gospel out. The Good News must be heard, expecially in this time of mass confusion.

With that said, I also want to commend C for not being asleep in this time. Jesus is truth, and therefore by extension as his followers, we are to seek truth always. If we honestly seek truth, then God can help us to understand better where we are at in the world - and the urgency that must be felt in spreading His Word.

As we all know, none of us will know details or the mechanics of how God will shape the future, but He did give us signs so that we may understand where we are at presently! Again, I want to stress the end-point of this I think was designed so that we would understand our place, and how important it is to spread the Gospel with what time we are given.

I sincerely hope that more will wake up to these things, and try to discern truth no matter what the subject matter may be. I also sincerely hope believers can understand how prophecy should be driving our urgency, and in doing so - hopefully we can become 'on fire' for the Lord, before those we love are literally on fire.
Jesusisbest
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QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ May 21 2006, 12:17 AM)
ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT...

Interesting, that the Iranian madman wants this.  The New Sanhedrin wants to ressurect an old document in the UN.  The EU is working to divide the world into ten regions.  The Muslims are looking for the 12th Imam, the Jews are looking for the Messiah, and we are looking heavenward for our redemption draweth nigh.  It is time to remove both our feet from the world and place them on HOLY GROUND. JESUS is COMING.
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Amen, this world has nothing for us.
I am ready to go home and be with Jesus


The seasons and the signs of the times are here. Hopefully those who have given false alarms for so many years in the past won't cause to many to not pay attention now.
Father Onesimus
Yeah, that'll work! C'mon, the UN is so incompetent that the only thing they've accomplished in their 60 year history is that finally--sometime back in the early '90s, they produced a reasonably attractive Christmas card!
willow
QUOTE (Cornelius @ Aug 13 2006, 09:47 AM) *
Actually Miki, it is plain and simple smile.gif So simple that a child CAN understand it. Only if you do not want to SEE , does it become a problem.
love C

after thought; I find it interesting that you call me quoting scripture complicated. Have a look again, and see. I actually write very little of my own thoughts , but I do however give you a lot of scripture.

I could have said it more simply ,(there is just so many scriptures smile.gif )so I will simplify it :

The Bible calls us : a lampstand and an olive tree.
Revelation calls the two witnesses: lampstands and olive trees.

The rest of my post explains why God needs two.


that is the simple version
love C



I tend to like the simple version also. 1dsz5h2.gif


willow
QUOTE (taltimbr @ Jul 21 2007, 08:04 PM) *
rolleyes.gif Amen brother in Christ. The World government is all but set up and most are
not even aware of it! The ten kings will do the anti-christ's bidding for one hour (must be God's
time) as we know the tribulation lasts 7 years. When Jesus comes to take believers away, the
world system will be all setup! The anti-christ will appear on the scene with supposedly all the
answers. The world church and the ten kings will help him gain and maintain control over
EVERYONE for a short time.
Can everyone believe we are that close to the end of the age? Remember Satan is the master
of deception and he surely has the world deceived. Stay in the word of God and comfort each
other with the blessed hope... the return of Jesus, the resurrection of past believers and the
removal of believers that are alive at His appearance.

Praise be to Jesus,

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QUOTE (onetiggerroo @ May 21 2006, 01:17 AM) *

ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT...

Interesting, that the Iranian madman wants this. The New Sanhedrin wants to ressurect an old document in the UN. The EU is working to divide the world into ten regions. The Muslims are looking for the 12th Imam, the Jews are looking for the Messiah, and we are looking heavenward for our redemption draweth nigh. It is time to remove both our feet from the world and place them on HOLY GROUND. JESUS is COMING.




I feel it and know it (the End of this Age) is so very near yet not even the church I attend will preach it.
Roxygal
Welcome to the board...so why did you come here if you don't believe in God?
Minister D
QUOTE (Cornelius @ May 20 2006, 02:58 PM) *
35. Develop a world university system. Obtain the correction of prejudicial communicative materials which cause misunderstandings or conflicts due to differences of race, religion, sex, national origin or affiliation.36. Organize, coordinate and/or administer a voluntary, non‑military World Service Corps, to carry out a wide variety of projects designed to serve human welfare.

Ok that is just one selection I thought to lift out. Here is a bit of it and then you can read the link:
A CONSTITUTION FOR THE FEDERATION OF EARTH

Article 1 ‑ Broad Functions of the World Government
The broad functions of the Federation of Earth shall be:
1. To prevent war, secure disarmament, and resolve territorial and other disputes which endanger peace and human rights.

2. To protect universal human rights, including life, liberty, security, democracy, and equal opportunities in life.

3. To obtain for all people on earth the conditions required for equitable economic and social development and for diminishing social differences.

4. To regulate world trade, communications, transportation, currency, standards, use of world resources, and other global and international processes.

5. To protect the environment and the ecological fabric of life from all sources of damage, and to control technological innovations whose effects transcend national boundaries, for the purpose of keeping Earth a safe, healthy and happy home for humanity .

6. To devise and implement solutions to all problems which are beyond the capacity of national governments, or which are now or may become of global or international concern or consequence.



Article 2 ‑ Basic Structure of World Federation and World Government
1. The Federation of Earth shall be organized as a universal federation, to include all nations and all people, and to encompass all oceans, seas and lands of Earth, inclusive of non‑self governing territories, together with the surrounding atmosphere.

2. The World Government for the Federation of Earth shall be non‑military and shall be democratic in its own structure, with ultimate sovereignty residing in all the people who live on Earth.

3. The authority and powers granted to the World Government shall be limited to those defined in this Constitution for the Federation of Earth, applicable to problems and affairs which transcend national boundaries, leaving to national governments jurisdiction over the internal affairs of the respective nations but consistent with the authority of the World Government to protect universal human rights as defined in this World Constitution.

4. The basic direct electoral and administrative units of the World Government shall be World Electoral and Administrative Districts. A total of not more than 1000 World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be defined, and shall be nearly equal in population, within the limits of plus or minus ten percent.

5. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be combined as may be appropriate to compose a total of twenty World Electoral and Administrative Regions for the following purposes, but not limited thereto: for the election or appointment of certain world government officials; for administrative purposes; for composing various organs of the world government as enumerated in Article IV; for the functioning of the Judiciary, the Enforcement System, and the Ombudsmus, as well as for the functioning of any other organ or agency of the World Government.

6. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Districts, taking into consideration geographic, cultural, ecological and other factors as well as population.

7. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped together in pairs to compose Magna‑Regions.

8. The boundaries for World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall not cross the boundaries of the World Electoral and Administrative Districts, and shall be common insofar as feasible for the various administrative departments and for the several organs and agencies of the World Government. Boundaries for the World Electoral and Administrative Districts as well as for the Regions need not conform to existing national boundaries, but shall conform as far as practicable.

9. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped to compose at least five Continental Divisions of the Earth, for the election or appointment of certain world government officials, and for certain aspects of the composition and functioning of the several organs and agencies of the World Government as specified hereinafter. The boundaries of Continental Divisions shall not cross existing national boundaries as far as practicable. Continental Divisions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Regions.



Article 3 ‑ Organs of the World Government
The organs of the World Government shall be:

1. The World Parliament.

2. The World Executive.

3. The World Administration.

4. The Integrative Complex.

5. The World Judiciary.

6. The Enforcement System.

7. The World Ombudsmus.



Article 4 ‑ Grant of Specific Powers to the World Government
The powers of the World government to be exercised through its several organs and agencies shall comprise the following:

1. Prevent wars and armed conflicts among the nations, regions, districts, parts and peoples of Earth.

2. Supervise disarmament and prevent re‑armament; prohibit and eliminate the design, testing, manufacture, sale, purchase, use and possession of weapons of mass destruction, and prohibit or regulate all lethal weapons which the World Parliament may decide.

3. Prohibit incitement to war, and discrimination against or defamation of conscientious objectors.

4. Provide the means for peaceful and just solutions of disputes and conflicts among or between nations, peoples, and/or other components within the Federation of Earth.

5. Supervise boundary settlements and conduct plebiscites as needed.

6. Define the boundaries for the districts, regions and divisions which are established for electoral, administrative, judicial and other purposes of the World Government.

7. Define and regulate procedures for the nomination and election of the members of each House of the World Parliament, and for the nomination, election, appointment and employment of all World Government officials and personnel.

8. Codify world laws, including the body of international law developed prior to adoption of the world constitution, but not inconsistent therewith, and which is approved by the World Parliament.

9. Establish universal standards for weights, measurements, accounting and records.

10. Provide assistance in the event of large scale calamities, including drought, famine, pestilence, flood, earthquake, hurricane, ecological disruptions and other disasters.

11. Guarantee and enforce the civil liberties and the basic human rights which are defined in the Bill of Rights for the Citizens of Earth which is made a part of this World Constitution under Article 12.

12. Define standards and promote the worldwide improvement in working conditions, nutrition, health, housing, human settlements, environmental conditions, education, economic security, and other conditions defined under Article 13 of this World Constitution.

13. Regulate and supervise international transportation, communications, postal services, and migrations of people.

14. Regulate and supervise supra‑national trade, industry, corporations, businesses, cartels, professional services, labor supply, finances, investments and insurance.

15. Secure and supervise the elimination of tariffs and other trade barriers among nations, but with provisions to prevent or minimize hardship for those previously protected by tariffs.

16. Raise the revenues and funds, by direct and/or indirect means, which are necessary for the purposes and activities of the World Government.

17. Establish and operate world financial, banking, credit and insurance institutions designed to serve human needs; establish, issue and regulate world currency, credit and exchange.

18. Plan for and regulate the development, use, conservation and re‑cycling of the natural resources of Earth as the common heritage of Humanity; protect the environment in every way for the benefit of both present and future generations.

19. Create and operate a World Economic Development Organization to serve equitably the needs of all nations and people included within the World Federation.

20. Develop and implement solutions to transnational problems of food supply, agricultural production, soil fertility, soil conservation, pest control, diet, nutrition, drugs and poisons, and the disposal of toxic wastes.

21. Develop and implement means to control population growth in relation to the life‑support capacities of Earth, and solve problems of population distribution.

http://www.radford.edu/~gmartin/CEF.htm#article15



Well it has arrived, We as Christian will be viewed as pest, Satan's wrath will soon begin, The tribulation is coming.

Minister D
OneOfHisHandmaidens
I belive the tribulation is HERE...........................what is coming soon....is the GREAT TRIBULATION!!!
Minister D
QUOTE (Minister D @ Apr 21 2008, 02:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Cornelius @ May 20 2006, 02:58 PM) *
35. Develop a world university system. Obtain the correction of prejudicial communicative materials which cause misunderstandings or conflicts due to differences of race, religion, sex, national origin or affiliation.36. Organize, coordinate and/or administer a voluntary, non‑military World Service Corps, to carry out a wide variety of projects designed to serve human welfare.

Ok that is just one selection I thought to lift out. Here is a bit of it and then you can read the link:
A CONSTITUTION FOR THE FEDERATION OF EARTH

Article 1 ‑ Broad Functions of the World Government
The broad functions of the Federation of Earth shall be:
1. To prevent war, secure disarmament, and resolve territorial and other disputes which endanger peace and human rights.

2. To protect universal human rights, including life, liberty, security, democracy, and equal opportunities in life.

3. To obtain for all people on earth the conditions required for equitable economic and social development and for diminishing social differences.

4. To regulate world trade, communications, transportation, currency, standards, use of world resources, and other global and international processes.

5. To protect the environment and the ecological fabric of life from all sources of damage, and to control technological innovations whose effects transcend national boundaries, for the purpose of keeping Earth a safe, healthy and happy home for humanity .

6. To devise and implement solutions to all problems which are beyond the capacity of national governments, or which are now or may become of global or international concern or consequence.



Article 2 ‑ Basic Structure of World Federation and World Government
1. The Federation of Earth shall be organized as a universal federation, to include all nations and all people, and to encompass all oceans, seas and lands of Earth, inclusive of non‑self governing territories, together with the surrounding atmosphere.

2. The World Government for the Federation of Earth shall be non‑military and shall be democratic in its own structure, with ultimate sovereignty residing in all the people who live on Earth.

3. The authority and powers granted to the World Government shall be limited to those defined in this Constitution for the Federation of Earth, applicable to problems and affairs which transcend national boundaries, leaving to national governments jurisdiction over the internal affairs of the respective nations but consistent with the authority of the World Government to protect universal human rights as defined in this World Constitution.

4. The basic direct electoral and administrative units of the World Government shall be World Electoral and Administrative Districts. A total of not more than 1000 World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be defined, and shall be nearly equal in population, within the limits of plus or minus ten percent.

5. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be combined as may be appropriate to compose a total of twenty World Electoral and Administrative Regions for the following purposes, but not limited thereto: for the election or appointment of certain world government officials; for administrative purposes; for composing various organs of the world government as enumerated in Article IV; for the functioning of the Judiciary, the Enforcement System, and the Ombudsmus, as well as for the functioning of any other organ or agency of the World Government.

6. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Districts, taking into consideration geographic, cultural, ecological and other factors as well as population.

7. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped together in pairs to compose Magna‑Regions.

8. The boundaries for World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall not cross the boundaries of the World Electoral and Administrative Districts, and shall be common insofar as feasible for the various administrative departments and for the several organs and agencies of the World Government. Boundaries for the World Electoral and Administrative Districts as well as for the Regions need not conform to existing national boundaries, but shall conform as far as practicable.

9. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped to compose at least five Continental Divisions of the Earth, for the election or appointment of certain world government officials, and for certain aspects of the composition and functioning of the several organs and agencies of the World Government as specified hereinafter. The boundaries of Continental Divisions shall not cross existing national boundaries as far as practicable. Continental Divisions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Regions.



