Shalom everyone,

I am posting these dreams together because they are some how connected.

I had a dream on 5-23-05 about the Caspian Sea.
Before this dream I didn't even know that there was a Sea called by that name, nor did I know what a nautical mile was.
I found the sea on a globe and I thank God for spell check because I was able to find out what a nautical mile is.

Here is the dream-- I think that the house I was in was mine in the dream, but not sure. Anyway, There was a lot of people there and I was watching everyone mingle with each other. Then all of the sudden what I saw I will try to describe.
It was a man, but darkness covered him. I started wondering how he got in here without me seeing him.
The next scene seems more like a vision in the dream, this is the only way I can think to describe it. I believe it is the man who is with me in a lot of my dreams who was talking to me. Anyway, I heard him say, " They picked him up on the Caspian Sea and something about 12 nautical miles." As he is talking to me I am seeing things, like a map of the sea with a dot on it to pin point where they picked the man up at. Then I saw the ones that the man covered in darkness came in with, saw them talking together.
It seems like the ones he came in with was supposed to be in the house! Then, the man covered in darkness started walking toward where I was standing. As he was walking I saw him open his coat and a second man covered in darkness came out of his chest !
This is all I remember, I believe this is when the dream ended.

June 22, 2005.
I dreamed that I was standing outside talking to the man that is in a lot of my dreams. He handed me a thin blue circle, it was rough and written on it was Iran in black letters.
As I was looking at the circle the dream that I had about the climate of the nations came to mind. I remembered looking at the rock with all of the names on it in that dream. So I asked him if this is where they picked him up at on the Caspian Sea, he said yes. Then I asked are these dreams connected?
He said they are all connected. end of dream?

As I was looking for the dream about the climate of the nations, a picture came to mind of the rock in that dream. I saw Russia and Iran written beside each other. Then a picture from the dream of the Caspian Sea , I saw the man covered in darkness that started walking toward where I was standing. As he was walking I saw him open his coat and a second man covered in darkness came out from him.

This is what I have found when looking for the climate of the Nations dream.

8-1-04 -dreamed- I was walking on a beach with some people. And out of the corner of my eye I saw a huge splash and heard a loud rumble. I thought at first in the dream that something fell into the ocean & made the HUGE splash. At first I thought it was a bomb, but then thought no, it couldn't have been, because it came from UNDERNEATH the water. This is all I remember.


Date Posted: 08/02/2004 1:31 AM

I dreamed that I was standing on the beach by an ocean. In front of me was a very large rock several feet high. It was labeled with the names of several nations, & Hawaii. I remember Russia & America, but there was a bunch of names. A man was standing beside me, I could see his clothing which was layered white then blue. He was telling me about each area & what the climate is going to be like in the coming months. Like Hawaii is going to be colder than normal & something about September. Then I woke up .

There was a blue circle by Hawaii That the man told me to touch, when I did it was rough like & ICE COLD! Then I said to him," It is going to be much colder!" The other thing I remember is that the names were written all around the rock, because we walked around the whole thing.


Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004
I was walking on the beach looking at the ocean. I'm going to try to put into words what the water was doing. Raging keeps coming to mind, only it wasn't waves, more like violently percolating high in the air. I walked along the beach & came to an area where the water was still calm and there was people swimming. i started telling people to get out before the water turns violent here, I pointed to where the raging water was & they could see that it was coming. I seen that 2 of my young children { Daniel and Christian] were in the water some, so I told them to get out! As I was watching my kids & others get out, I seen that the water was looking different. When I focused in I saw square blocks of ice, they were transparent so they blended into the water, there were100s of them. One started heading toward my daughter, I told her to hurry & then I grabbed her arm & jerked her out of the water before it could hit her. Dream changed a little, now I'm in the water pulling people out. Waves of water would wash over me. It was sooo real!! I know that there was others helping pull out the ones that were still in the water, I could feel it even though I couldn't see them.


Thank you for any help you can give with these.

