Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
I awoke in the wee hours this morning thinking of something I am sharing with one of our own, and I began to realize (again) that there are many times when we see things occuring in life which seem of evil portent, and yet later on we see the Lord has been doing something. The bible is full of these times if we stop and think of it. I think it really boils down to the fact that God is truly in control of everything. He can even use the devil to do his will. The cross was the biggest and most obvious of these events.
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
I had more but I just want to put out a feeler and see if people can post things that have happened in their life which looked like the devil was either stealing, killing or destroying, and then there was God doing a miracle or at least forming something new out of the wet clay.
Full Version: Was That God Or The Devil?
Yes, he uses our own sin to humble us. He allows us to get caught in our own sins to humble us. He's always using them. He's one step ahead of the devil pulling the reigns in. Not allowing us to experiance more than we can bare but also remembering we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us.
When we admit out error and become humbled as he desires he takes us to what you guys like to call "a new level."
When we admit out error and become humbled as he desires he takes us to what you guys like to call "a new level."
QUOTE(Mazinaw @ Jan 13 2006, 06:04 PM)
Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
I had more but I just want to put out a feeler and see if people can post things that have happened in their life which looked like the devil was either stealing, killing or destroying, and then there was God doing a miracle or at least forming something new out of the wet clay.
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I had more but I just want to put out a feeler and see if people can post things that have happened in their life which looked like the devil was either stealing, killing or destroying, and then there was God doing a miracle or at least forming something new out of the wet clay.
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I can't say that I have. What I have seen time and time again in my life is me messing things up and then God finding a way to bless me after I've realized my mistake or sin and repented. This is the important part... repenting. After that he's turned my messes into something that witnesses to his grace and glory.
We serve an awesome God!!
lov4all
Well the devil thought he had me when l was into astrology but in fact it was the very thing that caused me to believe.
I thought! This is real! If this is real and the Bible says don't do it then the Bible has to be just as real as an astrological chart. So l turned.
Of course that is a totally simplified version.
But it was an awesome time of revelation..
The key scripture was "Come let us reason."
I thought! This is real! If this is real and the Bible says don't do it then the Bible has to be just as real as an astrological chart. So l turned.
Of course that is a totally simplified version.
But it was an awesome time of revelation..
The key scripture was "Come let us reason."
QUOTE(Miki @ Jan 13 2006, 04:13 PM)
Yes, he uses our own sin to humble us. He allows us to get caught in our own sins to humble us. He's always using them. He's one step ahead of the devil pulling the reigns in. Not allowing us to experiance more than we can bare but also remembering we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us.
When we admit out error and become humbled as he desires he takes us to what you guys like to call "a new level."
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When we admit out error and become humbled as he desires he takes us to what you guys like to call "a new level."
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It also goes beyond answering up for sin. It has been observed in my life that God never performs all His will the way I think He should. That can take one through the fires. Never around them...
Isa 43:2 When thou passest through the waters, I [will be] with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.
My experiance in the occult has been a handy little tool against the enemy.
What if our heart is so set upon a thing that we just have to have it or else? Or what if we think we have a thing to say and it can't get said? Maybe we never arrive because God knows it will bring harm rather than good? Best intentions aren't always the right intentions, even if we intended... 
QUOTE(Miki @ Jan 13 2006, 04:30 PM)
My experiance in the occult has been a handy little tool against the enemy.
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My previous reply also went into the ether...so was that God or the devil? I say it now again. I was taken into the dark side and was oppressed by a demon twelve years. But I was delivered. I now know about God from a standpoint of knowing about the devil. If one has to taste the dark and dry husks to see (appreciate) the sweet, God allows it..I think that is why the prodigal son was allowed to go off and squander his inheritance on riotous living.
A biblical example of turning the tables...
Est 7:10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then was the king's wrath pacified.
Est 9:25 But when [Esther] came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
It was all over for Mordecai, but Haman fell into his own trap...
Est 7:10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then was the king's wrath pacified.
Est 9:25 But when [Esther] came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
It was all over for Mordecai, but Haman fell into his own trap...
Another example of intended evil turned to good...
Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for [am] I in the place of God?
Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; [but] God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as [it is] this day, to save much people alive. Gen 50:21 Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them.
Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for [am] I in the place of God?
Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; [but] God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as [it is] this day, to save much people alive. Gen 50:21 Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them.
A beautiful and deep reflection that has been given onto you, Maz. Your question reminds me of the story of Job and his tribulation.
You know this story; it was a contest between God and satan, where the devil said "job would curse God should evil befall him." So God agreed to let satan have his way with him but not to kill him.
From this perspective it is easy to see that God was in control, for satan could not do anything onto Job unless God allowed it, and God did, and surely an evil spell did befall Job.
Now ask yourself this, how did Job view all of his misfortune? Through his trials Job did not look upon satan as the source of his troubles, but that he looked upon God. And Job, being a righteous man remained a righteous man by not blaming God in one bit. By doing so, he remained faithful in God.
The lesson here is even in the face of evil, Job did not even look upon the devil for the cause of his troubles. It is justice when a thief is caught, but an insult if he is not even seen as a petty thief.
Even in Job 42:11 it does say the Lord brought evil unto Job, but by the Lord's decree Job remained a faithful man to God.
I pray and hope this helps, Maz
Love HB
You know this story; it was a contest between God and satan, where the devil said "job would curse God should evil befall him." So God agreed to let satan have his way with him but not to kill him.
From this perspective it is easy to see that God was in control, for satan could not do anything onto Job unless God allowed it, and God did, and surely an evil spell did befall Job.
Now ask yourself this, how did Job view all of his misfortune? Through his trials Job did not look upon satan as the source of his troubles, but that he looked upon God. And Job, being a righteous man remained a righteous man by not blaming God in one bit. By doing so, he remained faithful in God.
The lesson here is even in the face of evil, Job did not even look upon the devil for the cause of his troubles. It is justice when a thief is caught, but an insult if he is not even seen as a petty thief.
Even in Job 42:11 it does say the Lord brought evil unto Job, but by the Lord's decree Job remained a faithful man to God.
I pray and hope this helps, Maz
Love HB
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Jan 13 2006, 05:48 PM)
A beautiful and deep reflection that has been given onto you, Maz. Your question reminds me of the story of Job and his tribulation.
You know this story; it was a contest between God and satan, where the devil said "job would curse God should evil befall him." So God agreed to let satan have his way with him but not to kill him.
From this perspective it is easy to see that God was in control, for satan could not do anything onto Job unless God allowed it, and God did, and surely an evil spell did befall Job.
Now ask yourself this, how did Job view all of his misfortune? Through his trials Job did not look upon satan as the source of his troubles, but that he looked upon God. And Job, being a righteous man remained a righteous man by not blaming God in one bit. By doing so, he remained faithful in God.
The lesson here is even in the face of evil, Job did not even look upon the devil for the cause of his troubles. It is justice when a thief is caught, but an insult if he is not even seen as a petty thief.
Even in Job 42:11 it does say the Lord brought evil unto Job, but by the Lord's decree Job remained a faithful man to God.
I pray and hope this helps, Maz
Love HB
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You know this story; it was a contest between God and satan, where the devil said "job would curse God should evil befall him." So God agreed to let satan have his way with him but not to kill him.
From this perspective it is easy to see that God was in control, for satan could not do anything onto Job unless God allowed it, and God did, and surely an evil spell did befall Job.
Now ask yourself this, how did Job view all of his misfortune? Through his trials Job did not look upon satan as the source of his troubles, but that he looked upon God. And Job, being a righteous man remained a righteous man by not blaming God in one bit. By doing so, he remained faithful in God.
The lesson here is even in the face of evil, Job did not even look upon the devil for the cause of his troubles. It is justice when a thief is caught, but an insult if he is not even seen as a petty thief.
Even in Job 42:11 it does say the Lord brought evil unto Job, but by the Lord's decree Job remained a faithful man to God.
I pray and hope this helps, Maz
Love HB
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Yes, the Job story is pretty much the pinnacle of all this...it is very deep...
Whenever I'm going through something trying or down right horrible, I always take a step back and pray to see what God is trying to show me. It helps me to look at my troubles from that perspective. It makes life's trial a lot easier to manage.