Article 3 ‑ Organs of the World Government
The organs of the World Government shall be:

1. The World Parliament.

2. The World Executive.

3. The World Administration.

4. The Integrative Complex.

5. The World Judiciary.

6. The Enforcement System.

7. The World Ombudsmus.



Article 4 ‑ Grant of Specific Powers to the World Government
The powers of the World government to be exercised through its several organs and agencies shall comprise the following:

1. Prevent wars and armed conflicts among the nations, regions, districts, parts and peoples of Earth.

2. Supervise disarmament and prevent re‑armament; prohibit and eliminate the design, testing, manufacture, sale, purchase, use and possession of weapons of mass destruction, and prohibit or regulate all lethal weapons which the World Parliament may decide.

3. Prohibit incitement to war, and discrimination against or defamation of conscientious objectors.

4. Provide the means for peaceful and just solutions of disputes and conflicts among or between nations, peoples, and/or other components within the Federation of Earth.

5. Supervise boundary settlements and conduct plebiscites as needed.

6. Define the boundaries for the districts, regions and divisions which are established for electoral, administrative, judicial and other purposes of the World Government.

7. Define and regulate procedures for the nomination and election of the members of each House of the World Parliament, and for the nomination, election, appointment and employment of all World Government officials and personnel.

8. Codify world laws, including the body of international law developed prior to adoption of the world constitution, but not inconsistent therewith, and which is approved by the World Parliament.

9. Establish universal standards for weights, measurements, accounting and records.

10. Provide assistance in the event of large scale calamities, including drought, famine, pestilence, flood, earthquake, hurricane, ecological disruptions and other disasters.

11. Guarantee and enforce the civil liberties and the basic human rights which are defined in the Bill of Rights for the Citizens of Earth which is made a part of this World Constitution under Article 12.

12. Define standards and promote the worldwide improvement in working conditions, nutrition, health, housing, human settlements, environmental conditions, education, economic security, and other conditions defined under Article 13 of this World Constitution.

13. Regulate and supervise international transportation, communications, postal services, and migrations of people.

14. Regulate and supervise supra‑national trade, industry, corporations, businesses, cartels, professional services, labor supply, finances, investments and insurance.

15. Secure and supervise the elimination of tariffs and other trade barriers among nations, but with provisions to prevent or minimize hardship for those previously protected by tariffs.

16. Raise the revenues and funds, by direct and/or indirect means, which are necessary for the purposes and activities of the World Government.

17. Establish and operate world financial, banking, credit and insurance institutions designed to serve human needs; establish, issue and regulate world currency, credit and exchange.

18. Plan for and regulate the development, use, conservation and re‑cycling of the natural resources of Earth as the common heritage of Humanity; protect the environment in every way for the benefit of both present and future generations.

19. Create and operate a World Economic Development Organization to serve equitably the needs of all nations and people included within the World Federation.

20. Develop and implement solutions to transnational problems of food supply, agricultural production, soil fertility, soil conservation, pest control, diet, nutrition, drugs and poisons, and the disposal of toxic wastes.

21. Develop and implement means to control population growth in relation to the life‑support capacities of Earth, and solve problems of population distribution.

http://www.radford.edu/~gmartin/CEF.htm#article15



Well it has arrived, We as Christian will be viewed as pest, Satan's wrath will soon begin, The tribulation is coming.

Minister D


The World Government for the Federation of Earth shall establish and maintain peaceful relations with other planets and celestial bodies where and when it may become possible to establish communications with the possible inhabitants thereof.

Demons Under The New Name Of Aliens

We are being re-visited

In The Memory Of William Cooper
Dedicated to Mister Cooper the time is now

http://gdtr.topcities.com/life/Alien.html

All explorations into outer space, both within and beyond the solar system in which Planet Earth is located, shall be under the exclusive direction and control of the World Government, and <u>shall be conducted in such manner as shall be determined by the World Parliament.</u>

D


Here Am I
QUOTE (Minister D @ Apr 21 2008, 03:40 PM) *
QUOTE (Minister D @ Apr 21 2008, 02:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Cornelius @ May 20 2006, 02:58 PM) *
35. Develop a world university system. Obtain the correction of prejudicial communicative materials which cause misunderstandings or conflicts due to differences of race, religion, sex, national origin or affiliation.36. Organize, coordinate and/or administer a voluntary, non‑military World Service Corps, to carry out a wide variety of projects designed to serve human welfare.

Ok that is just one selection I thought to lift out. Here is a bit of it and then you can read the link:
A CONSTITUTION FOR THE FEDERATION OF EARTH

Article 1 ‑ Broad Functions of the World Government
The broad functions of the Federation of Earth shall be:
1. To prevent war, secure disarmament, and resolve territorial and other disputes which endanger peace and human rights.

2. To protect universal human rights, including life, liberty, security, democracy, and equal opportunities in life.

3. To obtain for all people on earth the conditions required for equitable economic and social development and for diminishing social differences.

4. To regulate world trade, communications, transportation, currency, standards, use of world resources, and other global and international processes.

5. To protect the environment and the ecological fabric of life from all sources of damage, and to control technological innovations whose effects transcend national boundaries, for the purpose of keeping Earth a safe, healthy and happy home for humanity .

6. To devise and implement solutions to all problems which are beyond the capacity of national governments, or which are now or may become of global or international concern or consequence.



Article 2 ‑ Basic Structure of World Federation and World Government
1. The Federation of Earth shall be organized as a universal federation, to include all nations and all people, and to encompass all oceans, seas and lands of Earth, inclusive of non‑self governing territories, together with the surrounding atmosphere.

2. The World Government for the Federation of Earth shall be non‑military and shall be democratic in its own structure, with ultimate sovereignty residing in all the people who live on Earth.

3. The authority and powers granted to the World Government shall be limited to those defined in this Constitution for the Federation of Earth, applicable to problems and affairs which transcend national boundaries, leaving to national governments jurisdiction over the internal affairs of the respective nations but consistent with the authority of the World Government to protect universal human rights as defined in this World Constitution.

4. The basic direct electoral and administrative units of the World Government shall be World Electoral and Administrative Districts. A total of not more than 1000 World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be defined, and shall be nearly equal in population, within the limits of plus or minus ten percent.

5. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be combined as may be appropriate to compose a total of twenty World Electoral and Administrative Regions for the following purposes, but not limited thereto: for the election or appointment of certain world government officials; for administrative purposes; for composing various organs of the world government as enumerated in Article IV; for the functioning of the Judiciary, the Enforcement System, and the Ombudsmus, as well as for the functioning of any other organ or agency of the World Government.

6. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Districts, taking into consideration geographic, cultural, ecological and other factors as well as population.

7. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped together in pairs to compose Magna‑Regions.

