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Messiahiscoming
Hey all you Bible number scholars, I was just wondering is
there any significace in the number 42?

Your Friend In Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
Signet
Hi,

42 is 3 1/2 years. Tribulation.Revelation 13, Matt. 24:21, and I went to Isaiah 42, and it is awesome..."Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgement to the Gentiles...read the whole chapter. Some time ago I had made a notation on this page Is 42...Keep your eyes upon Jesus and I heard "open the book". ? So, I do...I think we are that
close...

How were you impressed with this number today? I am interested!

Signet
onetiggerroo
Val this is from Shekel's Bible Numbers website....


QUOTE
1240 days: Moreover, a strict "42 months" of the lunar cal. amounts to only 1240 days: (I.e., "42 months" is 3˝ years without its leap months; 3.5 x 12 = 42.){14}

"…They will trample on the holy city for 42 months" (Revelation 11:2).

g.) 1278 days: Correspondingly, "42 months" of our modern solar calendar amounts to 3˝ solar years, or 1278 days.

"The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 months" (Revelation 13:5).


http://www.1260-1290-days-bible-prophecy.o...mbers-ch-2d.htm



Just a thought, and I don't know how correct I am, because I do not study the Bible numbers as some do....

6 X 7 = 42

To me this is also consistant with the battle between the ac and GOD.

6 being the number of a man, and 7 being the number of Completion with GOD.

How this fits into the prophecy, I am not clear on. Maybe Shekel can give you more insight. wub.gif blush.gif
Messiahiscoming
Thanks guys for your insight! Right now I have chills from head to toe!
Tig the scripture that you shared was one the Lord gave me. Signet the passage in Isaiah was another one. That is wild! (Not really just the Lord I know!)


Signet to answer your question, I had a very restless night. It seemed that I woke up every hour. When I did I was overwhelmed by different thoughts.
1st let me back to what has transpired over the past few days. To start off with I had done some research this week on the Crown Prince El Hassan Talal of Jordan. I had watched a video from the International Prophecy Convention. Joe Van Koering claimed that He was possibly the Anti-Chrit. (Now I am not saying He is the A/C) But what was interesting was he was the 42 descandant from Mohammad. So that has been on my mind for a few days.

Then a friend called yesterday we were talking about the "Times of the Gentiles"
being fulfilled. I had brought up the verse to her in :

Rev. 11:1 & 2 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the Court which is without the temple leave out. and measure it not. for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot FORTY TWO months.


Then last night I was doing some research of Clinton and stumbled across that he was the 42 president.

Now back to my sleepless night: I did not connect all these "42"
until then. It was as if everytime I rolled over and woke up the Lord would point out one of these.

1st it was Bill Clinton 42 president then the next hour I woke up it was the Prince Hassan and him being 42 descedant of Mohammad. Then 42 months shall they tread the Holy City.

Then He laid Daniel Chapter 8 and Chapter 11 on my heart.

Then tonight I was seeking the Lord and He told me to Look up Gen :42
Its when the famine was taking place and Jacob sent his sons to Egypt to buy corn

Next the Lord lead me to Isaiah 42 Wow! Signet I was overwhelmed just like I sensed from you, about this passage.

Then He lead me to 3 other passages one was Psalms 42

You need to read the whole passage about David's heart longing for the Lord just as a deer panteth after the water. He goes on the say at the end of the chapter that he was depressed because of the oppression of the enemy. David says my enemies reproach me; while they say Daily WHERE IS YOUR GOD?

Next it was Psalms 106:42: Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjuection under their hand

This is the last verse:

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come!

By the way the order I put the sripture was the order the Lord gave them to me.

So I have been a little troubled all day! When I finally woke up this morning I went outside to get my Bible. I had left it in the car from last night at Church. While I was out there I had a very odd feeling come over me. I posted this somewhere else today as well. But I have only had these STONG strange feelings a handful of times in my life. One time it was when we experiened the May 3rd Tornado (the largest tornado ever) that hit just a few blocks from our house.
Another time was when Katrina hit.


I just came in from spending some quaility time with the Lord outside. The setting was beautiful. It was if Isaiah 42 was happening! Sing unto the Lord a new song; and praise from the end of the earth....... let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice.....Let the inhabitants of the rock sing. let them shout from the top of the mountains.

This is what I experienced! I had some praise music going I was praising the Lord,
I looked and the wind was blowing the trees ( they were clapping their hands) for the Father. In the distant sky I could see the Lightening it was dancing for the Lord! The crickets were singing and I was just in AWE OF MY LORD!

I am not sure what all of this means but I know it is from the Lord. May He open our eyes to behold the TRUTH!

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
onetiggerroo
Matthew 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham unto David are fourteen generations; and from David unto the carrying away to Babylon fourteen generations; and from the carrying away to Babylon unto the Christ fourteen generations.

Count the generations...

14+14+14=42
Messiahiscoming
Wow! Thanks for that Tig. I knew that I should put this out there the Lord has used you to show me so much more. Man my mind is swimming!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming
Miki
Wow you guys...this is even making me shout. Val! I know just what you are talking about as God goes from thing to thing to thing...

It's close that's why. Communication is about to come to an end. He wants people to remember and draw hope from these words brought to rememberance in times of need.

