Greetings of love for all of you!

Watch-out everybody, I realized after I was done writing this it turned-out to be another book. Oooops!

Read-on if you wish or skip it if your heart tells you to.

Hi Adstar, Simplebaby and K-Dad. Hi Francicso!

I can't leave! The pull that's drawing me back is irresistible. Here I'm thinking I have to go on to the next place to deliver the message, which I do but...

I forgot something obvious. In the old days you had to walk to where you were going and you couldn't be two places at once.

I told my wife I can't come back here because there are other forums and message boards where I have to post the message I've been commanded to deliver. She just looked at me with a little smile on her face and said nothing.

But being a questioner, I had to figure out why I'm drawn back here. Then I finally figured it out! Sometimes I'm really quick, but other times I'm reaaaallly slooooooow.

I don't have to walk there! I can go to anyone anywhere at virtually the speed of thought! I can talk to many people in many places at the same time! Duhhh! I can go on to the next place and be here too! We have the internet! My feet won’t get sore or my voice get raspy! I think he'll need to strengthen my typing fingers a little bit though!! I think my spelling ability might need a little Divine help too! Oh yeah, that’s right we were given spell check! Never mind.

As with all gifts, the internet can be used for good or bad by the way. I say this so you don’t think I would endorse the awful things you can find in it.

By the way, if anyone knows of other town squares and market places I can go to, I'd be happy to hear from you. The bad news is that if you send me there, I'll go but you still won't be rid of me here! Sorry about that.

I told my wife what I finally figured-out and she just smiled again and said "Yeah, I know honey. I already knew you couldn't leave there, and I knew you'd figure that out sooner or later."

That's why God made married people one flesh. They aren't two people with different God-given abilities any more. They're one, and the whole is much much greater than the parts! What an amazing blessing!

Anyway, here's the ole questioner at it again!

Do you think it's possible that a prophecy given in the old days and appears to be only intended to describe things of old could apply today? Could it be that these Divine books we have been given can apply in just about every way to us in this world at this time?

Here's another question. Is it possible that a prophecy that has been fulfilled will be again and maybe again? Each time being fulfilled on a greater scale?

Setting aside prophecy for a minute, could it be possible that events in the bible might keep happening over and over again, each time on a greater and greater scale?

If we consider the Jews for a minute, didn't they seem to go through the same cycle quite a few times? The cycle looks to be to be like this. God gives them laws and instructions for His purpose. They obey and they prosper. They get stronger and more blessed and none of their enemies are strong enough to lay a finger on them.

Then, for reasons they "think" are in their own self-interest, they start turning away from God's laws and instructions. They stop looking towards God and start looking towards themselves for law and guidance. Since God sees this and is unhappy that they are turning their backs on Him (understandably so I would think), he sends them a messenger.

God and Jesus are the supreme teachers. If the people aren't listening to the instruction given them, they must be corrected. Punishment comes after correction if the correction fails, again understandably so. In these times His punishment if it's necessary, is always mingled with mercy. If this were not so, He would have destroyed them utterly and completely. God loves us and does not want to destroy us!

So anyway, seeing the need for their correction, God sends them a messenger. The messenger tells them what they are doing wrong and what will happen if they don't listen. For some strange reason, they usually seem to reject the message. God really doesn't want to punish them, He loves them. Sometimes He sends them another massager and maybe another, but yet it seems to turn-out the same. They don’t want to listen. It’s because they’re used to their ways. They find comfort in them for some reason and they reject anyone who would tell them differently.

Then, seeing that they will not listen, He withdraws His protection from them. Their enemies are allowed to get very strong and their desire to destroy God’s people grows until it rages like a fire. God restrains their enemies just enough so that not all of God’s people get killed (mercy) but instead become slaves and also might be taken away from their homes. Because after all, either they serve God (call it bondage if you like) or they serve someone else as their slaves. By the way, I think slavery to God is a much better deal than slavery to someone else because if God is my master, I know He loves me. The work He has me do and not do is good for me and for others. In that way, I don't think it's really slavery at all, but think what you will.

“Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Mathew 11:29-30

Note Jesus doesn’t say there is no yoke, only that it is light and will give you rest for your souls.

This whole cycle then looks like this. Obedience and prosperity. Then turning away and lawlessness. Then messengers describing the problem. If that doesn’t work it’s punishment mingled with mercy. This goes on but ultimately the punishment isn’t mingled with mercy (destruction) with the obedient and faithful separated-out. The reason the last time around there’s no mercy is because there are so few people among them whose heart is not totally hard.

This whole cycle happens over and over until it reaches the point that the vast vast majority of the people aren’t going to learn no matter what and repeating the cycle is pointless. The unfaithful and disobedient will always look back on their old ways and long for them. They'll always think fondly of the days when they only thought about themselves. Because they do, they'll always return to their old sinful ways.

It is then that God sends mighty angels to destroy them utterly and completely. But before He does that, He sends that messenger again, probably two or even three. Also, the angel sent to destroy is held back from his work while other angels take-out the true lovers of God from amongst the people so they are not destroyed along with their disobedient brothers and sisters. Read about Lot. Check out your concordance in the back of your bible and read the references to law also if you like. Read about lawlessness and see if the references don’t come sometimes from the messengers that have been sent. I wonder if any of those messengers ever left out lawlessness as a reason there is a problem, or if lawbreaking wasn’t an issue they were concerned with.

Once that's done, the angel sent to destroy is released to do his awful task and utter destruction follows. These stories and this cycle do not end with Jesus becoming man. They continued after He returned to heaven to minister for us and to us.

So, if these stories don't apply to us and these prophecies have already been fulfilled and won't be again, then the bible is just a history book. A history book amongst the mountain of history books that we already have. Has anyone ever suggested to you that history repeats itself? I suggest to you that history repeats itself, prophecy repeats itself and parables have multiple interpretations with the same message throughout history. Prophecies and history repeat on an ever increasing scale.

If you don't think the bible is just a history book, I'll tell you where we are in this cycle.

In 2006, we are here in the cycle: We have reached the point where the scale of the event isn't with a town, it isn't with an area, and it isn't with a country. The scale we've reached in the cycle is the entire world and the entire human race. We are at a point in the cycle where God has concluded that there's no longer a reason to continue. Very soon, the righteous will be righteous still and the unrighteous will be unrighteous still and there are very very few people in the first category. The cycle of correction mingled with mercy has ended and the next correction will be unmingled with mercy and will yield utter destruction. The scale of this is the entire world.

As has happened before, the angels sent to deliver this destruction are being held-back. This will be so until the messages are delivered by the messengers God sends. As before at some point, the faithful who have heard the messages and obeyed will be separated out from the rest and not destroyed but saved.

This will be the final time for the cycle. Praise God and our Lord of Lords Jesus Christ that the cycle will finally end and never return.

Because my purpose is to deliver to you a message, the exact details of what happens next is murky and unclear to me. That is because it is not information I need to do my job. I never said I knew everything. We can debate for days about what order of things happen next or if or when there is a rapture and all the other details, but I cannot help you with that. I simply don't know. I can guess along with you, but of course my guess might not be as good as yours. How many messages come after the one I and others are giving you? I don’t know. How much time do we have? I don’t know but I can’t imagine it’s all that long.

I submit to you that you don't need to know either. You just need to know the message and obey. Use your faith in Christ and His saving blood to sanctify you. Then turn your back on sin and let Jesus Christ perfect you. That's what matters.

The message I came to give you is described and discussed in the post entitled “The Mark of the Beast”.

May the peace and love that comes from Jesus Christ be with all of you!

Welcome back David.

I did not expect you to stay away for long.

The OT scriptures are good for instruction and to show the will of God and they lay the ground work for the coming of the Messiah Jesus. I think the themes of the OT can be a shaddow or a type of fortelling of future events. But as for specific prophesies. No they are only fulfilled once the probelm comes when people see a fulfilled prophesy in the events of their day that was not related to the actual prophesy they deemed the event to be a fulfilment of.

