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c-los medrano
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM. smile.gif
Shaun333
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:13 PM)
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM.  smile.gif
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You're way off base on this topic, I'm sending you a PM right now. tongue.gif (no, I'm kidding)

Actually, good questions.


As far as questioning a doctrine that is not bible based, if someone puts this view up for all to see on a thread, I believe it is a Christian's duty to combat that on the same thread for all to see.
I would think that if you are involved in a topic and you ask that person specific questions about why they believe that way, and they don't answer you, THEN you PM them, in my view. If they refuse to PM you back, then call them out on the topic, if that view is, for example, not Bible based or harming or confusing, such as the eternal torment thread in the Controversial Debates section.

Sometimes people refuse to see what is right in front of them (this includes Christians), and you eventually have to take a step back and leave them to their own opinions on the matter. You can't force anything on anyone if they simply refuse to acknowledge it.

Marta
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:43 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:13 PM)
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM.  smile.gif
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You're way off base on this topic, I'm sending you a PM right now. tongue.gif (no, I'm kidding)

Actually, good questions.


As far as questioning a doctrine that is not bible based, if someone puts this view up for all to see on a thread, I believe it is a Christian's duty to combat that on the same thread for all to see.
I would think that if you are involved in a topic and you ask that person specific questions about why they believe that way, and they don't answer you, THEN you PM them, in my view. If they refuse to PM you back, then call them out on the topic, if that view is, for example, not Bible based or harming or confusing, such as the eternal torment thread in the Controversial Debates section.

Sometimes people refuse to see what is right in front of them (this includes Christians), and you eventually have to take a step back and leave them to their own opinions on the matter. You can't force anything on anyone if they simply refuse to acknowledge it.
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I agree with Shaun. If you believe it is not scriptural then say so...speak up..no harm done especially if it is in the debating section. Ask them if they could back it up with the scriptures that lead them to believe in a particular way. That would help see their point of view as well. It helps to know their religious background and how they were raised too.

Good luck and never stand down from the Word of God or what you believe is not right. If you think it is wrong and unscriptural; then don't hesitate to call them out on it.

Where is that armour?

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c-los medrano
QUOTE(Marta @ Apr 27 2006, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:43 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:13 PM)
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM.  smile.gif
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You're way off base on this topic, I'm sending you a PM right now. tongue.gif (no, I'm kidding)

Actually, good questions.


As far as questioning a doctrine that is not bible based, if someone puts this view up for all to see on a thread, I believe it is a Christian's duty to combat that on the same thread for all to see.
I would think that if you are involved in a topic and you ask that person specific questions about why they believe that way, and they don't answer you, THEN you PM them, in my view. If they refuse to PM you back, then call them out on the topic, if that view is, for example, not Bible based or harming or confusing, such as the eternal torment thread in the Controversial Debates section.

Sometimes people refuse to see what is right in front of them (this includes Christians), and you eventually have to take a step back and leave them to their own opinions on the matter. You can't force anything on anyone if they simply refuse to acknowledge it.
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I agree with Shaun. If you believe it is not scriptural then say so...speak up..no harm done especially if it is in the debating section. Ask them if they could back it up with the scriptures that lead them to believe in a particular way. That would help see their point of view as well. It helps to know their religious background and how they were raised too.

Good luck and never stand down from the Word of God or what you believe is not right. If you think it is wrong and unscriptural; then don't hesitate to call them out on it.

Where is that armour?

biggrin.gif
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oh and i won't stand down on the word but it's for topics that have no scriptural support. for example if I said...."my angle follows me where ever i go and writes down the things i do."
kinda harmless but not scripturally true.

should i even bother if the person really felt that that was true?

oh and im not picking on someone in particular. just curious on what everyone thinks about confronting another on "light" matters.
Shaun333
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 05:18 PM)


oh and i won't stand down on the word but it's for topics that have no scriptural support. for example if I said...."my angel follows me where ever i go and writes down the things i do."
kinda harmless but not scripturally true.

should i even bother if the person really felt that that was true?



In that specific case, I would personally recommend a good drug rehab clinic. blink.gif



...By the way, my angel's name is Mcdougal and he is very sarcastic. wink.gif
Pamela
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE(Marta @ Apr 27 2006, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:43 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:13 PM)
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM.  smile.gif
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Hey C-los what about ministering angels spoken of in the bible...Are you not aware of them...I don't know if they follow us around everywhere we go, but we do have ministering angels assigned to us....Heb.1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits SENT to serve those WHO WILL inherit salvation.....

Would this be what they mean?