I have found myself in trouble when I just thought I had to have that.
My husband always says I had the syndrome (see the word sin in that) but
I just always wanted one of those or I think it would be great to live there and
so on.
In my past I forgot to ask God what was His will. Now I have learned God's ways and let Him do the leading. I surely have made mistakes when God was never
consulted.
He is molding me everyday. Thank you Lord! You haven't given up on me!
My husband always says I had the syndrome (see the word sin in that) but
I just always wanted one of those or I think it would be great to live there and
so on.
In my past I forgot to ask God what was His will. Now I have learned God's ways and let Him do the leading. I surely have made mistakes when God was never
consulted.
He is molding me everyday. Thank you Lord! You haven't given up on me!
Well...... In Karate my instructor had me work with the new men and young boys coming in to class 
...I'd spared with them and taught them how to protect themselves when sparing with the other men. I could teach them because they were so "green" and they were eager to learn not to look "stupid" sparing on their fist time on the floor. All the men really appriciated me teaching and helping them know the "tricks" the others would pull them to get them to leave themselves open for a strike. 
I had been working with a young boy around sixteen. He was a nice kid, a strong fighter but let his temper rule him and when he did it left him open for strikes all the time and didn't understand why. I felt sorry for him. For I had one of my son's working out too...only on different days. Although we were only to strike the person lightly some didn't... and he was one of them. I had been working with him while his father sat on the side lines. His father was over weight by about 150's walked with a cane and an EX-KKK and a real loud mouth red neck( don't get me wrong I like some rednecks)...and always putting his son down. Just giving you some background here before I totally embarrass myself here over the net... All the men knew I was a Christian. Most of the men were not and my instructor was Jewish. Well this pictular day...I had my full of his dad and I laid into him and read his the riot act (I didn't swear) but I told him that he was mean spirited, overly demanding, to critical and him being an X-KKK didn't scare me one bit. Men with mouths like you are bullies, on a real one to one you couldn't fight your way out of a papper bag....that's way you need your buddies like the KKK to back you up. He told me no ones talk to me that...EVER. I said, I am and I just did. What are you going to do beat me up? He got up and walk out of the room. All the guys were wide-eyed....and slackedjawed. And I'm going...what? what? You see I was always pretty easy going and soft spoken....Oh, I could get real excited and talk real fast...but, I wasn't loud. That day I was loud, angry and giving him a piece of my mind. I had had it with him all those months putting the boy down.....and I snapped. 
Now this is where it gets interesting Maz......hours later I'm home and saying my prayers when the Lord said to me, "You shamed me. You are the only Christian there and they look up to you. You must ask him to forgive you and you must do it in public because you said it in public." I said,"Gee, Lord he treats people so mean and he is so mean to his son! Why must I ask for forgiveness?" The Lord said, "Because is wasn't what you said that was wrong, but the way you said it and how you said it. You spoke the truth but that is not the way a Christian is to behave you are to set an example." I said, "Awww....geeee Lord....the guys whill think I'm a coward or whimp asking for forgiveness. Can't I tell him before class starts?" He said,"No. You embarrassed publicly now you must ask forgiveness publicly." I said,"Okay Lord, I'll do it....I don't want to .....but I will...Awwwww...geeee I just hate looking stupid." The Lord was silent. Believe you me....I did not want to go and do that....I was hoping he wouldn't show but sure enough he walked in the door with his son...and was glaring at me as we were all sitting on the floor doing some stretches. His son came over and sat not far from me and lowered his eyes when he looked at me. Just then I said out loud...."Bob....I need everyone attention for a few minutes if that's okay?" He knew for me to speak up like that that it was something very important....and he had a lot of trust in me....I always spoke the truth to him and defended Israel and the Jewish people in converstations before and after class. "Well, here it goes Mr. Smith I want to ask for your forgiveness in the way I spoke to you the other day. I know this is going to sound far out to some people here including you but the Lord spoke to me last night and told me to ask for forgiveness in the way I spoke to you and that I shamed him because of my actions as a Christian." You could hear a pin drop in the room. Again the guys eyes were popped-open and once again their mouths slackedjawed. I thought to myself....what an idiot....telling them the Lord spoke to me....now they'll not only think I'm weird because I talk about the Rapture and the bad suff of the New Age....they'll think I'm nuts because the Lord speaks to me. Then Mr. Smith said, "I forgive you. At first I was so angry I had to walk out of the room yesterday because I really did want to beat you up! When I got home and cooled down I did a lot of thinking and you were right in what you said. So I had a long talk with my son and things are better now between us. And I am not angry with you. Thank you for having the courage to tell me this I know it wasn't easy for you after your outburst yesterday." I said,"Thank...you." The Bob started the class. It was pretty quiet though and this made me feel uneasy. The next day when I came to class the guys told me that they were proud of me...they said it took a lot of courage to both.....speak my mind and then apologize publicily. They said none of them would have done either even though they felt like saying the same things I did. So you see.....even when you make a complete fool of yourself....the Lord can still redeem you. 