8. The boundaries for World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall not cross the boundaries of the World Electoral and Administrative Districts, and shall be common insofar as feasible for the various administrative departments and for the several organs and agencies of the World Government. Boundaries for the World Electoral and Administrative Districts as well as for the Regions need not conform to existing national boundaries, but shall conform as far as practicable.

9. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped to compose at least five Continental Divisions of the Earth, for the election or appointment of certain world government officials, and for certain aspects of the composition and functioning of the several organs and agencies of the World Government as specified hereinafter. The boundaries of Continental Divisions shall not cross existing national boundaries as far as practicable. Continental Divisions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Regions.



Article 3 ‑ Organs of the World Government
The organs of the World Government shall be:

1. The World Parliament.

2. The World Executive.

3. The World Administration.

4. The Integrative Complex.

5. The World Judiciary.

6. The Enforcement System.

7. The World Ombudsmus.



Article 4 ‑ Grant of Specific Powers to the World Government
The powers of the World government to be exercised through its several organs and agencies shall comprise the following:

1. Prevent wars and armed conflicts among the nations, regions, districts, parts and peoples of Earth.

2. Supervise disarmament and prevent re‑armament; prohibit and eliminate the design, testing, manufacture, sale, purchase, use and possession of weapons of mass destruction, and prohibit or regulate all lethal weapons which the World Parliament may decide.

3. Prohibit incitement to war, and discrimination against or defamation of conscientious objectors.

4. Provide the means for peaceful and just solutions of disputes and conflicts among or between nations, peoples, and/or other components within the Federation of Earth.

5. Supervise boundary settlements and conduct plebiscites as needed.

6. Define the boundaries for the districts, regions and divisions which are established for electoral, administrative, judicial and other purposes of the World Government.

7. Define and regulate procedures for the nomination and election of the members of each House of the World Parliament, and for the nomination, election, appointment and employment of all World Government officials and personnel.

8. Codify world laws, including the body of international law developed prior to adoption of the world constitution, but not inconsistent therewith, and which is approved by the World Parliament.

9. Establish universal standards for weights, measurements, accounting and records.

10. Provide assistance in the event of large scale calamities, including drought, famine, pestilence, flood, earthquake, hurricane, ecological disruptions and other disasters.

11. Guarantee and enforce the civil liberties and the basic human rights which are defined in the Bill of Rights for the Citizens of Earth which is made a part of this World Constitution under Article 12.

12. Define standards and promote the worldwide improvement in working conditions, nutrition, health, housing, human settlements, environmental conditions, education, economic security, and other conditions defined under Article 13 of this World Constitution.

13. Regulate and supervise international transportation, communications, postal services, and migrations of people.

14. Regulate and supervise supra‑national trade, industry, corporations, businesses, cartels, professional services, labor supply, finances, investments and insurance.

15. Secure and supervise the elimination of tariffs and other trade barriers among nations, but with provisions to prevent or minimize hardship for those previously protected by tariffs.

16. Raise the revenues and funds, by direct and/or indirect means, which are necessary for the purposes and activities of the World Government.

17. Establish and operate world financial, banking, credit and insurance institutions designed to serve human needs; establish, issue and regulate world currency, credit and exchange.

18. Plan for and regulate the development, use, conservation and re‑cycling of the natural resources of Earth as the common heritage of Humanity; protect the environment in every way for the benefit of both present and future generations.

19. Create and operate a World Economic Development Organization to serve equitably the needs of all nations and people included within the World Federation.

20. Develop and implement solutions to transnational problems of food supply, agricultural production, soil fertility, soil conservation, pest control, diet, nutrition, drugs and poisons, and the disposal of toxic wastes.

21. Develop and implement means to control population growth in relation to the life‑support capacities of Earth, and solve problems of population distribution.

http://www.radford.edu/~gmartin/CEF.htm#article15



Well it has arrived, We as Christian will be viewed as pest, Satan's wrath will soon begin, The tribulation is coming.

Minister D


The World Government for the Federation of Earth shall establish and maintain peaceful relations with other planets and celestial bodies where and when it may become possible to establish communications with the possible inhabitants thereof.

Demons Under The New Name Of Aliens

We are being re-visited

In The Memory Of William Cooper
Dedicated to Mister Cooper the time is now

http://gdtr.topcities.com/life/Alien.html

All explorations into outer space, both within and beyond the solar system in which Planet Earth is located, shall be under the exclusive direction and control of the World Government, and <u>shall be conducted in such manner as shall be determined by the World Parliament.</u>

D




Good articles C and D.

"Alien is simply another name used as a cloak for demons"

"As history repeats itself, let it be understood that we are living in a time likened as "in the days of Noah" (I Peter 3:20). With "dark skies" prevailing and the overwhelming presence of evil around us, what are we to do? I Corinthians 10:13 explains, "There hath no temptation taken you but such as common to man : but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." There is no physical place to hide from this onslaught of carnality except by taking refuge in our spiritual fortress, God Almighty (Psalm 91:2)."

whirlwind
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Apr 21 2008, 06:45 PM) *
Good articles C and D.

"Alien is simply another name used as a cloak for demons"

"As history repeats itself, let it be understood that we are living in a time likened as "in the days of Noah" (I Peter 3:20). With "dark skies" prevailing and the overwhelming presence of evil around us, what are we to do? I Corinthians 10:13 explains, "There hath no temptation taken you but such as common to man : but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." There is no physical place to hide from this onslaught of carnality except by taking refuge in our spiritual fortress, God Almighty (Psalm 91:2)."




Very interesting articles...from everyone. It is sad to realize what a very sheltered life I have led. Actually what the great majority of the world leads now.


Well, my eyes have been opened. ohmy.gif


Over dinner tonight my mother mentioned that some of the larger stores are beginning to limit how many of one type of item each person can buy....rationing. Rice, flour, sugar, etc. It seems people are beginning to worry and are trying to stock up. unsure.gif


This country is in for such a shock if they can't go to the neighborhood store and purchase exactly what they want, when they want it. Most families maintain just a few weeks worth of goods. Americans believe the bubble will never burst and if it should then the government will surely make it alright again. wacko.gif



.......Whirlwind
Here Am I
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Apr 21 2008, 08:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Apr 21 2008, 06:45 PM) *
Good articles C and D.

"Alien is simply another name used as a cloak for demons"

"As history repeats itself, let it be understood that we are living in a time likened as "in the days of Noah" (I Peter 3:20). With "dark skies" prevailing and the overwhelming presence of evil around us, what are we to do? I Corinthians 10:13 explains, "There hath no temptation taken you but such as common to man : but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." There is no physical place to hide from this onslaught of carnality except by taking refuge in our spiritual fortress, God Almighty (Psalm 91:2)."




Very interesting articles...from everyone. It is sad to realize what a very sheltered life I have led. Actually what the great majority of the world leads now.


