diverteach
May 17 2006, 09:11 PM
Robertson: God Told Me Tsunami May Strike U.S. in 2006
Wednesday, May 17, 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195931,00.htmlRobertson has made the predictions at least four times in the past two weeks on his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network, which he founded. Robertson said the revelations about this year's weather came to him during his annual personal prayer retreat in January.
"If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms," Robertson said May 8. Wednesday, he added, "there well may be something as bad as a tsunami in the Pacific Northwest."
Robertson has come under intense criticism in recent months for comments suggesting that American agents should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for Israel's pullout from the Gaza Strip.
PraisingYeshua
May 17 2006, 09:38 PM
QUOTE(diverteach @ May 17 2006, 09:11 PM)
"If I heard the Lord right about 2006..."
Boy, he made sure to cover his tail didn't he??
blindzebra
May 18 2006, 08:43 AM
jack, you made me laugh.
but it did bring to mind, a "MAY BE", in the word of our God....
Please see Zephaniah 2:1-3.
if we repent, if we seek the True God, Yahweh, if we obey his commands, if we seek humility and are meek, if we seek to be honest, if we seek to do what is right, if we seek justice, integrity, and humility before the face of our God, through Christ Jesus,
then, it MAY BE that we shall be hid, concealed, find shelter, refuge, and be protected in the DAY OF YAHWEH'S ANGER.
His Word is alive.
love,
-bz
please also see Isaiah 55:6, 7.
c-los medrano
May 18 2006, 09:02 AM
all we can do is sit back and see.
gregg
May 18 2006, 11:17 AM
In the kingdom of Pat Rebertson, he may be right!
blindzebra
May 18 2006, 11:23 AM
Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired;
Zep 2:2 Before the decree bring forth, [before] the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you.
Zep 2:3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.
Zep 2:4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up.
perhaps, perhaps-- if there is but True Repentance....and not merely lip service.
for there are many that honor him with their lips, yet their hearts are far removed from him. these seek and desire the glory and riches, (in their greed) from men, more so than the glory and riches found in the Christ, Jesus, that only comes from the True God. and Jack you are right, the destruction of men of that sort, it is not slumbering....
Shaun333
May 18 2006, 12:54 PM
Here's the problem with Mr. Robertson aside from the media always using this guy as the torch bearer of Christianity (God help us all). He always, after he says God told him something, either backtracks and changes what he said that God told him, if he gets some heat put on him, and/or also tries to give himself an out by saying things like, "this may be the case", or " If I heard right", etc. Geez!
Here are some "God given" predictions for 2005 from Mr. Pat Robertson. Notice his wording:
Robertson's predictions for 2005:
The economy: "Again, 2005 is going to be a year of extraordinary prosperity for this nation and for CBN [Christian Broadcasting Network]. And I think the American stock market is going to surge upward, if I heard from the Lord. Again, ladies and gentlemen, don't go and buy stock on my recommendation, but that's what I feel in my heart. The Lord was saying it's going to be a super good year."
George W. Bush: "Well, the Lord has some very encouraging news for George Bush ... What I heard is that Bush is now positioned to have victory after victory and that his second term is going to be one of triumph, which is pretty strong stuff. ... He'll have Social Security reform passed. He'll have tax reform passed. He'll have conservative judges on the courts. And that basically he is positioned for a series of dramatic victories which I hope will hearten him and his advisers. They don't have to be timid in this matter because the wind is blowing at his back, and he can move forward boldly and get results."
Muslims and others turning to Jesus Christ: "In America, again if I'm hearing God right, we will see a tremendous incident of miracles in the year 2005. ... God's spirit is going to be moving in dramatic power around the world. And his spirit is going to be touching the hearts of many in the Muslim world and they will be turning to the gospel, to Jesus Christ. I think many of them already are, but this is going to be an acceleration that will really amaze the world. ... 'Revival will break out throughout the Muslim world, my [God's] truth will penetrate their hearts. The hold of that falsehood that has gripped them will be broken.'"
Terrorism and global security: "2005 will be another good year for the world. The terrorist threat will diminish. Nations will walk in peace, but it will be an illusion. The peril to Israel is greater now than it has ever been for she will be seduced into a false peace that will leave her vulnerable."
The Supreme Court: "The vendetta against religion in America is about to end. ... 'I [God] will remove judges from the Supreme Court quickly and their successors will refuse to sanction the attacks on religious faith.'"
Either he really thinks he is hearing from God or he is playing with a magic 8 ball.
blindzebra
May 18 2006, 01:07 PM
W.B. and its FALSE PROFIT.... (spelling intentional)
how ironic.
PraisingYeshua
May 18 2006, 08:21 PM
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ May 18 2006, 12:54 PM)
Either he really thinks he is hearing from God or he is playing with a magic 8 ball.

