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oh my dear god...
Very very sad... i can't even imagine being there...
That is truly heart-wrenching. Wow.
This is truly sad....
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This is truly sad....
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So, he left the scene as soon as he took the photograph? Didn't he clearly see the child was dying?
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QUOTE(Pamela @ Mar 21 2006, 09:16 PM)
This is truly sad....
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So, he left the scene as soon as he took the photograph? Didn't he clearly see the child was dying?
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That is what my husband asked....Didn't the guy help this child?
I cannot even begin to wrap my mind around how he could leave that precious baby! I guess that's why he committed suicide in the end.
I found some information about the photographer:
Kevin Carter, Photographer,
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The image that haunted so many people.Kevin Carter (September 13, 1961 – July 27, 1994) was an award-winning South African photojournalist and member of the Bang-Bang Club.
Carter began his career as a weekend sports photographer in 1983 for Johannesburg's Sunday Express. A year later he moved on to work for the Johannesburg Star bent on exposing the brutality of apartheid. That same year Carter's first Time cover appeared.
Carter was the first to photograph a public execution by necklacing in South Africa in the mid-1980s. He later spoke of the images; "I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do."[1]
In March 1993 Carter made a trip to southern Sudan with intentions of documenting the local rebel movement. However, upon arriving and witnessing the horror of the famine crises Carter began to take photographs of starving victims. The sound of soft, high-pitched whimpering near the village of Ayod attracted Carter to a young emaciated Sudanese toddler. The girl had stopped to rest while struggling to a feeding center, wherein a seemingly well-fed vulture had landed nearby. Carter snapped the haunting photograph and chased the vulture away. However, he also came under heavy criticism for just photographing — and not helping — the girl:
"The man adjusting his lens to take just the right frame of her suffering might just as well be a predator, another vulture on the scene." [2]
The photograph was sold to The New York Times where it appeared for the first time on March 26, 1993. Practically overnight hundreds of people contacted the newspaper to ask whether the child had survived, leading the newspaper to run a special editor's note on the fate of the girl. On April 2, 1994 Nancy Buirski, a foreign New York Times picture editor, phoned Carter to inform him he had won the most coveted prize for photography. Carter was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography on May 23, 1994 at Columbia University's Low Memorial Library.
He later confided to friends that he wished he had intervened and helped the child. Journalists at the time were warned never to touch famine victims for fear of disease. This criticism and the death of a close friend, Ken Oosterbroek, who was shot and killed in Tokoza on April 18, 1994 while covering township violence, may have contributed to Carter's tragic suicide. On July 27, 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Center, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck’s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. The last person to see Carter alive was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. Portions of Carter's suicide note read:
"I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky."
Kevin Carter, Photographer,
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Jump to: navigation, search
The image that haunted so many people.Kevin Carter (September 13, 1961 – July 27, 1994) was an award-winning South African photojournalist and member of the Bang-Bang Club.
Carter began his career as a weekend sports photographer in 1983 for Johannesburg's Sunday Express. A year later he moved on to work for the Johannesburg Star bent on exposing the brutality of apartheid. That same year Carter's first Time cover appeared.
Carter was the first to photograph a public execution by necklacing in South Africa in the mid-1980s. He later spoke of the images; "I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do."[1]
In March 1993 Carter made a trip to southern Sudan with intentions of documenting the local rebel movement. However, upon arriving and witnessing the horror of the famine crises Carter began to take photographs of starving victims. The sound of soft, high-pitched whimpering near the village of Ayod attracted Carter to a young emaciated Sudanese toddler. The girl had stopped to rest while struggling to a feeding center, wherein a seemingly well-fed vulture had landed nearby. Carter snapped the haunting photograph and chased the vulture away. However, he also came under heavy criticism for just photographing — and not helping — the girl:
"The man adjusting his lens to take just the right frame of her suffering might just as well be a predator, another vulture on the scene." [2]
The photograph was sold to The New York Times where it appeared for the first time on March 26, 1993. Practically overnight hundreds of people contacted the newspaper to ask whether the child had survived, leading the newspaper to run a special editor's note on the fate of the girl. On April 2, 1994 Nancy Buirski, a foreign New York Times picture editor, phoned Carter to inform him he had won the most coveted prize for photography. Carter was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography on May 23, 1994 at Columbia University's Low Memorial Library.
