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There seem to be quite a few of us who have in addition to the typical aches and pains of being homesick, been feeling greater symptoms. Am always wondering what it will really be like, and more specifically what my relationship with my husband will be like. I know the Bible says we will be known as we were known and that we will neither be married nor given in marriage, but can't bend my mind around it. Honestly, I want to know my husband with the love I have for him now in addition to a greater love in Heaven. Any ideas on how things work out? I heard our old pastor once say he thinks God will allow people who worked well together on earth to be "partnered up" as we "work" in Heaven. Would love to think this were true, but think it might be a wishful thinkin' moment for him too.
QUOTE(choirgirl @ Jan 9 2006, 11:20 PM)
There seem to be quite a few of us who have in addition to the typical aches and pains of being homesick, been feeling greater symptoms. Am always wondering what it will really be like, and more specifically what my relationship with my husband will be like. I know the Bible says we will be known as we were known and that we will neither be married nor given in marriage, but can't bend my mind around it. Honestly, I want to know my husband with the love I have for him now in addition to a greater love in Heaven. Any ideas on how things work out? I heard our old pastor once say he thinks God will allow people who worked well together on earth to be "partnered up" as we "work" in Heaven. Would love to think this were true, but think it might be a wishful thinkin' moment for him too.
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I believe we will all have such love for one another in Heaven. I don't think we can
even comprehend what that love will be like, but it will be out of this world!
You will know your husband with great love-but I don't think we will know our spouses with the intimacy we do here. Help me out someone if I am wrong.
I surely don't know what God has instore for us in Heaven. I think we will be
praising Him all the time and what great love we will all have doing this.
Choirgirl-you hang in there hon. He will come for us when He is ready.
I feel your heart and I too can't wait for that day. But we must for God has
a purpose for us here. I met you didn't I? Each day has a purpose.
God bless you!
The sun has gone to rest beneath the lake,
And one by one the little stars awake;
But do not think because it slips from view,
The sun has bid the earth a last adieu.
We say the sun has gone to rest when night
Drops a veil that dims the mortal sight;
But it has risen on another world,
The petals of its golden bloom unfurled,
And there the robin in the treetop sings,
And warmth and light awake all waiting things.
And so at rest is what we sometimes say
Of that dear one who gently slipped away;
But he has simply vanished from the earth
To find elsewhere a new and glorious birth;
Lost to our sight a little tearful while,
His tender voice, his quick and eager smile.
But surely as the faithful, rising sun
Returns to bless our eyes, so will this one
Be waiting when the dawn of dawns appears,
So put away your sorrow and your tears,
And know that you will see him face to face,
Whose light already shines in that far place,
by Lois Parrish
But I say you can cry anytime.It cleanses the soul.
There are times we need to cry.
And one by one the little stars awake;
But do not think because it slips from view,
The sun has bid the earth a last adieu.
We say the sun has gone to rest when night
Drops a veil that dims the mortal sight;
But it has risen on another world,
The petals of its golden bloom unfurled,
And there the robin in the treetop sings,
And warmth and light awake all waiting things.
And so at rest is what we sometimes say
Of that dear one who gently slipped away;
But he has simply vanished from the earth
To find elsewhere a new and glorious birth;
Lost to our sight a little tearful while,
His tender voice, his quick and eager smile.
But surely as the faithful, rising sun
Returns to bless our eyes, so will this one
Be waiting when the dawn of dawns appears,
So put away your sorrow and your tears,
And know that you will see him face to face,
Whose light already shines in that far place,
by Lois Parrish
But I say you can cry anytime.It cleanses the soul.
There are times we need to cry.
Just as Jesus on Earth loved each person differently and specially—he did not love John as he loved Peter, because John was not Peter—so we are designed to love people specially. There is no reason why this specialness should be removed, rather than added to, in eternity. In this life a child begins to learn to love by loving mother, then father, then siblings, then pets. The concentric circles of love are then gradually expanded, but the beginning lessons are never abandoned. There is no reason to think God rips up this plan
If we had no "inside information," we could only speculate. Fortunately, we have some solid data to build on: divine revelation. I think God wants us to use our reason and also our imagination (for why should we neglect any God-given faculty) to explore the treasure of tantalizing hints in Scripture. To be indifferent to it is to be like the unprofitable servant who hid his master's talent in the ground.
