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These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
Marta
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 08:28 AM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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EXCELLENT POST Cornelius! You should pin it for the unbelievers, some people just don't understand that Jesus was God in the flesh, a manefestation of God.

Pin it!!!! 1dsz5h2.gif


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I will ask somebody to pin it...its outside my jurisdiction laugh.gif
I will also give the link to the site I found it on, its great, I haven't read through the whole site yet. First going to check it out in total before giving the link
love C
Marta
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 09:34 AM)
I will ask somebody to pin it...its outside my jurisdiction laugh.gif
I will also give the link to the site I found it on, its great, I haven't read through the whole site yet. First going to check it out in total before giving the link
love C
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More please Cornelius !
Humble Bob
Very inspiring. Praise the Lord! biggrin.gif

Of course you know what this means, right? It was God who was crucified, who had died and was resurrected.

Now, for a 100 bonus points, what is the verse in New Testament that proves this? wink.gif
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Well, for a 100 , I might just go look for it laugh.gif unless you will just give it for a mere 250 points!
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Humble Bob
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 16 2006, 01:06 AM)
Well, for a 100 , I might just go look for it laugh.gif  unless you will just give it for a mere 250 points!
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Okay I'll give you a hint. This verse has always been a mystery to me, and I could not understand it until the Lord revealed to me that he is God and Christ, then it clicked.

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Why did God forsake Christ in his greatest hour of need? To know the answer is proof that Jesus is God. Its like a gift from God saying "you don't have to believe it, here's proof" and he shows you his scars like he did to Thomas.

...of course, it is better to believe than to be shown!

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mmmm...Bob, the man that loves a good think biggrin.gif and a puzzle.
Lets see....Jesus at that moment became sin for us.God says, in Him is no sin. Would your revelation have anything to do with that fact?God left when sin came.

Or you can add to the clue laugh.gif
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Humble Bob
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 17 2006, 03:27 AM)
mmmm...Bob, the man that loves a good think biggrin.gif and a puzzle.
Lets see....Jesus at that moment became sin for us.God says, in Him is no sin. Would your revelation have anything to do with that fact?God left when sin came.

Or you can add to the clue laugh.gif
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Okay. I will smile.gif . I was told the same thing about Jesus becoming sin and all, but I was never satisfied with that explaination as the answer.

Here is the hint:

1. Before Christ had died only Christ could find God anywhere. Why?
2. Jesus is God and God is Jesus
3. So when death was upon Jesus, what happened to God?
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Ok, I will make it 300 points for your explanation, but that's my final offer.
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Humble Bob
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 17 2006, 09:27 AM)
Ok, I will make it 300 points for your explanation, but that's my final offer.
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laugh.gif laugh.gif Okay

Before Jesus had died it was only Jesus who could find the Father and the Father could not be found. And the reason why Christ could not find the father is because God had died, which is why Christ cried out. When someone we love dies we lose him or her, we cannot find them because they have gone to the world of the dead.

When God died, Christ died, because God is Christ and Christ is God. When God died he could not be found while Christ had only moments left in life. The act of Christ crying out looking for the father proves he is God.

God got up from his throne and went into the world of the dead on his own. He went ahead of Christ momentarily before Christ died on the cross.

And Christ was risen for he is God. As believers we hold that Christ has risen because he did not once sin against God. That is true, but the resurrection of Christ becomes obvious when one realizes he is God. For one God does not sin against himself, and two death is nothing to God since God created death.

This is a very powerful vision to hold for even when God almighty was in the world of the dead he had shown his grace and exercised his righteousness to rend the curtain in two covering the holy of holies.

Further the vision is made even more powerful by realizing before God had risen from his throne to go to the world of the dead he was without a single blemish. Now God carries a "blemish" on each hand and foot and on his side for oursake and he wears that "blemish" forever out of his love for us!

But I say it's not a blemish but a mark of his Glory!
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Thanks for sharing your insight Bob.
It is indeed a mark of glory.


300 points and 5 bonus for neat typing.
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this is interesting to note:


the word messiah appears twice in the bible and has a gematrical value of 444.

Jesus in greek has a gematrical value of 888.

very interesting, don't you think? ph34r.gif
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 09:28 AM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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It does not matter if Jesus is God or not, fact is you would not recognise Jesus if Jesus came walking beside you so therefore you must Treat everyone like a Jesus for what you did for these least of these you did for me.
Humble Bob
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 11:26 AM)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 09:28 AM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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It does not matter if Jesus is God or not, fact is you would not recognise Jesus if Jesus came walking beside you so therefore you must Treat everyone like a Jesus for what you did for these least of these you did for me.
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...I'd rather believe I would recognize Christ if he stood next to me than believe that I would not. So, I believe I would smile.gif
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:39 AM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 11:26 AM)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 09:28 AM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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It does not matter if Jesus is God or not, fact is you would not recognise Jesus if Jesus came walking beside you so therefore you must Treat everyone like a Jesus for what you did for these least of these you did for me.
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...I'd rather believe I would recognize Christ if he stood next to me than believe that I would not. So, I believe I would smile.gif
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Friend, even Jesus own disciples didnt recognise Jesus after Jesus was resurrected... how then could you? nobody knew Jesus was the messiah in those first 30 years.
Humble Bob
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 11:41 AM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:39 AM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 11:26 AM)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 09:28 AM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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It does not matter if Jesus is God or not, fact is you would not recognise Jesus if Jesus came walking beside you so therefore you must Treat everyone like a Jesus for what you did for these least of these you did for me.
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...I'd rather believe I would recognize Christ if he stood next to me than believe that I would not. So, I believe I would smile.gif
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Friend, even Jesus own disciples didnt recognise Jesus after Jesus was resurrected... how then could you? nobody knew Jesus was the messiah in those first 30 years.
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Friend, Jesus knows my heart better than I. He put in me that I believe I would recognize him wub.gif
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:46 AM)
Friend, Jesus knows my heart better than I.  He put in me that I believe I would recognize him wub.gif
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Your valentine feelings put that in you not Jesus.
Humble Bob
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 12:49 PM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:46 AM)
Friend, Jesus knows my heart better than I.  He put in me that I believe I would recognize him wub.gif
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Your valentine feelings put that in you not Jesus.
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Joeri, you come with wounding words for they do not counsel my spirit.