God is truely awesone. You made me experiance those moments with you. blush.gif
Roxygal
Wow Valerie... that was beautiful! As Miki said, I felt like I was right there with you.

May the Lord further reveal His plans for you Val!!!

Love you!
Lisa
Orates
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 24 2006, 07:17 PM)
Hey all you Bible number scholars, I was just wondering is
there any significace in the number 42?

Your Friend In Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
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It is funny you mentioned the number 42. I just saw a movie- The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Universe, and that was the answer to "The Utimate Question".

This is from blog on the subject...

The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything

The Answer to The Ultimate Question Of Life, the Universe and Everything is a concept taken from Douglas Adams' science fiction series The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. In the story, the Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is sought using the supercomputer Deep Thought. The answer given by Deep Thought leads the protagonists on a quest to discover the question which provides this answer.

Story line:
The Ultimate Answer
According to the Hitchhiker's Guide, researchers from a pan-dimensional, hyper-intelligent race of beings, construct Deep Thought, the second greatest computer of all time and space, to calculate the Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything. After seven and a half million years of pondering the question, Deep Thought provides the answer: "forty-two."

"Forty-two!" yelled Loonquawl. "Is that all you've got to show for seven and a half million years' work?"
"I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is."

The search for the Ultimate Question

The Ultimate AnswerDeep Thought informs the researchers that it will design a second and greater computer, incorporating living beings as part of its computational matrix, to tell them what the question is. That computer was called Earth and was so big that it was often mistaken for a planet. The researchers themselves took the form of mice to run the program. The question was lost five minutes before it was due to be produced, due to the Vogons' demolition of the Earth, supposedly to build a hyperspace bypass. Later in the series, it is revealed that the Vogons had been hired to destroy the Earth by a consortium of philosophers and psychiatrists who feared for the loss of their jobs when the meaning of life became common knowledge.


I think the number 42 in your dream might mean that you have the answer to the Utlimate Question that the world, including all the philosophers, could not discover.

If you take the sequence A=6. B=12, etc. G=42. G is the first letter of God and I think that the answer has to do with Him. If someone were to ask you, What is the Ultimate Question? How would you answer them?- I am very curious about what you would say!
Messiahiscoming
Miki and Lisa,

Thank you so much for your kind words. My experience last night was not of this world! I truly know what it means when the scripture says if we do not praise the Lord the Rocks will cry out!

This is what I experienced last night:All of God's creation like an orchastra playing its song to the LORD!


Miki's Quote

It's close that's why. Communication is about to come to an end. He wants people to remember and draw hope from these words brought to rememberance in times of need.

We need to take it all in. The Lord is pouring himself on us we all just need to absorb it!

Love you guys if anything happens where we cannot talk soon be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

I love you guys,
Valerie

MMessiahiscoming
Messiahiscoming
Orates,

Wow that is crazy! I have never heard any of this before. That is so wild!
Is this a old movie or something that just came out recently?

I do not have a whole lot of time cause I am at work, but to answer your question
to me concerning what I thought the Ultimate question would be:

Do you know Jehovah God?

Thank you so much for sharing this with us. By the way why did you choose your screen name? Just curious.

See ya,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
Adonaicole
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 25 2006, 09:20 AM)
Miki and Lisa,

Thank you so much for your kind words.  My experience last night was not of this world!  I truly know what it means when the scripture says if we do not praise the Lord the Rocks will cry out!

This is what I experienced last night:All of God's creation like an orchastra playing its song to the LORD!


Miki's Quote

It's close that's why. Communication is about to come to an end. He wants people to remember and draw hope from these words brought to rememberance in times of need.

We need to take it all in.  The Lord is pouring himself on us we all just need to absorb it!

Love you guys if anything happens where we cannot talk soon be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

I love you guys,
Valerie

MMessiahiscoming
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It is truly amazing what God is doing, right now as we speak. I was out in the garden this morning watering some plants and the birds were all singing and I thought, "that's the most beautiful orchestra I ever heard". I agree with what Val says, "I love all of you" and if something happens that we can't communicate, be confident in God's love and the power of his might, be shining lights in the darkness.

Love Always,

Don
Roxygal
I don't know where I posted this before, so sorry for the double story here...

Sometimes It gets near to impossible to be alone with the Lord because of my 3 little ones... Sometimes when my husband isn't working out of town, I'll step outside to catch some fresh air in the middle of the night and talk with the Lord. A couple nights ago I was out there and I heard the most magnificent song from secadas (sp?) and it sounded like they were harmonizing. It was absolutley breathtaking...it was angelic! I stood there in complete awe at the Lord's beautiful creation that he allowed me to witness that night. I've gone out there every night since... but no song... I feel very blessed.

When communication goes down, please know that I love you all and that I will always pray for you! And then... we'll see eachother again!

I love you all!!!
Lisa
Messiahiscoming
Lisa isn't the Lord just awesome! Just think He is our Daddy, and one day
we are going to spend eternity with Him! How exciting is that. I do know what
you mean about not getting a whole lot of alone time with the Lord. If your little ones are anything like mine they want to follow me to the Potty! biggrin.gif
You gotta love em. But when we do get those special moments they are
Heavenly. Thanks for sharing your God moments with us.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming
Orates
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 25 2006, 12:28 PM)
Orates,

Wow that is crazy!  I have never heard any of this before.  That is so wild!
Is this a old movie or something that just came out recently? 