...I'd spared with them and taught them how to protect themselves when sparing with the other men. I could teach them because they were so "green" and they were eager to learn not to look "stupid" sparing on their fist time on the floor. All the men really appriciated me teaching and helping them know the "tricks" the others would pull them to get them to leave themselves open for a strike. I had been working with a young boy around sixteen. He was a nice kid, a strong fighter but let his temper rule him and when he did it left him open for strikes all the time and didn't understand why. I felt sorry for him. For I had one of my son's working out too...only on different days. Although we were only to strike the person lightly some didn't... and he was one of them. I had been working with him while his father sat on the side lines. His father was over weight by about 150's walked with a cane and an EX-KKK and a real loud mouth red neck( don't get me wrong I like some rednecks)...and always putting his son down. Just giving you some background here before I totally embarrass myself here over the net... All the men knew I was a Christian. Most of the men were not and my instructor was Jewish. Well this pictular day...I had my full of his dad and I laid into him and read his the riot act (I didn't swear) but I told him that he was mean spirited, overly demanding, to critical and him being an X-KKK didn't scare me one bit. Men with mouths like you are bullies, on a real one to one you couldn't fight your way out of a papper bag....that's way you need your buddies like the KKK to back you up. He told me no ones talk to me that...EVER. I said, I am and I just did. What are you going to do beat me up? He got up and walk out of the room. All the guys were wide-eyed....and slackedjawed. And I'm going...what? what? You see I was always pretty easy going and soft spoken....Oh, I could get real excited and talk real fast...but, I wasn't loud. That day I was loud, angry and giving him a piece of my mind. I had had it with him all those months putting the boy down.....and I snapped. Now this is where it gets interesting Maz......hours later I'm home and saying my prayers when the Lord said to me, "You shamed me. You are the only Christian there and they look up to you. You must ask him to forgive you and you must do it in public because you said it in public." I said,"Gee, Lord he treats people so mean and he is so mean to his son! Why must I ask for forgiveness?" The Lord said, "Because is wasn't what you said that was wrong, but the way you said it and how you said it. You spoke the truth but that is not the way a Christian is to behave you are to set an example." I said, "Awww....geeee Lord....the guys whill think I'm a coward or whimp asking for forgiveness. Can't I tell him before class starts?" He said,"No. You embarrassed publicly now you must ask forgiveness publicly." I said,"Okay Lord, I'll do it....I don't want to .....but I will...Awwwww...geeee I just hate looking stupid." The Lord was silent. Believe you me....I did not want to go and do that....I was hoping he wouldn't show but sure enough he walked in the door with his son...and was glaring at me as we were all sitting on the floor doing some stretches. His son came over and sat not far from me and lowered his eyes when he looked at me. Just then I said out loud...."Bob....I need everyone attention for a few minutes if that's okay?" He knew for me to speak up like that that it was something very important....and he had a lot of trust in me....I always spoke the truth to him and defended Israel and the Jewish people in converstations before and after class. "Well, here it goes Mr. Smith I want to ask for your forgiveness in the way I spoke to you the other day. I know this is going to sound far out to some people here including you but the Lord spoke to me last night and told me to ask for forgiveness in the way I spoke to you and that I shamed him because of my actions as a Christian." You could hear a pin drop in the room. Again the guys eyes were popped-open and once again their mouths slackedjawed. I thought to myself....what an idiot....telling them the Lord spoke to me....now they'll not only think I'm weird because I talk about the Rapture and the bad suff of the New Age....they'll think I'm nuts because the Lord speaks to me. Then Mr. Smith said, "I forgive you. At first I was so angry I had to walk out of the room yesterday because I really did want to beat you up! When I got home and cooled down I did a lot of thinking and you were right in what you said. So I had a long talk with my son and things are better now between us. And I am not angry with you. Thank you for having the courage to tell me this I know it wasn't easy for you after your outburst yesterday." I said,"Thank...you." The Bob started the class. It was pretty quiet though and this made me feel uneasy. The next day when I came to class the guys told me that they were proud of me...they said it took a lot of courage to both.....speak my mind and then apologize publicily. They said none of them would have done either even though they felt like saying the same things I did. So you see.....even when you make a complete fool of yourself....the Lord can still redeem you.