He later confided to friends that he wished he had intervened and helped the child. Journalists at the time were warned never to touch famine victims for fear of disease. This criticism and the death of a close friend, Ken Oosterbroek, who was shot and killed in Tokoza on April 18, 1994 while covering township violence, may have contributed to Carter's tragic suicide. On July 27, 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Center, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck’s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. The last person to see Carter alive was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. Portions of Carter's suicide note read:
"I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky."
bill gates gave a little of his welth on top but how much dose he give underneath the table?damed choices damed if you do and damed if you dont leaders are in the spotlight pray for them vigeracely when you have limited resorses you must prioritize and make the best out of a bad situation the jew took some beasting in the sec end world war
QUOTE(G Horse @ Mar 21 2006, 11:47 PM)
bill gates gave a little of his welth on top but how much dose he give underneath the table?damed choices damed if you do and damed if you dont leaders are in the spotlight pray for them vigeracely when you have limited resorses you must prioritize and make the best out of a bad situation the jew took some beasting in the sec end world war
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G Horse, I'm not sure what your post has to do with the photographer....???
QUOTE(Flogi @ Mar 21 2006, 11:26 PM)
I found some information about the photographer:
Kevin Carter, Photographer,
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
The image that haunted so many people.Kevin Carter (September 13, 1961 – July 27, 1994) was an award-winning South African photojournalist and member of the Bang-Bang Club.
Carter began his career as a weekend sports photographer in 1983 for Johannesburg's Sunday Express. A year later he moved on to work for the Johannesburg Star bent on exposing the brutality of apartheid. That same year Carter's first Time cover appeared.
Carter was the first to photograph a public execution by necklacing in South Africa in the mid-1980s. He later spoke of the images; "I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do."[1]
In March 1993 Carter made a trip to southern Sudan with intentions of documenting the local rebel movement. However, upon arriving and witnessing the horror of the famine crises Carter began to take photographs of starving victims. The sound of soft, high-pitched whimpering near the village of Ayod attracted Carter to a young emaciated Sudanese toddler. The girl had stopped to rest while struggling to a feeding center, wherein a seemingly well-fed vulture had landed nearby. Carter snapped the haunting photograph and chased the vulture away. However, he also came under heavy criticism for just photographing — and not helping — the girl:
"The man adjusting his lens to take just the right frame of her suffering might just as well be a predator, another vulture on the scene." [2]
The photograph was sold to The New York Times where it appeared for the first time on March 26, 1993. Practically overnight hundreds of people contacted the newspaper to ask whether the child had survived, leading the newspaper to run a special editor's note on the fate of the girl. On April 2, 1994 Nancy Buirski, a foreign New York Times picture editor, phoned Carter to inform him he had won the most coveted prize for photography. Carter was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography on May 23, 1994 at Columbia University's Low Memorial Library.
He later confided to friends that he wished he had intervened and helped the child. Journalists at the time were warned never to touch famine victims for fear of disease. This criticism and the death of a close friend, Ken Oosterbroek, who was shot and killed in Tokoza on April 18, 1994 while covering township violence, may have contributed to Carter's tragic suicide. On July 27, 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Center, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck’s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. The last person to see Carter alive was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. Portions of Carter's suicide note read:
"I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky."
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Kevin Carter, Photographer,
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
The image that haunted so many people.Kevin Carter (September 13, 1961 – July 27, 1994) was an award-winning South African photojournalist and member of the Bang-Bang Club.
Carter began his career as a weekend sports photographer in 1983 for Johannesburg's Sunday Express. A year later he moved on to work for the Johannesburg Star bent on exposing the brutality of apartheid. That same year Carter's first Time cover appeared.
Carter was the first to photograph a public execution by necklacing in South Africa in the mid-1980s. He later spoke of the images; "I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do."[1]
In March 1993 Carter made a trip to southern Sudan with intentions of documenting the local rebel movement. However, upon arriving and witnessing the horror of the famine crises Carter began to take photographs of starving victims. The sound of soft, high-pitched whimpering near the village of Ayod attracted Carter to a young emaciated Sudanese toddler. The girl had stopped to rest while struggling to a feeding center, wherein a seemingly well-fed vulture had landed nearby. Carter snapped the haunting photograph and chased the vulture away. However, he also came under heavy criticism for just photographing — and not helping — the girl:
"The man adjusting his lens to take just the right frame of her suffering might just as well be a predator, another vulture on the scene." [2]
The photograph was sold to The New York Times where it appeared for the first time on March 26, 1993. Practically overnight hundreds of people contacted the newspaper to ask whether the child had survived, leading the newspaper to run a special editor's note on the fate of the girl. On April 2, 1994 Nancy Buirski, a foreign New York Times picture editor, phoned Carter to inform him he had won the most coveted prize for photography. Carter was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography on May 23, 1994 at Columbia University's Low Memorial Library.