Galatians 5:15
But if you are given to fighting with one another, take care that you are not the cause of destruction one to another.


Be it on your conscience and take care your words do not cause the destruction of another.

There is one other thing...only the Lord Jesus Christ himself could say such a thing. Are you he?
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 12:49 PM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:46 AM)
Friend, Jesus knows my heart better than I.  He put in me that I believe I would recognize him wub.gif
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Your valentine feelings put that in you not Jesus.
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Joeri, you come with wounding words for they do not counsel my spirit.

Galatians 5:15
But if you are given to fighting with one another, take care that you are not the cause of destruction one to another.


Be it on your conscience and take care your words do not cause the destruction of another.
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sorry for the valentine then, it was meant as a joke.
but how can I believe Jesus puts ideas in you which simply are not true when Jesus is the Truth himself smile.gif
Having been both banned tons of times from many forums christian forums+experienced how another person in my church felt all the intense hurt that caused through the holy spirit, i assure you my heart is way far from the hostility you and many others see in my words.
I apologise for sin.
Humble Bob
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 12:49 PM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:46 AM)
Friend, Jesus knows my heart better than I.  He put in me that I believe I would recognize him wub.gif
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Your valentine feelings put that in you not Jesus.
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Joeri, you come with wounding words for they do not counsel my spirit.

Galatians 5:15
But if you are given to fighting with one another, take care that you are not the cause of destruction one to another.


Be it on your conscience and take care your words do not cause the destruction of another.
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sorry for the valentine then, it was meant as a joke.
but how can I believe Jesus puts ideas in you which simply are not true when Jesus is the Truth himself smile.gif
Having been both banned tons of times from many forums christian forums+experienced how another person in my church felt all the intense hurt that caused through the holy spirit, i assure you my heart is way far from the hostility you and many others see in my words.
I apologise for sin.
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No offense taken, my friend, for you have asked kindly.

The answer is that you must believe that Christ lives in you. I or the way my life is is not the example. Christ is the example.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


I do not ask that you believe me when I say Jesus puts ideas in me. The matter is that you must believe Jesus had put himself in you.

I could not question a man's belief in Christ when he says "I believe in Jesus Christ," for one to say as such comes from the Holy Spirit, and not from evil.

1 Corinthians 12:3
So it is my desire for you to be clear about this; that no one is able to say by the Spirit of God that Jesus is cursed; and no one is able to say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.


If one claims to "know" he or she will be asked to prove. If one claims to "believe" then it is Christ himself who will know and prove the matter.

Belief is greater than knowing, faith is greater than works.

Love my friend.

HB
offgrid
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 02:15 PM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 12:49 PM)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 11:46 AM)
Friend, Jesus knows my heart better than I.  He put in me that I believe I would recognize him wub.gif
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Your valentine feelings put that in you not Jesus.
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Joeri, you come with wounding words for they do not counsel my spirit.

Galatians 5:15
But if you are given to fighting with one another, take care that you are not the cause of destruction one to another.


Be it on your conscience and take care your words do not cause the destruction of another.
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sorry for the valentine then, it was meant as a joke.
but how can I believe Jesus puts ideas in you which simply are not true when Jesus is the Truth himself smile.gif
Having been both banned tons of times from many forums christian forums+experienced how another person in my church felt all the intense hurt that caused through the holy spirit, i assure you my heart is way far from the hostility you and many others see in my words.
I apologise for sin.
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No offense taken, my friend, for you have asked kindly.

The answer is that you must believe that Christ lives in you. I or the way my life is is not the example. Christ is the example.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


I do not ask that you believe me when I say Jesus puts ideas in me. The matter is that you must believe Jesus had put himself in you.

I could not question a man's belief in Christ when he says "I believe in Jesus Christ," for one to say as such comes from the Holy Spirit, and not from evil.

1 Corinthians 12:3
So it is my desire for you to be clear about this; that no one is able to say by the Spirit of God that Jesus is cursed; and no one is able to say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.


If one claims to "know" he or she will be asked to prove. If one claims to "believe" then it is Christ himself who will know and prove the matter.

Belief is greater than knowing, faith is greater than works.

Love my friend.