In having this data, we are in a position very different from that of the unbeliever (or rather, the difference lies in our believing the data, for the whole human race has it; it is public). We are like the sighted compared to the blind, who can only speculate about things visible. We can do more than speculate about things invisible.
"What do you know about Heaven, anyway? Have you ever been there?" We can answer this challenge: "No, but I have a very good Friend who has. He came here and told us about it and showed it to us. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life."
If we had no "inside information," we could only speculate. Fortunately, we have some solid data to build on: divine revelation. I think God wants us to use our reason and also our imagination (for why should we neglect any God-given faculty) to explore the treasure of tantalizing hints in Scripture. To be indifferent to it is to be like the unprofitable servant who hid his master's talent in the ground.
In having this data, we are in a position very different from that of the unbeliever (or rather, the difference lies in our believing the data, for the whole human race has it; it is public). We are like the sighted compared to the blind, who can only speculate about things visible. We can do more than speculate about things invisible.
"What do you know about Heaven, anyway? Have you ever been there?" We can answer this challenge: "No, but I have a very good Friend who has. He came here and told us about it and showed it to us. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life."
There will be a new earth and a new heaven. Great ...and the righteous shall inherit the....................?
God is making going to make a new earth for us. Heaven is for God and the angles and finally I believe we will be here on the new earth.
Unless I am reading it wrong? 
otherwise, why make a new earth???
love you
Cornelius
God is making going to make a new earth for us. Heaven is for God and the angles and finally I believe we will be here on the new earth.
Unless I am reading it wrong?
otherwise, why make a new earth???love you
Cornelius
Maybe we get both!! 
Love you too Corny xx
Love you too Corny xx
No offense meant to the first poster but this question was raised in a small group from my church some years back by a women who had a very strong marriage.
I suggested that the special intimacy she felt towards her husband (not physical nor the memory of it) would be experienced between all of us. It wouldn't be unique. She was was offended by such a thought. She wanted him all to herself.
Many people elevate the marriage relationship above all else. They block out others and get lost in themselves. I call it spiritual adultery. They rely on each other more than God. When one of them dies life comes to a screaming halt.
We will know as we are known....and no bad get's in....
I suggested that the special intimacy she felt towards her husband (not physical nor the memory of it) would be experienced between all of us. It wouldn't be unique. She was was offended by such a thought. She wanted him all to herself.
Many people elevate the marriage relationship above all else. They block out others and get lost in themselves. I call it spiritual adultery. They rely on each other more than God. When one of them dies life comes to a screaming halt.
We will know as we are known....and no bad get's in....
I think: We get resurrected into our new bodies. We have the new earth. And there is a new heaven...and we get to walk with God again like Adam did. As friends.
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
"One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith".
Ya...sad isn't it...
Ya...sad isn't it...
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I suggested that the special intimacy she felt towards her husband (not physical nor the memory of it) would be experienced between all of us. It wouldn't be unique. She was was offended by such a thought. She wanted him all to herself.
Many people elevate the marriage relationship above all else. They block out others and get lost in themselves. I call it spiritual adultery. They rely on each other more than God. When one of them dies life comes to a screaming halt.
Many people elevate the marriage relationship above all else. They block out others and get lost in themselves. I call it spiritual adultery. They rely on each other more than God. When one of them dies life comes to a screaming halt.