He later confided to friends that he wished he had intervened and helped the child. Journalists at the time were warned never to touch famine victims for fear of disease. This criticism and the death of a close friend, Ken Oosterbroek, who was shot and killed in Tokoza on April 18, 1994 while covering township violence, may have contributed to Carter's tragic suicide. On July 27, 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Center, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck’s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. The last person to see Carter alive was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. Portions of Carter's suicide note read:
"I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky."
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How truly sad, for not only the child, but this photographer, one was genocide, the other was suicide. May the LORD have mercy. I can not fanthom the images that must have haunted this photographer....but I also can not understand why, he did not help that innocent child either. It really breaks my heart, to see such suffering, and to stop and photograph it, and do nothing.
He feared that if he carried the child he would get a disease
The child could be temporarily fed for the moment, only to live to suffer a worse thing later. Oh my God, all the terrible, horrible things that this picture makes you think...God have Mercy.
People where being slaughtered by envading tribes all the time, coming into villages and raping the woman and killing the children.
He must have felt helpless in this situation...who knows what he could do?
Or you and I if faced with this same situation. I would bring the child some food and water...it doesn't say he did that, maybe none was available.
How hard would it be for him to take the child out of the country...I'm sure all things considered where one would not be able to help other than a temporary comfort. I suppose he was putting his life on the line as well, just to get the photographs to make the world aware of what was going on.
The whole situation is an act of bravery and also and act of not knowing how to act in this given situation. I'm sure he suffered with total frustration, and possible fighting to help in an envirement where it was not possible to help because of lack of medical supplies, not being a doctor himself, no food possible or water...and this was probably only one victim of many that he passed by in a envirement stricken by famine, disease and war.
The artical is written taking the view off the Real enemy and focussing on the one who wanted to expose the enemy...well that's Hollywood for you.
Think how many innocent lives that soldiers see lying in ditches, wounded, starving and so forth due to war, and your frustration of not being able to help, but to just continue doing your duty and leaving the rest to the meds.
Our Lord does have mercy. He was putting his life in a threatening envirement.
I will not judge this man, why should I, I was not there or in the same situation, but yes it is terribly sad, but I will not judge this man...had not the photos been made public neither would the circumstances of what was going on there been known, but possibly still hidden.
Nothing glamorized in War stricken, poverty stricken countries...so terrible yes.
God has mercy, thank God
you could ask the same questions over and over again and not get an answer that would satisfy your compassionate heart....he did what he could that's all he could do I beleive...
People where being slaughtered by envading tribes all the time, coming into villages and raping the woman and killing the children.
He must have felt helpless in this situation...who knows what he could do?
Or you and I if faced with this same situation. I would bring the child some food and water...it doesn't say he did that, maybe none was available.
How hard would it be for him to take the child out of the country...I'm sure all things considered where one would not be able to help other than a temporary comfort. I suppose he was putting his life on the line as well, just to get the photographs to make the world aware of what was going on.
The whole situation is an act of bravery and also and act of not knowing how to act in this given situation. I'm sure he suffered with total frustration, and possible fighting to help in an envirement where it was not possible to help because of lack of medical supplies, not being a doctor himself, no food possible or water...and this was probably only one victim of many that he passed by in a envirement stricken by famine, disease and war.
The artical is written taking the view off the Real enemy and focussing on the one who wanted to expose the enemy...well that's Hollywood for you.
Think how many innocent lives that soldiers see lying in ditches, wounded, starving and so forth due to war, and your frustration of not being able to help, but to just continue doing your duty and leaving the rest to the meds.
Our Lord does have mercy. He was putting his life in a threatening envirement.
I will not judge this man, why should I, I was not there or in the same situation, but yes it is terribly sad, but I will not judge this man...had not the photos been made public neither would the circumstances of what was going on there been known, but possibly still hidden.
Nothing glamorized in War stricken, poverty stricken countries...so terrible yes.
God has mercy, thank God
you could ask the same questions over and over again and not get an answer that would satisfy your compassionate heart....he did what he could that's all he could do I beleive...
Messiahiscoming
YES HE IS....the Alpha and the Omega
BEATITUDES
BEATITUDES
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Messiahiscoming
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Amen. How can this continue?