HB
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AHH,the fruits of the spirit tells every time. Gods face to shine upon you HB,yours in Christ Offgrid
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(offgrid @ Feb 14 2006, 04:20 PM)
AHH,the fruits of the spirit tells every time. Gods face to shine upon you HB,yours in Christ Offgrid
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Very, Very few Christians have the true gift of discernment and without it its impossible to accurately judge.
To tell the truth, mine was stolen. witchcraft can do much if God allows it.
So my grandpa got popular, instead of I. BEcause of his innocent radiation/glory/aura, that is, my innocent youthish one.
Humble Bob
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE(offgrid @ Feb 14 2006, 04:20 PM)
AHH,the fruits of the spirit tells every time. Gods face to shine upon you HB,yours in Christ Offgrid
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Very, Very few Christians have the true gift of discernment and without it its impossible to accurately judge.
To tell the truth, mine was stolen. witchcraft can do much if God allows it.
So my grandpa got popular, instead of I. BEcause of his innocent radiation/glory/aura, that is, my innocent youthish one.
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Nothing is offensive to the Lord if it is given to Christ first, Joeri. Offgird's blessing is one I offer to the Lord first to do him honor.

Genesis 4:3-5
And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.


be on your guard and suffer not the spell that Cain fell under.

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Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 14 2006, 08:32 PM)
QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Feb 14 2006, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE(offgrid @ Feb 14 2006, 04:20 PM)
AHH,the fruits of the spirit tells every time. Gods face to shine upon you HB,yours in Christ Offgrid
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Very, Very few Christians have the true gift of discernment and without it its impossible to accurately judge.
To tell the truth, mine was stolen. witchcraft can do much if God allows it.
So my grandpa got popular, instead of I. BEcause of his innocent radiation/glory/aura, that is, my innocent youthish one.
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Nothing is offensive to the Lord if it is given to Christ first, Joeri. Offgird's blessing is one I offer to the Lord first to do him honor.

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rejecting Jesus or rejecting Jesus-in-others in the name of Christ, as Christ said would happen, surely is offensive.
Humble Bob
I would agree if you mean that the Kingdom of Christ does not divide itself.

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rejecting Jesus or rejecting Jesus-in-others in the name of Christ, as Christ said would happen, surely is offensive


But I would disagree with what you say in that Christ would divide his own kingdom.

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rejecting Jesus or rejecting Jesus-in-others in the name of Christ, as Christ said would happen


For Jesus Christ never said his own kingdom would divide itself and thus fall.

Matthew 12:25
And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:


And Christ said the same for the kingdom of satan.

Matthew 12:26
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?


But the Kingdom of Christ shall prevail over the kingdom of satan, for what is offensive to the Lord Jesus Christ he will have removed and thrown into the lake of fire.

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Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Feb 15 2006, 06:58 PM)
I would agree if you mean that the Kingdom of Christ does not divide itself. 

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rejecting Jesus or rejecting Jesus-in-others in the name of Christ, as Christ said would happen, surely is offensive


But I would disagree with what you say in that Christ would divide his own kingdom.

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rejecting Jesus or rejecting Jesus-in-others in the name of Christ, as Christ said would happen


For Jesus Christ never said his own kingdom would divide itself and thus fall.

Matthew 12:25
And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:


And Christ said the same for the kingdom of satan.

Matthew 12:26
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?


But the Kingdom of Christ shall prevail over the kingdom of satan, for what is offensive to the Lord Jesus Christ he will have removed and thrown into the lake of fire.

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I did not say Christ would divide his own kingdom, the sinful people of that kingdom divide the kingdom against Christs will.
btw if he threw away everything which he didnt like in the fire, no man would be in that kingdom but Christ wink.gif
For all have sinned
LemuelReyes
Of course He is! smile.gif
gr82bsaved
Humble Bob and Joeri,
Time to stop this. I believe you are both trusting in JESUS CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED, RISEN and EXALTED at the RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. Therefore, it would be much better for all of us if you cooled it!

Please read these verses and think about it:

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Eph 4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

Eph 4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,

Eph 4:13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

Eph 4:14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,

Eph 4:15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ

Eph 4:16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.


I removed your last two replies to each other.

Please keep sniping between yourselves in PMs or better yet, don't do it at all.

Thanks.

Todd
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(gr82bsaved @ Feb 19 2006, 01:56 PM)
Humble Bob and Joeri,
  Time to stop this. I believe you are both trusting in JESUS CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED, RISEN and EXALTED at the RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. Therefore, it would be much better for all of us if you cooled it!

  Please read these verses and think about it:

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Eph 4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

Eph 4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,

Eph 4:13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

Eph 4:14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,

Eph 4:15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ

Eph 4:16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.


I removed your last two replies to each other.

Please keep sniping between yourselves in PMs or better yet, don't do it at all.

Thanks.

Todd
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Thanks Todd, I was getting tired of pointless arguing over nonsense. That is not our calling. IF I have sinned, I ask forgiveness.
Humble Bob
Dear Christ in heaven hear my words for I call upon thee, that I declare your words that you have spoken. That I confess before all who read this that you are my Lord and savior so that you will confess me before the Father. That I ask you Lord that I will suffer the falling away so that you will show me the son of perdition that is in me, and my house upon sand will be washed away, so that you will rebuild my house upon you!

Mattthew 10:32
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.


2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition


In your name, Jesus, I pray, Amen.