Often many of these supposedly fulfilled prophesies are deemed fulfilled by an event that looks very similar to the event's foretold in the scriptures But upon closer "Holy Spirit guided" reading one can see that the event's only partially fulfilled the prophesy and many of the unfulfilled parts have been filled in by creative thinking or twisted interpretation to make the event fit the prophesy.

many people today even say that all the old testament prophesies have been fulfilled but those who are given understanding know that many of them have not been fulfilled yet.

As for the cycle you talked of, yes i agree that human beings are constantly falling down and it does seem to follow a familiar path. When people are rich and powerful they turn away from God but when disaster strikes people often turn to God for Help. Unfortunately its a part of our faulty human nature but not everyone is a hopeless pawn of the environment they find themselves in. Even in the most prosperous and decadent of time God still found some people who kept to their faith in Him and knew where their sustenance came from. We see it today in this world. many of the most serious Christian live under persecution from Christian hating regimes. While most of the luke warm good time friends of God live in the wealthy and relatively free nations of the world. But as i said before even in the better places of this world true Christians still exist. Just like in the city of Sodom God found and saved one who was rightious.


Ecclesiastes 1
9 That which has been is what will be,
That which is done is what will be done,
And there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which it may be said,

“ See, this is new”?
It has already been in ancient times before us.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

PS: this is a saying i like and i have seen it is true with the people of this world:

History: The only thing we learn from history is that no body ever learns anything from history.

Thanks Adstar! It's because I love you that I can't stay away from you.

Thanks for a good quote and good thoughts on the subject. It give us something to ponder. You're so right about not learning from history. Truer words were never spoken!

I often wonder about the persecution of the faithful that you were talking about. People living under the rule of governments unfriendly to them to say the least. I wonder if their persecution purifies them or if their purity causes others to want to persecute them. It seems like a little bit of a puzzle. Sounds like a good topic for a post huh?

I hope you have a safe and blessed day today Adstar!

Oh yes, history definitely repeats itself, in a greater magnitude each time-

Look at New York City. A while ago some one tried to, I think, fly a small plane into the WTC and failed. But that was just foreshadowing of something that came later...9/11. Then the WTC was completely destroyed by two even bigger planes (hence the greater magnitude). But that was only, YET AGAIN, foreshadowing. What's next? New York City itself will be destroyed by a nuclear bomb brought in by a ship (read Revelation chapter 18). And that will foreshadow what'll happen to the USA, it will be bombed and annihilated. And that will foreshadow this whole world being destroyed.

Note even the methods of transportation themselves growing in size!

Small plane (then)
Commercial airliner (then)
Ship

Interesting, isn't it? I've had the same things cross my mind about history going in an ever increasing cycle and the OT prophecies re-fulfilling themselves over time with a greater magnitude as well, as though the events that fulfilled those prophecies back then were foreshadowing for our times. I can safely say that history does go in an ever-increasing cycle, but I myself am not sure about the prophecies re-fulfilling themselves.

God's word is alive.
and full of power and relevance, in every age.

mr. david, i agree with you.

and adstar quoted what is true, from eccl.

crazyhayashi, there is something about you in your posts that i feel a kindred spirit, with you. May God bless you, crazy.
He loves us like crazy.

He is crazy in his love for us.

he sent his own son, to die, for us.

now, that is crazy love.

love ya like crazy.

bz

This also ensures every generation the opportunity to come to the Lord and recieve his wonderful gift of salvation through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!

Hi my brothers and sisters! I love you all!

What a joy it is to hear from two friends who are blind and crazy! This is not a slight, not at all! For in the last days I'm certain that almost anyone who speaks truth will be called blind and crazy!

If everyone calls you that, you must getting something right!!!

I agree with you folks. I thought I'd throw something out here for everyone to kick around.

Instead of the next scale being a ship, and New York how about a gigantic and devastating tsunami and the entire east coast of the US.