Very sad indeed. I keep dreaming about them every night. Why cant countries and people help them. Why cant they give them food and other necessary items? Why do we let them suffer like this? What is UN good for?. I have got plenty of question to ask but none will listen to it.
QUOTE(WhiteKnight @ Mar 22 2006, 12:28 PM)
Very sad indeed. I keep dreaming about them every night. Why cant countries and people help them. Why cant they give them food and other necessary items? Why do we let them suffer like this? What is UN good for?. I have got plenty of question to ask but none will listen to it.
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God hears you, White Knight! Have no fear. HE sees what is happening to his children. There are several churches here in the US that are trying to send aid to Africa. I believe that there is aid from many organizations and other governments trying to get the aid packages into the hands of the poor and suffering people. Unfortunately, the African government and many of the militants block the much needed aid. We need to ask GOD to make the way clear for the aid to reach the one's that need it most. It breaks my heart to see such things happening as well.
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QUOTE(G Horse @ Mar 21 2006, 11:47 PM)
bill gates gave a little of his welth on top but how much dose he give underneath the table?damed choices damed if you do and damed if you dont leaders are in the spotlight pray for them vigeracely when you have limited resorses you must prioritize and make the best out of a bad situation the jew took some beasting in the sec end world war
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G Horse, I'm not sure what your post has to do with the photographer....???
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in order for soloman to serch out wisdom he had to serch out madness
we see sufering in the world and dont understand it it is a message from God what is the wisdom in sufering we need all the Keys to open up the Kingdom a scroll is the key to open anouther scroll which opens another scroll let all the keys come into place
by the power of the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ amen
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I believe that there is aid from many organizations and other governments trying to get the aid packages into the hands of the poor and suffering people. Unfortunately, the African government and many of the militants block the much needed aid.
Exactly, everyone screams that something needs to be done. The UN is useless unless we(The United States) takes charge. But when we do get involved all we hear is how we should mind our own business. They're more than happy to take our money and food but not willing to let us make sure the stuff actually gets to where it is needed. Instead it usually goes to some local warlord to strengthen his authority over the population.
Oh my dear Lord, I am crying out again.
Oh how can anyone leave that child there and do nothing.
Take a picture and walk away. Sorry but I don't get it.
How can anyone walk away from that.
Lord Jesus, how much longer do they suffer.
Oh how can anyone leave that child there and do nothing.
Take a picture and walk away. Sorry but I don't get it.
How can anyone walk away from that.
Lord Jesus, how much longer do they suffer.
The sad truth in the Sudan is that they were taking women and children slaves. When they became useless, they were left to defend for themselves. The war, slavery, starvation, lack of food and water, are a sad reality. Death becomes the relief. Yes, we need to pray, and to help these poor people anyway we can.
Here is one church making an effort:
I am sure that there are other churches also reaching out in ministry to the Sudan people. May the LORD bless them as they reach those in need. Amen.
Here is one church making an effort:
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Sudan
Bridge of Hope Missions and Pastor Parsley have been particularly touched by the tragic plight of the people of Sudan. His untiring efforts and the compassionate giving of our Breakthrough Partners and friends have been instrumental in:
The passage of the Sudan Peace Act.
Freeing 18,400 Sudanese Christian slaves to be returned to family and loved ones.
Providing 2.5 million pounds of food.
Providing over $3.25 million worth of medical supplies.
Over 4000 survival kits that include a month's supply of food, tarp, wool blanket, mosquito new and cook pot.
The construction of 2 clinics that will double as churches and distribution centers for our relief.
Please pray for our Bridge of Hope Partners in Sudan, who are risking their lives every day to help ease the suffering of our Sudanese brothers and sisters in Christ.Click here to support our ongoing efforts in Sudan and around the world.
http://www.breakthrough.net/bridge.aspBridge of Hope Missions and Pastor Parsley have been particularly touched by the tragic plight of the people of Sudan. His untiring efforts and the compassionate giving of our Breakthrough Partners and friends have been instrumental in:
The passage of the Sudan Peace Act.
Freeing 18,400 Sudanese Christian slaves to be returned to family and loved ones.
Providing 2.5 million pounds of food.
Providing over $3.25 million worth of medical supplies.
Over 4000 survival kits that include a month's supply of food, tarp, wool blanket, mosquito new and cook pot.
The construction of 2 clinics that will double as churches and distribution centers for our relief.