I do not have a whole lot of time cause I am at work, but to answer your question
to me concerning what I thought the Ultimate question would be:

Do you know Jehovah God?

Thank you so much for sharing this with us.  By the way why did you choose your screen name?  Just curious. 

See ya,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
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I am glad you found the link interesting- The SF movie is wild, but worth a watch. I think it came out last fall and is on DVD.

I agree that your Question is the Ultimate Question that philosophers have been searching for centuries, but I am curious about how you define "Jehovah God"?That would be the key to answering it- the term has been misunderstood by Jehovah Witnesses, Jews, and others throughout the centuries.

P.S. My screen name is just an anagram of my last name.

Orates
Messiahiscoming
Orates Quote:


I agree that your Question is the Ultimate Question that philosophers have been searching for centuries, but I am curious about how you define "Jehovah God"?That would be the key to answering it- the term has been misunderstood by Jehovah Witnesses, Jews, and others throughout the centuries.

I should have clarified that a little better:

Do you know Jesus the Christ God in the Flesh?

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
Signet
Hi Val,

I am so glad how you shared your experience and the step by step
guidance of the Holy Spirit...and I am blessed and truly amazed at the
love I feel right now...I often dream in numbers, and symbols, and
sometimes in Hebrew...I have to seek out and mine for answers and
allow myself to move with the Holy Spirit where I get confirmation,
for out of the mouths of 2 or 3 all things will be confirmed...we are
hearing and being confirmed in what time it is...yes? Evenso, we
have a beautful juxtaposition with such loving Scripture as Psalm 42.
I used to sing that all the time...for it is our spirit panting after the Lord,
searching, seeking and following after him for the wellsprings, and
healing waters of the Word. I am glad you had that special time...
and continue to press in ...praise the Lamb of God...

Great stuff from the inquiry on 42...I love the answer is 42. So what
is the question? Do you know Jesus? Precious. And 4+2 = 6.

In Hebrew the number 6 is the same as the letter VAV. VAV is one
of the letters in the YOD_HEY_VAV_HEY name of God in the Hebrew.
Whats interesting is that the #6, as vav means connection, the letter
is a connector, the number also represents the number of Kadosh,
Kadosh, Kadosh...Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty. I do not
know more about this, however, someone else may clarify. You will find
this in Isaiah 6."...I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory...please read it...it will also be a confirmation...the
last sentence I never saw before until right now, even though I have read this many times. "...so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof".

You go girl!
Signet
Messiahiscoming
Signet thank you! What inspiring words you have spoken! I am so glad you brought up the VAV! I am so glad you made that connection.

Signet Quote:

Hi Val,

I am so glad how you shared your experience and the step by step
guidance of the Holy Spirit...and I am blessed and truly amazed at the
love I feel right now...I often dream in numbers, and symbols, and
sometimes in Hebrew...I have to seek out and mine for answers and
allow myself to move with the Holy Spirit where I get confirmation,
for out of the mouths of 2 or 3 all things will be confirmed...we are
hearing and being confirmed in what time it is...yes


Signet,
This is exactly why I just asked the question, when I started this topic. I wanted some confirmation from others. I did not want to put an idea or thought in someones head, until I heard from them!

Thank You so much,

I am going to go Read Isaiah chapter 6 right now!

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
Signet
Dear Val,

I went back and read PSALM 42 again! Outloud! And I saw something
I needed to see...42:10,11" As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me: while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God".
Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquited within me" hope thou in God; for I shall yet praise him, who is the HEALTH OF
MY COUNTENANCE, and my God.

I have prayed for a scripture to understand a condition that I have
concerning my bones...I know what it is not...but this shows me what
it is...spiritual welfare...and a Word to stand on concerning the attacks
of the enemy on mind, body, emotions, spirit...this is huge...it is from the attacks of the enemy...my bones feel as if someone is running a steel pole down them and like standing on bones that are crushed, when it come its like a shower of icy water that goes over me. This oppression has been trying to stop my intercession and I have
to call out to God to give me back the hope that expects, and the
faith and love that anchors me. I have asked "Why have you forgotten
me"? And even then I know that He is with me...but this pain...
Well, praise God. I will overcome, pain or no pain... Now I know.

Thank you, sister.
Signet


Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(Signet @ Apr 25 2006, 09:27 PM)
Dear Val,

I went back and read PSALM 42 again! Outloud! And I saw something
I needed to see...42:10,11" As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me: while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God".
Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquited within me" hope thou in God; for I shall yet praise him, who is the HEALTH OF
MY COUNTENANCE, and my God.

I have prayed for a scripture to understand a condition that I have
concerning my bones...I know what it is not...but this shows me what
it is...spiritual welfare...and a Word to stand on concerning the attacks
of the enemy on mind, body, emotions, spirit...this is huge...it is from the  attacks of the enemy...my bones feel as if someone is running a steel pole down them and like standing on bones that are crushed, when it come its like a shower of icy water that goes over me.  This oppression has been trying to stop my intercession and I have
to call out to God to give me back the hope that expects, and the
faith and love that anchors me.  I have asked "Why have you forgotten
me"? And even then I know that He is with me...but this pain...
Well, praise God.  I will overcome, pain or no pain... Now I know.

