Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Jam 1:3 Knowing [this], that the trying of your faith worketh patience. Jam 1:4 But let patience have [her] perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

Heb 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.Heb 12:4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. Heb 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

I am being impressed upon to realize the largesse of disobedience in the arena of trusting God in every tempest of life. We are in the time of sorrows, and the waves are lapping the shores as we lean towards the next levels of an ongoing creep of the shadows which lengthen as the sun sets on the empires of man.

Not abiding under the shadow of the Most High leaves one aloof of faith. It is an element of not entirely being sold out to Christ.

Psa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Psa 91:2 I will say of the LORD, [He is] my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Psa 91:3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, [and] from the noisome pestilence. Psa 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wins shalt thou trust: his truth [shall be thy] shield and buckler. Psa 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; [nor] for the arrow [that] flieth by day; Psa 91:6 [Nor] for the pestilence [that] walketh in darkness; [nor] for the destruction [that] wasteth at noonday. Psa 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; [but] it shall not come nigh thee. Psa 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

I am guilty of this distrust. Last night in church the Lord ministered a new thing to my wife and I and it has grande scale implications which are totaly outside the envelope of our ability to perform. The days ahead will be an awakening experience for this virgin whose lamp is lit and the wicks trimmed so that the lamp is burning cleanly and brightly from the oil within. Right now I have to cup my hand over the flame to keep the boistrous wind of the devil from snuffing me out.

remember that it is the Lord that leads into capivity and it is the Lord that leadeth out. That is how he is glorified.

The disobedience of not rejoicing in trials is being disobeyed by nearly all of us.

Phi 4:1 Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, [my] dearly beloved. Phi 4:2 I beseech Euodias, and beseech Syntyche, that they be of the same mind in the Lord. Phi 4:3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and [with] other my fellowlabourers, whose names [are] in the book of life. Phi 4:4 Rejoice in the Lord alway: [and] again I say, Rejoice.

I do not know what happened to werenotalone's reply...it is gone except where I have quoted her reply...

God bless you Larry.

Learning to rejoice in trials is tough but also liberating.

All a trial is, really, either our Father saying, "Hey, I've got something for you to learn... I love you and we need to work on something."

or Satan saying, "Hey! What are you doing?!?! You can't really love him can you??? You've been ignoring me and following Him?? Well, then, take that! And that! And That!"

And God says, "Ignore him. He's just a bully. Let me worry about him. He'll get his but right now how can we make lemonaide from these lemons? No, not that way, Here, let me show you. Just take my hand and........"


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Changing directions a little.... I'm very familiar with all of the verses you presented but this one jumped out at me this morning:

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

And I thought to myself (actually I feel this was "pointed out " to me )what does "scourage" really mean. I know the jist, but what's the definition?

So.......From dictionary.com:

1 entry found for scourage.
scourage

\Scour"age\ (?; 48), n. Refuse water after scouring.


And "scouring" is defined as:





3 entries found for scouring.
scour1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skour)
v. scoured, scour·ing, scours
v. tr.

1. a. To clean, polish, or wash by scrubbing vigorously: scour a dirty oven.
b. To remove by scrubbing: scour grease from a pan.
2. To remove dirt or grease from (cloth or fibers) by means of a detergent.
3. To clean (wheat) before the milling process.
4. To clear (an area) by freeing of weeds or other vegetation.
5. To clear (a channel or pipe) by flushing.

v. intr.
1. To scrub something in order to clean or polish it.
2. To have diarrhea. Used of livestock.

n.
1. A scouring action or effect.
2. A place that has been scoured, as by flushing with water.
3. A cleansing agent for wool.
4. scours (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Diarrhea in livestock.



SO what's ya'lls opinion on this thought.....

We're scrubbed and cleaned but then denied water for rinsing. So... we're more or less clean but still have particles of the dirt (sin) left behind along with the soap suds. We'll be rinsed when our Lord comes back for us (new bodies) at hich time we'll be sparkling clean and absent of all sin and suds (because the cleaning process is ended.... no more scrubbing, no more trials, no more suds).

I also found it interesting that scourage is used to define cleaning wheat before the milling process.

Maz ,
I watched a documentary a long time ago about a Frenchman .

He was a very succesful young entrepreneur leading 'the good life ', the high life in fact ........a massively sucessful young businessman .

One day his helicopter crashed and he was made into a complete quadraplegic .......
all he could do was eat and talk and blink .....and rely on a small army of carers .

and when the interviewer asked him was he bitter about his crash , he said


'NO'

the very opposite ....it was the day his life began .
Before then he had never known what life was about , and he thanked God for the Crash .....

I was going to high light that in my post but did not..obviously it was a work needing to be addressed and thanks!

That is an unusual response for sure. Most of us would curse God and die in obedience to Job's wife's rules of engagement.

Jesus turnes the Water into Wine.