You're way off base on this topic, I'm sending you a PM right now. tongue.gif (no, I'm kidding)

Actually, good questions.


As far as questioning a doctrine that is not bible based, if someone puts this view up for all to see on a thread, I believe it is a Christian's duty to combat that on the same thread for all to see.
I would think that if you are involved in a topic and you ask that person specific questions about why they believe that way, and they don't answer you, THEN you PM them, in my view. If they refuse to PM you back, then call them out on the topic, if that view is, for example, not Bible based or harming or confusing, such as the eternal torment thread in the Controversial Debates section.

Sometimes people refuse to see what is right in front of them (this includes Christians), and you eventually have to take a step back and leave them to their own opinions on the matter. You can't force anything on anyone if they simply refuse to acknowledge it.
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I agree with Shaun. If you believe it is not scriptural then say so...speak up..no harm done especially if it is in the debating section. Ask them if they could back it up with the scriptures that lead them to believe in a particular way. That would help see their point of view as well. It helps to know their religious background and how they were raised too.

Good luck and never stand down from the Word of God or what you believe is not right. If you think it is wrong and unscriptural; then don't hesitate to call them out on it.

Where is that armour?

biggrin.gif
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oh and i won't stand down on the word but it's for topics that have no scriptural support. for example if I said...."my angle follows me where ever i go and writes down the things i do."
kinda harmless but not scripturally true.

should i even bother if the person really felt that that was true?

oh and im not picking on someone in particular. just curious on what everyone thinks about confronting another on "light" matters.
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That was strange...I posted and it didn't show up...So I am back to edit it in....

C-los maybe that person is referring to the ministering angels that are sent to all those that will inherit salvation. Heb. 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inheirt salvation?

I re-read the posts and I see my original post in Marta's reply...How that happened who knows....That was a big OOOPS!
Marta
QUOTE(Pamela @ Apr 27 2006, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE(Marta @ Apr 27 2006, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:43 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:13 PM)
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM.  smile.gif
[right][snapback]57406[/snapback][/right]
Hey C-los what about ministering angels spoken of in the bible...Are you not aware of them...I don't know if they follow us around everywhere we go, but we do have ministering angels assigned to us....Heb.1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits SENT to serve those WHO WILL inherit salvation.....

Would this be what they mean?


You're way off base on this topic, I'm sending you a PM right now. tongue.gif (no, I'm kidding)

Actually, good questions.


As far as questioning a doctrine that is not bible based, if someone puts this view up for all to see on a thread, I believe it is a Christian's duty to combat that on the same thread for all to see.
I would think that if you are involved in a topic and you ask that person specific questions about why they believe that way, and they don't answer you, THEN you PM them, in my view. If they refuse to PM you back, then call them out on the topic, if that view is, for example, not Bible based or harming or confusing, such as the eternal torment thread in the Controversial Debates section.

Sometimes people refuse to see what is right in front of them (this includes Christians), and you eventually have to take a step back and leave them to their own opinions on the matter. You can't force anything on anyone if they simply refuse to acknowledge it.
[right][snapback]57416[/snapback][/right]


I agree with Shaun. If you believe it is not scriptural then say so...speak up..no harm done especially if it is in the debating section. Ask them if they could back it up with the scriptures that lead them to believe in a particular way. That would help see their point of view as well. It helps to know their religious background and how they were raised too.

Good luck and never stand down from the Word of God or what you believe is not right. If you think it is wrong and unscriptural; then don't hesitate to call them out on it.

Where is that armour?

biggrin.gif
[right][snapback]57419[/snapback][/right]


oh and i won't stand down on the word but it's for topics that have no scriptural support. for example if I said...."my angle follows me where ever i go and writes down the things i do."
kinda harmless but not scripturally true.

should i even bother if the person really felt that that was true?

oh and im not picking on someone in particular. just curious on what everyone thinks about confronting another on "light" matters.
[right][snapback]57431[/snapback][/right]
That was strange...I posted and it didn't show up...So I am back to edit it in....

C-los maybe that person is referring to the ministering angels that are sent to all those that will inherit salvation. Heb. 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inheirt salvation?

I re-read the posts and I see my original post in Marta's reply...How that happened who knows....That was a big OOOPS!
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Oh I know Pamela...you secretly wish you were me right?