May Yahweh wrap you in His sweet shalom.
In Him,
Bat Yah

Moving this up in the forum, since tensions with Iran are so high now...

Shalom flyingsquirrel

Thank you for moving this one up.

I have a question about replies-

I get notifications of replies on some and not others, does anyone know how i can fix this???

I don't want people to think that i'm just ignoring their replies to me

Thank you for any help you can give.

May Yahweh cover you in His sweet shalom. Amen.

Bat Yah

5-23-05 about the Caspian Sea

The Caspian Sea borders Russia territory and Iran
The second biggest petroleum reservoir after the Middle East is
the Caspian region.


Iran controls the Caspian Sea oil pipelines.

With a population of 66.1 million, an experienced military power,
and, most importantly, a strategic position on the Persian Gulf
and the Arab Sea, Iran is definitely the second most important
player, after Russia, in the evolving New Great Game in the
Caspian Region.

I think it is easy to point at Iran, but myself and others have
had dreams about Russia and I believe this is where the focus
of attention needs to be - RUSSIA.

Russia wants to ensure that most of the Caspian oil would go via its territories.

June 19, 1886 - The Oil wells on the Caspian Sea



The Caspian also has important fisheries. I can't recall where I read it or heard it, but there is a problem with obtaining caviar and this is probably because of this area in fishing.


The dream focus is upon OIL and I sense the Lord is giving us this focus
because we are going to make a change in our dependency upon oil and this is going
to come soon. Someone else had a dream not too long ago about this and I feel the
Lord is going to make changes. These countries have depended upon the oil and
now the United States will make a change that gives independence.

Also, focus on Russia for there is more than meets the eye. While the world looks at Iran, it is the underbelly of Russia that is making itself unknown and therein llies a danger to the world that is unseen with the naked eye.
your dream describes "a second man covered in darkness came out from him"
Beware your dream tells us the answer and no one is looking, because all eyes are upon the noisy leader of Iran while the slippery slime is in Russia - waiting, plotting, unnoticed.


8-1-04 and 08/02/2004 -dreamed: Earthquake that sets in motion a changes.

I, too, just had a dream that everything was spinning around, out of control.
Changes are coming.

[note: I am so getting attacked by evil as I am interpreting this dream, let the HOly Spirit protect me and the Lord's voice be heard ---]



Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 - a number of dreams people are now having is similar to
this one - water that is overwhelming people in some way, either Tsunami type waves, or floods, but they are all similar in that it is about WATER having some kind
of devesation.

I had a couple of dreams of Tsunami types of walls of water in the ocean, but
I interpreted them to mean that a wave of the holy spirit was about to hit certain
areas.


in your dream you called to people to get out of the water - there is an urgency in your actions, this dream is about protecting people from a disaster that is to come.....the sudden changes in the water, the ice that is not normal...this is going to be something that hits people out of the ordinary....I feel this is prophetic that the Lord is doing this, it's a wake up call, it is not about cleansing now...it's about end times.

Shalom ASC2,

This is just a quick reply to tell you thank you!!!

Another storm is fixing to hit { i'm in Texas} so i have to shut down my computer

You have helped A LOT!!!

I too had a earthquake dream in 2004. in it the land was changed and also there was a purple bag with gold Hebrew letters on it.

I will write more when the storms are over.

Thank you again!!!

May Yahweh bless you and cover you in His perfect shalom! Amen.

In Yahshua,
Bat Yah

Bat,

NAH....you say 'fixin' too!! HAH!! Love it!

I called my dad in the DFW area...he said you guys are finally getting a bunch of rain after that long drought! We'll be getting snow up here in Indy tomorrow evening!

You'll need boats, we'll need some snowmobiles!

It looks like Flying Squirrel's dream of the swans and yours of the of the Caspian Sea, BatYah, have come together:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060320/hl_af...an_060320115412

ASTANTA (AFP) - A dead swan infected with bird flu has been found on the shores of the Caspian Sea in Kazakhstan, the country's health minister revealed.

