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Charlie
Does God Inhabit His Creation?

In Him we live and move and have our being?


Charlie

c-los medrano
ha ha i was the only one that said "no."

depends how you look at it really.
Maz
QUOTE(charlie @ Mar 29 2006, 08:40 PM)
Does God Inhabit His Creation?

In Him we live and move and have our being?


Charlie
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Man's sense of moral responsibility and dependence, and his instinctive appeal to God in times of danger, show how universal and innate is the conviction that God does govern the world and all human events. But while the Bible repeatedly teaches that this providential control is universal, Powerful, wise, and holy, it nowhere attempts to inform us how it is to be reconciled with man's free agency. All that we need to know is that God does govern His creatures and that His control over them is such that no violence is done to their natures. Perhaps the relationship between divine sovereignty and human freedom can best be summed up in these words: God so presents the outside inducements that man acts in accordance with his own nature, yet does exactly what God has planned for him to do.


c-los medrano
QUOTE(Jack Lavictoire @ Mar 30 2006, 12:22 AM)
Yes in that -

John 17:23
I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

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that's for those that are in the body of Christ.
how about others such as pagan worshipers or atheists?
what do you say then?

who's the other person that said "no" with me?
you can PM me if you dont wanna post it. wink.gif
gary steed
what i can say that i have noticed is that the Holy Spirt can speak through a wo/man and the person dosent have any memory of it. a biblical example is
John 11:49-52
And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, [50] Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. [51] And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; [52] And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

i would say that he did not realize the gravety of what he said

Gary
leia
QUOTE(charlie @ Mar 29 2006, 09:40 PM)
Does God Inhabit His Creation?

In Him we live and move and have our being?


Charlie
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I agree....and so I can't answer.

He created everything so everything has part of him in it's creation; it was brought into being by the Word and the Word is God; but that creation having choice may or may not have "the better half".

leia
hannah fievel
Just always liked this scripture:

Ga 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

AMEN PAUL! He had it going on! So, this scripture "shows" that it isn't just us any more when we accept Christ....He should be taking over "your being" spiritually we live with HIM in us! AMEN! wub.gif your sis, hannah smile.gif
c-los medrano
QUOTE(charlie @ Mar 29 2006, 09:40 PM)
Does God Inhabit His Creation?

In Him we live and move and have our being?


Charlie
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maybe I'm reading this wrong.
When you say "His creation"
are we talking about us as believers of God and we are His Creation.
OR are we talking about all people inhabiting the earth in regards to believers and non-believers.

I've read posted scriptures and they are referring to believers and not addressing
non-believers and such.
Maybe I misread the question?

greatly appreciated if some one responds.
thanks smile.gif
Charlie
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Mar 31 2006, 10:14 AM)
QUOTE(charlie @ Mar 29 2006, 09:40 PM)
Does God Inhabit His Creation?

In Him we live and move and have our being?


Charlie
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maybe I'm reading this wrong.
When you say "His creation"
are we talking about us as believers of God and we are His Creation.
OR are we talking about all people inhabiting the earth in regards to believers and non-believers.

I've read posted scriptures and they are referring to believers and not addressing
non-believers and such.
Maybe I misread the question?

greatly appreciated if some one responds.
thanks smile.gif
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Inhabit

SYLLABICATION: in•hab•it
PRONUNCIATION: n-hbt
VERB: Inflected forms: in•hab•it•ed, in•hab•it•ing, in•hab•its
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To live or reside in. 2. To be present in;
INTRANSITIVE VERB: Archaic To dwell.

Creation would be everything that you could see, feel, hear, smell, taste, know, think or touch.

Charlie

c-los medrano
QUOTE(charlie @ Apr 2 2006, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Mar 31 2006, 10:14 AM)
QUOTE(charlie @ Mar 29 2006, 09:40 PM)
Does God Inhabit His Creation?

In Him we live and move and have our being?


Charlie
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maybe I'm reading this wrong.
When you say "His creation"
are we talking about us as believers of God and we are His Creation.
OR are we talking about all people inhabiting the earth in regards to believers and non-believers.