Consider this. There is an island, off the west coast of Africa. It's sort of long and narrow shaped. It's not huge or anything. I can't remember the name of it but Canary or some bird maybe. Someone will know though, so not to worry.

Anyway, there's a seismic fault line running down the middle of it, down it's length. So, any moderately strong earth quake in its vicinity will cause the entire western side of this island to slide violently into the sea. This is many millions of tons of rock we're talking about here.

It is configured in such a way as it lies on a map so that the huge tsunami it will generate will be directed at the US east coast. I'm talking waves hundred of feet high moving an truely scary speeds.

This will happen.

My advice to anyone living within many miles of the US East coast should think about moving. Do what you want with this. But this island is real. Its fault line is real. Many seismologists have said it's not a matter of if, but of when.

Something to kick-around!

I love you all!

Uh oh.... I'm only a couple miles from the oceanfront. Maybe I can talk my husband into moving to the mountains. No surfing, but we can snowboard! yippee!

Blessings to all!!
Lord give us strength, courage and the wisdom to know when to RUN!!

Love, Lisa

Sorry everyone.... It seems I'm in a bit of a goofy mood tonight.

Maybe both are true. Persecution purifies as well as purity causing others to persecute. Its like the old egg and chicken riddle., what came first the egg or the chicken? Well in this case purity came first in the form of the Word of God. Once the Holy Spirit started doing its work the worldly have attacked its work.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

The Island is La Pamia it is a part of the canary islands of the north east coast of Africa.

From http://www.ing.iac.es

Let
Volcanic activity on the Canary Isles could send a tidal wave to devastate Florida.

Phillip Henry monitors the changing shape of La Paima

The Independent - Monday 24th June 1996
It reads like the plot from a disaster movie. Florida is devastated by a tidal wave tens of metres high. The destruction and loss of life is immeasurable. The wave which caused so much devastation crossed the Atlantic in just a few hours, unseen until it reached the American coast. Its source is an unstable geological fault on the Canary Isles, more usually thought of as an idyllic holiday destination of thousands of European tourists than as the cause of disaster.

To ensure such a scenario remains in the realms of Hollywood, a group of British scientists recently travelled to the Canaries. By monitoring the fault which threatens to create the tidal wave, they hope to predict any hazard long before it could happen.

In the middle of the ocean, these waves of mass destruction - called Tsunami - are almost invisible. Only when they reach the shallow waters around coasts do they become huge breakers.

The ruin caused by even a relatively small one can be apocalyptic. When the Krakatoa volcano blew itself to pieces in the last century, a tsunami six metres high killed 30,000 people.

Tsunami can also be generated when a huge landslide falls into the sea. This has never been seen in historical times but scientists have now identified the island of La Palma as a potential hazard.

"There is a danger that the side of the volcano facing west may fall into the Atlantic," says Professor Bill McGuire of the Centre of Volcanic Research in Cheltenham, who was part of the recent expedition.

"It could literally happen during the next few weeks or months or years," he said. "Equally, it could happen 100 years or more into the future. The island is very unstable and this is something which could happen fairly soon."

La Palma is not only the steepest island in the world but has also been the most volcanically active of the Canary Isles in the past 500 years. There have been two eruptions on the island this century alone - the last one was in 1971.

The volcanoes themselves do. not present much danger. La Palma lava moves so slowly that most people could easily outrun it, so there is no cause for anxiety to the many tourists who visit the island. The real danger lies in the possibility that an eruption might trigger the collapse of a volcanic ridge which is unsound.

The problems started when an eruption in 1949 caused several cubic kilometres of rock to slide a few metres toward the sea. This also opened a two-kilometre-long fracture which can quite easily be seen to this day.

There are not only fears that a future eruption would cause the rock to move again, but that next time, the landslide will not stop. If this happened, the resulting tsunami would be catastrophic.

