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hannah fievel
So what does anyone think about this...is who we are in Christ related to our ancestors background?

Afterall, we only use 10% of our brain, what is stored into the rest? Could possibly our whole families memories be stored just like our physical makeup is of all those who have come before us? Which could account for some weird things like de ja vue. But, just as we are who we are physically by our genetic makeup...What would prevent our minds from "storing past history of those who came before us" like Spiritual genes? We are three things also, physical, mental, and spiritual beings...so "what do you guys say"??? the curious one, hannah bananah smile.gif
Shekel
Since the spiritual man and "spiritual heredity" (if there be such a thing) is non-physical by very definition, it then has nothing to do with the physical brain.

It is an interesting thought, but in my opinion the notion seems more in keeping with reincarnation that Christianity.
hannah fievel
QUOTE(Shekel @ Jan 10 2006, 03:02 PM)
Since the spiritual man and "spiritual heredity" (if there be such a thing) is non-physical by very definition, it then has nothing to do with the physical brain.

It is an interesting thought, but in my opinion the notion seems more in keeping with reincarnation that Christianity.
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I hope I didn't say what I am trying to say wrong...this is far from anything "reincarnation". As a matter of fact, I was trying to show the opposite.

We know that satan likes to immatate the Lord. So, if he has some believing they lived before by things like "past memories"....what I was trying to say is "we are the make up of all our ancestors before us". Not that we lived before...just that we may still have "spiritually inherited" thoughts, ideas, places, peoples, through spiritual wisdom from our ancestors. Does that help what I am trying to say? YSIC hannah smile.gif
Simple
big chestnut Hannah .

Good luck
onetiggerroo
Ancestry is only a part of who we are genetically, although I have some traits that are simular to my grandparents, an my parents. My sister and brother, are on a totally different plane! I fly solo...So low under the radar it hurts. Just joking...We gentiles are adopted into the famliy of God through Jesus Blood. Doesn't mean the genetics aren't there...we just didn't know they were there.!

Since I am "Part" Native American Indian, this question intrigues me. I hate the term "part". Either you are or you aren't. There were no in-between's. Jesus, came so that "All" of us can come before the Father, who gives us life. The other parts are not important when trying to figure out which genes we have that relates us to Christ. If you divide my genes you will find I am a mutt.


I probably have some Jewish blood in there somewhere too.....

DNA will not get me into heaven, only my belief in Jesus, will do that. So, I am adopted into His presence and have become joint heirs with Him, through Him and of Him.....

Thank God for the adoption processes!

In speaking of parts, genes, I wonder which part of the Bride of Christ I'll be? The Part Native American part, or the unknown parts I don't know about yet????

This ought to get ya'll laughing!

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hannah fievel
QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ Jan 10 2006, 04:26 PM)
Ancestry is only a part of who we are genetically, although I have some traits that are simular to my grandparents, an my parents.  My sister and brother, are on a totally different plane!  I fly solo...So low under the radar it hurts.  Just joking...We gentiles are adopted into the famliy of God through Jesus Blood.  Doesn't mean the genetics aren't there...we just didn't know they were there.!

Since I am "Part" Native American Indian, this question intrigues me.  I hate the term "part".  Either you are or you aren't.  There were no in-between's.  Jesus, came so that "All" of us can come before the Father, who gives us life. The other parts are not important when trying to figure out which genes we have that relates us to Christ.  If you divide my genes you will find I am a mutt.


I probably have some Jewish blood in there somewhere too.....

DNA will not get me into heaven, only my belief in Jesus, will do that.  So, I am adopted into His presence and have become joint heirs with Him, through Him and of Him.....

Thank God for the adoption processes!

In speaking of parts, genes, I wonder which part of the Bride of Christ I'll be?  The Part Native American part, or the unknown parts I don't know about yet????

This ought to get ya'll laughing!

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Okay, you are funny, and I am rolling. laugh.gif But, still no one is getting what I am trying to say. Our physical body is made up of "all our genetic family parts" why wouldn't our "spiritual body" not have an equivalent value as to who we are?

Alright, you are, sorry to use the word but, part native american...in your lineage are there some members in tune with "spirit guides"? Now, I am not racial profiling, not at all, my hubby is part native american and so are my kids! And, my grandson is half afro american, half white, part jewish, part english, part dutch, part spanish, and yes, I could go on and on...what I am trying to say is like, kinda what you said, "you are similiar to your parents, but your sis and bro are on another world". Same here...I live in His spiritual world along with my immediate family, and the rest of my family live in another world, way different from mine.