Thank you, sister.
Signet
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Signet,

I just read your post! Oh I am so glad the Lord Opened this up to you! The Lord says that His spirit will lead us into ALL Truth! Praise the Lord He has shown this to you!

WOW! I have just made a connection as well! Remember when I posted all of the things the Lord had given me. Well one of them was Daniel chapter 8.

Daniel receives the vision of the ram and the goat. After Daniel had been given the vision and sought the meaning, God sent Gabriel to Him. He gave him the interpretation of the vision and then in Daniel 8:27

And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certian days; afterward I rose up and is the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision. but none understood it.

The morning I woke up after the sleepless night; This is the 1st passage I read. This verse really stood out to me! I pondered the very same thing you are talking about. That this must have been some intensive spiritual warfare going on. Think about it God is giving a MAJOR prophecy concerning the End and BOOM he falls extremely ill.

I have contimplated this before and remember many times this happens to Daniel.

The same thing happens in chapter 7 after a great vision of the End verse 28 says:Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

Finally in Chapter 10 Daniel seeks the Lord and has fasted 3 weeks.
He was seeking the Lord, but did not get the understanding of his people for 3 weeks. Daniel encounters a certain man clothed in linen. He approaches Daniel and tells him

Daniel 10:11-15

11And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.

12Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.

13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

14Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

15And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.


There was such a major Spritual War going on that it literally took 21 days to reach Daniel.

I think you have come to a right conclusion reqarding sickness and warfare. I think it is very real and certainly happens!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming
Adonaicole
QUOTE(Signet @ Apr 25 2006, 07:27 PM)
Dear Val,

I went back and read PSALM 42 again! Outloud! And I saw something
I needed to see...42:10,11" As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me: while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God".
Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquited within me" hope thou in God; for I shall yet praise him, who is the HEALTH OF
MY COUNTENANCE, and my God.

I have prayed for a scripture to understand a condition that I have
concerning my bones...I know what it is not...but this shows me what
it is...spiritual welfare...and a Word to stand on concerning the attacks
of the enemy on mind, body, emotions, spirit...this is huge...it is from the  attacks of the enemy...my bones feel as if someone is running a steel pole down them and like standing on bones that are crushed, when it come its like a shower of icy water that goes over me.  This oppression has been trying to stop my intercession and I have
to call out to God to give me back the hope that expects, and the
faith and love that anchors me.  I have asked "Why have you forgotten
me"? And even then I know that He is with me...but this pain...
Well, praise God.  I will overcome, pain or no pain... Now I know.

Thank you, sister.
Signet
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Dear Signet,

Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I know this applies directly to me because I've been suffering from back pain for 24 years and trying to understand why. It's kind of a funny thing, it doesn't inhibit me in any way (it's not my lower back) and it is nothing that Doctors or Naturopaths or Chiropractors can do anything about, they all say the same thing, we can't do anything to help you. Of course the doctors offer pain medication but I'm not going there, it's a mostly bearable pain. God is the only one that can help me and he wants me to learn to turn to him for help, I've turned to him for other people but not for myself, not wanting to be selfish. I know that God wants me to be a spiritual warrior and claim victory in his name, relying on his strength. I claim victory today! Thank you so much for sharing this. May God bless you as much as you have blessed me.

Your brother in Christ,

Don
~veronique~
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 25 2006, 12:58 AM)
Thanks guys for your insight!  Right now I have chills from head to toe!
Tig the scripture that you shared was one the Lord gave me.  Signet the passage in Isaiah was another one.  That is wild!  (Not really just the Lord I know!)


Signet to answer your question, I had a very restless night.  It seemed that I woke up every hour.  When I did I was overwhelmed by different thoughts.
1st let me back to what has transpired over the past few days. To start off with I had done some research this week on the Crown Prince El Hassan Talal of Jordan.  I had watched a video from the International Prophecy Convention.  Joe Van Koering claimed that He was possibly the Anti-Chrit.  (Now I am not saying He is the A/C)  But what was interesting was he was the 42 descandant from Mohammad.  So that has been on my mind for a few days.

Then a friend called yesterday we were talking about the "Times of the Gentiles"
being fulfilled.  I had brought up the verse to her in :

Rev. 11:1 & 2  And  there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.  But the Court which is without the temple leave out. and measure it not. for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot FORTY TWO months.


Then last night I was doing some research of Clinton and stumbled across that he was the 42 president.

Now back to my sleepless night:  I did not connect all these "42"
until then.  It was as if everytime I rolled over and woke up the Lord would point out one of these.

1st it was Bill Clinton 42 president then the next hour I woke up it was the Prince Hassan and him being 42 descedant of Mohammad.  Then 42 months shall they tread the Holy City. 

Then He laid Daniel Chapter 8 and Chapter 11 on my heart.

Then tonight I was seeking the Lord and He told me to Look up Gen :42
Its when the famine was taking place and Jacob sent his sons to Egypt to buy corn

Next the Lord lead me to Isaiah 42 Wow! Signet I was overwhelmed just like I sensed from you, about this passage.