Well, my eyes have been opened. ohmy.gif


Over dinner tonight my mother mentioned that some of the larger stores are beginning to limit how many of one type of item each person can buy....rationing. Rice, flour, sugar, etc. It seems people are beginning to worry and are trying to stock up. unsure.gif


This country is in for such a shock if they can't go to the neighborhood store and purchase exactly what they want, when they want it. Most families maintain just a few weeks worth of goods. Americans believe the bubble will never burst and if it should then the government will surely make it alright again. wacko.gif



.......Whirlwind



I know very intelligent people who are believing that the government will never let an economic crash happen. wacko.gif And there are those who are buying foreclosed houses, thinking they're getting such a great deal, not realizing the ramifications of a 30-year debt bondage. wacko.gif

People should have started getting themselves out of debt years ago. The writing has been on the wall for quite awhile.

All the preparations for this planned demolition are in place. Food rationing, shortages and total economic crash seems to be very imminent.
whirlwind
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Apr 21 2008, 07:45 PM) *
I know very intelligent people who are believing that the government will never let an economic crash happen. wacko.gif And there are those who are buying foreclosed houses, thinking they're getting such a great deal, not realizing the ramifications of a 30-year debt bondage. wacko.gif

People should have started getting themselves out of debt years ago. The writing has been on the wall for quite awhile.

All the preparations for this planned demolition are in place. Food rationing, shortages and total economic crash seems to be very imminent.




On the news this morning there was talk of gas going to $5.00 a gallon ohmy.gif .


Imminent indeed!


....Whirlwind
Here Am I
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Apr 22 2008, 09:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Apr 21 2008, 07:45 PM) *
I know very intelligent people who are believing that the government will never let an economic crash happen. wacko.gif And there are those who are buying foreclosed houses, thinking they're getting such a great deal, not realizing the ramifications of a 30-year debt bondage. wacko.gif

People should have started getting themselves out of debt years ago. The writing has been on the wall for quite awhile.

All the preparations for this planned demolition are in place. Food rationing, shortages and total economic crash seems to be very imminent.




On the news this morning there was talk of gas going to $5.00 a gallon ohmy.gif .


Imminent indeed!


....Whirlwind




Is $200/barrel oil around the corner?
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/09/is-200-...und-the-corner/

It's currently at $117/barrel (last time I checked) and it is not even quite $4/gallon yet.

$15 per gallon of gas… coming soon?
http://jpgunshinan.greenoptions.com/2008/0...as-coming-soon/
Roxygal
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Apr 22 2008, 09:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Apr 21 2008, 07:45 PM) *
I know very intelligent people who are believing that the government will never let an economic crash happen. wacko.gif And there are those who are buying foreclosed houses, thinking they're getting such a great deal, not realizing the ramifications of a 30-year debt bondage. wacko.gif

People should have started getting themselves out of debt years ago. The writing has been on the wall for quite awhile.

All the preparations for this planned demolition are in place. Food rationing, shortages and total economic crash seems to be very imminent.




On the news this morning there was talk of gas going to $5.00 a gallon ohmy.gif .


Imminent indeed!


....Whirlwind



Yup...time to tune up the bicycle!...good for my thighs anyway! tongue.gif
grouchyhermit
I hate resurrecting old topics and this one has been dead for over a month by the looks of things, but I just had to chime in.
I belong to a few email groups of fellow conspiracy kooks, one message that has come across is in 2013 we are supposed to hear announced that our world has been visited and we are joining a "galatic congress" so we have to have a one world government to get away with it. We have seen the programming for years, I was a Star Trek fan, you can tell now with hearing things like this that all those shows were nothing more than getting the people used to the idea, they knew good and well where they were heading, they just had to lead us there.
I'd love to say more, but currently I have to go feed my 6 aliens! Well, that's what they act like anyway, not from this planet!
signet
gasoline on the way home...4.14 and 4.47 so cal

i let my cell phone go the other day...this was a contributing
factor and the other was that i spent alot of work time using
it for work...or at work using it for non work...either way
it became a burden.

i cancelled DSL, but it hasn't stopped yet...not sure why?
but it was a comfort to come in and find my friends here
as usual.

signet
Andypants
signit, you should get a dial-up account, it cost as little as $5 a month.
Good for limited use, such as checking out whats really going on in the world every once in awhile, and saying hello!
John Prewett
Religion President and pontiff Web Posted: 06/07/2008 12:57 AM CDT

By Francis X. Rocca Religion News Service

VATICAN CITY — When President Bush pays a visit to Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican next Friday, it will be his sixth meeting with a pope,
and his third meeting with Benedict in just over a year.

Never in U.S. history has a president consulted so often with the leader of the Catholic Church. Carl Anderson,
a former Reagan aide who now heads the Knights of Columbus, calls it “remarkable.”

“Less than 50 years ago,” he said, “it was a question as to whether a Catholic should even be able to run for president.”

Bush has emphasized his admiration for the papacy, and in particular for Benedict, whom he has called a “very smart, loving man.”
When Benedict arrived in Washington in April, Bush met him on the tarmac, the only time he has so honored any dignitary.

Less obvious is how the pope views the president. It is not only Benedict's relatively shy personality that prevents him from being so demonstrative,
but the customary reserve that his office imposes on its occupants.

“These are the kinds of cards that popes don't show,” said Father Thomas Reese, a senior fellow at Georgetown University's
Woodstock Theological Center and author of “Inside the Vatican.”

Yet according to informed observers, there is reason to believe that Benedict, despite some important policy differences with the president
(most notably over Iraq), feels a genuine affinity with Bush as both a man and a leader.

For the pope, part of the attraction may lie in Bush's life story.

“I'd imagine that he has respect for the president as a man who turned his life around, had a conversion experience,
stopped drinking and started living a religious life,” Reese said.

Benedict, who has warned against the increasing secularization of Europe and praised the prominent role of religion in American public life,
is likely to appreciate a head of state who is “not afraid to express his faith as a Christian,” said Father Joseph Fessio,
a former student of the pope who now runs Ignatius Press, Benedict's principal English-language publisher.

In the president, the pope finds a key supporter of the Catholic Church's positions on such controversial questions as abortion,
stem-cell research and same-sex marriage. Bush's arguments have frequently echoed Benedict's appeals to “natural law”
and even employ the terms of Catholic social doctrine (despite the fact that the president is a Methodist).

Nowhere has the congruence of their thinking been clearer than at April's welcoming ceremony at the White House,
when Bush cited Benedict's denunciation of the “dictatorship of relativism,” and the pope noted the importance of American religiosity
as inspiration for abolitionism and the civil rights movement.

To which Bush replied, “Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech.”

“They could pretty much have given each other's speech,” said William McGurn, Bush's former head speechwriter and a Catholic,
who was present at the ceremony but did not write the president's remarks.

Fessio agreed. “In terms of authentic, normative Catholic teaching, I don't see any area in which the pope and President Bush disagree,” he said.