"Yesterday in the region of Maguistau we identified avian bird flu in a dead swan," Erbolat Dossayev told parliament on Monday, adding that tests were underway to check whether the swan had been infected by the H5N1 strain, which is potentially deadly to humans.

Dossayev said he was especially concerned since three people had apparently died from bird flu the previous week in Azerbaijan, which also borders the Caspian Sea.

An outbreak of H5N1 bird flu occurred in northern Kazakhstan last summer, resulting in the slaughter of thousands of domestic poultry. No human cases were reported at that time.

In February, the Kazakh government began vaccinating eight million domestic fowl ahead of the seasonal migration of wild birds, thought to be at least partially responsible for the spread of the disease.

Whoa......gotta bump this one up!

{{Shalom Marta}}

You are funny

i'm in the DFW area also
i pray everything is okay with your dad. A LOT of people lost their homes because of those storms

{{lifeinhim61}}

Shalom,

Thank you for posting that here!!
WOW! i read that dream and some others that i found, Yahweh IS so amazing!!!

Here are 2 articles i found after having the Caspian dream last year-

The pipeline that will change the world

The first drops of crude will snake their way along a pipeline that traverses some of the most unstable and war-ravaged countries on earth. This is the oil flow that was meant to save the West, and this morning the taps were turned on. Only 42 inches wide, the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan was supposed to alter global oil markets forever. The 1,000-mile project has transformed the geopolitics of the Caucasus and its impact is now being felt in the vastness of central Asia. Output is supposed to reach one million barrels a day - more than 1 per cent of world production - from an underground reserve that could hold as many as 220 billion barrels. Its architects and investors claimed the pipeline would shore up energy supplies in the US and Europe for 50 years, protecting our gas-guzzling way of life and easing our reliance on the House of Saud.
The goal of the ambitious project, which makes its tortuous way from the Caspian in Azerbaijan, through Georgia to the Mediterranean coast of Turkey, is to ease the reliance of the West on the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) and bring cheaper fuel to our filling stations. The pipe threads its way through the region in a seemingly modest private corridor only 50 yards wide but nothing has been allowed to stand in its way. From forests to labour laws and endangered species to democracy protesters: all have given way to the costliest and most significant pipeline ever built.The project, known as BTC, has driven a wedge between the US and Russia, triggered political unrest in the countries it passes through and their neighbours and sparked concern at extensive damage to the environment. Since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks in the US, concern at the West's dependence on Persian Gulf oil has intensified. For Washington, the opening is a cause for celebration. "We view this as a significant step forward in the energy security of that region," said Samuel Bodman, the American energy secretary, who stood next to the three heads of state at today's ceremony. With him at the pumping station controls was the president of the tiny former Soviet republic of Azerbaijan. The BTC has allowed Ilham Aliev to become a firm friend of the West while overseeing a government condemned for human rights abuses and sitting at the head of an administration placed 140 out of 146 in Transparency International's global corruption index.
The politics of the pipeline have also changed the face of Georgia, where the battle for control with Russia saw immense US influence deployed in support of the so-called "Rose Revolution". The popular protest ushered the American-educated Mikhail Saakashvili into power two years ago. Washington's new ties with Tbilisi were amply demonstrated when George Bush became the first US president to visit the country earlier this month. In the long-term US ally Turkey, where the pipeline crucially delivers its oil direct to the Mediterranean - bypassing the tanker-clogged Bosphorus straits, it is no accident that it does so right next to the American airbase at Incirlik. When big oil companies turned their attentions to the potential Caspian energy reserves released from behind the collapsing walls of the Soviet Union, the region was billed as the "new Middle East". If only the reserves could be securely transported from the landlocked sea to the Mediterranean, the West would be gifted a vital alternative to the volatile Persian Gulf and the region would be freed from the iron grip of Russia, which had previously monopolised the export routes of their former Soviet satellites. Once the Soviet empire fell, the Caspian found itself surrounded by five nation states - Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan, Russia and Turkmenistan.
The region's supply of cheap oil and key position on the historic border between the West and the East meant that countries quickly moved into position like pieces on a chessboard. Three rival plans were drawn up - a northern route through Russia, a southern alternative through Iran and the central option through the Caucasus to the Mediterranean. The winner could be in little doubt: the middle road was the only one which guaranteed Washington and its corporate allies a corridor of control. The US Vice-President thingy Cheney, who was then chief executive of oil services giant Halliburton, was among the first to be swept away in the excitement. "I cannot think of a time when we have had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian," he said in 1998. Now, more than a decade and $4bn (£2.2bn) later, almost three quarters of which came from bank loans which were underwritten by government agencies and £320m in taxpayers' money, the pipeline is open. But this chapter of what Rudyard Kipling called the "Great Game" - the secret battle to dominate central Asia - has only reached the end of its first phase. The fanfare at the British oil giant BP's gleaming new terminal at Sangachal in Azerbaijan may yet prove to be premature. Stripped of the American hype of the 1990s, the crude that began a very modest flow this morning is the first instalment of a reserve many analysts are now convinced is actually only 32 billion barrels - equivalent to that of a small Gulf player such as Qatar. The game now moves to the transCaspian pipeline and to the immense plains of Turkmenistan and the political cauldron of Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and beyond.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/s...tory=641172< /a>


