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Maz
What would be errant in the thought that we are even now in the middle of the falling away? It is not like every body goes to church every Sunday. Look at humanity as it is mirrored in the Timothy scriptures below...Are we deceived into thinking it will get a lot worse? Are we lulled to sleep by the pied piper theology?

2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all [men], as theirs also was.



"My Children, Do not hearken unto those that have confident pleasure in saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." They would tell you that everything is going to be fine, and they will try to lull you to sleep! Like a Pied Piper they will come and desire to lull you to sleep! But do not be caught sleeping! Be sober and be vigilant and stir up the gifts I have planted within you! Light your lamps and ensure that the wicks are trimmed and cleanly burning! The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord! My candle must blaze within you! Do not be as the foolish virgins, having no oil! Redeem the time for the days are evil! For your Lord cometh! I shall come in great power, and I shall come in great glory! The day is short and the hour is late, My people!.

I am preparing My bride! I am getting My church ready! Its time to wash your garments. Its time to cleanse and to purify your heart. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. It is time to cleanse your heart of double mindedness! It is time to remove sin far from you! My fan is in My hand, and I will thoroughly purge My floor, and gather My wheat into the garner; but I will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Who shall ascend to My holy hill? He that hath clean hands and a pure heart. Cleanse your life. Lay aside every weight and every sin that doth so easily beset you! Be ready, for no man knows the exact hour his Lord cometh!.

Do not be swayed by the things that shall happen in the earth. Nation shall continue to rise up against nation and there shall be wars and rumours of wars, and violence on every hand. The seas shall roar with perplexity and Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. But the powers of hell shall be open to plain view for every discerning believer! But do not let that sway you, for this is not your kingdom! Your kingdom is not of this world!

All of this must surely be, in order that the kingdoms of this world shall all pass away! For your kingdom is not of the earth; yours is the kingdom that shall not pass away. Yours is a new kingdom, a new heaven, and a new earth. For you have been bought with a price. You are not your own, but you are Mine saith the Lord. And I AM a jealous God! I have redeemed you from among men as first fruits unto God! And in your mouth shall be found no guile: for you are without fault before the throne of God.

For everything that you see shall come to nothing and be brought to naught. But, the glories of heaven beyond shall be made manifest on that day. It shall be made manifest as a kingdom that shall not pass away, a kingdom that shall live on forever, and forever.

Make sure that you do not strive to have your name on the roll call of men, but rather strive to have your name written in the Lambs Book of Life. For on that day it shall be declared that those names that are not found in the Lamb's Book of Life, those not found therein shall be thrown in the lake of fire.

This is also the day when the power and the glory of God will be made manifest in the church in ways that have not as yet been seen. This is the day when the true ministry of the apostles shall come forth. This is the day when the true prophets shall stand and boldly declare. This is the day when there shall come an increase in the anointing upon the servants that I have emplaced. And men shall fear when they walk into My gatherings, for the awesome, glorious presence of Almighty God shall be unto you as a light to the gentiles! Arise! Shine! For thy light hath come and the glory of the lord has risen upon thee!

The nine gifts of the Spirit shall be evident in full power and authority, and men shall not walk in title only, but shall come in sign and in wonder with quick words and mighty deeds. And you shall submit; you shall get in the flow. Because when you see My glory, you shall hear a word behind you saying, "This is the way walk ye in it!" No one shall need to convince you of it, for it shall be a witness within your heart, and you shall say, "Yes, this is the Lord! He is made manifest among us!" And the voice of wolves shall grow dim. The voice of strangers My sheep shall not follow, but they shall follow the voice of the Good Shepherd in this day and this hour.

Open your heart. Hearken! Listen to what The Spirit is saying! Listen to what the Holy Ghost is saying! Listen to what the Spirit of God says in this day and hour! I have yet many things to say unto you but you cannot bear them now. You could not possibly hope to assimilate all of that which I have given to you in this single moment of time.

For even that which has been shared already is beyond the comprehension of some, even to understand that which I am doing in this day and this hour. I will shake the easy believers from their pews of religiosity and I shall cause them to stumble in lack of preparedness and the sins of many shall be as though they were shouted from the roof tops, saith the Lord. But feast upon these things. Meditate upon these things and as you spend more time in My Spirit, I shall unveil and reveal more and more things unto you."


There is that virgins thing again...
onetiggerroo
QUOTE(Mazinaw @ Jan 18 2006, 11:18 AM)
What would be errant in the thought that we are even now in the middle of the falling away? It is not like every body goes to church every Sunday. Look at humanity as it is mirrored in the Timothy scriptures below...Are we deceived into thinking it will get a lot worse? Are we lulled to sleep by the pied piper theology?

2Th 2:2  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


2Ti 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2Ti 3:2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2Ti 3:4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 2Ti 3:5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2Ti 3:6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 2Ti 3:7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2Ti 3:8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 2Ti 3:9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all [men], as theirs also was.