Then He lead me to 3 other passages one was Psalms 42

You need to read the whole passage about David's heart longing for the Lord just as a deer panteth  after the water.  He goes on the say at the end of the chapter that he was depressed because of the oppression of the enemy.  David says my enemies reproach me; while they say Daily WHERE IS YOUR GOD?

Next it was Psalms 106:42: Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjuection under their hand

This is the last verse:

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come!

By the way the order I put the sripture was the order the Lord gave them to me.

So I have been a little troubled all day!  When I finally woke up this morning I went outside to get my Bible.  I had left it in the car from last night at Church. While I was out there I had a very odd feeling come over me.  I posted this somewhere else today as well.  But I have only had these STONG strange feelings a handful of times in my life.  One time it was when we experiened the May 3rd Tornado (the largest tornado ever) that hit just a few blocks from our house.
Another time was when Katrina hit. 

 
I just came in from spending some quaility time with the Lord outside.  The setting was beautiful.  It was if Isaiah 42 was happening!  Sing unto the Lord a new song; and praise from the end of the earth.......  let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice.....Let the inhabitants of the rock sing.  let them shout from the top of the mountains.

This is what I experienced!  I had some praise music going I was praising the Lord,
I looked and the wind was blowing the trees ( they were clapping their hands) for the Father.  In the distant sky I could see the Lightening it was dancing for the Lord!  The crickets were singing and I was just in AWE OF MY LORD!

I am not sure what all of this means but I know it is from the Lord.  May He open our eyes to behold the TRUTH!

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
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AWESOME VAL,,,,,,,,,I LOVE YOU and the spirit of our God that is within you!!

and in my opinion the LORD is speaking to you so just keep on keeping on honey!!
~veronique~
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 25 2006, 12:58 AM)
Thanks guys for your insight!  Right now I have chills from head to toe!
Tig the scripture that you shared was one the Lord gave me.  Signet the passage in Isaiah was another one.  That is wild!  (Not really just the Lord I know!)


Signet to answer your question, I had a very restless night.  It seemed that I woke up every hour.  When I did I was overwhelmed by different thoughts.
1st let me back to what has transpired over the past few days. To start off with I had done some research this week on the Crown Prince El Hassan Talal of Jordan.  I had watched a video from the International Prophecy Convention.  Joe Van Koering claimed that He was possibly the Anti-Chrit.  (Now I am not saying He is the A/C)  But what was interesting was he was the 42 descandant from Mohammad.  So that has been on my mind for a few days.

Then a friend called yesterday we were talking about the "Times of the Gentiles"
being fulfilled.  I had brought up the verse to her in :

Rev. 11:1 & 2  And  there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.  But the Court which is without the temple leave out. and measure it not. for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot FORTY TWO months.


Then last night I was doing some research of Clinton and stumbled across that he was the 42 president.

Now back to my sleepless night:  I did not connect all these "42"
until then.  It was as if everytime I rolled over and woke up the Lord would point out one of these.

1st it was Bill Clinton 42 president then the next hour I woke up it was the Prince Hassan and him being 42 descedant of Mohammad.  Then 42 months shall they tread the Holy City. 

Then He laid Daniel Chapter 8 and Chapter 11 on my heart.

Then tonight I was seeking the Lord and He told me to Look up Gen :42
Its when the famine was taking place and Jacob sent his sons to Egypt to buy corn

Next the Lord lead me to Isaiah 42 Wow! Signet I was overwhelmed just like I sensed from you, about this passage.

Then He lead me to 3 other passages one was Psalms 42

You need to read the whole passage about David's heart longing for the Lord just as a deer panteth  after the water.  He goes on the say at the end of the chapter that he was depressed because of the oppression of the enemy.  David says my enemies reproach me; while they say Daily WHERE IS YOUR GOD?

Next it was Psalms 106:42: Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjuection under their hand

This is the last verse:

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come!

By the way the order I put the sripture was the order the Lord gave them to me.

So I have been a little troubled all day!  When I finally woke up this morning I went outside to get my Bible.  I had left it in the car from last night at Church. While I was out there I had a very odd feeling come over me.  I posted this somewhere else today as well.  But I have only had these STONG strange feelings a handful of times in my life.  One time it was when we experiened the May 3rd Tornado (the largest tornado ever) that hit just a few blocks from our house.
Another time was when Katrina hit. 

 
I just came in from spending some quaility time with the Lord outside.  The setting was beautiful.  It was if Isaiah 42 was happening!  Sing unto the Lord a new song; and praise from the end of the earth.......  let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice.....Let the inhabitants of the rock sing.  let them shout from the top of the mountains.

This is what I experienced!  I had some praise music going I was praising the Lord,
I looked and the wind was blowing the trees ( they were clapping their hands) for the Father.  In the distant sky I could see the Lightening it was dancing for the Lord!  The crickets were singing and I was just in AWE OF MY LORD!

I am not sure what all of this means but I know it is from the Lord.  May He open our eyes to behold the TRUTH!

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
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I forgot to tell you, as soon as I saw the TITLE of your BOARD, "Number 42", I instantly but briefly, thot "CLINTON, 42nd pres.".....lol just thot I would share
Signet
Hi everyone,

On 42

I am really on Psalm 42...I learned that the accusations of the wicked,
evil spirits, the accuser of the brethren, ...yes, makes me sick!