Persia's appointment with destiny

Posted: July 22, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Hal Lindsey


Although hopes weren't very high for genuinely free elections in Iran, it was hoped that because Iran's single largest voting bloc consisted of people under the age of 30, whichever of the candidates allowed on the ballot was the most moderate would become the new president of Iran.
From the perspective of the West, the "worst-case" scenario they feared most was the return of Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, Iran's former president and one of the most hard-line candidates available, despite his campaign's efforts to portray him as a "moderate."
Rafsanjani was a member of the "moderately mad" variety of mullahs, a brutal hardliner who put down Iran's student rebellion using paid thugs to attack dissident groups and beat up dissidents. But given the overwhelming support Rafsanjani enjoyed among the other mad mullahs, who are the real governors of Iran, Rafsanjani became the odds-on favorite to win.
Indeed, the only choices available to Iranian voters were mad mullahs of the ruling Islamic sect and a few non-clerics whose genuine political views were hazy at best. None of the candidates could run unless approved by Iran's Islamic Governing Council, hence the phrase "moderately mad" to describe the most moderate offerings available.
Returning Rafsanjani to the presidency of Iran would have been a step backward for Iran's student democracy movement and any near-future thawing of relations between the United States and the Islamic regime. What they got was potentially much worse. If Rafsanjani was a "moderate reformer" (doubtful) the victor, Mahmud Ahmadinejad, is a hard-line conservative along the lines of the Ayatollah Ruhalla Khomeini, the rabble-rousing cleric who oversaw the Iranian revolution and the 1979 takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and the seizure and detention of the U.S. Embassy employees held hostage for 444 days.
What does the phrase "hard-line conservative" mean in the context of Iranian politics? Ahmadinejad was one of the founders of the Islamic Society of Students. During the Iran-Iraq War he joined Iran's Revolutionary Guard and reportedly participated in covert assassination operations of critics of Iran's ruling mullahs across Europe.
On the day after his election, Ahmadinejad announced that "Iran will strengthen ties with all countries except the U.S."
As for the United States, we will not be able to forge friendly ties with a country that is hostile to us. Doing this will be meaningless until Washington drastically changes its attitude toward Iran. Ahmadinejad said Iran "does not beware U.S. threats." He claimed that U.S. concerns over Iran's nuclear activities are groundless. "Possessing nuclear energy is the legal right of the Iranian people. We will be working to eliminate the drawbacks in the energy sector this way."
During his presidential campaign, Ahmadinejad criticized Iran's negotiators for making concessions to the Europeans – particularly freezing the nuclear program.
Upon Ahmadinejad's election, Iran's top nuclear negotiator (a reputed "moderate") abruptly resigned. Several days later, Iran officially denied Hasan Rowhani's resignation, and Rowhani later announced he will "stay on" until Ahmadinejad is formally inaugurated.
Thousands of years ago, the prophet Ezekiel foretold the rise of a vast anti-Israeli alliance, spearheaded by Russia with Iran as its principle partner. Just in this generation, Iran has gone from being a pro-Western U.S. ally to one of America's most implacable enemies. Russia is currently Iran's principle protector and supplier of nuclear materials for what will most undoubtedly become part of Iran's nuclear arsenal.
The only alternative to a nuclear Iran would be an Israeli first strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. Ezekiel described exactly this situation more than 2,000 years ago, and now, for the first time in history, all the players are on the same stage at precisely the right moment in history for Ezekiel's vision to become reality.