Pamela
QUOTE(Marta @ Apr 27 2006, 05:19 PM)
QUOTE(Pamela @ Apr 27 2006, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE(Marta @ Apr 27 2006, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:43 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 27 2006, 04:13 PM)
i understand that some people here are not going to think along the same lines as me or perhaps each other on certain topics.
But what if some one you knew here could be way off base in a subject.
would you ask politely why they believe that?

what if some one believes something that has no scriptural support but doesn't harm anyone?
would you question it?

when do you question? or do you?


if some one thought i was way off base on something...i would appreciate a PM.  smile.gif
[right][snapback]57406[/snapback][/right]
Hey C-los what about ministering angels spoken of in the bible...Are you not aware of them...I don't know if they follow us around everywhere we go, but we do have ministering angels assigned to us....Heb.1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits SENT to serve those WHO WILL inherit salvation.....

Would this be what they mean?


You're way off base on this topic, I'm sending you a PM right now. tongue.gif (no, I'm kidding)

Actually, good questions.


As far as questioning a doctrine that is not bible based, if someone puts this view up for all to see on a thread, I believe it is a Christian's duty to combat that on the same thread for all to see.
I would think that if you are involved in a topic and you ask that person specific questions about why they believe that way, and they don't answer you, THEN you PM them, in my view. If they refuse to PM you back, then call them out on the topic, if that view is, for example, not Bible based or harming or confusing, such as the eternal torment thread in the Controversial Debates section.

Sometimes people refuse to see what is right in front of them (this includes Christians), and you eventually have to take a step back and leave them to their own opinions on the matter. You can't force anything on anyone if they simply refuse to acknowledge it.
[right][snapback]57416[/snapback][/right]


I agree with Shaun. If you believe it is not scriptural then say so...speak up..no harm done especially if it is in the debating section. Ask them if they could back it up with the scriptures that lead them to believe in a particular way. That would help see their point of view as well. It helps to know their religious background and how they were raised too.

Good luck and never stand down from the Word of God or what you believe is not right. If you think it is wrong and unscriptural; then don't hesitate to call them out on it.

Where is that armour?

biggrin.gif
[right][snapback]57419[/snapback][/right]


oh and i won't stand down on the word but it's for topics that have no scriptural support. for example if I said...."my angle follows me where ever i go and writes down the things i do."
kinda harmless but not scripturally true.

should i even bother if the person really felt that that was true?

oh and im not picking on someone in particular. just curious on what everyone thinks about confronting another on "light" matters.
[right][snapback]57431[/snapback][/right]
That was strange...I posted and it didn't show up...So I am back to edit it in....

C-los maybe that person is referring to the ministering angels that are sent to all those that will inherit salvation. Heb. 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inheirt salvation?

I re-read the posts and I see my original post in Marta's reply...How that happened who knows....That was a big OOOPS!
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Oh I know Pamela...you secretly wish you were me right?
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OH, that's it Marta!!! You found me out....LOL!!!! No these tags and quote things need to be fixed like pronto!!!!!!
Marta
HAAAAA! I hear ya Pam!

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c-los medrano
i was just making up a topic to give my point about the angels. lol
Pamela
Missed that! LOL! It has been a day that is for sure....
PraisingYeshua
Being as I am NOT a shy person, I have no issue with questioning somebody. Of course, tact and diplomacy are key, but if someone has differing beliefs than I, or if they are just rather far out there, I will ask them why they believe XYZ. The "worst" that happens, is I become more educated on it...and usually, more often than not, they are left searching why I believe such and such a way...and that's always a good thing.
Frek
If I may, I'll throw in my little bit of life experience.

I've found that there is a very fine line when to step in and argue a point and when not to. I believe many of the sayings in Proverbs convey this as well. (I'm too lazy to go look any up right now though).

While it is a Christian's duty to always have an answer ready as to why we have the hope we do, we also should abstain from pointless arguments. Personally this has been a huge issue in my life as I absolutely love to argue and debate. I've learned the hard way several times in my life that on occasion sometimes it is better to just let the other person have their view and leave it at that. Even when you know that you know that you know that they are wrong. This is especially true when you have observed that a person is intentionally setting out to cause trouble.

Now to be clear I'm not talking about defending the core beliefs. We should always defend the more important doctrines. However, even at that I often find myself reminding myself that it's not our job to argue anyone into the kingdom. We are sowers of the Word. It's God who makes the seed grow, not us. Mistakes happen when we suppose that we can do a better job than the Holy Spirit.

So I guess what I'm saying is that it takes wisdom to know when to make your point and leave it at that, or when to actually debate and argue.
End-Time Calling
That is what this forum is all about. If there is something written on this forum, then it will be examined by many scriptualy sound minds. There will be those whom agree and those that don't. But this is a forum for people to learn to grow with other christians knowledge of the word. Many here are highly educated in many different parts of the word. Let the knowledge stick like glue and enjoy the working of the Spirit in the most random of places. An internet web site!
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