I wondered where that had gotten off to.
stormdreamer
May 19 2006, 12:01 PM
QUOTE(blindzebra @ May 18 2006, 08:43 AM)
jack, you made me laugh.
but it did bring to mind, a "MAY BE", in the word of our God....
Please see Zephaniah 2:1-3.
if we repent, if we seek the True God, Yahweh, if we obey his commands, if we seek humility and are meek, if we seek to be honest, if we seek to do what is right, if we seek justice, integrity, and humility before the face of our God, through Christ Jesus,
then, it MAY BE that we shall be hid, concealed, find shelter, refuge, and be protected in the DAY OF YAHWEH'S ANGER.
His Word is alive.
love,
-bz
please also see Isaiah 55:6, 7.
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You are so right! The scriptures are full of God's words, saying, "IF", "BUT", and "Then". Specially in the books of the Prophets. God's promises are always true, He promises to bless us and protect us, if, we turn from sin. (2 Chron. 7:13-15), And He promises us that He will remove, or destroy, or curse those who turn from Him and continue to live in Sin. Even Jesus warns of these things. Jesus also mentions , those who love him are those who obey him and live for him.
stormdreamer
May 19 2006, 12:22 PM
QUOTE(diverteach @ May 17 2006, 09:11 PM)
Robertson: God Told Me Tsunami May Strike U.S. in 2006
Wednesday, May 17, 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195931,00.htmlRobertson has made the predictions at least four times in the past two weeks on his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network, which he founded. Robertson said the revelations about this year's weather came to him during his annual personal prayer retreat in January.
"If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms," Robertson said May 8. Wednesday, he added, "there well may be something as bad as a tsunami in the Pacific Northwest."
Robertson has come under intense criticism in recent months for comments suggesting that American agents should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for Israel's pullout from the Gaza Strip.
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It's funny that you mentioned this, I did hear this on the news this morning, I think it was Fox news or Headline news.
The funnier thing is that I had mailed to him before Hurricane Katrina hit last year some of my dreams about the coming storms. (The Lord also gave me a dream where I was warning the leaders of a coming storm and with it would come a Tsunami) I also told him that I had been awakened by angel of the Lord. I heard as clear as day a male voice, he told me one morning that "Storms were coming to awaken The Church, but would deceive Man". I really didn't expect him to respond to my letter with the dreams and I didn't seek a response. ( I was pretty sure he would think I was some kind of nut.

Well, he didn't respond, instead he sent me a letter asking for money for his ministry. I felt sick to my stomache about that, I no longer watch the 700 club nor do I give any donations. His heart seems so hardened lately, he seems so judgemental and overlly critical, and the words that he says at times reflects this. The Holy Spirit gives us wisdom, and He gives us the heart to speak the right words at the right time in the right way. It's one thing for the world not to understand or like what this man says, but when many Christians see the lack of wisdom in what he is saying or the way in which he is saying it, then it is not of the Holy Spirit. It is his words. I do think he does see, to some degree, what is happening in the world, but he is not allowing the Holy Spirit to speak about it, and so when he does, he just opens his mouth and inserts his foot! Instead of seeing or hearing the love of Christ, people are seeing his pride and arrogance. I do think he loves God and that he is a believer of Christ, but like many he is losing his way and his heart is becoming hardened. I think he needs our prayers, so that the Lord can bring about the heart change. For the word, says that it is from our heart that our words come from. What is in our heart affects our mind and thoughts, and yes, our speech.
Shaun333
May 19 2006, 12:28 PM
QUOTE(stormdreamer @ May 19 2006, 01:22 PM)
The funnier thing is that I had mailed to him before Hurricane Katrina hit last year some of my dreams about the coming storms. (The Lord also gave me a dream where I was warning the leaders of a coming storm and with it would come a Tsunami) I also told him that I had been awakened by angel of the Lord. I heard as clear as day a male voice, he told me one morning that "Storms were coming to awaken The Church, but would deceive Man". I really didn't expect him to respond to my letter with the dreams and I didn't seek a response. ( I was pretty sure he would think I was some kind of nut.

