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Here is a story about a hate church

Let me say I heard a interview from one "I have not seem hate like this in a while"

I am not even sure I could love them

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192176,00.html

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Sgt. Daniel Sesker, 22, of Ogden, was killed April 6 when a bomb exploded near his Humvee outside Tikrit.

While friends and family remembered Sesker inside the Ogden High School gym, nine members of the Westboro Baptist Church, of Topeka, Kan., protested outside.

The church group has traveled to military funerals over the past year, waving signs and chanting offensive slogans. The church frequently claims that God is killing U.S. soldiers who fight for a country that tolerates homosexuality.

The church group was kept far away from the school after police marked off a line 530 feet away.

The protest came less than a day after Gov. Tom Vilsack signed a bill that requires protesters to stay at least 500 feet away from funerals. The new law went into effect immediately and carries escalating punishments for violations.

Members of a motorcycle group, the Patriot Guard Riders, were outside the school to pay tribute to Sesker. They have attended several military funerals to honor fallen soldiers.

hil Cordes, of Scribner, Neb., a member of the motorcycle group, stood outside the school and denounced the church group's presence.

"What they are doing is very despicable," Cordes said.

He said soldiers who are killed overseas and their families deserve better.

"These people deserve respect and the family deserves respect," he said.

The same church group picketed near the state Capitol in Des Moines later in the morning. They remained silent and waved signs as they stood nearly a block from the Statehouse.

Police watched from nearby but did not interfere with the protest.
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You should of heard this witch talk on Hannity and Colmes

thier Web site is

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_We..._Baptist_Church

The person interview was Shirley Phelps Roper

The Church is about 100 strong

watch for it because I call it a hate church

I am sorry if some other has made a tread about them

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

PS I hope I missunderstood but it makes me sad because I know I did not unless there is only one bad apple

Fred Phelps and his cult are dispicable. I in no way support those who choose the gay lifestyle, but these people are just beyond deluded!! Their main premise is that these soldiers deserve to die, because supposedly by going to war, they are supporting homosexuality. Just loony, this bunch.

I have also seen news reports on these people. About as warped as they come.

I'd be going to hell just because I'm from LA, used to be a musician (any music is from the devil ) and have side burns, which of course are from the devil as well.

Homosexuality is a sin. Why people look at it worse than murder, or adultery is boggling. Sin is sin. Sin is bondage to sin. And homosexuality is bondage in a sin that goes very deep. We should witness to homosexuals the same as all sinners. Show them they sin by showing them the commandments. They will have most likely broken all. Let them know all whom break the commandments are given justice by Father on the day of judgment. Unless they call upon the man whose paid for their sins. And then turn from all sins, including homosexuality, and live their life as christ demands. Trust in him. And these sick individual that look down all homosexuals, are know different. They are sinners in the eyes of God. All of us are. Their sin is just different. Pray that all see the light of the sacrifice of Jesus.

Just putting this question out there...is it though? If sin is sin is sin, then why did He take the trouble to label homosexuality an abomination? Are abominations as equally forgiveable as "sin"? I dunno the answer to this one, but one I ponder on.

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Beloved PraisingYeshua, Shaun333, and End-Time Calling

God loves us all my dear friend

I believe and sin a person does can be forgiven

I eat too must and I am over weight about 280 pounds or more

But I call over eating a sin because when I over eat I am putting food above God

by eating more food then I need

thank you

we can love people to the point they try not to sin and every way

I lost a few pounds but it hard because I have build a habit of over eating

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

God first

Beloved Signet

God loves you my dear friend

Good to see you my dear friend

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Does the Lord hate anyone?

Proverbs 6
12 A worthless person, a wicked man, Walks with a perverse mouth;
13 He winks with his eyes, He shuffles his feet, He points with his fingers;
14 Perversity is in his heart, He devises evil continually, He sows discord.
15 Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.
16 These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.


Charlie

actually, to be quite frank, i see little difference between Westboro Baptist Church and this forum.

you proclaim hate to islam and other ´wrong´ religions constantly, as well as judge anyone not accepting your particular view, they proclaim hate to homosexuals, both are unfounded. how anyone on this forum can judge them is beyond my scope, how does the logic work ?

this forum, and every place, is a mixed bag, isn't it job?

the wheat can be found among the weeds.
the true wheat were over-sown with weeds along time ago...by an enemy.
and it continues now, as then.

but the end will bring about division.

Christ came, to cause division.

a separating.

but do not be disheartened or lose faith in God over it.

by no means!

in fact, it is by means of this that we see his word is true.

May He grant us wisdom, insight and the ability to discern good from what is bad.

we need him, and his spirit, and his word, in order to do so.

be cautious, yet remain innocent.

and by all means speak the truth in love. but what you say is true.