The most notable case of disharmony between the two leaders was over the 2003 invasion of Iraq,
which then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger opposed at least as ardently as Pope John Paul II.

“But Iraq is not a matter of Catholic social teaching,” Fessio said. “That was a prudential decision on whether or not the use of force was justified.
The pope would be the first to tell you that good Catholics can disagree on that.”

Likewise, Benedict's views on economics, taxation and government regulation — which are known to lie to the left of Bush's —
are merely his personal opinions, not doctrine that he holds as binding on the faithful, Fessio said.

In any case, it would be uncharacteristically undiplomatic of any pope to let past differences get in the way of constructive collaboration
with a world superpower.

“The Vatican knows how to agree and disagree with heads of state and work with them anyway,” Reese said. “It's got a big agenda.”

end quote
Christian Commando
QUOTE (Cornelius @ May 20 2006, 02:58 PM) *
35. Develop a world university system. Obtain the correction of prejudicial communicative materials which cause misunderstandings or conflicts due to differences of race, religion, sex, national origin or affiliation.36. Organize, coordinate and/or administer a voluntary, non‑military World Service Corps, to carry out a wide variety of projects designed to serve human welfare.

Ok that is just one selection I thought to lift out. Here is a bit of it and then you can read the link:
A CONSTITUTION FOR THE FEDERATION OF EARTH

Article 1 ‑ Broad Functions of the World Government
The broad functions of the Federation of Earth shall be:
1. To prevent war, secure disarmament, and resolve territorial and other disputes which endanger peace and human rights.

2. To protect universal human rights, including life, liberty, security, democracy, and equal opportunities in life.

3. To obtain for all people on earth the conditions required for equitable economic and social development and for diminishing social differences.

4. To regulate world trade, communications, transportation, currency, standards, use of world resources, and other global and international processes.

5. To protect the environment and the ecological fabric of life from all sources of damage, and to control technological innovations whose effects transcend national boundaries, for the purpose of keeping Earth a safe, healthy and happy home for humanity .

6. To devise and implement solutions to all problems which are beyond the capacity of national governments, or which are now or may become of global or international concern or consequence.



Article 2 ‑ Basic Structure of World Federation and World Government
1. The Federation of Earth shall be organized as a universal federation, to include all nations and all people, and to encompass all oceans, seas and lands of Earth, inclusive of non‑self governing territories, together with the surrounding atmosphere.

2. The World Government for the Federation of Earth shall be non‑military and shall be democratic in its own structure, with ultimate sovereignty residing in all the people who live on Earth.

3. The authority and powers granted to the World Government shall be limited to those defined in this Constitution for the Federation of Earth, applicable to problems and affairs which transcend national boundaries, leaving to national governments jurisdiction over the internal affairs of the respective nations but consistent with the authority of the World Government to protect universal human rights as defined in this World Constitution.

4. The basic direct electoral and administrative units of the World Government shall be World Electoral and Administrative Districts. A total of not more than 1000 World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be defined, and shall be nearly equal in population, within the limits of plus or minus ten percent.

5. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Districts shall be combined as may be appropriate to compose a total of twenty World Electoral and Administrative Regions for the following purposes, but not limited thereto: for the election or appointment of certain world government officials; for administrative purposes; for composing various organs of the world government as enumerated in Article IV; for the functioning of the Judiciary, the Enforcement System, and the Ombudsmus, as well as for the functioning of any other organ or agency of the World Government.

6. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Districts, taking into consideration geographic, cultural, ecological and other factors as well as population.

7. Contiguous World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped together in pairs to compose Magna‑Regions.

8. The boundaries for World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall not cross the boundaries of the World Electoral and Administrative Districts, and shall be common insofar as feasible for the various administrative departments and for the several organs and agencies of the World Government. Boundaries for the World Electoral and Administrative Districts as well as for the Regions need not conform to existing national boundaries, but shall conform as far as practicable.

9. The World Electoral and Administrative Regions shall be grouped to compose at least five Continental Divisions of the Earth, for the election or appointment of certain world government officials, and for certain aspects of the composition and functioning of the several organs and agencies of the World Government as specified hereinafter. The boundaries of Continental Divisions shall not cross existing national boundaries as far as practicable. Continental Divisions may be composed of a variable number of World Electoral and Administrative Regions.



Article 3 ‑ Organs of the World Government
The organs of the World Government shall be:

1. The World Parliament.

2. The World Executive.

3. The World Administration.

4. The Integrative Complex.

5. The World Judiciary.

6. The Enforcement System.

7. The World Ombudsmus.



Article 4 ‑ Grant of Specific Powers to the World Government
The powers of the World government to be exercised through its several organs and agencies shall comprise the following:

1. Prevent wars and armed conflicts among the nations, regions, districts, parts and peoples of Earth.

2. Supervise disarmament and prevent re‑armament; prohibit and eliminate the design, testing, manufacture, sale, purchase, use and possession of weapons of mass destruction, and prohibit or regulate all lethal weapons which the World Parliament may decide.

3. Prohibit incitement to war, and discrimination against or defamation of conscientious objectors.

4. Provide the means for peaceful and just solutions of disputes and conflicts among or between nations, peoples, and/or other components within the Federation of Earth.

5. Supervise boundary settlements and conduct plebiscites as needed.

6. Define the boundaries for the districts, regions and divisions which are established for electoral, administrative, judicial and other purposes of the World Government.

7. Define and regulate procedures for the nomination and election of the members of each House of the World Parliament, and for the nomination, election, appointment and employment of all World Government officials and personnel.

8. Codify world laws, including the body of international law developed prior to adoption of the world constitution, but not inconsistent therewith, and which is approved by the World Parliament.

9. Establish universal standards for weights, measurements, accounting and records.

10. Provide assistance in the event of large scale calamities, including drought, famine, pestilence, flood, earthquake, hurricane, ecological disruptions and other disasters.

11. Guarantee and enforce the civil liberties and the basic human rights which are defined in the Bill of Rights for the Citizens of Earth which is made a part of this World Constitution under Article 12.

12. Define standards and promote the worldwide improvement in working conditions, nutrition, health, housing, human settlements, environmental conditions, education, economic security, and other conditions defined under Article 13 of this World Constitution.

13. Regulate and supervise international transportation, communications, postal services, and migrations of people.

14. Regulate and supervise supra‑national trade, industry, corporations, businesses, cartels, professional services, labor supply, finances, investments and insurance.

15. Secure and supervise the elimination of tariffs and other trade barriers among nations, but with provisions to prevent or minimize hardship for those previously protected by tariffs.

16. Raise the revenues and funds, by direct and/or indirect means, which are necessary for the purposes and activities of the World Government.

17. Establish and operate world financial, banking, credit and insurance institutions designed to serve human needs; establish, issue and regulate world currency, credit and exchange.

18. Plan for and regulate the development, use, conservation and re‑cycling of the natural resources of Earth as the common heritage of Humanity; protect the environment in every way for the benefit of both present and future generations.