Well, he didn't respond, instead he sent me a letter asking for money for his ministry. I felt sick to my stomache...
Well, see now he had your address, so he could sent his money asking letters. It's almost like they ask you to write in with quesions, dreams, or whatever, perhaps never intending to answer them, but instead getting your contact info.
Then they hit you up for cash.
flyingsquirrel
May 19 2006, 04:38 PM
my first reaction, How come God never tells him to shut up?

Like Pat would tell us if he heard that....
stormdreamer
May 19 2006, 05:14 PM
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ May 19 2006, 12:28 PM)
QUOTE(stormdreamer @ May 19 2006, 01:22 PM)
The funnier thing is that I had mailed to him before Hurricane Katrina hit last year some of my dreams about the coming storms. (The Lord also gave me a dream where I was warning the leaders of a coming storm and with it would come a Tsunami) I also told him that I had been awakened by angel of the Lord. I heard as clear as day a male voice, he told me one morning that "Storms were coming to awaken The Church, but would deceive Man". I really didn't expect him to respond to my letter with the dreams and I didn't seek a response. ( I was pretty sure he would think I was some kind of nut.

Well, he didn't respond, instead he sent me a letter asking for money for his ministry. I felt sick to my stomache...
Well, see now he had your address, so he could sent his money asking letters. It's almost like they ask you to write in with quesions, dreams, or whatever, perhaps never intending to answer them, but instead getting your contact info.
Then they hit you up for cash.

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Sadly, this is too true.
Signet
May 19 2006, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(Jack Lavictoire @ May 18 2006, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE(diverteach @ May 17 2006, 09:11 PM)
Robertson: God Told Me Tsunami May Strike U.S. in 2006
"
May"???
What kind of talk is that?
Our God isn’t a God of maybes but of definites.
Changing the channel!
Matthew 8:12
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."I don't see any maybes in there!
What would you think if you read a bible that had it translated like this.
But
"maybe" the subjects of the kingdom will be...
Or better yet,
For God so loved the world that
"Maybe" he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but
"maybe" have eternal life.
What kind of grounds would we have to stand on?
Dear God, how much longer do we have to put up with this nonsense?
Maybe I'm just gonna go to bed!!!