Robert
C
I am quoting this again, to reset this thread. It is a beautiful piece of study material, worth looking at and meditating on.It contains some of those "wow" elements that we do not often see in life. 14 scriptures...7 this side and 7 the other.
I find God to be like music. So much harmony. smile.gif


QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 04:28 PM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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QUOTE(Cornelius @ Feb 20 2006, 04:35 PM)
I am quoting this again, to reset this thread. It is a beautiful piece of study material, worth looking at and meditating on.It contains some of those "wow" elements that we do not often see in life. 14 scriptures...7 this side and 7 the other.
I find God to be like music. So much harmony. smile.gif


QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 04:28 PM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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AMEN BROTHER AMEN!!!!!!! Jesus was God manifested in the FLESH!!!!! 1 tim 3:16 1dsz5h3.gif
Joeri(male)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Feb 20 2006, 04:35 PM)
I am quoting this again, to reset this thread. It is a beautiful piece of study material, worth looking at and meditating on.It contains some of those "wow" elements that we do not often see in life. 14 scriptures...7 this side and 7 the other.
I find God to be like music. So much harmony. smile.gif


QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 15 2006, 04:28 PM)
These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God
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AMEN brother! You got that right! God is like music! I believe that in heaven all Gods and our righteous deeds itself can be woven into music!
For with God, whom is love, nothing shall be impossible!

Jesus is the Son of Father God, and depending on how you define God, himself fully a God as well. They are One. The Son does nothing without the Father. He cannot even. Humans jobs is to be One as well. but from the moment that Adam and Eve ate from the tree we went into a dualistic, good/evil reality, instead of a unifying Life together, as humanity with the Eternal God.
leia
Has anyone realized, with all this code stuff and putting words together and what means what that God WROTE all of it?

You have to do no more than look at the cross, my firends. It all begins and ends there. There is no need to go any further.

"Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews...."
that is Pilate wrote as his crime. The big wigs of the Jews didn't think much of this until it hung above His head....

Remember they wrote in brief and left out a bunck of vowels (sort of like some of our liscense plates now).

WELL!!!!! Do you think His name, Jesus was accidental? What it means is accidental? Where He was born was accidental? That Pilate thought to use 'king of the Jews' as a half retort to those underneath the Roman Empire?

Take out the vowels in that Phrase and it reads "Jehovah".

THAT is why the big wigs must have cursed in all their rightousness when they saw it hanging over His head on that hill for all to see.

I tell you, my friend. It was no accident.

leia
Joeri(male)
Leia is right. We should return to the Cross, living and preaching it. The cross is the power of God and the center of all we are called to live by;you are to love as you have been loved by Christ which is shown on the Cross the most.
Charlie
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These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God



Amen Cornelius

Christ is God.



Charlie


Joeri(male)
just a question for everyone but what is God? What makes someone or something a God? Define God.
I say God is the father and mother of Jesus Christ but I also believe that the JHWH (Lord) in the Old Testament is often Jesus Christ/Jahushua.

Messiahiscoming
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These make a beautiful picture ....like a mirror.......

Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus was the Almighty.
Genesis 17:1 And the Almighty was God.

John 8:58 Jesus was the "I Am"
Exodus 3:14 and the "I Am" was God

Acts 3:14 Jesus was the "HOLY ONE"
Isaiah 43:15 and the "HOLY ONE" was God

John 8:24 Jesus is the "I Am He"
Isaiah 43:10 and the "I Am He" was God

Revelation 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "First and the Last" was God

I Corinthians 10:4 Jesus was "The Rock"
Psalm 18:31 and "The Rock" was God

II Corinthians 11:2 Jesus was the "One HUSBAND"
Jeremiah 31:32 and the "One HUSBAND" was God

Matthew 23:8 Jesus was the "ONE MASTER"
Malachi 1:6 and the "ONE MASTER" was God

John 10:16 Jesus was the "One SHEPHERD"
Isaiah 40:11 and the "ONE SHEPHERD" was God

Acts 4:12 Jesus was the "ONE SAVIOR"
Isaiah 45:21 and the "ONE SAVIOR" was God

Luke 1:68 Jesus was the "ONE REDEEMER"
Isaiah 41:14 and the "ONE REDEEMER" was God

Revelation 19:16 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
1 Timothy 6:14 Jesus was "LORD OF LORDS
Deuteronomy 10:17 and the "LORD OF LORDS" was God

Philippians 2:10 Every knee must bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every knee must bow to God

John 1: 3-10 Jesus was the "ONE CREATOR"
Isaiah 44:24 The Lord your Redeemer was the "ONE CREATOR"
Genesis 1:1 and the "ONE CREATOR" was God

John 1:49 Jesus was "KING OF ISRAEL"
Isaiah 44:6 and the "KING OF ISRAEL" was God



Amen Cornelius

Christ is God.



Charlie








Yes and I will 2nd that! smile.gif



Your friend in Christ,

Val



Messiahiscoming

chrio39
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just a question for everyone but what is God? What makes someone or something a God? Define God.
I say God is the father and mother of Jesus Christ but I also believe that the JHWH (Lord) in the Old Testament is often Jesus Christ/Jahushua.


God is not the mother of Jesus, Mary a human woman was. Period. End of story. To believe otherwise is to exalt your knowledge above the knowledge of God.
Charlie
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QUOTE(Joeri(male) @ Oct 9 2006, 02:30 AM) [snapback]87024[/snapback]

just a question for everyone but what is God? What makes someone or something a God? Define God.
I say God is the father and mother of Jesus Christ but I also believe that the JHWH (Lord) in the Old Testament is often Jesus Christ/Jahushua.