Here is a song that I sing all of the time. Wonder if family members are getting sick of it-hope not because I am probably going to sing it in the morning again. Just can't help it.
I don't know how I survived in this cold and emtpy world for all this time,
but now I know why I'm alive because you love me.
When I recall what I've been through, there's some things that I wish I didn't do,but now I do the things I do because you love me.
Now that you're in my life, I'm so glad I 'm alive
Cause You love me.
I believe in things unseen
I believe in the message of a dream
And I believe in who you are because you love me
Sang this to my husband on our 25th anniversary last year
But he knew he came in second and I was really singing it to our Lord.
God has blessed me with the most wonderful husband,but my first love
is Jesus Christ and it is his. God is our strength and He is the center
of our marriage.
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\God bless you all- just wanted to share
I don't know how I survived in this cold and emtpy world for all this time,
but now I know why I'm alive because you love me.
When I recall what I've been through, there's some things that I wish I didn't do,but now I do the things I do because you love me.
Now that you're in my life, I'm so glad I 'm alive
Cause You love me.
I believe in things unseen
I believe in the message of a dream
And I believe in who you are because you love me
Sang this to my husband on our 25th anniversary last year
But he knew he came in second and I was really singing it to our Lord.
God has blessed me with the most wonderful husband,but my first love
is Jesus Christ and it is his. God is our strength and He is the center
of our marriage.
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\God bless you all- just wanted to share
QUOTE(God's Lamb @ Jan 14 2006, 12:46 AM)
Well...... In Karate my instructor had me work with the new men and young boys coming in to class ...I'd spared with them and taught them how to protect themselves when sparing with the other men. I could teach them because they were so "green" and they were eager to learn not to look "stupid" sparing on their fist time on the floor. All the men really appriciated me teaching and helping them know the "tricks" the others would pull them to get them to leave themselves open for a strike. I had been working with a young boy around sixteen. He was a nice kid, a strong fighter but let his temper rule him and when he did it left him open for strikes all the time and didn't understand why. I felt sorry for him. For I had one of my son's working out too...only on different days. Although we were only to strike the person lightly some didn't... and he was one of them. I had been working with him while his father sat on the side lines. His father was over weight by about 150's walked with a cane and an EX-KKK and a real loud mouth red neck( don't get me wrong I like some rednecks)...and always putting his son down. Just giving you some background here before I totally embarrass myself here over the net... All the men knew I was a Christian. Most of the men were not and my instructor was Jewish. Well this pictular day...I had my full of his dad and I laid into him and read his the riot act (I didn't swear) but I told him that he was mean spirited, overly demanding, to critical and him being an X-KKK didn't scare me one bit. Men with mouths like you are bullies, on a real one to one you couldn't fight your way out of a papper bag....that's way you need your buddies like the KKK to back you up. He told me no ones talk to me that...EVER. I said, I am and I just did. What are you going to do beat me up? He got up and walk out of the room. All the guys were wide-eyed....and slackedjawed. And I'm going...what? what? You see I was always pretty easy going and soft spoken....Oh, I could get real excited and talk real fast...but, I wasn't loud. That day I was loud, angry and giving him a piece of my mind. I had had it with him all those months putting the boy down.....and I snapped. Now this is where it gets interesting Maz......hours later I'm home and saying my prayers when the Lord said to me, "You shamed me. You are the only Christian there and they look up to you. You must ask him to forgive you and you must do it in public because you said it in public." I said,"Gee, Lord he treats people so mean and he is so mean to his son! Why must I ask for forgiveness?" The Lord said, "Because is wasn't what you said that was wrong, but the way you said it and how you said it. You spoke the truth but that is not the way a Christian is to behave you are to set an example." I said, "Awww....geeee Lord....the guys whill think I'm a coward or whimp asking for forgiveness. Can't I tell him before class starts?" He