In this Psalm it cries out to God...they accuse,we keeping the faith,
being gathered together, in one accord with the Word of God, we kept
holyday, time given to God, our ministry unto Him...

V5"...hope thou in God", this is the remedy, "for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance".
V6"...land of Jordan..."a baptism...we are called to the baptism, then even by fire of the Holy Spirit...calling us to forebear in faith...
V7" Deep calleth unto deep..."speaks of calling the dead forth...also the
deep things of God...and my revelation...places where I have died, my faith in him has healed me...
V8"..the God of my life".
V9"...why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?
V10"As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me; while they say daily unto me "where is thy God"?
V11"...for I shall yet praise him, who is the health(YESHUA)(salvation)of my countenance, and MY GOD.

Verse 11 uses a different Hebrew word than in other usages, different
from V5, too. It uses Yeshua! This is a healing word! It is Yeshua,
Jesus, Salvation=who is the health of my countenance, and my God!

Praise Him! I think I feel a preach commin' on! whe hoo!

Love,
Signet
Roxygal
Don't know if this means anything, but I had a dream last night...

I saw a huge wave as it was breaking... in the break there was Hebrew writing (I can't read Hebrew) and the number 42... after each sentence.

There were 3 rows of sentences.

Under that there was something written in French...the only word I saw was C'est 42.

Then I heard a voice... the wave is coming.

Then I woke up.

I have absolutely no idea what this means... anyone have a clue?

Many Blessings!
Love, Lisa
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(Roxygal @ Apr 28 2006, 10:07 AM)
Don't know if this means anything, but I had a dream last night...

I saw a huge wave as it was breaking... in the break there was Hebrew writing (I can't read Hebrew) and the number 42... after each sentence.

There were 3 rows of sentences.

Under that there was something written in French...the only word I saw was C'est 42.

Then I heard a voice... the wave is coming.

Then I woke up.

I have absolutely no idea what this means... anyone have a clue?

Many Blessings!
Love, Lisa
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Wow Lisa I don't know but when I read it my hair stood on ends! In Hebrew and French. I sure hope someone has a word.

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
shy1
"It's 42" in French in the waves . . . I keep thinking about the mission of the Two Witnesses. I've always believed that the timing of that was after the a/c broke the covenant and was "revealed" to be a bad guy, so to speak, and began to persecute Christians, and the Two as well. If by some weird happenstance (really weird, yeah!) things weren't happening the way we all think they will, it could be that the ministry of the Two will start in the next couple of years or so and maybe we will be around and will hear them. Maybe that will happen at the end of Shekel's 1335 days (Judas post) in early 2008 or so. Maybe sooner--who knows!

But whatever it is, it is coming, and it is coming soon! And knowing the way things happen in the Bible, it probably applies to more than one thing! Anyway, it's very exciting! And thanks for asking and sharing with us. This is the kind of thing that ends up being so exciting when people share! wub.gif
wernotalone
[quote=Signet,Apr 28 2006, 04:31 AM]
Hi everyone,

On 42

I am really on Psalm 42...I learned that the accusations of the wicked,
evil spirits, the accuser of the brethren, ...yes, makes me sick!

In this Psalm it cries out to God...they accuse,we keeping the faith,
being gathered together, in one accord with the Word of God, we kept
holyday, time given to God, our ministry unto Him...

V5"...hope thou in God", this is the remedy, "for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance".
V6"...land of Jordan..."a baptism...we are called to the baptism, then even by fire of the Holy Spirit...calling us to forebear in faith...
V7" Deep calleth unto deep..."speaks of calling the dead forth...also the
deep things of God...and my revelation...places where I have died, my faith in him has healed me...
V8"..the God of my life".
V9"...why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?
V10"As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me; while they say daily unto me "where is thy God"?
V11"...for I shall yet praise him, who is the health(YESHUA)(salvation)of my countenance, and MY GOD.

Verse 11 uses a different Hebrew word than in other usages, different
from V5, too. It uses Yeshua! This is a healing word! It is Yeshua,
Jesus, Salvation=who is the health of my countenance, and my God!

Praise Him! I think I feel a preach commin' on! whe hoo!

Love,
Signet
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HOW AWESOME is our GOD? Each breath from his MIGHTY THRONE enriches our hearts.
HIS FIRE IS COMING, and it's the Refining the heart and mind. PRAISE HIM, PRAISE HIM all ye nations with song and harp.
For his GLORY will shiine forth to all the nations...and they will be astounded at the GLORY OF HIS PRESENCE KNOWN, yes HE our LORD has always been known within the DEEP JOY that RESTORES OUR SOULS TO HIM...AMEN what a wonderful study here, and revelation by all...call on Him, pray, he loves those who speak the gospel, and who are his feet and hands..

I KEEP GETTING A WORD....SEND FORTH.


and a song...I will follow him. 1dsz5e4.gif
Hallah
Just adding the following for consideration. Don't know if it means anything or not.

mem=40=water=massive over power, chaos
bet=2=tent/house=household in, into



MEM = 40
Fountain of Wisdom

The mem, the letter of "water" (mayim) symbolizes the fountain of the Divine Wisdom of Torah. Just as the waters of a physical fountain (spring) ascend from their unknown subterranean source (the secret of the abyss in the account of Creation) to reveal themselves on earth, so does the fountain of wisdom express the power of flow from the superconscious source. In the terminology of Kabbalah, this flow is from keter ("crown") to chochmah ("wisdom"). The stream is symbolized in Proverbs as "the flowing stream, the source of wisdom."