-bz

Lord we need you
Like the flower needs the rain
You know we need you
And we say it all again
You know we need you
We need you
We need you...a familar song I just felt led to quote

This is rather humbling BZ. You're so right, we live side by side and must discern constantly. I love your posts, they are so full of truth and insight! May the Lord Bless you today.

Why does Jesus love us.
For God so LOVED the World that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever beleiveth in him shall not persih, but have everlasting LIFE..

WHY DOES JESUS LOVE US?

Because he loves you
Because he loves you
Because he loves you
Becasue he loves you
Because he loves you
Because he loves you

Eternity for ever and Always...HOW GREAT IS OUR KING...HOW powerful is his love.not a question but an anwer to embrace with all our being.

peace, love and unity!

Speaking of hate churches, I had a very vivid dream about a new church rising.

It was called The Five Points Star of David...It was very satantic, but presented themselves as the Angel of Light....Many people fell for it. I saw very vivid things in the dream. The biggest thing I remember is this huge wood stained statue/background. It had many things on it with the top holding this 5 star of David...I saw sea's of people coming into this church...
It was a strange dream.....


Sorry for going off topic a bit...

Wow Pamela I had a dream too last night that frightened me, it was something too! Unfortunately I only remember bits and pieces, so I won't post it here.

Roy thanks for the heads up on that church. People are being deluded...

The WORD says, "STRONG DELUSIONS".

We need to be praying.

Aren't perceptions amazing? I have yet to see hate on this forum...I have seen a great deal of biblical based comments pertaining to issues, including islam, etc. However, the bible instructs us to show others the error of their ways...does that equate to being high and mighty? I certainly don't think so. All one must do is pray with a pure heart, to know if something is true or not. Fred Phelps and his cult are, unfortunately, twisting the Word of G-d, and are truly hateful. I can only speak for myself, but I hate no one. I certainly do not judge anyone for not accepting my particular view. Is anyone on this forum judging homosexuals? Commenting, yes...questioning, absolutely. Pointing out how it is referenced in the bible...the Word of G-d...yes. But judging? I don't see it. However, I do subscribe to hate the sin, love the sinner.

hate to islam? You are kidding right? Rebuking "islam" for blowing up little children with suicide bombs is hardly "hate". Be clear.

Needless to say, the difference between what Jesus says and what the koran says is the definition of opposite. You want hate, read the koran and look at everyone that subscribes to it and their actions.

These people that call themselves "Christians" are completely ignoring the words of Jesus.
muslims that go by the koran are following it to the letter. Big difference.

According to your words regarding scope, it must be quite small apparently, in the regard that you sound like pocket, a right old gentleman that has passed this way recently and use the exact same "deductions" without actually truly looking at the details.

You tell me the logic in blowing up babies and women for "god" and I'll show you the exact opposite in the things and ways of GOD, that is Jesus.

If my "logic" makes me a mean old Christian in your eyes, so be it. I'm not here to appease men, but to worship Jesus.

GOD gives HIS Children many gifts....one is a discerning spirit!

Awesome post Shaun...you passion for G-d is apparent to all. And a HUGE AMEN to this statement of yours that I have quoted! Amen amen amen!

Thanks PY (that's the "hip" version of your name. I'm so 80's), but straight truth is straight truth, no matter which direction you approach it from.

No one is beyond Gods grace, for so long. I believe that of course being gay can be forgiven. I happens to know some homosexuals that changed their lifes and now live for Christ. I don't remember Christ saying my grace is sufficient, except for homosexuals. HE said he wants no one to perish. not no one except homosexuals. They are equally forgivable for so long. But to come out of a sin like this is harder than most. The level of bondage to some sins are far greater than thoes of some. Father says to repent from this particular sin, but if they persist that after so long of continuing in this particular sin, God will turn them over to their sin. This may be the point of no return for a homosexual for the hardening of their hearts. I had a scripture about this. I will find it and come back to this conversation. if ya want. I actually have some homosexual in the family is why I happen to know a little something on this.

Of course we want!

ok, I have an interview. I'll be back this evening.

Yes indeed....

Me neither. This is one of(if not THE) the nicest forums I've been on.