said,"No. You embarrassed publicly now you must ask forgiveness publicly." I said,"Okay Lord, I'll do it....I don't want to .....but I will...Awwwww...geeee I just hate looking stupid." The Lord was silent. Believe you me....I did not want to go and do that....I was hoping he wouldn't show but sure enough he walked in the door with his son...and was glaring at me as we were all sitting on the floor doing some stretches. His son came over and sat not far from me and lowered his eyes when he looked at me. Just then I said out loud...."Bob....I need everyone attention for a few minutes if that's okay?" He knew for me to speak up like that that it was something very important....and he had a lot of trust in me....I always spoke the truth to him and defended Israel and the Jewish people in converstations before and after class. "Well, here it goes Mr. Smith I want to ask for your forgiveness in the way I spoke to you the other day. I know this is going to sound far out to some people here including you but the Lord spoke to me last night and told me to ask for forgiveness in the way I spoke to you and that I shamed him because of my actions as a Christian." You could hear a pin drop in the room. Again the guys eyes were popped-open and once again their mouths slackedjawed. I thought to myself....what an idiot....telling them the Lord spoke to me....now they'll not only think I'm weird because I talk about the Rapture and the bad suff of the New Age....they'll think I'm nuts because the Lord speaks to me. Then Mr. Smith said, "I forgive you. At first I was so angry I had to walk out of the room yesterday because I really did want to beat you up! When I got home and cooled down I did a lot of thinking and you were right in what you said. So I had a long talk with my son and things are better now between us. And I am not angry with you. Thank you for having the courage to tell me this I know it wasn't easy for you after your outburst yesterday." I said,"Thank...you." The Bob started the class. It was pretty quiet though and this made me feel uneasy. The next day when I came to class the guys told me that they were proud of me...they said it took a lot of courage to both.....speak my mind and then apologize publicily. They said none of them would have done either even though they felt like saying the same things I did. So you see.....even when you make a complete fool of yourself....the Lord can still redeem you.
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...I'd spared with them and taught them how to protect themselves when sparing with the other men. I could teach them because they were so "green" and they were eager to learn not to look "stupid" sparing on their fist time on the floor. All the men really appriciated me teaching and helping them know the "tricks" the others would pull them to get them to leave themselves open for a strike. I had been working with a young boy around sixteen. He was a nice kid, a strong fighter but let his temper rule him and when he did it left him open for strikes all the time and didn't understand why. I felt sorry for him. For I had one of my son's working out too...only on different days. Although we were only to strike the person lightly some didn't... and he was one of them. I had been working with him while his father sat on the side lines. His father was over weight by about 150's walked with a cane and an EX-KKK and a real loud mouth red neck( don't get me wrong I like some rednecks)...and always putting his son down. Just giving you some background here before I totally embarrass myself here over the net... All the men knew I was a Christian. Most of the men were not and my instructor was Jewish. Well this pictular day...I had my full of his dad and I laid into him and read his the riot act (I didn't swear) but I told him that he was mean spirited, overly demanding, to critical and him being an X-KKK didn't scare me one bit. Men with mouths like you are bullies, on a real one to one you couldn't fight your way out of a papper bag....that's way you need your buddies like the KKK to back you up. He told me no ones talk to me that...EVER. I said, I am and I just did. What are you going to do beat me up? He got up and walk out of the room. All the guys were wide-eyed....and slackedjawed. And I'm going...what? what? You see I was always pretty easy going and soft spoken....Oh, I could get real excited and talk real fast...but, I wasn't loud. That day I was loud, angry and giving him a piece of my mind. I had had it with him all those months putting the boy down.....and I snapped. Now this is where it gets interesting Maz......hours later I'm home and saying my prayers when the Lord said to me, "You shamed me. You are the only Christian there and they look up to