Water - a parable for Torah.
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NUMBER

Forty

Worlds:

Forty days of the flood.
Forty seah, the minimum quantity of water required for a kosher mikveh.
Forty years of wandering in the Desert.
Souls:

Forty days from conception to the initial "formation" of the fetus.
"Forty less one":
The punishment of stripes;
The categories of work forbidden on the Sabbath;
The weeks of pregnancy.
Forty days of Israel waiting for Moses to descend with the Torah.
The (three) forty-year periods in the lives of Moses, Hillel, Rabban Yochanan ben Zakai, and Rabbi Akiva.
Forty generations from Moses to the completion of the Talmud.
Divinity:

Forty days of "lower teshuvah" for the sin of the Golden Calf.
Forty days of "higher teshuvah" in which Moses received the second tablets.
Forty cubits - the height of the entrance to the Sanctuary of the Temple.



Beyt =2
Symbolically, Bet encompasses the whole range of concepts found in the numerical category defined by the Number Two, such as Duality, Division, Image, and Reflection. God's use of these elements is particularly easy to trace through Scripture. I begin with the Second Day of Creation which is characterized by Division:

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The next time God divided the waters is in Exodus, the Second Book of the Bible:

And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.

The theme of Division is amplified in the Second Seal of Revelation,

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

The power to remove peace from the earth, to cause the civil division called war, is here represented by a Sword , which is the great archetypal instrument of Division generated from the Line, the Second Geometric Construct. This theme of the Second Seal also coheres with the ancient Rabbinical explanation of why the phrase "it was good" is missing from the Second Day of Creation. In The Gates of Light (16th century), Rabbi Gikatilla explained that

"it was good is not mentioned on the second day because it is the essence of difference and separation ... Wherever there is distinction and separation, good is not to be found, for good comes to bring peace and connect all things."

He then linked this with Genesis 2 where God said "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."

The Numerical Category defined by the Number Two
Second Divine Person The Son of God, The Word of God, The Image of God
Second Psalm Thou art my Son, this day I have begotten thee. - Only passage to be referenced by number in Scripture.
Second Day Division of the waters
Second Book Division of the waters of the Red Sea and the declaration of Israel as God's Son
Second Commandment No graven Images
Second Seal Horseman with Sword - the instrument of Division.
Second Geometric Construct The Line - the root of the symbols of the Rod and the Sword, which in turn symbolize the Word.
Messiahiscoming
Thank you guys for all that you have shared. I know that the Lord is unfolding so many things before our eyes. It is exciting and makes me very nervous all in the same breath.

I know this post is about the number 42, but I started to think of something I felt when President Reagan passed away. He was the 40 president and I remember as I watched the news coverage of his funeral that the Lord spoke to my spirit. He said this is the death of innocence and now we are moving into another time. I know the Lord was not telling me that Reagan was Innocent. Yet I feel He was speaking of a period in History that was passing, and another period was emerging. I just looked up Reagans death it was on 06/06/04. That has been almost 2 years ago and now I can see what the Lord was speaking to me about. In just 2 years how time is changing.


Look at it too 40+2=42 Wow the Lord continues to blow my mind. Maybe it was related after all. Father Lead us into all Truth! Reveal your word to our hearts and remove the scales from our eyes to behold what is coming on the earth.

Your friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming
~veronique~
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 28 2006, 08:29 PM)
QUOTE(Roxygal @ Apr 28 2006, 10:07 AM)
Don't know if this means anything, but I had a dream last night...

I saw a huge wave as it was breaking... in the break there was Hebrew writing (I can't read Hebrew) and the number 42... after each sentence.

There were 3 rows of sentences.

Under that there was something written in French...the only word I saw was C'est 42.

Then I heard a voice... the wave is coming.

Then I woke up.

I have absolutely no idea what this means... anyone have a clue?

Many Blessings!



the WAVE IS COMING:...................BIRTH PAINS?
Love, Lisa
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Wow Lisa I don't know but when I read it my hair stood on ends! In Hebrew and French. I sure hope someone has a word.

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
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~veronique~




the WAVE IS COMING:...................BIRTH PAINS?
~veronique~
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the WAVE IS COMING:...................BIRTH PAINS?
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I still don't know how to OPERATE this site...........lol

my thinking, is that when (was it Tig?) that had the dream or Roxy?

She heard "Here comes the wave"

I believe we are in the Birth pains.....but i wrote that like 4 hours ago......currently I am reminded of a scripture regarding a mountain falling into the sea?

VOLCANO?? Sorry don't have it.......Val do u?

Val remember after the Tsunami hit all this talk about NY could get one and remember how close Calif......started evacuating.....

Well, they (the researchers on the NEWS) pointed to a Volcano on the EDGE of Spain? I think it was. They said if an earthquake hit near the volcano, or if it were to just erupt, it could fall off the edge of the land there...............Thus, causing Tsunami over to NY......which really is not that far fetched.