God first

Beloved charlie

God loves you my dear friend

Yes our Lord God abd our Lord Savior love all people while they may not love the actions of some that still love us all

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Job-6

God loves you my dear friend

No body here hates you my dear friend but about other religions I can only speak for myself

A name of a group means nothing to me I love all religions that read for God and live love

Now what I dislike how some leaders are money or power worshiprs

And how to get either they missised their smaller believer investments for gain or bombs which both are wrong

We are too love each other no matter what

Now I read all books about my God from all over the world I take nothing at face value I ask God about all things

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

what does islam have to do with suicide bombers? have you read the koran? its very similar to the holy bible.



no, its not. the koran and the bible is very similar, the only difference is, is that the muslims follow their holy book more accurately then chrisitans. chrisitans for example do not go around killing everyone that does not bow down to christianity, this is against the holy bible, as it states this very clear. woman are inferior according to the bible, do you agree? incest is also involved quite a deal, and killing of ones children is ok if they are "bad", maybe you should read the koran yourself.



i dont know which christians you mean, but if they conduct themselves in killing they are more "real" then you are, as the holy bible clearly say what you should do with "infidels".



i have read both the koran and the bible, personally i find the bible rather boring, or, very very boring, but the koran is on second place. and we are not talking about other members of this forum, so why do oyu change subject? i thought the topic was about Westboro Baptist Church, which my statement was related to.



i have said nothing regarding good or bad towards either islam or chrisitanity, i merely pointed out that you are no different. maybe you never heard about the crusades, or inquisition, i wont tell you about it if you dont ask, but i sggest you look it up.



i have said no such thing, i merely stated that you where the same, Westboro Baptist Church statements about homosexuality is similar towards the majority view you hold against islam. and the hatred shows just in your response here, where you clearly claim all muslims are evil, because a suicide bomber was muslim, the logic misses me, im sorry.

Job-6, your statment's are false we are not the same as Westboro Baptist Church or for that matter Islamic extremeists....as for the crusades, etc, it is OLD...

So, do you know Pocket?

GOD still loves you.

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Beloved blindzebra

God loves you my dear friend

Yes lets speak the truth in love

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved wernotalone

God loves us all

Yes lets sing the love of God we all for him and his son

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved ifeinhim61

God loves you my dear friend

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved c-los medrano

God loves us all my dear friend

yes lets have peace, love and unity

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Pamela

God loves you

That ok we love to hear from you and dreams you have my dear friend

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved onetiggerroo

God loves you

Your welcome for heads up

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved PraisingYeshua

God loves you

Yes this group is of Love

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Shaun333

God loves you

Yes we love all but not all people actions

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Actually, you began the talk of islam here:




As for the Qur'an and the Holy Bible, I too have read both, and you are dead wrong on them being so alike. You need to go back and read those surahs and specific ayats.

is that it? you state its false and give no evidence for it? are you serious?

i thought i made it simple, it wasn´t like i didnt sy clearly in what way your similar, i say it again then.

Westboro Baptist Church proclaims unfounded hatred for homosexuals.
You (that is, the majority of this forum) proclaims unfounded hatred for islam.

easy.



no. and i know god loves me, but not the one you believe in, i have a loving one.

do you accept all what the holy bible say (nt & ot), or are you chosing selective?

And where is your evidence?



Again...where is your proof? Sorry, but it seems to me that you are throwing up a red herring.



I fear for your soul, and pray that the god you refer to is G-d of the bible.

Do you??

To answer you, no, I am not being selective...could you please give a specific reference to where I was?

God first

Beloved PraisingYeshua

God loves you

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way

Beloved End-Time Calling

God loves you

Yes no one can not be forgiven

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved ducktapehero

God loves you

yes this is one of the best and I know been kick out of 1,000's of them

for the way I sign by name even if I explain or telling the truth

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Job-6 you say you only believe in a loving God, that' great. Do you believe that this loving God can be angered, and one day pour out a wrath only He can pour out?

Thank you Roy, for you kind words....
Peace to you

Roy, you have a heart for the True and Loving GOD! ...and for HIS people! Praise HIS NAME! Jehovah Jirah our provider!

Roy, thanks for bringing love and peace into the midst of this chaos! You posted three times, that's a perfect number. Pocket, you need to rest!

God first

Beloved Job-6

God loves you my dear friend

you wrote

what does islam have to do with suicide bombers? have you read the koran? its very similar to the holy bible.


Yes I read part of the Koran and the bible but there more than reading there is living the love both teaching and that is not suicide bombers but thank God all that read these books are not that foolish

you wrote

no, its not. the koran and the bible is very similar, the only difference is, is that the muslims follow their holy book more accurately then chrisitans. chrisitans for example do not go around killing everyone that does not bow down to christianity, this is against the holy bible, as it states this very clear. woman are inferior according to the bible, do you agree? incest is also involved quite a deal, and killing of ones children is ok if they are "bad", maybe you should read the koran yourself.