God is not the mother of Jesus, Mary a human woman was. Period. End of story. To believe otherwise is to exalt your knowledge above the knowledge of God.


I think that Joeri was refering to these scriptures where Christ denounses his mother and brothers.

Matthew 12
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, "Who is My mother and who are My brothers?"
49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, "Here are My mother and My brothers!
50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother."

Mark 3
33 But He answered them, saying, "Who is My mother, or My brothers?"
34 And He looked around in a circle at those who sat about Him, and said, "Here are My mother and My brothers!
35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother."


Luke 8
20 And it was told Him by some, who said, "Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, desiring to see You."
21 But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it."





Charlie



HeSaves
Here comes a compilation of Questions from the letters in the New Testament.Worth pondering.
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Rom; 2:3"And do you think this,O man,you who judge those practicing such things,and doing the same,that you will escape the judgement of God?"
2:4"Or do you despise the riches of His goodness,forebearance,and longsuffering,not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?"
2:21"You,therefore,who teach another,do you not teach yourself?You who preach that a man should not steal,do you steal?"
2:22"You who say:"Do not commit adultery." do you commit adultery?You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?"
2:23"You who make your boast in the law,do you dishonor God through breaking the law?"
2:26"Therefore,if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law,will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?"
2:27"And will not the physically uncircumcised,if he fulfills the law,judge you who,even with your written code and circumcision,are a transgressor of the law?"
3:1"What advantage then has the Jew,or what is the profit of circumcision?"
3:3"For what if some did not believe?Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect?"
3:5"But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God,what shall we say?Is God unjust who afflicts wrath?"
3:6"Certainly not!For then how will God judge the world?"
3:7"For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to His glory,why am I also still judged as a sinner?"
3:8"And why not say:"Let us do evil that good may come"?
3:9"What then?Are we better than they?"
3:27"Where is boasting then?It is excluded.By what law?Of works?No,but by the law of faith.
3:29"Or is He the God of the Jews only?Is He not also the God of the Gentiles?"
4:1"What then should we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh?"
4:3"For what does Scripture say?"
4:9"Does this blessedness then come upon the circumcised only,or upon the uncircumcised also?"
4:10"How then was it accounted?While he was circumcised,or uncircumcised?"
6:1"What shall we say then?Shall we continue in sin thet grace may abound?"
6:2"Certainly not!How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?"
6:3"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?"
6:15"What then?Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace?Certainly not!
6:16"Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,you are that ones slaves whom you obey,whether of sin leading to death,or of obedience leading to righteousness?"
6:21"What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed?"
7:1"Or do you not know,brethren(for I speak as to those who know the law),that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives?"
7:7"What shall we say then?Is the law sin?Certainly not!"
7:13"Has then what is good become death to me?Certainly not!"
7:24"O wretched man that I am!Who will deliver me from this body of death?
8:24"For we were saved in this hope,but hope that is seen is not hope;for why does one still hope for what he sees?
8:31"What then shall we say to these things?If God is for us,who can be against us?"
8:32"He who did not spare His own Son,but delivered Him up for us all,how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?"
8:33"Who shall bring a charge against God's elect?"
8:34"Who is he who condemns?"
8:35"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?Shall tribulation,or distress,or persecution,or famine,or nakedness,or peril,or sword?"
9:14"What shall we say then?Is there unrighteousness with God?Certainly not!"
9:19"You will say to me then,"Why does He still find fault?For who has resisted His will?
9:20"But indeed,O man,who are you to reply against God?Will the thing formed say to him who formed it,"Why have you made me like this?"
9:21"Does not the potter have power over the clay,from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?"
9:22-24"What if God,wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known,endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy,which He had prepared beforehand for glory,even us whom He called,not of the Jews only,but also of the Gentiles?"
9:30"What shall we say then?"
10:6" 'Who will ascend into heaven?' "
10:7" 'Who will descend into the abyss?' "
10:8"But what does it say?"
10:14"And how shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed?And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard?And how shall they hear without a preacher?
10:15"And how shall they preach unless they are sent?"
10:16"Lord,who has believed our report?"
10.19"But I say,did Israel not know?"
11:1"I say then,has God cast away His people?Certainly not!
11:2-3"Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah,how he pleads with God against Israel,saying,'LORD,they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars ,and I alone am left,and they seek my life'?"
11.4"But what does the divine respons say to him?"
11:11"I say then,have they stumbled that they should fall?Certainly not!
11:15"For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world,what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?"
11:35-35"For who has known the mind of the LORD?Or who has become His counselor?" "Or who has first given to Him And it shall be repaid to him?"
13:3"Do you want to be unafraid of the authority?"
14:4"Who are you to judge another's servant?"
14:10"But why do you judge your brother?Or why do you show contempt for your brother?"
14:22"Do you have faith?"
1 Cor;1:13"Is Christ divided?Was Paul crucified for you?Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
1:20"Where is the wise?Where is the scribe?Where is the disputer of this age?Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?"
2:11"For what man knows the things of man except the spirit of the man which is in him?
3:3"For where there are envy,strife,and divisions among you,are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?"
3:4"For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not carnal?"
3:5:"Who then is Paul,and who is Apollos,but ministers through whom you believed,as the Lord gave to each one?"
3:16"Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
4:7"For who makes you differ from another?And what do you have that you did not receive?Now if you did indeed receive it,why do you boast as if you had not received it?"