you. You must ask him to forgive you and you must do it in public because you said it in public." I said,"Gee, Lord he treats people so mean and he is so mean to his son! Why must I ask for forgiveness?" The Lord said, "Because is wasn't what you said that was wrong, but the way you said it and how you said it. You spoke the truth but that is not the way a Christian is to behave you are to set an example." I said, "Awww....geeee Lord....the guys whill think I'm a coward or whimp asking for forgiveness. Can't I tell him before class starts?" He said,"No. You embarrassed publicly now you must ask forgiveness publicly." I said,"Okay Lord, I'll do it....I don't want to .....but I will...Awwwww...geeee I just hate looking stupid." The Lord was silent. Believe you me....I did not want to go and do that....I was hoping he wouldn't show but sure enough he walked in the door with his son...and was glaring at me as we were all sitting on the floor doing some stretches. His son came over and sat not far from me and lowered his eyes when he looked at me. Just then I said out loud...."Bob....I need everyone attention for a few minutes if that's okay?" He knew for me to speak up like that that it was something very important....and he had a lot of trust in me....I always spoke the truth to him and defended Israel and the Jewish people in converstations before and after class. "Well, here it goes Mr. Smith I want to ask for your forgiveness in the way I spoke to you the other day. I know this is going to sound far out to some people here including you but the Lord spoke to me last night and told me to ask for forgiveness in the way I spoke to you and that I shamed him because of my actions as a Christian." You could hear a pin drop in the room. Again the guys eyes were popped-open and once again their mouths slackedjawed. I thought to myself....what an idiot....telling them the Lord spoke to me....now they'll not only think I'm weird because I talk about the Rapture and the bad suff of the New Age....they'll think I'm nuts because the Lord speaks to me. Then Mr. Smith said, "I forgive you. At first I was so angry I had to walk out of the room yesterday because I really did want to beat you up! When I got home and cooled down I did a lot of thinking and you were right in what you said. So I had a long talk with my son and things are better now between us. And I am not angry with you. Thank you for having the courage to tell me this I know it wasn't easy for you after your outburst yesterday." I said,"Thank...you." The Bob started the class. It was pretty quiet though and this made me feel uneasy. The next day when I came to class the guys told me that they were proud of me...they said it took a lot of courage to both.....speak my mind and then apologize publicily. They said none of them would have done either even though they felt like saying the same things I did. So you see.....even when you make a complete fool of yourself....the Lord can still redeem you. [right][snapback]33947[/snapback][/right]
Thanks for posting that and how you listened to what God was telling you.
That was a very inspirational story. You have blessed me!
I do stupid things all of the time and hate it when I do. I just wonder why I keep doing them. If only I would remember that they are stupid before I do it LOL!
Wow....that was beautiful RosieLovesJesus!!! Does someone have that song on tape or CD??? So sweet to sing that to your husband. I sang this to my husband on our first anniversity. "To my life , my love, my turtle-dove.......Life with you is great it seems....I love you more than "pork and beans". We will be celebrating our 40th anniversity in April...
Gee Maz I feel rather stupid...right now after that long letter...that I just wrote.
I guess I didn't quite catch the meaning of what you wanted... Now.. how's that for missing my mark! I think I hear my Mommie calling..... God Bless. marie
I sang this to my husband on our first anniversity. "To my life , my love, my turtle-dove.......Life with you is great it seems....I love you more than "pork and beans". We will be celebrating our 40th anniversity in April... Gee Maz I feel rather stupid...right now after that long letter...that I just wrote.
I guess I didn't quite catch the meaning of what you wanted... Now.. how's that for missing my mark! I think I hear my Mommie calling..... God Bless. marie
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Wow....that was beautiful RosieLovesJesus!!! Does someone have that song on tape or CD??? So sweet to sing that to your husband. I sang this to my husband on our first anniversity. "To my life , my love, my turtle-dove.......Life with you is great it seems....I love you more than "pork and beans". We will be celebrating our 40th anniversity in April...