Coincidence? I don't think so.
Hal Lindsey is the best-selling author of 20 books, including "Late Great Planet Earth." He writes this weekly column exclusively for WorldNetDaily.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-...y.asp?ARTICLE_I D=45396

You are most welcome BatYah.

Wow! I also belong to another dream forum and it reminded me of a dream that I read- the blue circles and it was also about the climate change.

http://www.xsorbit4.com/users/commonbiblic...&num=1105372958

Shalom and welcome to the forum

That is my dream, i am a member there.
i signed up on that board in 2003 or 2004, but was off of it for a while because i started helping with another board that i am a member of

Sorry about that, i need to change my name over there to the new one i was given. i keep forgetting

May Yahweh bless you and pour out His wisdom upon you.

Hugs,
Bat Yah

LOL I had no idea

WHAT RUSSIA IS UP TOO:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apa...icle%2FShowFull

Shalom ASC2

Thank you for this link!

Have you seen this - - -

Russia Said to Deliver Arms to Iran

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/24/D8LJFE002.html

May you be blessed by Yahweh, in Yahshua's name, amen.

We are due for the polar manetism to shift from the North to the South... (pagan Science take with a grain of salt)

What would happen to us if the pole were to change to the Ring of fire centerish. The blue ring on my globe would be the new Artic ring right?

Interesting dream...

Bananna

QUOTE (BatYah @ Jan 20 2006, 03:23 PM)

Shalom everyone,

I am posting these dreams together because they are some how connected.

I had a dream on 5-23-05 about the Caspian Sea.

Before this dream I didn't even know that there was a Sea called by that name, nor did I know what a nautical mile was.
I found the sea on a globe and I thank God for spell check because I was able to find out what a nautical mile is.

Here is the dream-- I think that the house I was in was mine in the dream, but not sure. Anyway, There was a lot of people there and I was watching everyone mingle with each other. Then all of the sudden what I saw I will try to describe.

It was a man, but darkness covered him. I started wondering how he got in here without me seeing him.

The next scene seems more like a vision in the dream, this is the only way I can think to describe it. I believe it is the man who is with me in a lot of my dreams who was talking to me. Anyway, I heard him say, " They picked him up on the Caspian Sea and something about 12 nautical miles." As he is talking to me I am seeing things, like a map of the sea with a dot on it to pin point where they picked the man up at. Then I saw the ones that the man covered in darkness came in with, saw them talking together. It seems like the ones he came in with was supposed to be in the house! Then, the man covered in darkness started walking toward where I was standing. As he was walking I saw him open his coat and a second man covered in darkness came out of his chest !

This is all I remember, I believe this is when the dream ended.

June 22, 2005.

I dreamed that I was standing outside talking to the man that is in a lot of my dreams. He handed me a thin blue circle, it was rough and written on it was Iran in black letters. As I was looking at the circle the dream that I had about the climate of the nations came to mind. I remembered looking at the rock with all of the names on it in that dream. So I asked him if this is where they picked him up at on the Caspian Sea, he said yes. Then I asked are these dreams connected?

He said they are all connected. end of dream?

As I was looking for the dream about the climate of the nations, a picture came to mind of the rock in that dream. I saw Russia and Iran written beside each other. Then a picture from the dream of the Caspian Sea , I saw the man covered in darkness that started walking toward where I was standing. As he was walking I saw him open his coat and a second man covered in darkness came out from him.