Please pray for our Bridge of Hope Partners in Sudan, who are risking their lives every day to help ease the suffering of our Sudanese brothers and sisters in Christ.Click here to support our ongoing efforts in Sudan and around the world.
I am sure that there are other churches also reaching out in ministry to the Sudan people. May the LORD bless them as they reach those in need. Amen.
Franklin Graham's Samaritan's Purse is also helping in that area.
I think this is correct.
I have heard some of Franklin's work in that area.
Does anyone know more?
We truly must thank God for our blessings. Never take anything for granted!
Thanks Tigger for sharing that.
I think this is correct.
I have heard some of Franklin's work in that area.
Does anyone know more?
We truly must thank God for our blessings. Never take anything for granted!
Thanks Tigger for sharing that.
You know, seeing the picture of that child takes your breath away...truly.
Even if the photographer was told not to touch the child for fear of disease, for God's sake, put on a surgical mask, or cover your face with something and ask somebody near for gloves or something. If you are scared of this, fine...but help the child, no matter what. He obviously found time to take a photograph.
I do not feel a kind regard toward this person, yet he, like anybody else can be forgiven and that child suffers no more.
....Unfortunately, his suicide puts an end to his salvation. He died leaving a note saying that "if he's lucky", he'll end up where his wife is. Who knows where that is?
Needless to say, his luck ran out, eternally, in my view. It's very sad.
Even if the photographer was told not to touch the child for fear of disease, for God's sake, put on a surgical mask, or cover your face with something and ask somebody near for gloves or something. If you are scared of this, fine...but help the child, no matter what. He obviously found time to take a photograph.
I do not feel a kind regard toward this person, yet he, like anybody else can be forgiven and that child suffers no more.
....Unfortunately, his suicide puts an end to his salvation. He died leaving a note saying that "if he's lucky", he'll end up where his wife is. Who knows where that is?
Needless to say, his luck ran out, eternally, in my view. It's very sad.
Shaun, you said everything that my husband said, when I showed him the picture.
We agree here.
Something should have been done, instead of just taking the picture.
We agree here.
Something should have been done, instead of just taking the picture.
O, God have mercy...
Let us note the times...and the seasons.
May they both in an instant be in the presense of the Father...
Let us agree in intercessory prayer for the Word to reach far into
the African continent...
Let us note the times...and the seasons.
May they both in an instant be in the presense of the Father...
Let us agree in intercessory prayer for the Word to reach far into
the African continent...
We do not know the final disposition of the photographers heart, only that the
pain of that reality forced a decision to end his life. No defense. We cannot
judge it...it is now in the hands of God. Pray for chains to be broken, the
weapons of our warfare are not carnal but high in God to the pulling down of
wickedness in high places. Darkness and wickedness are spiritual strongholds...
The picture is one of the saddest things I have seen in a long time, but we have
only to look to Katrina, right here and know the suffering still continues...
We have only to look at war, of any kind...poverty, drugs, political, cultural,
social, religion...
We have only to look to the past to see what the future could look like,
and our hope is for the grace of God to keep our eyes on Jesus, so that
we know our confidence is in Him alone...Pray for discernment...
God bless you.
pain of that reality forced a decision to end his life. No defense. We cannot
judge it...it is now in the hands of God. Pray for chains to be broken, the
weapons of our warfare are not carnal but high in God to the pulling down of
wickedness in high places. Darkness and wickedness are spiritual strongholds...
The picture is one of the saddest things I have seen in a long time, but we have
only to look to Katrina, right here and know the suffering still continues...
We have only to look at war, of any kind...poverty, drugs, political, cultural,
social, religion...
We have only to look to the past to see what the future could look like,
and our hope is for the grace of God to keep our eyes on Jesus, so that
we know our confidence is in Him alone...Pray for discernment...
God bless you.
QUOTE(RosielovesJesus @ Mar 23 2006, 12:36 AM)
Oh my dear Lord, I am crying out again.
Oh how can anyone leave that child there and do nothing.
Take a picture and walk away. Sorry but I don't get it.
How can anyone walk away from that.
Lord Jesus, how much longer do they suffer.
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Oh how can anyone leave that child there and do nothing.
Take a picture and walk away. Sorry but I don't get it.
How can anyone walk away from that.
Lord Jesus, how much longer do they suffer.
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A contrite spirit, shows compassion...Rosie we know that you have a good heart, and giving.