"My Children, Do not hearken unto those that have confident pleasure in saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." They would tell you that everything is going to be fine, and they will try to lull you to sleep! Like a Pied Piper they will come and desire to lull you to sleep! But do not be caught sleeping! Be sober and be vigilant and stir up the gifts I have planted within you! Light your lamps and ensure that the wicks are trimmed and cleanly burning! The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord! My candle must blaze within you! Do not be as the foolish virgins, having no oil! Redeem the time for the days are evil! For your Lord cometh! I shall come in great power, and I shall come in great glory! The day is short and the hour is late, My people!.

I am preparing My bride! I am getting My church ready! Its time to wash your garments. Its time to cleanse and to purify your heart. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. It is time to cleanse your heart of double mindedness! It is time to remove sin far from you! My fan is in My hand, and I will thoroughly purge My floor, and gather My wheat into the garner; but I will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Who shall ascend to My holy hill? He that hath clean hands and a pure heart. Cleanse your life. Lay aside every weight and every sin that doth so easily beset you! Be ready, for no man knows the exact hour his Lord cometh!.

Do not be swayed by the things that shall happen in the earth. Nation shall continue to rise up against nation and there shall be wars and rumours of wars, and violence on every hand. The seas shall roar with perplexity and Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.  But the powers of hell shall be open to plain view for every discerning believer! But do not let that sway you, for this is not your kingdom! Your kingdom is not of this world!

All of this must surely be, in order that the kingdoms of this world shall all pass away! For your kingdom is not of the earth; yours is the kingdom that shall not pass away. Yours is a new kingdom, a new heaven, and a new earth. For you have been bought with a price. You are not your own, but you are Mine saith the Lord. And I AM a jealous God! I have redeemed you from among men as first fruits unto God! And in your mouth shall be found no guile: for you are without fault before the throne of God.

For everything that you see shall come to nothing and be brought to naught.  But, the glories of heaven beyond shall be made manifest on that day. It shall be made manifest as a kingdom that shall not pass away, a kingdom that shall live on forever, and forever.

Make sure that you do not strive to have your name on the roll call of men, but rather strive to have your name written in the Lambs Book of Life. For on that day it shall be declared that those names that are not found in the Lamb's Book of Life, those not found therein shall be thrown in the lake of fire.

This is also the day when the power and the glory of God will be made manifest in the church in ways that have not as yet been seen. This is the day when the true ministry of the apostles shall come forth. This is the day when the true prophets shall stand and boldly declare. This is the day when there shall come an increase in the anointing upon the servants that I have emplaced. And men shall fear when they walk into My gatherings, for the awesome, glorious presence of Almighty God shall be unto you as a light to the gentiles! Arise! Shine! For thy light hath come and the glory of the lord has risen upon thee!

The nine gifts of the Spirit shall be evident in full power and authority, and men shall not walk in title only, but shall come in sign and in wonder with quick words and mighty deeds. And you shall submit; you shall get in the flow. Because when you see My glory, you shall hear a word behind you saying, "This is the way walk ye in it!" No one shall need to convince you of it, for it shall be a witness within your heart, and you shall say, "Yes, this is the Lord! He is made manifest among us!" And the voice of wolves shall grow dim. The voice of strangers My sheep shall not follow, but they shall follow the voice of the Good Shepherd in this day and this hour.

Open your heart. Hearken! Listen to what The Spirit is saying! Listen to what the Holy Ghost is saying! Listen to what the Spirit of God says in this day and hour! I have yet many things to say unto you but you cannot bear them now. You could not possibly hope to assimilate all of that which I have given to you in this single moment of time.

For even that which has been shared already is beyond the comprehension of some, even to understand that which I am doing in this day and this hour. I will shake the easy believers from their pews of religiosity and I shall cause them to stumble in lack of preparedness and the sins of many shall be as though they were shouted from the roof tops, saith the Lord. But feast upon these things. Meditate upon these things and as you spend more time in My Spirit, I shall unveil and reveal more and more things unto you."


There is that virgins thing again...
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Thank you for the WORD of God and for the confirmation of something I was dealing with today. You have spoken in truth and in Spirit. May God continue to bless you as His instrument of His Word going forth....a mighty vessel indeed. 1dsz5e4.gif and so do I. wub.gif
Humble Bob
One thing that I had realized is that all of Christ disciples had a falling away before they came to terms with their actions. When Christ was taken away his disciples had scattered. Peter denied Christ three time before the cock crowed. And Judas perhaps had the greatest falling away for he had betrayed Christ. Paul's falling away was when he was confronted by Christ himself on the road.

It is as if the Lord's greatest disciples are called to fall away first before they are to follow him like no other have done before.

In the order of things from least to greatest that turns a persons existence, that the Lord will use to announce his glory.