This is what I have found when looking for the climate of the Nations dream.

8-1-04 -dreamed- I was walking on a beach with some people. And out of the corner of my eye I saw a huge splash and heard a loud rumble. I thought at first in the dream that something fell into the ocean & made the HUGE splash. At first I thought it was a bomb, but then thought no, it couldn't have been, because it came from UNDERNEATH the water. This is all I remember.


Date Posted: 08/02/2004 1:31 AM

I dreamed that I was standing on the beach by an ocean. In front of me was a very large rock several feet high. It was labeled with the names of several nations, & Hawaii. I remember Russia & America, but there was a bunch of names. A man was standing beside me, I could see his clothing which was layered white then blue. He was telling me about each area & what the climate is going to be like in the coming months. Like Hawaii is going to be colder than normal & something about September. Then I woke up .

There was a blue circle by Hawaii That the man told me to touch, when I did it was rough like & ICE COLD! Then I said to him," It is going to be much colder!" The other thing I remember is that the names were written all around the rock, because we walked around the whole thing.


Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004

I was walking on the beach looking at the ocean. I'm going to try to put into words what the water was doing. Raging keeps coming to mind, only it wasn't waves, more like violently percolating high in the air. I walked along the beach & came to an area where the water was still calm and there was people swimming. i started telling people to get out before the water turns violent here, I pointed to where the raging water was & they could see that it was coming. I seen that 2 of my young children { Daniel and Christian] were in the water some, so I told them to get out! As I was watching my kids & others get out, I seen that the water was looking different. When I focused in I saw square blocks of ice, they were transparent so they blended into the water, there were100s of them. One started heading toward my daughter, I told her to hurry & then I grabbed her arm & jerked her out of the water before it could hit her. Dream changed a little, now I'm in the water pulling people out. Waves of water would wash over me. It was sooo real!! I know that there was others helping pull out the ones that were still in the water, I could feel it even though I couldn't see them.


Thank you for any help you can give with these.

May Yahweh wrap you in His sweet shalom.

In Him,
Bat Yah

i wanted to add this dream and the article here so i can keep them all together

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4-2-06

This morning i was dreaming that Iran was shooting? at America, but in the dream i keep thinking it was bombs? and i knew that it had something to do with Israel. People were running trying to take cover.

There is more to this dream, but i am only remembering parts of it?

Like i was reading something in Hebrew, but i don't know why?

i need to get in prayer about all of this.

http://xsorbit29.com/users5/dreamery/index.php?topic=197.0

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U.S. Intel: Iran Plans Nuclear Strike on U.S.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman


Iran has carried out missile tests for what could be a plan for a nuclear strike on the United States, the head of a national security panel has warned.

In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee and in remarks to a private conference on missile defense over the weekend hosted by the Claremont Institute, Dr. William Graham warned that the U.S. intelligence community “doesn’t have a story” to explain the recent Iranian tests.

One group of tests that troubled Graham, the former White House science adviser under President Ronald Reagan, were successful efforts to launch a Scud missile from a platform in the Caspian Sea.

“They’ve got [test] ranges in Iran which are more than long enough to handle Scud launches and even Shahab-3 launches,” Dr. Graham said. “Why would they be launching from the surface of the Caspian Sea? They obviously have not explained that to us.”

Another troubling group of tests involved Shahab-3 launches where the Iranians "detonated the warhead near apogee, not over the target area where the thing would eventually land, but at altitude,” Graham said. “Why would they do that?”

Graham chairs the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack, a blue-ribbon panel established by Congress in 2001.

The commission examined the Iranian tests “and without too much effort connected the dots,” even though the U.S. intelligence community previously had failed to do so, Graham said.

“The only plausible explanation we can find is that the Iranians are figuring out how to launch a missile from a ship and get it up to altitude and then detonate it,” he said. “And that’s exactly what you would do if you had a nuclear weapon on a Scud or a Shahab-3 or other missile, and you wanted to explode it over the United States.”