No one answered my questions. Soldiers are on the battlefield. There is suffering and injured everywhere. Say that no medics are around. Then the soldier gets orders to move out...to leave the injured and dying to their fate. HORRIBLY sad yes...but they have to follow orders or get court-martialed. I am sure many a soldier will pray next to the fallen...LORD our God, this breaks my heart, and they are in your hands our LORD.
If there are any soldiers reading this...GOD BLESS YOU, you did your duty and all you COULD DO...this ariticle puts a bad taste in my mouth.
But do we forget WHO IS THERE with the dying? You know as well as I that GOD IS WITH US, and THEM...if they receive Christ Jesus. In their dying moments, do we know WHO IS THERE WITH THEM? GOD IS WITH US, they can receive or deny him, Choice...prayfully we pray they follow into his Kingdom, and confess and he forgives. As far as suicide, I do not know, but still beleive the Presence of our Almighty God is with them...no matter what the condition of or the situation.
I talked with a mother and her son was in Iraq. He said children had no water or food, and the supplies where being blocked so they could not receive them.
He had food and water on him. He started to give this child a candy bar and the sargent told him he was not allowed??? Why I think to myself. Could he feed the multitude like Jesus did with the fish and bread? He could pray for God's hand to be with them, and give them a comforting word.
Then I see a program where soldiers say that they have no compassion even for the children on the streets of Iraq starving to death...Why, because their hearts have become so hardened after seeing soldiers a friend get blown to bits, after walking up to a child and giving them something to eat and the child has a bomb strapped to them. This soldier surely did not die in vain...he was reaching out, but the receiver gave him death instead...Sounds like Christ Jesus doesn't it?
Rosie, you know you cannot judge this man just on the grounds of what this artical says can you? It's ONE writers opinion and all the facts are not presented. How many innocent lives are in prisons, who have been wrongly convicted...many. You where not there, you do not know what was available. I would if food or water was available given the child some...but the artical doesn't point that out. If he tried to get the child to safety, how many miles would he have taken the child before the child possibly died and even the destination where he may have laid the child down could have not been any better than the spot they where...(and the possiblity if the child was diseased spreading that to another location??)they're in the middle of a desert I suppose, the artical doesn't say....it just leaves the reader with suggestions. For all I know the enemy could have written it..GOD knows, I know nothing, but speculations of what others have written. Don't you suppose that All these frustrating thoughts tormented him right then and there??? GOD HAVE MERCY, oh to see this horror and feel like your hands are tied behind your back, and then to be ridiculed after coming to a safe place and one's condemning you for revealing the pictures of the horrific state of this. It breaks my heart.
Frustrated and unable to help, yet still blaming himself I suppose was what he felt.
He could have stopped then and there and given the child a prayer. Who knows really the full story is not told. As far as him taking his life, he was tormented and troubled just like Hundreds of soldiers will be when they come home from battle....and that they just didn't do enough...ughhhh this makes me angry...sorry, but it's easy to stand on the side lines and throw stones while others are dying for for something they beleive in as saving others lives...WHO KNOWS, GOD KNOWS and he will judge justly.
God is the judge of our final judgment...please consider this. I don't condone suicide...but I do know God is the final judgment. War is Ugly, and terrible, and where he could go to be safe even with the child the artical (ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) DOES NOT SAY.
God's Blessings are Real...and God is merciful. and Faithful.
Oh Wernotalone, yes you are right.
I must admit the picture has haunted me too.
I know there are so many starving children and
\this is heartbreaking.
I truly would have to run and pick up that child.
This is my nature. Always has been.
I don't stop and think is it okay. I just would do it.
I'm not saying I do things right. I just think sometimes
we must act.
I suppose I was judging that man and for all I know he might have
picked up the child and took him to the food bank,right after the picture.
That is even too long!
This world is getting messier everyday.
Jesus said it would happen. I pray I hold on to Him.
I ask for forgiveness if I was judgemental on the photographer.
I did not for one second ever think that he is not in heaven.
For this I do not know. We do not know the state of ones mind.
\But God knows the heart and mind. He is our judge.
You are right Wernotalone,
sometimes I just get soooooo sad
and pray that I could do more.
Your post was very much welcomed here and gave us food for thought.
You are right we don't know all the facts.
But God does and we live it in His hands.
You could call me a loud mouth when it comes to certain isssues.
My compassion runs away with me and all I see is the hurting one
that needs help.
Lord help us all.
I must admit the picture has haunted me too.
I know there are so many starving children and
\this is heartbreaking.
I truly would have to run and pick up that child.
This is my nature. Always has been.
I don't stop and think is it okay. I just would do it.