"There have been three of these collapses in the history of the island," says Juan Carlos Carracedo of the Spanish National Research Council. Not only does the landscape bear the scars of these cataclysms but submarine photos show rock from the peaks of old volcanoes far out to sea. "Another collapse is impending. The only way to prevent this hazard is to study the island closely."

By monitoring the change in shape of the mountainside, the team hope not only to discover if the western flank is slipping due to gravity but to predict if the sleeping volcano is growing restless. Before eruptions, volcanoes always swell. This swelling may be imperceptible to the human eye. Only by surveying the shape of the ground with sensitive instruments can small changes be detected.

The team of scientists used a system called electronic distance measuring (EDM). By bouncing an infra-red beam off a mirror on another ridge of the volcano and timing how long the beam takes to return, the EDM can be used to measure distances to an accuracy of a few centimetres per mile.

In late 1994, scientists set up a network of stations on the mountainside and accurately measured the distances between them. After one and a half years, they returned to measure the network again. If the distances between the stations had become greater over that period. this would suggest that either the fault had slipped or the ground was bulging as molten rock inflated the volcano.

For the moment, results show there has been no movement. While the rest of us might breathe a sigh of relief, the measurements are highly valuable to the scientists because they give them a "baseline", illustrating the behaviour of the volcano under normal conditions.

Should future studies reveal that the volcano has deviated from this, the prospect of the cast coast of America being flooded by a wave from the other side of the Atlantic may turn from fiction to horrifying reality



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Right back at ya

Crazy

Blind and crazy are kindred spirits... Just having some fun...

Hello,

I was drawn to this post by the title...I did read the first post. I have a question for anyone with a thought to this...Doesn't it somehow seem like we are now heading backwards in the biblical order of things...Like the Lord said these days would be like peoples living back in the time of Noah, well, the sanhedrin has instructed into law the old "Noahide laws", which is kinda odd, and then after the world goes through ultimate sin and soon to come destruction, like just before the flood...which is the way "human kind is heading"....and then after the tribulation, when the Lord the Kings of Kings sits upon the throne....the people inhabiting the earth one might assume they, since they can talk to Jesus personally whenever they want to, they would be like the original pair Adam and Eve who also got to enjoy constant time with the Lord....Does that make any sense? So, right now it is like history is repeating itself but more like a count down to the end of the world as we now see it...Any better? Well, I gave it a shot! I just had been thinking on that, I don't even know why, sorry if it makes no sense, don't worry about it! Sometimes I prone to think out loud, yup, even on a board! your sister, hannah

That's what we like about you Hannah! Same thing with Mr. David!! Great spirits!!

Love you guys, keep it up!

History repeats itself...Yes!

My Darling Hanna and Marta, how dearly I love you.

You're so right Hanna, your eyes are so sharp. It sure does look like in a moral sense we're going backwards. I rememeber when I was kid my Dad would say something about the world and a handbasket! I just rolled my eyes at him of course.

What seems so remarkable is how fast we're sinking morally. A few nights ago I watched about 10 minutes of American Idol. I really detest just about every single program I see on most TV channels, and of course the ole Idol I destest especially. By the way, I wouldn't blame the TV company completly. They put on what we want to see. If we wanted the walton's and little house on the prairie, they'd put it on. We don't want it so they don't put it on. Art imitates life.

Here we have people who go on TV and accept very cruel public humiliation. The judges line-up to hurt the contestants deeply inside with their words. Why would someone subject themselves to such humiliation? Because they're chasing fame and fortune of course! That's right, they'll go through anything hurtful so they can be rich and famous! They must read every day about rich and famous people whose lives are the picture of perfection and happiness. Yes, this fame and fortune will solve everything and give me bliss! That's why almost everyone will do anything for it. We're being tricked into heading downwards. Someone is tricking us.

We're definately heading down morally. If we were heading up, there would be to end to it. THere's no ceiling above us to stop us from moving upwards. There is a bottom though. There's a point where we can sink no further. I wonder what happens when we hit bottom.

Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it [is that] which shall be; and that which is done [is] that which shall be done: and [there is] no new [thing] under the sun.