But in the spiritual world of the unseen there are "familiar spirits that stay with families" so, that could explain why you are different from your syblings. They are under the influences of familiar spirits that know your entire family lines! Each affecting each person differently. Now, it should be at least fair that since "evil spirits can know our lineage", wouldn't it be fair that the Lord has somehow instilled in each of us "ancient knowledge that our ancestors already dealt with".

Here is something I guess kinda odd about me. I was named after my great grandmother, she died a herion addict...okay, I come along....I don't have an agenda when I get here...I am a baby...as a teen and young adult I hated God...then, whammo, during an overdose HE shows up...I become a child of the Most High... Now was it a coincedence that I became I drug addict or was it something instilled in my families old spiritual nature passed down from generation to generation?

She also was a spanish blooded gypsy who read palms and told fortunes by tea leaves and all previous women in my family have "called themselves witches"....I ended up in the new age movement.....Another coincedence? Or was I drawn to these things because they were part of my less than perfect "spiritual makeup".

Of course NOW I BE COVERED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB, PRAISE THE LORD. Just over the last year I have learned about a lot about the realm of those things SPIRITUAL. I have chosen to stop looking at the world for answers, some things you can only desern if you are willing to accept them into your spiritual heart and see with spiritual eyes, and listen with spiritual ears. I don't know exactly "what, and why such a sudden change in how I now see things" I have been walking with the Lord more than thirty years, but only in this past year, have I noticed "something different" in my own spirit.

So, anyone, does that make some sense? Am I getting better at explaining our "spiritual natures" and can we get off genetics, as that is "physical". I am expressing a thought about "who we are spiritually"....we can all see who we are in the physical realm, I am trying to dig in a little deeper here...into the things unseen, you know that "Wonderful Supernatural Realm that He lives in", amen! Y crazy SIC, hannah smile.gif
onetiggerroo
wub.gif O Hannah, I'm supposed to be asking you the questions! 144,000 of them.... wub.gif

More seriously though, I hope that this helps you.

The Bible tells us that we are both physical and spiritual beings. Two entities together in one form. Look at Jesus and his trasfiguration after death. The disciples could touch Him and they recognised Him, yet His physical body had changed.

The physical body is corruptable, the spiritual body is incorruptable.
I think what you are looking for can be found in I Corinthians 15: 35-54 and 2 Peter 1:4

I can understand your questions about familar spirits, because it is taught also in NA groups. A familar spirit can also lead to one's harm, as its nature is not of good but of evil,and I try not to think too much on them anymore. The Bible says "familar spirits" were cast out by Jesus.

Our spiritual guide is now the Holy Spirit, one given to us by God.

When we became a Christian , or follower of Jesus, our corruptable body took on a genetic-base of Jesus. The Spiritual Body became that base through the Holy Spirit and Blood of Jesus.

Why is the blood so important? Because it is our blood that gives us life. The bloodline comes from the father's line.

The mother is the carrier of the life, but her blood is not in the new child being formed. Science has proved this. That is why Mary, being a virgin that had not known a man, could concieve by the Holy Spirit that came upon her...that is why Jesus, could be both son of man, and Son of God. He shared Mary's genes in the line of David, but was God's Holy child through the bloodline! Our spiritual body is through Jesus bloodline, therefore the gene's of our spiritual body are also His.

When we become a Christian, our old self dies, and we put on His personage, through the Holy Spirit. We become His genetic bloodline, if you will or His Child. We do not die the physical death, but a spiritual death. The second death will be for those who have not come to know Him, or those who have refused Him.

This does not mean we will totally loose the attributes (geneticly speaking) of who we are in the physical body. Remember Jesus was still recognised by the disciples. So yes, we retain the genetic codes from our heritage that makes who we are here on earth. Dr. Jack Van Impe, has done a study on this...You can visit His website at:

Jack Van Inmpe Ministries

I believe it was in a recent episode in December or Jan. or in one of his newsletters. He really explains it better than I can.

I hope that I have helped you. I will pray that you get the answer you are seeking, and let me know when you do. I will be most interested!

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Just thought I'd add one more detail...How Jesus came from the line of David. Apparently the Jewish people follow the maternal lines. Mary was of the lineage of David.
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