The commission warned in a report issued in April that the United States was at risk of a sneak nuclear attack by a rogue nation or a terrorist group designed to take out our nation’s critical infrastructure.

"If even a crude nuclear weapon were detonated anywhere between 40 kilometers to 400 kilometers above the earth, in a split-second it would generate an electro-magnetic pulse [EMP] that would cripple military and civilian communications, power, transportation, water, food, and other infrastructure," the report warned.

While not causing immediate civilian casualties, the near-term impact on U.S. society would dwarf the damage of a direct nuclear strike on a U.S. city.

“The first indication [of such an attack] would be that the power would go out, and some, but not all, the telecommunications would go out. We would not physically feel anything in our bodies,” Graham said.

As electric power, water and gas delivery systems failed, there would be “truly massive traffic jams,” Graham added, since modern automobiles and signaling systems all depend on sophisticated electronics that would be disabled by the EMP wave.

“So you would be walking. You wouldn’t be driving at that point,” Graham said. “And it wouldn’t do any good to call the maintenance or repair people because they wouldn’t be able to get there, even if you could get through to them.”

The food distribution system also would grind to a halt as cold-storage warehouses stockpiling perishables went offline. Even warehouses equipped with backup diesel generators would fail, because “we wouldn’t be able to pump the fuel into the trucks and get the trucks to the warehouses,” Graham said.

The United States “would quickly revert to an early 19th century type of country.” except that we would have 10 times as many people with ten times fewer resources, he said.


“Most of the things we depend upon would be gone, and we would literally be depending on our own assets and those we could reach by walking to them,” Graham said.


America would begin to resemble the 2002 TV series, “Jeremiah,” which depicts a world bereft of law, infrastructure, and memory.


In the TV series, an unspecified virus wipes out the entire adult population of the planet. In an EMP attack, the casualties would be caused by our almost total dependence on technology for everything from food and water, to hospital care.


Within a week or two of the attack, people would start dying, Graham says.


“People in hospitals would be dying faster than that, because they depend on power to stay alive. But then it would go to water, food, civil authority, emergency services. And we would end up with a country with many, many people not surviving the event.”


Asked just how many Americans would die if Iran were to launch the EMP attack it appears to be preparing, Graham gave a chilling reply.


“You have to go back into the 1800s to look at the size of population” that could survive in a nation deprived of mechanized agriculture, transportation, power, water, and communication.


“I’d have to say that 70 to 90 percent of the population would not be sustainable after this kind of attack,” he said.


America would be reduced to a core of around 30 million people — about the number that existed in the decades after America’s independence from Great Britain.


The modern electronic economy would shut down, and America would most likely revert to “an earlier economy based on barter,” the EMP commission’s report on Critical National Infrastructure concluded earlier this year.


In his recent congressional testimony, Graham revealed that Iranian military journals, translated by the CIA at his commission’s request, “explicitly discuss a nuclear EMP attack that would gravely harm the United States.”


Furthermore, if Iran launched its attack from a cargo ship plying the commercial sea lanes off the East coast — a scenario that appears to have been tested during the Caspian Sea tests — U.S. investigators might never determine who was behind the attack. Because of the limits of nuclear forensic technology, it could take months. And to disguise their traces, the Iranians could simply decide to sink the ship that had been used to launch it, Graham said.


Several participants in last weekend’s conference in Dearborn, Mich., hosted by the conservative Claremont Institute argued that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was thinking about an EMP attack when he opined that “a world without America is conceivable.”


In May 2007, then Undersecretary of State John Rood told Congress that the U.S. intelligence community estimates that Iran could develop an ICBM capable of hitting the continental United States by 2015.


But Iran could put a Scud missile on board a cargo ship and launch from the commercial sea lanes off America’s coasts well before then.


The only thing Iran is lacking for an effective EMP attack is a nuclear warhead, and no one knows with any certainty when that will occur. The latest U.S. intelligence estimate states that Iran could acquire the fissile material for a nuclear weapon as early as 2009, or as late as 2015, or possibly later.


Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld first detailed the “Scud-in-a-bucket” threat during a briefing in Huntsville, Ala., on Aug. 18, 2004.


While not explicitly naming Iran, Rumsfeld revealed that “one of the nations in the Middle East had launched a ballistic missile from a cargo vessel. They had taken a short-range, probably Scud missile, put it on a transporter-erector launcher, lowered it in, taken the vessel out into the water, peeled back the top, erected it, fired it, lowered it, and covered it up. And the ship that they used was using a radar and electronic equipment that was no different than 50, 60, 100 other ships operating in the immediate area.”


Iran’s first test of a ship-launched Scud missile occurred in spring 1998, and was mentioned several months later in veiled terms by the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States, a blue-ribbon panel also known as the Rumsfeld Commission.


I was the first reporter to mention the Iran sea-launched missile test in an article appearing in the Washington Times in May 1999.


Intelligence reports on the launch were “well known to the White House but have not been disseminated to the appropriate congressional committees,” I wrote. Such a missile “could be used in a devastating stealth attack against the United States or Israel for which the United States has no known or planned defense.”


Few experts believe that Iran can be deterred from launching such an attack by the threat of massive retaliation against Iran. They point to a December 2001 statement by former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, who mulled the possibility of Israeli retaliation after an Iranian nuclear strike.


“The use of an atomic bomb against Israel would destroy Israel completely, while [the same] against the Islamic only would cause damages. Such a scenario is not inconceivable,” Rafsanjani said at the time.


Rep. Trent Franks, R, Ariz., plans to introduce legislation next week that would require the Pentagon to lay the groundwork for an eventual military strike against Iran, to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and EMP capability.


“An EMP attack on America would send us back to the horse and buggy era — without the horse and buggy,” he told the Claremont Institute conference on Saturday. “If you’re a terrorist, this is your ultimate goal, your ultimate asymmetric weapon.”


Noting Iran’s recent sea-launched and mid-flight warhead detonation tests, Rep. Franks concluded, “They could do it — either directly or anonymously by putting some freighter out there on the ocean.”


The only possible deterrent against Iran is the prospect of failure, Dr. Graham and other experts agreed. And the only way the United States could credibly threaten an Iranian missile strike would be to deploy effective national missile defenses.


“It’s well known that people don’t go on a diet until they’ve had a heart attack,” said Claremont Institute president Brian T. Kennedy. “And we as a nation are having a heart attack” when it comes to the threat of an EMP attack from Iran.


“As of today, we have no defense against such an attack. We need space-based missile defenses to protect against an EMP attack,” he told Newsmax.


Rep. Franks said he remains surprised at how partisan the subject of space-based missile defenses remain. “Nuclear missiles don’t discriminate on party lines when they land,” he said.


Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl, a long-standing champion of missile defense, told the Claremont conference on Friday that Sen. Obama has opposed missile defense tooth and nail and as president would cut funding for these programs dramatically.


“Senator Obama has been quoted as saying, ‘I don’t agree with a missile defense system,’ and that we can cut $10 billion of the research out — never mind, as I say, that the entire budget is $9.6 billion, or $9.3 billion,” Kyl said.


Like Franks, Kyl believes that the only way to eventually deter Iran from launching an EMP attack on the United States is to deploy robust missile defense systems, including space-based interceptors.


The United States “needs a missile defense that is so strong, in all the different phases we need to defend against . . . that countries will decide it’s not worth coming up against us,” Kyl said.


“That’s one of the things that defeated the Soviet Union. That’s one of the ways we can deal with these rogue states . . . and also the way that we can keep countries that are not enemies today, but are potential enemies, from developing capabilities to challenge us. “

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/iran_nucl.../29/117217.html

[b]FIRST i have to say that i am NOT saying that it was Obama that i seen in this dream.


i was just on The Drudge Report.com and seen this pic that made my heart stop!

This is as close to a visual that I've been able to find on what i seen in this dream