4:21"What do you want?Shall I come to you with a rod or in love and a spirit of gentleness?"
5:6"Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?"
5:12"For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside?Do you not judge those who are inside?"
6:1"Dare any of you,having a matter against another,go to law before the unrighteous,and not before the saints?
6:2"Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?And if the world will be judged by you,are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
6:3"Do you not know that we shall judge angels?How much more, things that pertain to this life?"
6:4"If then you have judgements concerning things pertaining to this life,do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge?"
6.5"Is it so,that it is not a wise man among you,not even one,who will be able to judge between his brethren?"
6:7"Why do you not accept wrong?Why do you not rather let yourself be cheated?"
6:9"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?"
6:15"Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ?Shall I take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot?Certainly not!"
6:16"Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her?"
6:19"Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you,whom you have from God,and you are not your own?"
7:16"For how do you know,O wife,whether you will save your husband?Or how do you know,O husband,whether you will save your wife?"
7:18"Was anyone called while circumcised?Let him not become uncircumcised.Was anyone called while uncircumcised?Let him not be circumcised.
7:27"Are you bound to a wife?Do not seek to be loosed.Are you loosed from a wife?Do not seek a wife."
8:10"For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple,will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols?"
8:11"And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish,for whom Christ died?"
9:1"Am I not an apostle?Am I not free?Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord?Are you not my work in the Lord?"
9:4"Do we have no right to eat and drink?"
9:5"Do we have no right to take along a believing wife,as do also the other apostles,the brothers of the Lord,and Cephas?"
9:6"Or is it only Barnabas and I who have no right to refrain from working?"
9:7"Who ever go to war at his own expence?Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its fruit?Or who tends a flock and does not drink of the milk of the flock?"
9:8"Do I say these things as a mere man?Or does not the law say the same also?"
9:9"Is it oxen God is concerned about?"
9:10"Or does He say it altogether for our sakes?"
9:11"If we have sown spiritual things for you,is it a great thing if we reap your material things?"
9:12"If others are partakers of this right over you,are we not even more?"
9:18"What is my reward then?"
9:24"Do you not know that those who run in a race all run,but one receives the prize?"
10:16"The cup of blessing which we bless,is it not the communion of the blood of Christ?"
10:18"Observe Israel after the flesh:Are not those who eat of the sacrifice partakers of the altar?"
10:19"What am I saying then?That an idol is anything,or what is offered to idols is anything?"
10:22"Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?Are we stronger than He?"
10.29"For why is my liberty judged by another mans conscience?"
11:13"Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?"
11:14"Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair,it is a dishonor to him?"
11:22"Do you not have houses to eat and drink in?Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing?What shall I say to you?"
12:15"If the foot should say,"Because I am not a hand,I am not of the body,"is it therefore not of the body?"
12:16"And if the ear should say,"Because i am not an eye,i am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body?"
12:17If the whole body were an eye,where would be the hearing?If the whole were hearing,were would be the smelling?"
12:19"And if they were all one member,where would the body be?"
12:29"Are all apostles?Are all prophets?Are all teachers?Are all workers of miracles?"
12:30"Do all have gifts of healings?Do all speak with tongues?Do all interpret?"
14:6"But now,brethren,if I come to you speaking with tongues,what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation,by knowledge,by prophesying,or by teaching?"
14:7"Even things without life,whether flute or harp,when they make a sound,unless they make a distinction in the sounds,how will it be known what is piped or played?"
14:8"For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound,who will prepare for battle?"
14:9"So likewise you,unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand,how will it be known what is spoken?"
14:15"What is the conclusion then?"
14.16"Otherwise,if you bless with the spirit,how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving thanks,since he do not understand what you say?"
14:23"Therefore,if the whole church comes together in one place,and all speak with tongues,and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers,will they not say you are out of your mind?"
14:26"How is it then brethren?"
14:36"Or did the word of God come originally from you?Or was it you only that it reached?"
15:12"Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead,how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?"
15:29"Otherwise,what will they do who are baptized for the dead,if the dead do not rise at all?Why then are they baptized for the dead?"
15:30"And why do we stand in jeopardy every hour?"
15:32"If in the manner of men,I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,what advantage is it to me?
15:35"How are the dead raised up?And with what body do they come?"
15:55" 'O Death,where is your sting?O Hades where is your victory?' "
2 Cor;1:17"Therefore,when I was planning this,did I do it lightly?Or these things I plan,do I plan according to the flesh,that with me there should be Yes,Yes, and No,No?"
2:2"For if I make you sorrowful,then who is he who makes me glad but the one who is made sorrowful by me?"
2:16"And who is sufficient for these things?"
3:1"Do we begin again to commend ourselves?Or do we need,as some others,epistles of commendation to you or letters of commendation from you?"
3:8"..how will the ministry of of the Spirit not be more glorious?"
6:14"For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?And what communion has light with darkness?"
6:15"And what accord has Christ with Belial?Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?"
6:16"And what agreement has the temple of God with idols?"
10:7"Do you look at things according to the outward appearance?"
11:7"Did I commit sin in humbling myself that you might be exalted,because I preached the gospel of God to you free of charge?"
11:11"Why?Because I do not love you?God knows!
11:22"Are they Hebrews?So am I.Are they Israelites?So am I.Are they seed of Abraham?So am I.Are they ministers of Christ?-I speak as a fool-I am more.."
11:29"Who is weak,and I am not weak?Who is made to stumble,and I do not burn with indignation?"
12:13"For what is it in which you were inferior to other churches,except that I myself was not burdensome to you?"
12:17"Did I take advantage of you by any of those whom I sent to you?"
12:18"Did Titus take advantage of you?Did we not walk in the same spirit?Did we not walk in the same steps?"