Amen to that, talk about nothing new under the sun. This generation can't think of anything new! Have ya' noticed in almost every media venue....They are just repeating and repeating old tv shows, songs and especially movies...Did we really need movies like The Dukes of Hazzard, and how about Bewitched, or about a million others? Old TV shows made into movies....man "nothing is new under the sun" especially these days...What ever happened to using ones IMAGINATION? No, they instead just copy what others have already done, and things that are so usless to even have watched the first time around! good Scripture! Thanks maz, hannah

I sooo agree Mr. David! I thought the baby boomers generation "had covered each and every sin and in large outright quatities"! Boy, was I wrong, I thought I had heard and seen it all....until I talk to young adults and teens!!! Don't even ask! Here's just a tiny tale of a young lady, using that term loosly...by the age of eleven she was living with a thirty five year old as his girlfriend...she is now twenty two and is a stripper....and those were just some of the nicer things she was into, I know her mom, and she just gave up on her own daughter, and trust me this poor woman tried everything she knew to do...KIDS!!!

But, now think about this...this is not the only young lady I have spoken to about the "new sexual thinking"....most of them "think what she did...and how they live at eleven "getting involved with boys, physically" is just Find and Dandy. Afterall, didn't our president tell them....I did not have sexual relations with that woman...now they all think if you didn't do the one deed, IT'S ALL GOOD!

And, so the ball rolls on! Glad the Lord is in charge, AMEN! your sis, hannah to all!

Mr. David you truely are one who glorifies the most high. you speak what we all know, yet still helping others see what must be understood. praise the lord and his consistancy that he may save all that he may.

rev. 22
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, bright as crystal, going forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb:

i believe this one backs up your statement Mr. David
2in the midst of its broad place, and of the river on this side and on that, [is] a tree of life, yielding twelve fruits, in each several month rendering its fruits, and the leaves of the tree [are] for the service of the nations

this one speaks of the messngers
6And he said to me, `These words [are] stedfast and true, and the Lord God of the holy prophets did send His messenger to shew to His servants the things that it behoveth to come quickly:

i would like to make a suggestion. Is it not true that in all things God tells us that God is right and everything else is wrong. So if there is one thing that makes everything else work would that one thing not be the Most incorrect of them all. Now i speak to the wise destinguish that which makes the world go round. what is the one thing that has placed itself within the temple of GOD & caused most but luckily for the few not all of the lambs to fall away? I say this only that you may turn away from this world for the time is now there are no more chances. I speak to you who call yourselves the Childeren of the Most High, and command you for your sakes and the sakes of those you love, Turn your backs on this evil sick desiesed world, throw everything that belongs to the world away. No longer are you slaves to this world now throw away that which makes you its slaves. THAT WHICH RUNS THE WORLD IS SIN AND SIN IS RULED BY THAT WHICH SIN LOVES. what does man love turn away i send an urgent plea

12And lo, I come quickly, and my reward [is] with me, to render to each as his work shall be;
14`Happy are those doing His commands that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of the life, and by the gates they may enter into the city;
15and without [are] the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the whoremongers, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and every one who is loving and is doing a lie.
16`I, Jesus did send my messenger to testify to you these things concerning the assemblies; I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star!
17And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come; and he who is hearing -- let him say, Come; and he who is thirsting -- let him come; and he who is willing -- let him take the water of life freely.
18`For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,
19and if any one may take away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the scroll of the life, and out of the holy city, and the things that have been written in this scroll;'
20he saith -- who is testifying these things -- `Yes, I come quickly!' Amen! Yes, be coming, Lord Jesus!
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [is] with you all. Amen.

so i speak to you as the representatives of the MOST HIGH to this world. Live as he who was in the beginning and will be at the end. Make sure that all that you know is right is you in every way. do not be found asleep because he is shouting a command be quick to meet it. he who is in us is greater than he who is in the world and he who is IN us is about to come as quick as THE SPEED OF LIGHT