I'm not saying I do things right. I just think sometimes
we must act.
I suppose I was judging that man and for all I know he might have
picked up the child and took him to the food bank,right after the picture.
That is even too long!
This world is getting messier everyday.
Jesus said it would happen. I pray I hold on to Him.
I ask for forgiveness if I was judgemental on the photographer.
I did not for one second ever think that he is not in heaven.
For this I do not know. We do not know the state of ones mind.
\But God knows the heart and mind. He is our judge.
You are right Wernotalone,
sometimes I just get soooooo sad
and pray that I could do more.
Your post was very much welcomed here and gave us food for thought.
You are right we don't know all the facts.
But God does and we live it in His hands.
You could call me a loud mouth when it comes to certain isssues.
My compassion runs away with me and all I see is the hurting one
that needs help.
Lord help us all.
This picture surely puts our everyday problems into perspective doesn't it!!
Praise God, I am sure that little girl is by his side now enjoying the wonders of Heaven!
Praise God, I am sure that little girl is by his side now enjoying the wonders of Heaven!
[quote=RosielovesJesus,Mar 25 2006, 04:32 AM]Oh Wernotalone, yes you are right.
I must admit the picture has haunted me too.
I know there are so many starving children and
\this is heartbreaking.
I truly would have to run and pick up that child.
This is my nature. Always has been.
I don't stop and think is it okay. I just would do it.
I'm not saying I do things right. I just think sometimes
we must act.
I suppose I was judging that man and for all I know he might have
picked up the child and took him to the food bank,right after the picture.
That is even too long!
This world is getting messier everyday.
Jesus said it would happen. I pray I hold on to Him.
I ask for forgiveness if I was judgemental on the photographer.
I did not for one second ever think that he is not in heaven.
For this I do not know. We do not know the state of ones mind.
\But God knows the heart and mind. He is our judge.
You are right Wernotalone,
sometimes I just get soooooo sad
and pray that I could do more.
Your post was very much welcomed here and gave us food for thought.
You are right we don't know all the facts.
But God does and we live it in His hands.
You could call me a loud mouth when it comes to certain isssues.
My compassion runs away with me and all I see is the hurting one
that needs help.
Lord help us all.
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I know after all the thoughts that come to mind when seeing this picture...and we sort out all our doubts or confusion about what took place..that it still comes down to compassion Rosie...you have a loving heart.
When my husband and I where in Florida, and a hurrican came through, we found out that many people where injured after the storm. This mother and her children where walking down a street, and her children where walking in front of her.
They where walking in water and a live wire was down. She saw her children go towards this puddle, and she raced towards them to try to save them, but they all died. Your right Rosie, she didn't think but just in a moment of desperation and selfless love ran towards her children. I'm sure they are in rest with Jesus now
GOD BLESS YOU ROSIE...and the end of all our thoughts, we still come to compassion God knows your heart for sure.
I must admit the picture has haunted me too.
I know there are so many starving children and
\this is heartbreaking.
I truly would have to run and pick up that child.
This is my nature. Always has been.
I don't stop and think is it okay. I just would do it.
I'm not saying I do things right. I just think sometimes
we must act.
I suppose I was judging that man and for all I know he might have
picked up the child and took him to the food bank,right after the picture.
That is even too long!
This world is getting messier everyday.
Jesus said it would happen. I pray I hold on to Him.
I ask for forgiveness if I was judgemental on the photographer.
I did not for one second ever think that he is not in heaven.
For this I do not know. We do not know the state of ones mind.
\But God knows the heart and mind. He is our judge.
You are right Wernotalone,
sometimes I just get soooooo sad
and pray that I could do more.
Your post was very much welcomed here and gave us food for thought.
You are right we don't know all the facts.
But God does and we live it in His hands.
You could call me a loud mouth when it comes to certain isssues.
My compassion runs away with me and all I see is the hurting one
that needs help.
Lord help us all.
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I know after all the thoughts that come to mind when seeing this picture...and we sort out all our doubts or confusion about what took place..that it still comes down to compassion Rosie...you have a loving heart.
When my husband and I where in Florida, and a hurrican came through, we found out that many people where injured after the storm. This mother and her children where walking down a street, and her children where walking in front of her.
They where walking in water and a live wire was down. She saw her children go towards this puddle, and she raced towards them to try to save them, but they all died. Your right Rosie, she didn't think but just in a moment of desperation and selfless love ran towards her children. I'm sure they are in rest with Jesus now
GOD BLESS YOU ROSIE...and the end of all our thoughts, we still come to compassion God knows your heart for sure.