One. Every knee shall bow before the Lord, the repentent and the "unrepentent"
Two. The believer who is broken on the stone that is Christ.
Three. The believer who is crushed to dust under the stone that is Christ.

Amen.

Love HB
Maz
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Jan 18 2006, 10:08 AM)
One thing that I had realized is that all of Christ disciples had a falling away before they came to terms with their actions.  When Christ was taken away his disciples had scattered.  Peter denied Christ three time before the cock crowed.  And Judas perhaps had the greatest falling away for he had betrayed Christ.  Paul's falling away was when he was confronted by Christ himself on the road.

It is as if the Lord's greatest disciples are called to fall away first before they are to follow him like no other have done before. 

In the order of things from least to greatest that turns a persons existence, that the Lord will use to announce his glory.

One. Every knee shall bow before the Lord, the repentent and the "unrepentent"
Two. The believer who is broken on the stone that is Christ.
Three.  The believer who is crushed to dust under the stone that is Christ.

Amen.

Love HB
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A unique thought, not so sure it is universal among the twelve but I see this on Thomas as well...

Before the crucifiction....

Joh 11:16 Then said Thomas, which is called Didymus, unto his fellowdisciples, Let us also go, that we may die with him.

After the crucifiction...

Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

Today there are many who "will not believe" I would say even if they have a sign...
Simple
John didn't fall away .

He stuck with Jesus through his trial

Paul and Peter were made strong in their weakness .

Paul turned from Chief among sinners to one of the main , if not the main , Apostles .
Peter denied Christ thrice ..........and Christ when resurrected told him to feed his sheep thrice .....

I guess Peter's guilt was turned into a positive .

From those who God has loved much ......much is expected
justaservant
QUOTE(simplebaby @ Jan 18 2006, 02:45 PM)
John didn't fall away .

He stuck with Jesus through his trial

Paul and Peter were made strong in their weakness .

Paul turned from Chief among sinners to one of the main , if not the main , Apostles .
Peter denied Christ thrice ..........and Christ when resurrected told him to feed his sheep thrice .....

I guess Peter's guilt was turned into a positive .

From those who God has loved much ......much is expected
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It is this falling away, that is breaking my heart! This is why I called for prayer for all the saints of God. It will be, because it has been prophesied, but I still believe that souls here and there can be saved by covering them with prayer and reaching out before the Day arrives.
Father God, cover all the saints, and don't let them be drawn away by the delusions! In Your Holy Name I pray!!
justaservant
Simple
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QUOTE(simplebaby @ Jan 18 2006, 02:45 PM)
John didn't fall away .

He stuck with Jesus through his trial

Paul and Peter were made strong in their weakness .

Paul turned from Chief among sinners to one of the main , if not the main , Apostles .
Peter denied Christ thrice ..........and Christ when resurrected told him to feed his sheep thrice .....

I guess Peter's guilt was turned into a positive .

From those who God has loved much ......much is expected






It is this falling away, that is breaking my heart! This is why I called for prayer for all the saints of God. It will be, because it has been prophesied, but I still believe that souls here and there can be saved by covering them with prayer and reaching out before the Day arrives.
Father God, cover all the saints, and don't let them be drawn away by the delusions! In Your Holy Name I pray!!
justaservant


you've lost me JAS
Humble Bob
QUOTE(simplebaby @ Jan 18 2006, 01:45 PM)
John didn't fall away .

He stuck with Jesus through his trial

Paul and Peter were made strong in their weakness .

Paul turned from Chief among sinners to one of the main , if not the main , Apostles .
Peter denied Christ thrice ..........and Christ when resurrected told him to feed his sheep thrice .....

I guess Peter's guilt was turned into a positive .

From those who God has loved much ......much is expected
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but he did. all of Christ disciples did. The Lord called them to be his disciples but first they had to fall away. It is how they were lead to repentance to such a depth they turned to the Lord when the son of perdition was revealed to them.
justaservant
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you've lost me JAS


Simplebaby,
I don't understand why you are lost. Talk a little more and I will do my best to explain.
justaservant
Simple
you quote me and say that it is this falling away that is breaking your heart .

Do you mean my post is breaking your heart ,
or
something about Peter and Paul ?
justaservant
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you quote me and say that it is this falling away that is breaking your heart .

Do you mean my post is breaking your heart ,
or
something about Peter and Paul ?


What is breaking my heart, is the falling away of the Church.

Mazinaw had this, which is part of the main topic.
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2Th 2:2  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."


There are so many that think that they are Christians and when trouble come they won't make it. (See Luke:13). This is all prophesied but if we could reach them before the Day of the Lord, We could save some. It is like a plant that is growing in bad soil, but has not yet died. If we could get that plant into good soil, it could be saved. Only prayer and doing what we can now, where we are can accomplish this.
justaservant
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