Just sharing some stuff,,,,cause God reminded me of it. Who knows?
~veronique~
Did not mean to take away from the "42" discussion, but you never know when extra knowledge comes from a totally unexpected place, and could tie in to the same?
Messiahiscoming
Hey Roni,


Never thought of that. Would certainly cause a wave. The birthpangs as well it for sure comes in waves. Hey did you check out Roxygal dream in the dream section. If you have not check it out. Some pretty good discussion going on. Jump in I almost called you to check it out and get involved in it with us.

Love ya,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
Messiahiscoming
Roni,

By the Way I think this was the verse you were talking about:

Revelation 8:8

8And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood.

This sure sounds like what you described.

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Valerie
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~veronique~
YES thank you Valerie, that's the one!
senteami3
"42" means the duration of the Tribulation period.
It is interesting to note that by FIVE TIMES, this period is described in Revelation:
2 x 1,260 days (Revelation 11:3 and 12:6)
1 x times, time and half a time (Revelation 12:14)
2 x 42 months (Revelation 11:2 and 13:5)

I don't know about you, but contrary to the majority of televangelists that announce the Rapture 7 years before the end of the Tribulation period, I believe that the Rapture will take place 42 MONTHS before the end. Hence the sentence "it is 42 months".

Now why using French????
French IS the language of... Revelation!(I know it, I am French!) it's full of hidden codes!
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(senteami3 @ May 3 2006, 03:02 PM)
"42" means the duration of the Tribulation period.
It is interesting to note that by FIVE TIMES, this period is described in Revelation:
2 x 1,260 days (Revelation 11:3 and 12:6)
1 x times, time and half a time (Revelation 12:14)
2 x 42 months (Revelation  11:2 and 13:5)

I don't know about you, but contrary to the majority of televangelists that announce the Rapture 7 years before the end of the Tribulation period, I believe that the Rapture will take place 42 MONTHS before the end. Hence the sentence "it is 42 months".

Now why using French????
French IS the language of... Revelation!(I know it, I am French!) it's full of hidden codes!

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Just curious you said that Revelation is in French? I thought it was written in Greek?

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
~veronique~
Some of the things that Joe Vankoering speaks about is that he is the 42nd generation from Mohammad. He is from the Hashemite Family which is a descendant of Ishmael.
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Val says


Roni says...wow with your 42's
~veronique~
YES,,,,,SENTAMI>>Now why using French????
French IS the language of... Revelation!(I know it, I am French!) it's full of hidden codes!
>>>>>>

What are you saying?
Signet
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 3 2006, 10:55 PM)
YES,,,,,SENTAMI>>Now why using French????
French IS the language of... Revelation!(I know it, I am French!) it's full of hidden codes!
>>>>>>

What are you saying?
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Hi,

Please check out the 42 wave post as well and the code thread, OK?

You are French, also...maybe you too, will have an anwer for a couple of my questions.

Signet
~veronique~
I don't know about you, but contrary to the majority of televangelists that announce the Rapture 7 years before the end of the Tribulation period, I believe that the Rapture will take place 42 MONTHS before the end. Hence the sentence "it is 42 months".>>>>>>>>>>>>>Signet>>>


I definately lean this way.......IS THIS THE WAVE 42 you spoke of?
I am new on the board, need directions for DUMMIES..smile.gif

BTW, only 1/4 french

Blessings...now direct me where you want me to read, I am eager
Roxygal
This is the Wave 42 link..

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=5597

Blessings to you!
~veronique~
QUOTE(Roxygal @ Apr 28 2006, 11:07 AM)
Don't know if this means anything, but I had a dream last night...

I saw a huge wave as it was breaking... in the break there was Hebrew writing (I can't read Hebrew) and the number 42... after each sentence.

There were 3 rows of sentences.

Under that there was something written in French...the only word I saw was C'est 42.

Then I heard a voice... the wave is coming.

Then I woke up.

I have absolutely no idea what this means... anyone have a clue?

Many Blessings!
Love, Lisa
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http://french.about.com/library/bl-frenchinenglish-list.htm

This says.....C'est la vie.......that C'est pronounced "SAY"

Lisa said she SAW "C'est"............did it mean "SAY 42"?
~veronique~
Or since C'est can mean "THAT's"

She saw "THAT 42"????
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 4 2006, 02:23 PM)
Or since C'est can mean "THAT's"

She saw "THAT 42"????
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Hey girl! Glad to see your jumping in. By the way I think you need to start a thread concerning what you thought about the Tsunami. I think others would find this interesting. By the way guys this is my friend Roni. If you have ever heard me speak of my prophecy buddy this is her. We have been going at this for about 12 years. We have pondered many things regarding prophecy. She was the one that challenged me on my staunch stand concerning the pre-trib. After that it set me on a quest to search for the truth based on MY Study (not what someone had told me) Anyway just thought I would throw that out there!

Love you Guys,
Valeire

Messiahiscoming
~veronique~
Thank you dear sweet and wise sister
I love you

re the Tsunami and the Psalm?
Messiahiscoming
"The Abyss" being opened or even the Beast in the Sea/Leviathon (Psalms 104)

Love ya,

Valerie

Messiahiscoming
blindzebra
there are 42 chapters in the book of Job.
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