Gee Maz I feel rather stupid...right now after that long letter...that I just wrote. I guess I didn't quite catch the meaning of what you wanted... Now.. how's that for missing my mark! I think I hear my Mommie calling..... God Bless. marie
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I sang this to my husband on our first anniversity. "To my life , my love, my turtle-dove.......Life with you is great it seems....I love you more than "pork and beans". We will be celebrating our 40th anniversity in April... Gee Maz I feel rather stupid...right now after that long letter...that I just wrote.
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Yes that is on a CD somewhere. I will have to look it up. I heard it and keep on singing it. I loved what you sang to your husband more than pork and beans
You are a riot I don't think you missed the point. I loved what you wrote great message there.
I got a lot out of that. Wait a minute Maz did I miss the point too.
I hear God's Lamb's mommy calling me too
Gee Maz I know you are serious on this subject and i was surprised I came in with a thought as quick as I did. Unfortunately I don't think it had anything to do with what you asked.
Okay I am getting silly. I am tired-so I better get to bed.
I'm tired everyday lately-so watch out, cause I don't get cranky-I just get silly.
Ask my kids. Silly is a norm for their mom.
Oh, Gee.....Oh Gosh.....RosieLoveJesus.....I could be your long lost twin.....I'm always doing stupid things... but at 61 you'd think I'd learn... I knew we were kindredspirits! And I love your posts or threads whatever they are called... I think you have a much sweeter spirit then me...I have to carry around a case of duck tape for my mouth. God Bless You Rosie girl 
marie
but at 61 you'd think I'd learn... I knew we were kindredspirits! And I love your posts or threads whatever they are called... I think you have a much sweeter spirit then me...I have to carry around a case of duck tape for my mouth. God Bless You Rosie girl marie
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Oh, Gee.....Oh Gosh.....RosieLoveJesus.....I could be your long lost twin.....I'm always doing stupid things... but at 61 you'd think I'd learn... I knew we were kindredspirits! And I love your posts or threads whatever they are called... I think you have a much sweeter spirit then me...I have to carry around a case of duck tape for my mouth. God Bless You Rosie girl marie
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but at 61 you'd think I'd learn... I knew we were kindredspirits! And I love your posts or threads whatever they are called... I think you have a much sweeter spirit then me...I have to carry around a case of duck tape for my mouth. God Bless You Rosie girl marie[right][snapback]33953[/snapback][/right]
Hey God's Lamb we are kindredspirits. That I feel too. You do have a sweet spirit. I feel it in your posts. I need duck tape too, but unfortunately when I read duck tape at the store, I thought it was for my ducks when they get an injured wing or something.
Just kidding-thought I was making a joke you did see my hair in the picuture right? 
I made a blonde joke on myself. Wow I think I am getting better. I can make a joke on myself. I used to get annoyed when others told me a blonde joke. Why I wanted to run and get the duck tape to put on their mouths. Now how sweet is that? Oh boy this has been fun God's Lamb. But now I must say nighty night.
It is late here. God bless you and I am happy you are here.
God's Lamb...........I liked your story .
( as a complete aside ....it has been said on the Forum that Karate is occult and not to be dabbled with . Yet it seems like your being in that environment was God's purpose . )
BTW I thought you were a woman .
( as a complete aside ....it has been said on the Forum that Karate is occult and not to be dabbled with . Yet it seems like your being in that environment was God's purpose . )
BTW I thought you were a woman .
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God's Lamb...........I liked your story .
( as a complete aside ....it has been said on the Forum that Karate is occult and not to be dabbled with . Yet it seems like your being in that environment was God's purpose . )
BTW I thought you were a woman .
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( as a complete aside ....it has been said on the Forum that Karate is occult and not to be dabbled with . Yet it seems like your being in that environment was God's purpose . )
BTW I thought you were a woman .
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Oh, Simplebaby, you'll have to forgive me on this, but you did step into it when you said it. What if God's Lamb is a woman? After all God's Lamb does sign her (?) posts marie. And God's Lamb, I'll have to apologize if I assumed wrong, but I'll just play safe and think of you as God's Lamb teee he he ha ha
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