QUOTE(LemuelReyes @ Mar 21 2006, 06:55 PM)
Luk 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain [man] went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded [him], and departed, leaving [him] half dead.
Luk 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked [on him], and passed by on the other side.
The picture may also have been staged to give the desired effect.
[quote=wernotalone,Mar 25 2006, 06:40 AM]
[quote=RosielovesJesus,Mar 25 2006, 04:32 AM]Oh Wernotalone, yes you are right.
I must admit the picture has haunted me too.
I know there are so many starving children and
\this is heartbreaking.
I truly would have to run and pick up that child.
This is my nature. Always has been.
I don't stop and think is it okay. I just would do it.
I'm not saying I do things right. I just think sometimes
we must act.
I suppose I was judging that man and for all I know he might have
picked up the child and took him to the food bank,right after the picture.
That is even too long!
This world is getting messier everyday.
Jesus said it would happen. I pray I hold on to Him.
I ask for forgiveness if I was judgemental on the photographer.
I did not for one second ever think that he is not in heaven.
For this I do not know. We do not know the state of ones mind.
\But God knows the heart and mind. He is our judge.
You are right Wernotalone,
sometimes I just get soooooo sad
and pray that I could do more.
Your post was very much welcomed here and gave us food for thought.
You are right we don't know all the facts.
But God does and we live it in His hands.
You could call me a loud mouth when it comes to certain isssues.
My compassion runs away with me and all I see is the hurting one
that needs help.
Lord help us all.
[right][snapback]49157[/snapback][/right]
[/quote
I know after all the thoughts that come to mind when seeing this picture...and we sort out all our doubts or confusion about what took place..that it still comes down to compassion Rosie...you have a loving heart.
When my husband and I where in Florida, and a hurrican came through, we found out that many people where injured after the storm. This mother and her children where walking down a street, and her children where walking in front of her.
They where walking in water and a live wire was down. She saw her children go towards this puddle, and she raced towards them to try to save them, but they all died. Your right Rosie, she didn't think but just in a moment of desperation and selfless love ran towards her children. I'm sure they are in rest with Jesus now
GOD BLESS YOU ROSIE...and the end of all our thoughts, we still come to compassion God knows your heart for sure.
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Wernotalone, I thank you for your kindness. I know you have a loving heart too, for I see it in all of your posts.
God bless you,
love,
rosie
[quote=RosielovesJesus,Mar 25 2006, 04:32 AM]Oh Wernotalone, yes you are right.
I must admit the picture has haunted me too.
I know there are so many starving children and
\this is heartbreaking.
I truly would have to run and pick up that child.
This is my nature. Always has been.
I don't stop and think is it okay. I just would do it.
I'm not saying I do things right. I just think sometimes
we must act.
I suppose I was judging that man and for all I know he might have
picked up the child and took him to the food bank,right after the picture.
That is even too long!
This world is getting messier everyday.
Jesus said it would happen. I pray I hold on to Him.
I ask for forgiveness if I was judgemental on the photographer.
I did not for one second ever think that he is not in heaven.
For this I do not know. We do not know the state of ones mind.
\But God knows the heart and mind. He is our judge.
You are right Wernotalone,
sometimes I just get soooooo sad
and pray that I could do more.
Your post was very much welcomed here and gave us food for thought.
You are right we don't know all the facts.
But God does and we live it in His hands.
You could call me a loud mouth when it comes to certain isssues.
My compassion runs away with me and all I see is the hurting one
that needs help.
Lord help us all.
[right][snapback]49157[/snapback][/right]
[/quote
I know after all the thoughts that come to mind when seeing this picture...and we sort out all our doubts or confusion about what took place..that it still comes down to compassion Rosie...you have a loving heart.
When my husband and I where in Florida, and a hurrican came through, we found out that many people where injured after the storm. This mother and her children where walking down a street, and her children where walking in front of her.
They where walking in water and a live wire was down. She saw her children go towards this puddle, and she raced towards them to try to save them, but they all died. Your right Rosie, she didn't think but just in a moment of desperation and selfless love ran towards her children. I'm sure they are in rest with Jesus now
GOD BLESS YOU ROSIE...and the end of all our thoughts, we still come to compassion God knows your heart for sure.
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Wernotalone, I thank you for your kindness. I know you have a loving heart too, for I see it in all of your posts.
God bless you,
love,
rosie
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