I've read posted scriptures and they are referring to believers and not addressing
non-believers and such.
Maybe I misread the question?

greatly appreciated if some one responds.
thanks smile.gif
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Inhabit

SYLLABICATION: in•hab•it
PRONUNCIATION: n-hbt
VERB: Inflected forms: in•hab•it•ed, in•hab•it•ing, in•hab•its
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To live or reside in. 2. To be present in;
INTRANSITIVE VERB: Archaic To dwell.

Creation would be everything that you could see, feel, hear, smell, taste, know, think or touch.

Charlie
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thanks bud.
sorry im not too bright of a person.
i usually surf the internet and follow the crowd when it comes to learning.
i only go to church on Christmas and Easter.
i don't know much really. sad.gif

i've always understood that He dwells within believers but His grace falls on everyone (that's different). i'm not sure about this topic so i was hoping to get enlightened by scripture instead of a definition.
I'm still waiting on scripture....
thanks for your time though.
I can see that you really know your stuff! yay! smile.gif
c-los medrano
wow...i appreciate you guys all voting "yes."

i voted "no" and still stand unless some one shows me scripture that says that God inhabits inside a non-believer.

Some one bring me to the light because I only go to church on Easter and Christmas. I wish i knew "things."

teach me...please.

thanks in advance.
Charlie
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Apr 11 2006, 12:31 PM)
wow...i appreciate you guys all voting "yes."

i voted "no" and still stand unless some one shows me scripture that says that God inhabits inside a non-believer.

Some one bring me to the light because I only go to church on Easter and Christmas. I wish i knew "things."

teach me...please.

thanks in advance.
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Hey c-los medrano

God is not interfering in the choice making process of the nonbeliever even though He formed the spirit within them but He is however keeping the neutrons circling the protons in the atoms that hold them together. He also guides the constellations in their season and keeps the sun fueled that gives them warmth and light. The air comes from heaven that they breathe and without it they would die. The book of Job where God answers Job out of the whirlwind is an excellent place to learn what all God does on a regular basis. Read chapter 38 on.


Zechariah 12
1 Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:

Job 38
1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
2 "Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge?
3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 "Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb;
9 When I made the clouds its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band;
10 When I fixed My limit for it, And set bars and doors;
11 When I said, 'This far you may come, but no farther, And here your proud waves must stop!'
12 "Have you commanded the morning since your days began, And caused the dawn to know its place,
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it?
14 It takes on form like clay under a seal, And stands out like a garment.
15 From the wicked their light is withheld, And the upraised arm is broken.
16 "Have you entered the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths?
17 Have the gates of death been revealed to you? Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?
18 Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this.
19 "Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place,
20 That you may take it to its territory, That you may know the paths to its home?
21 Do you know it, because you were born then, Or because the number of your days is great?
22 "Have you entered the treasury of snow, Or have you seen the treasury of hail,
23 Which I have reserved for the time of trouble, For the day of battle and war?
24 By what way is light diffused, Or the east wind scattered over the earth?
25 "Who has divided a channel for the overflowing water, Or a path for the thunderbolt,
26 To cause it to rain on a land where there is no one, A wilderness in which there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate waste, And cause to spring forth the growth of tender grass?
28 Has the rain a father? Or who has begotten the drops of dew?
29 From whose womb comes the ice? And the frost of heaven, who gives it birth?
30 The waters harden like stone, And the surface of the deep is frozen.
31 "Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, Or loose the belt of Orion? 32 Can you bring out Mazzaroth in its season? Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you set their dominion over the earth?
34 "Can you lift up your voice to the clouds, That an abundance of water may cover you?
35 Can you send out lightnings, that they may go, And say to you, 'Here we are!'?
36 Who has put wisdom in the mind? Or who has given understanding to the heart?
37 Who can number the clouds by wisdom? Or who can pour out the bottles of heaven, 38 When the dust hardens in clumps, And the clods cling together?
39 "Can you hunt the prey for the lion, Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,
40 When they crouch in their dens, Or lurk in their lairs to lie in wait?
41 Who provides food for the raven, When its young ones cry to God, And wander about for lack of food?



Charlie

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