12:19"Again,do you think that we excuse ourselves to you?"
13:5"Do you not know yourselves,that Jesus Christ is in you?.."
Gal;1:10"For do I now persuade men,or God?Or do I seek to please men?"
2:14"But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel,I said to Peter before them all, "If you,being a Jew,live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews,why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews?"
2:17"But while we seek to be justified by Christ,we ourselves also are found sinners,is Christ therefore a minister of sin?Certainly not!"
3:1"Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth,before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?"
3:2"This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law,or by the hearing of faith?"
3:3"Are you so foolish?Having begun in the Spirit,are you now being made perfect by the flesh?"
3:4"Have you suffered so many things in vain-if indeed it was in vain?"
3:5"Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you,does He do it by the works of the law,or by the hearing of faith?"
3:19"What purpose then does the law serve?"
3:21"Is the law then against the promises of God?Certainly not!"
4.9"But now after you have known God,or rather are known by God,how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements,to which you desire again to be in bondage?"
4:15"What then was the blessing you enjoyed?"
4:16"Have I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?"
4:21"Tell me,you who desire to be under the law,do you not hear the law?"
5:7"You ran well.Who hindered you from obeying the truth?"
5:11"And I,brethren,if I still preach circumcision,why do I still suffer persecution?"
1 Thess;2:19"For what is our hope ,or joy,or crown of rejoicing?Is it not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming?"
3:9-10"For what thanks can we render to God for you,for all the joy with which we rejoice for your sake before our God,night and day praying exceedingly that we may see your face and perfect what is lacking in your faith?"
2 Thess2:5"Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?"
Hebrews;1:5"For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son,Today I have begotten You"? And again. "I will be to Him a Father,And He shall be to Me a Son"?
1:13"But to which of the angels has He ever said: "Sit at my right hand,Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"?
1:14"Are they not all minestering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?"
2:2-4"For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast,and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward,how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation,which at first began to be spoken by the Lord,and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders,with various miracles,and gifts of the Holy Spirit,according to His own will?"
2:6"But one testified in a certain place,saying: "What is man that You are mindful of him,or the son of man that You take care of him?"
3:16"For who,having heard,rebelled?Indeed,was it not all who came out of Egypt,led by Moses?"
3.17"Now with whom was He angry forty years?Was it not with those who sinned,whose corpses fell in the wilderness?"
3:18"And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest,but to those who did not obey?"
7:11"Therefore,if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law),what furtherneed was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek,and not be called according to the order of Aaron?"
10:2"For then would they not have ceased to be offered?"
10:29"Of how much worse punishment,do you suppose,will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot,counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing,and insulted the Spirit of grace?"
11.32"And what more shall I say?"
12:7"If you endure chastening,God deals with you as as with sons;for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?"
13:6"So we may boldly say."The Lord is my helper;I will not fear.What can man do to me?"
James ;2:2-4"For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings,in fine apparel,and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes,and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, "You sit here in a good place," and say to the poor man, "You stand there," or,"Sit here at my footstool,"have you not shown partiality among yourselves,and became judges with evil thoughts?"
2:5"Listen,my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?"
2:6"Do not the rich opress you and drag you into the courts?"
2:7"Do they not blaspheme that noble name by which you were called?
2:14-16"What does it profit,my brethren,if someone says he has faith but does not have works?Can faith save him?If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food,and one of you says to them,"Depart in peace,be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body,what does it profit?"
2:20-22"But do you want to know,O foolish man,that faith without works is dead?Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?Do you see that faith was working together with his works,and by works was made perfect?"
2:25"Likewise,was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?"
3:11"Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?"
3:12"Can a fig tree,my brethren,bear olives,or a grapevine bear figs?
4:1"Where do wars and fights come from among you?Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members?"
4:4"Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God?"
4:5"Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain,"The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously"?
4:12"Who are you to judge another?"
5:13-14"Is anyone among you suffering?Is anyone cheerful?Is anyone among you sick?"
1 Peter;2:20"For what credit is it if,when you are beaten for your faults,you take it patiently?"
3:13"And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good?"
4:17-18"For the time has come for judgement to begin at the house of God;and if it begins with us first,what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?Now "If the righteous one is scarcely saved,Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?"
2 Peter 3:4"Where is the promise of His coming?"
1 John;2:22"Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?"
3:12"And why did he murder him?"
3:17"But whoever has this world's goods,and sees his brother in need,and shuts up his heart from him,how does the love of God abide in him?"
5:5"Who is he who overcomes the world,but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?"
Revelation;5:2"Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice,"Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?"
6:10"And they cried with a loud voice,"How long,O Lord,holy and true,until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
6:17"For the great day of His wrath has come,and who is able to stand?"
7.13"Then one of the elders answered ,saying to me,"Who are these arrayed in white robes,and where did they come from?"
13:4"Who is like the beast?Who is able to make war with him?"
15:4"Who shall not fear you,O Lord,and glorify your name?"
17:7"But the angel said to me,"Why did you marvel?I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her,which has the seven heads and the ten horns."
18:18"What is like this great city?"