Yes they are similar in many ways both teach love and both have been took out of context to get power or money

No muslims do follower their holy book more accurately than christians we all sin and come short of the glory of God

Talk about killing it not true children of God who kill because of beliefs today its fools that do this

As for women they are not inferior according to the bible but if married to be subject to their man to kept order no more no less

you wrote

i have read both the koran and the bible, personally i find the bible rather boring, or, very very boring, but the koran is on second place. and we are not talking about other members of this forum, so why do oyu change subject? i thought the topic was about Westboro Baptist Church, which my statement was related to.


I find both books have many things I can learn from and neither are boring

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

I just am amazed that Christians continue to give points to people that reject Jesus. This just continues and is very frustrating.

Roy, you say in response to job6 (pocket), this referring to the Bible and koran:

"Yes they are similar in many ways both teach love and both have been took out of context to get power or money."

You also say this:

" I find both books have many things I can learn from and neither are boring."


Yes, indeed if you want to learn how to kill Christians and Jews, and insight hate, by all means you can learn something from the koran.

If you want eternal life, read The Bible. I guess boring has become a subjective word.

They are similar in NO way.

Unbelievable, truly.

As far as the same old arguments about the "crusades" etc. , this is just so completely tiresome relating the same counter-arguments, one needs to step back. It's especially boring relating the same exact arguments to someone that masks themselves as a former poster (pocket) that has been given ample time in hearing and listening to people's explanations of Jesus and who He is.

pocket did not listen, he just chose to wind people up and it was fun, wasn't it pocket? It was quite a rush seeing all the stupid Christians try in such a desperate way to help you with your journey to Christ.

I'm calling you out. This is a spirit of deception. job-6, pocket, this type of person we have seen here recently. Anyone with half an eye for discernment can see what this is. This is very strong and will end up with "job-6" saying, "show me and challenge me and prove it", in a mocking way such as pocket did. If job-6 isn't pocket, then it's his twin brother.

As far as lifeinhim (Rose) asking pocket to take a rest, I'll go ahead and take that advice instead for a couple of days. I'm so absolutely tired of seeing Christians give up points and pieces of themselves to suit a fool. It's quite daunting and I'm very tired of trying to give the same explanations over and over again to posters that mask themselves as others such as pocket.

If job-6 wants the same answers, there here in this forum to be found COUNTLESS times, over and over again. The difference is, that you don't want to find answers, you want to sow discontent and malice.

Warning, watch for this. It has been heavy lately.

Shaun, you make some very valid points. But, I ask that instead of retiring from the forum for a few days, due to your feeling weary, that you go to G-d, and pray for His strength. You are speaking truth, and of course the great deciever himself would rather you not remain as a positive presence here, if even for only a few days. Ultimately, if you feel you truly need a break, then you know yourself best. But, please don't let your frustration over another's willful denial, etc, cause you to take that break. Go to Him prayerfully...it may be during that absence that you were deeply needed on this forum.

I have a question Job6...you compared early on in this thread, the majority of forum members, to Fred Phelps and that bunch...and further in attempt to accuse US of judging...so, pray tell, where is YOUR tolerance? You seem to be making some mighty strong judgements yourself. Just something you might want to ponder.

Oh...and that it is sinful to judge others, if you then turn around and copy that exact behavior. It is not judgement to point out error, as per His word.

Ex. If I were to tell a homosexual that they were wrong, going to hell, what have you, and then I went out and commited those same acts night after night, while preaching against it, THAT is judgement. To tell a homosexual their behavior is wrong, and against G-d, is not judgement...but instruction from G-d. (check that boring bible you referred to) Of course, as I stated earlier...love the sinner...hate the sin. But somehow, I have a feeling you quite know this.

I appreciate your post PY, but I am more frustrated, not in othesr willful denial of Jesus, which I have come to expect in this day and time, but more so the blatant ceding of points from Christians to try and draw in non-Christians. Salvation is not to be haggled with. That's where my frustration stems from.

cede
tr.v. ced·ed, ced·ing, cedes
To surrender possession of, especially by treaty. See Synonyms at relinquish.
To yield; grant: The debater refused to cede the point to her opponent.


If I were to be frustrated with everyone that rejected Christ, I would have driven myself insane at this point, lol. It's more with the willful giving up of strength that Christians feel is necessary to try and bring someone to Christ.

That being said, I need to take a break regardless.

Thanks again for the words. From what I've seen of your posts, you'll be able to combat any idiocy quite nicely.

YK, I do understand this. There is a major watering down of christianity. *I* have personally never seen it the few days I have been on this forum, so you are far more knowledgeable when it comes to making that statement.





Understood. I will keep you in my prayers, and hope to see you back soon. You're one of the few who understand my humor. Seriously, may you be blessed in your absence, and don't stay gone too long, k?



Could this be construed as a compliment?


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