19. Create and operate a World Economic Development Organization to serve equitably the needs of all nations and people included within the World Federation.

20. Develop and implement solutions to transnational problems of food supply, agricultural production, soil fertility, soil conservation, pest control, diet, nutrition, drugs and poisons, and the disposal of toxic wastes.

21. Develop and implement means to control population growth in relation to the life‑support capacities of Earth, and solve problems of population distribution.

http://www.radford.edu/~gmartin/CEF.htm#article15



Well, thats real nice, but where is it then? If those were Country Leader signatures, I've yet to see anything instituted being its well over 10 years since this supposedly happened. Not to mention I havn't seen the anti-christ appearas yet- II Thess. 2:1-4.

Besides that, you have to get all Country's getting along long enough to agree, before they'd let someone else come in and mess with personal affairs between Countries.

God Bless!!
TurnFromEvilAndLive
QUOTE (Cornelius @ Aug 23 2006, 03:25 AM) *
The Ten King Covenant........

..............."The Presidium is made up of five members from five Continental Divisions (Article VI, Section C, 1 and 2). They envision one President for two Magna Regions but the Presidium will ultimately be made up of ten kings as Rev.17:12 says. Their decisions are collective and based on majority decisions. Their term is for one year not seven. Where in this world government is there room for the traditional man called the antichrist? This whole corporate man is the antichrist beast as the Word clearly shows. His very body is seven heads and ten horns with the nations beneath them."



http://americaslastdays.com/tenkingcovenant.htm


THEY RULE AND REIGN WITH THE BEAST FOR ONE YEAR (HOUR). Revelation 17:12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
HeIsFaithful
IAmlives..

I am not very versed in understanding/knowing the (for lack of a better word at the moment) .. hidden meanings? of many things in the scripture.. can you please explain where/how the: hour = one year? in your post above?

THEY RULE AND REIGN WITH THE BEAST FOR ONE YEAR (HOUR). Revelation 17:12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.

thanx!
TurnFromEvilAndLive
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Jul 11 2008, 04:26 AM) *
IAmlives..

I am not very versed in understanding/knowing the (for lack of a better word at the moment) .. hidden meanings? of many things in the scripture.. can you please explain where/how the: hour = one year? in your post above?

THEY RULE AND REIGN WITH THE BEAST FOR ONE YEAR (HOUR). Revelation 17:12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.

thanx!


Hi HeIsFaithful (like your name, it is true!)...
The post I replied to stated that the term of governance would be for one year. Compared to Rev 17:12 where it speaks of the ten horns reigning with the beast for one hour...

It's a correlation. I don't see within scripture where one hour is signified as anything other than one hour, but we do have scripture which states that a day with the Lord is as a thousand years. Also in the book of Daniel there are prophecies of weeks. When looking at the fulfilled prophecies those days actually represented years. (Such as the temple being rebuilt and abominated).

The one hour equaling one year is just my opinion (but influenced by scriptural comparisons).

God bless you,
Kim


HeIsFaithful
hmmm... I don't get it...
a thousand years = a day
an hour = day
hmmm... weeks=years
i will search for more than opinion.. I do know scripture interprets scripture..
thanx for your reply
Elijah674
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Jul 11 2008, 06:25 AM) *
hmmm... I don't get it...
a thousand years = a day
an hour = day
hmmm... weeks=years
i will search for more than opinion.. I do know scripture interprets scripture..
thanx for your reply


Interesting! There are some verses that do suggest such. Numbers 14:32-34 & Eze. 4:6 for just a part of the equation. Even Christ was prophesied to come & die in the 'midst of the week' in Daniel's prophesy. Most have read that Christ was around 30 when He started His ministry. His annointing from God at His baptism (ordination?) to the time of Sauls conversion are used as a week by some bible students. (the new church was to go to the Gentils)

The time of one week is applied as seven days or years such as 27AD to 34AD. With Israel's house or fold (Christ's ex/fold) becoming totally DESOLATE of Himself. (Matt. 23:38) In other words, 'cut off in the midst of the week'.


Then again in Rev. 3:9 we see the exact same repeat with Laodicea in Rev. 3:9 being spewed out as sickening. Rev. 3:16-17.

One week with them, would be their last 'seven years' of their judgement where they also rejected Christ as their Master also, huh? One might compare the Last day of Atonement in Lev. 16:14, & 19 for the 'seven times' of a True Virgin fold, church, denomination, synagogue, [and the Whole Candlestick] as well as just a singular people?? For it is the Word of Inspiration that states the warning for any of these complete whole folds! Rev. 2:5 & Rev. 1:20 for who these ones are!

1 Peter 4:17 does go along with this concept?? 'For the time is come, that judgement must begin at the house of God..' '..FIRST..'

And can one agree that the Rev. 17:5 ones are not this church?? Yet, what about these ones being even called Christian, could any true church be a Christian fold while defining these ones as Christians?? And the question is about the Church, not any one of their members. John 10:16 or Rev. 18:4 is factual as well, as 'i' see it.
signet

world economic forum?



http://www2.weforum.org/site/homepublic.ns...t/Homepage.html
Here Am I
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Jul 11 2008, 06:25 AM) *
hmmm... I don't get it...
a thousand years = a day
an hour = day
hmmm... weeks=years
i will search for more than opinion.. I do know scripture interprets scripture..
thanx for your reply



God gave Noah a 7-day warning to get into the ark.

"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth." -Genesis 7:4

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. "
"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." -2Peter 3:3-8

7-day warning - "as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." Luke 17:26-27

The flood occurred in 4990 BC... and 7.000 years later brings us to 2011. We add the OT years to the NT years and subtract 1 because there is no year zero.

Let us substitute 7,000 years for 7 days. Therefore, God was telling Noah that all of mankind who would ever live in the whole world have 7,000 years to get into the safety of Christ if they are to escape the wrath of God.

4990 + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 years.

"But, beloved, (that's us) be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. -2Peter 3:3-8
Gideon7620
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 3 2008, 08:26 PM) *
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Jul 11 2008, 06:25 AM) *
hmmm... I don't get it...
a thousand years = a day
an hour = day
hmmm... weeks=years
i will search for more than opinion.. I do know scripture interprets scripture..
thanx for your reply



God gave Noah a 7-day warning to get into the ark.

"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth." -Genesis 7:4

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. " 0Peter 3:3-

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." -2Peter 3:3-8

7-day warning - "as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." Luke 17:26-27

The flood occurred in 4990 BC... and 7.000 years later brings us to 2011. We add the OT years to the NT years and subtract 1 because there is no year zero.

Let us substitute 7,000 years for 7 days. Therefore, God was telling Noah that all of mankind who would ever live in the whole world have 7,000 years to get into the safety of Christ if they are to escape the wrath of God.

4990 + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 years.