Grace1st
cool find, thanks a lot.
Marta Farta Returns!
QUOTE (Humble Bob @ Jan 16 2006, 04:37 PM) *
QUOTE (Cornelius @ Jan 16 2006, 01:06 AM)
Well, for a 100 , I might just go look for it laugh.gif  unless you will just give it for a mere 250 points!
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Okay I'll give you a hint. This verse has always been a mystery to me, and I could not understand it until the Lord revealed to me that he is God and Christ, then it clicked.

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Why did God forsake Christ in his greatest hour of need? To know the answer is proof that Jesus is God. Its like a gift from God saying "you don't have to believe it, here's proof" and he shows you his scars like he did to Thomas.

...of course, it is better to believe than to be shown!

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HumbleBob, miss you! Are you still here?

The answer to any mystery is always right there in the book.

Christ was Quoting Psalms22.

Psalms 22:

1 My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?
Why are You so far from helping Me,
And from the words of My groaning?
2 O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear;
And in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But You are holy,
Enthroned in the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in You;
They trusted, and You delivered them.
5 They cried to You, and were delivered;
They trusted in You, and were not ashamed.

6 But I am a worm, and no man;
A reproach of men, and despised by the people.
7 All those who see Me ridicule Me;
They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8 “He trusted[b] in the LORD, let Him rescue Him;
Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!”

9 But You are He who took Me out of the womb;
You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts.
10 I was cast upon You from birth.
From My mother’s womb
You have been My God.
11 Be not far from Me,
For trouble is near;
For there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have surrounded Me;
Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me.
13 They gape at Me with their mouths,
Like a raging and roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water,
And all My bones are out of joint;
My heart is like wax;
It has melted within Me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
And My tongue clings to My jaws;
You have brought Me to the dust of death.

16 For dogs have surrounded Me;
The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me.
They pierced[c] My hands and My feet;
17 I can count all My bones.
They look and stare at Me.
18 They divide My garments among them,
And for My clothing they cast lots.

19 But You, O LORD, do not be far from Me;
O My Strength, hasten to help Me!
20 Deliver Me from the sword,
My precious life from the power of the dog.
21 Save Me from the lion’s mouth
And from the horns of the wild oxen!

You have answered Me.

22 I will declare Your name to My brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.
23 You who fear the LORD, praise Him!
All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him,
And fear Him, all you offspring of Israel!
24 For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
Nor has He hidden His face from Him;
But when He cried to Him, He heard.

25 My praise shall be of You in the great assembly;
I will pay My vows before those who fear Him.
26 The poor shall eat and be satisfied;
Those who seek Him will praise the LORD.
Let your heart live forever!

27 All the ends of the world
Shall remember and turn to the LORD,
And all the families of the nations
Shall worship before You.[d]
28 For the kingdom is the LORD’s,
And He rules over the nations.

29 All the prosperous of the earth
Shall eat and worship;
All those who go down to the dust
Shall bow before Him,
Even he who cannot keep himself alive.

30 A posterity shall serve Him.
It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation,
31 They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born,
That He has done this.


Did you read that entire Chapter? Our GOD is indeed an AWESOME GOD!

JESUS IS LORD!

Also look at I Timothy 3:16

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.


Now look at it again:



16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

God was manifested in the flesh,
(GOD was) Justified in the Spirit,
(GOD was) Seen by angels,
(GOD) Preached among the Gentiles,
(GOD was) Believed on in the world,
(GOD was) Received up in glory.


comma, comma, comma!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHOOT WHOOT, now check out what happened in the conversion of Saul:

Acts 9:3-5

3 As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. 4 Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”

5 And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”
Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads (pricks).”


And he said, "Who are You, Lord? Then the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting"

So, if I hear people tell me that Jesus never said He was God, I point them to this verse, then 'BAM' Saul now converted to Paul!

And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”
Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.


Saul is saying , Who are you Jehovah, at this moment Saul did not know it was Jesus. Acts 9:5 reads, "And HE said (And Jehovah said), Who are thou Lord? (Jesus says, "I am Jehovah") In the Hebrew translation of the New Testament Greek it says;

"And Jehovah God said, I am Yeshua"


The translaters were identifying Jesus with Jehovah in order to prove His full identity as Almigty God!

Jesus did say he is the 'I AM'

Jesus didn't say He was God?? Oh?? But God said he was Jesus?

JESUS IS LORD!


Amen!
RosielovesJesus
AMEN!
MMarc

I was talking with brothers and this little girl came and knelt before us and simply said:

Jesus is God. 'nough said. rolleyes.gif
Here Am I
AMEN! Excellent thread. The OP is a keeper 1dsz5h3.gif
charliek
QUOTE (Humble Bob @ Jan 15 2006, 05:39 PM) *
Very inspiring. Praise the Lord! biggrin.gif

Of course you know what this means, right? It was God who was crucified, who had died and was resurrected.

Now, for a 100 bonus points, what is the verse in New Testament that proves this? wink.gif

For God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself.
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