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Hi,
Glad you said it. I saw MAY and went into MAY DAY MAY DAY! Better to say
"I believe that God is showing me something that I don't understand...I
deluge of the Pacific Northwest...spiritual, natural, I don't know... but, MAY"?
Interesting though the time you posted was 9:11 pm.
Blessings,
Signet
Flower Lady
Jun 16 2006, 05:08 PM
see the topic Fathers day. M a y b e Sunday it might happen. Gay parade in Portland. On fathers day!
Maz
Jun 16 2006, 05:33 PM
QUOTE(Flower Lady @ Jun 16 2006, 04:08 PM)
see the topic Fathers day. M a y b e Sunday it might happen. Gay parade in Portland. On fathers day!
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It is not the gay "parade" that angers God. It is gay "pride" which He will condemn. Beyond this, it is not an accurate prophetic voice to suggest God "may" do thus and so. A prophetic voice will have a defined "thus saith the Lord" attached to it. It will then be known that it will most decidedly happen. Until then I add this report to the multitude of those things which have been promulagated as truth of impending judgment. Hello Jack L.
senteami3
Jun 17 2006, 09:48 AM
First, we should write down EACH ONE of his prophecies and see IF 100% of them come true.
If it's not the case, he is just a false prophet, "DECEIVING MANY"!
WhiteKnight
Jun 17 2006, 03:02 PM
QUOTE(diverteach @ May 18 2006, 07:41 AM)
Robertson: God Told Me Tsunami May Strike U.S. in 2006
Wednesday, May 17, 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195931,00.htmlRobertson has made the predictions at least four times in the past two weeks on his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network, which he founded. Robertson said the revelations about this year's weather came to him during his annual personal prayer retreat in January.
"If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms," Robertson said May 8. Wednesday, he added, "there well may be something as bad as a tsunami in the Pacific Northwest."
Robertson has come under intense criticism in recent months for comments suggesting that American agents should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for Israel's pullout from the Gaza Strip.
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Two days i read a book called 101 people who is screwing america by jack.
http://www.buzzflash.com/store/reviews/227. Pat roberston is on the list.
everwatchful
Jun 24 2006, 05:09 AM
LOL, God doesn't put things in uncertain terms. If He said it was going to happen, it would happen, if it wasn't going to happen, I don't know if God would have said, "maybe it might, maybe it might not." Another case of Ezekiel 13.
If it doesn't Robertson is a false prophet.
Miki
Jun 24 2006, 07:07 AM
I'm glad you guys aren't my judge...but maybe you are.
Maybe people will repent and he won't have to bring judgement. The Ninivites did.
God gives these kinds of words to warn. Should he prove himself by smashing us all to death or would you rather repent first and then let him smash you to death to prove himself? Excuse me while l shake my head...
Stephen
Jun 24 2006, 10:54 AM
There are two classifications of authentic prophecy recorded in Scripture.
1.The first is telling the future in advance with 100 % accuracy. The source is the Lord, the receiver and conveyer is the prophet. We know who the Lord is and He always selects the prophet. His selections are already recorded in Scripture, those of the past, and those that will serve Him in the future. There are no others.
2.The second is exhorting what has already been conveyed directly by the Lord Himself or one of His selected prophets recorded in Scripture. Additional believers can have the spiritual gift of repeating, explaining, and teaching authentic prophecy without error, but nothing is ever added to or taken away from the original prophecy.
The Lord's Word is complete as conveyed in the Scriptures of the Bible and this includes all original authentic prophecy and exortation of original authentic prophecy. Exortation of original Biblical prophecy is possible for those who have the spiritual gift of prophecy and the exortation can provide a deeper understanding if the conveyor has the gift which can only be imputed by the Lord's Holy Spirit.
There are only two additional prophets as defined in the first classification above who have not yet appeared on the earth and they are recorded in Scripture. These will be the two witnesses sent to national Israel by the Lord during His hour of trial (judgment). Not to criticise Pat, but he does not fit the description.
Any attempt of telling the future in advance outside of original prophecy and exhortation is subject to error. It might be a feeling that one has, a dream, imagination, intuition, or even a delibrate known deception. If it does not line up exactly with Scriptural prophecy and is outside of the scope of the same, then it is not authentic original prophecy, but only a prediction or speculation. By definition authentic original prophecy is already complete and recorded in Scripture.
Many have engaged in making predictions and speculations, both believers and unbelievers, and most all of them miss the mark. This activity is not prophecy as defined by Biblical standards. Truth is always present in original authentic prophecy and Holy Spirit directed exhortation. This is not normally, if ever, the case with predictions and speculations. The believer should always note the difference, both the conveyor and those who hear.
The Lord has givin us what He wants us to know from beginning to end in His Word. This is more than sufficient for us. There are also things that He has not told us and we should be willing to trust His selections. There is much warning about false prophecy and false teaching (exhortation) and the believer would do best by adhering to the Biblical standards.
The main difficulty with treating predictions and speculations as prophetic is the effect that this behavior can have on the believer's faith if what is conveyed turns out to be false. Some are very sensitive to this type of failure. The same can also discount the Lord's Word in the mind of the unbeliever who needs to be saved. Christian leaders particularly are accountible for what they say in public and they need to aviod the temptation of grandstanding what they want others to think they know.
Miki
Jun 24 2006, 12:49 PM
Pat may be wrong about making perdictions but there is no error in the fact that God at times changes his mind. We know this from Jonah.
Pat may have a word of knowledge about something...I don't remember the entire context of his message. If l remember correctly his gifting is the word of knowledge...Don't think he's ever called himself a prophet.
You are right Stephen, about people being very sensitive about these kinds of things. However sometimes people are looking for a good excuse to brush God off. If they can blame a Christian all the better.
Or.....Sometimes people exhault themselves by finding fault in a brother.
I agree. God sometimes postpones the prophecy like with Jonah, when there is repentance. Jonah's prophecy actually came true later after God used the guys from Nineveh, to persecute and put the people of God through tribulation. After that, He destroyed them. We should learn from this.
God is postponing some prophecies on the destruction of America, because she has to first persecute the saints during the tribulation, but the prophecies stand, they will happen....just not yet....
karen vaughn
Jun 24 2006, 09:31 PM
Pat works in the gift of Knowledge. Every first of the year he goes away to fast and pray and listen. What he said was "I feel that the Lord impressed upon me that there would be a lot of devistation in the US, storms, hurricanes, earthquakes etc." He did say he was not saying thus saith the Lord.
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