"But, beloved, (that's us) be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. -2Peter 3:3-8


Yes there are 10 super states. The Beast is trampling the entire earth, finally. North American union is one, South American another, The European Union is another, The African Union is another. Does anyone else care to add to that. Seems to me it is here. The organizational Charts and order just need to be set and set in play.

Power corrupts, Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We are in deep doo doo. Oh well it should be fun to fight the Beast.
Gideon7620
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Jul 11 2008, 05:26 AM) *
IAmlives..

I am not very versed in understanding/knowing the (for lack of a better word at the moment) .. hidden meanings? of many things in the scripture.. can you please explain where/how the: hour = one year? in your post above?

THEY RULE AND REIGN WITH THE BEAST FOR ONE YEAR (HOUR). Revelation 17:12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.

thanx!


Yes one hour, in one hour is she made desolate. The whore. These shall unite and burn her with fire with arrows, missles to accomplish God's will, one hour not a year.
Gideon7620
QUOTE (OneOfHisHandmaidens @ Apr 21 2008, 02:25 PM) *
I belive the tribulation is HERE...........................what is coming soon....is the GREAT TRIBULATION!!!



Interesting what makes you believe it is here already?
Here Am I
"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen
and unheard by the Congress. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating
within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government-a bureaucratic elite."

-Senator William Jenner, 1954

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and excercise power from behind the scenes."
-Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
-Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single,
global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

-Strobe Talbot, Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, 1992

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restre order
(referring to the 1991 L.A. Riot). Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if
they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated
that threatened our very existence. The one thing every man fears is the unknown.
When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the
guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."

-Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberg Conference, Evan, France, 1991

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
against the ruler of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

-Ephesians 6:12
whirlwind
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Oct 8 2008, 07:44 PM) *
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and excercise power from behind the scenes."
-Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952



For me that particular quote really hits home concerning Obama. How and why is he where he is today? ph34r.gif Perhaps another question would be....what and who put him there? All owe allegiance to someone or something but his rise seems very, very odd to me.

Add to that all the things against him, or things that should be against him. Very strange indeed.
signet


politics...an illusion of choice.
Charles Baker
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Oct 8 2008, 08:44 PM) *
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and excercise power from behind the scenes."
-Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
-Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950


Charlie -- Yes, the World Government has its headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. The easiest area of the world to defend that has an habitable climate. That is where the World Trade center has been located following the destruction of the towers in New York. Their destruction wiped out any evidence of collusion in the setting up of the Central Banks, including the Treasury Department, and the World Trade Organizations.

The final forming of the Word Government began in the early 50s, when the UN divided the world into ten financial/commercial regions and set up the organizations to monitor and control world finance and trade. Since that time free trade pact have appeared and when all is in place the 10 'kings', the leaders of the 10 regions, who have no kingdom as yet, when they are given power as kings for one hour with the beast, at the mid-point of the 7 years, the final count-down to the return of Our Lord on the white horse with the armies of heaven will begin.

As I see it.

God Bless you. Charlie.
Charles Baker
Double Post.

My apologies.

God Bless you. Charlie.
Charles Baker
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Oct 8 2008, 08:44 PM) *
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and excercise power from behind the scenes."
-Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
-Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950


Charlie -- Yes, the World Government has its headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. The easiest area of the world to defend that has an habitable climate. That is where the World Trade center was located following the destruction of the towers in New York. Their destruction wiped out all evidence of collusion in the setting up of the Central Banks, including the Treasury Department, and the World Trade Organizations.

The final forming of the World Government began in the early 50s, when the UN divided the world into ten financial/commercial regions and set up the organizations to monitor and control world finance and trade. Since that time free trade pacts have appeared and when all is in place the 10 'kings', the leaders of the 10 regions, who have no kingdom as yet, when they are given power as kings for one hour with the beast, at the mid-point of the 7 years, the final count-down to the return of Our Lord on the white horse with the armies of heaven will begin.

As I see it.

God Bless you. Charlie.
Here Am I
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Oct 9 2008, 10:01 AM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Oct 8 2008, 07:44 PM) *
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and excercise power from behind the scenes."
-Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952



For me that particular quote really hits home concerning Obama. How and why is he where he is today? ph34r.gif Perhaps another question would be....what and who put him there? All owe allegiance to someone or something but his rise seems very, very odd to me.

Add to that all the things against him, or things that should be against him. Very strange indeed.



All the characters in the grand stage play are being used and controlled by the puppeteers from behind the scenes, to fulfill their purpose in the scheme of things: the enthronement of Lucifer in a New World Order.

Both presidential candidates are of the Illuminati bloodlines.
http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/25391

THE ATLANTEAN CONSPIRACY
http://www.wittypedia.com/atlantean-conspi...-conspiracy.pdf

The two-party system is a facade. The president is 'selected', not 'elected'. All of the political hoopla and wasted campaign money is a huge joke on the people. It plays an important role in steering public thought. The controllers at the top allow Illuminati bloodlines full control for the establishment of global governance.

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/kolvenbach.htm

Americans have been distracted by a faux Presidential race for over a year and this will intensify for the next seven months. This exercise makes them believe there is a chance for democratic change. There is not. This should be obvious from the Congressional elections when the public gave the Democrats a mandate to end the Iraq war. What happened? The opposite. Bush sent more troops.

Clearly the Iraq war will end not when the Democrats or anyone says, but when the Illuminati bankers decide it will. It was the same with Vietnam.
http://www.henrymakow.com/obamas_slip_revealed_his_true.html

New World Order Raising Funds for McCain Campaign
http://www.newworldorderinfo.com/new-world...ccain-campaign/

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
Pamela
QUOTE
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
Yes siree!

John Prewett
Obama's Middle East advisers, and who had the upper hand among them, has been an issue of key speculation both in Jerusalem and for the American Jewish community from the early days of the election campaign, when the names of former US national security advisers Brent Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski, men considered by many Israel supporters as unsympathetic to Israel, were bandied about as being among Obama's top advisers.
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Many may know this, some may not.

Brent Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski are connected to
and
at least somewhat subordinate to Henry KISSINGER

Do search engine of: Kissinger Scowcroft Brzezinski
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John Tng (19 Dec 2008) "The US '08 Election prophesied in the Bible!" Dear Doves,
The US '08 Election is historic. It was the first time in U.S. history that an African American
was elected president,
and
the first time a Roman Catholic was elected Vice President.
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Obama best develop eyes in the back of his head

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The First Evidence I first stumbled upon the identity of the AC thanks to Paul Black's discovery, documented in my article, "Is the Man of Sin Revealed?" (see link). Paul was intrigued by a number common to all four 666 scriptures in the Bible. Little did he know this number, 793, is the English standard value (A=1, B=2, ....., J=10, K=20 ....) of Barack Hussein Obama. I must confess this came as a surprise to even me. In all my years of number-crunching, and the doves can testify, I have not once attempted to figure out the identity of the AC. .....................
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A=6, B=12, C=18 ....... KISSINGER = 666


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