I don't think that way at all. The only one who knows me more intimately than my husband is my Savior. The very fact that the Bible calls the church His Bride indicates the closeness we should feel for/with our spouse. Marriages are respected in the Bible and the analogy used often for our relationship with God. It is His love that creates such a close and loving marriage here on earth. So, I can see our having that perfected intimacy with Him when we are in Heaven, but no need to be that intimate with everyone else. If the marriage relationship depicts our relationship with God, and He does not want to share us, but wants to be our first love, it only makes sense that we would feel that way about our spouses if we have strived to be godly wives. I do not find her selfish at all, but instead following the example of love directed in His word. Just like everything else falls in place after my love for God, everyone else falls in their place after that for my love for my husband. Tzeitel and Cornelius...much love and thanks for your responses!! I love when you guys post on Q's I have. Your brains seem to be similar models as mine. Maybe we'll have seats in the same section when we get there!
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 10 2006, 07:04 AM)
I think: We get resurrected into our new bodies. We have the new earth. And there is a new heaven...and we get to walk with God again like Adam did. As friends.
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
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God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
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QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 10 2006, 07:04 AM)
I think: We get resurrected into our new bodies. We have the new earth. And there is a new heaven...and we get to walk with God again like Adam did. As friends.
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
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God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
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yep im with you Cronelius.
We will live on the new earth and not many will go to heaven.
It's all good but heaven is for some. Actually from my understanding not many will see God the Father.
I don't really know about marriage and stuff.
We'll also have some sort of goverment in place but not political like we know it. We'll have roles and be leaders/rulers.
Our church is having a workshop on heaven in february so maybe i can bring some info here. It's all backed up inscripture.
Wow, great topic. I am going to give an answer that may make some sad and some glad, I dunno...but here goes.
Okay, this is harder than I thought...well, let me start off with "why this happened". I was taken to heaven by an angel of the Lords...this occured after a gigantic battle with my old pastor over the word "GRACE". This man had run his church totally from his own rules, plus the bibles rules. I happened to receive a book about there being in the beginning Two Trees in the Garden of Eden. Well, like anyone searching for His truth, I came to understand, "that I could not work my way to heaven", and my pastor asked me to leave the church, cuz I wouldn't walk in the law any more. Well, Our Awesome Lord saw my pain, and He had me in a "outward vision" lifted into heaven.
It was explained to me that the heavenly realm was the grandest of temples, and that Solomon had been given instructions to build the Temple in accordance to the way that heaven is sort of set up...now remember heaven was so much grander than anything "humans" could build...but at any rate...this is how I saw things...
First, there was Eden, Paradise in all of its glory! The outer court, where there were a number too large to count. Including lots of children of all races, creeds and colors...I asked the angel "why" so many children were here? The reply was...these are those that man cast away(abortioned children), he further explained that "the children were being taught the oracles of God by the angels and the saints that were already there".
Then I glanced and happen to notice that all of the other saints that were there, some were wearing different attire. Again, I asked "why", I was told "some come here in garments of salvation, and some come with robes of righteousness", again, "why" I was told "some accept Jesus as their Messiah but never had a relationship with Him" so they had garments and had to learn in the Garden "what they had missed here". The ones in the robes, as I remember "were those who did have a personal relationship with Jesus, and they were in the throne room, not in the Garden".
Of course "my curiousity was overwhelming, I wanted to know everything" but of course I was not privy to "everything"!! But, I continued to ask questions, like "why the inner court", which I was told was the "showbread room" where only those "who lived by the law, were to come and judge themselves by reflecting on where they forgot Messiah" as they had replaced Messiah with the law. So, in effect they also didn't have "a personal relationship with our Lord". But, as you see "all came" into heaven who believed in Jesus, but there are different places for different people who live in Christ's love.
Now, as far as "how I perceived families and such", to the best of my "own" knowledge by observing, there didn't seem to be "any" differences in how everyone "loved" anyone else. The Love was an overwhelming feeling...one too hard to describe, it was like being LOVE instead of the feeling we humans feel when we think we love. Our love is pitiful compared to that which is in Heaven! AMEN! So, I think "human love" just can't have words to explain "Heavens love", it was almost like night and day.
I pray this day, that anyone that is feeling hurt, sad, lost, alone, or any other sad feeling that Our Wonderful Comforter bring you "His awesome love touch" to anyone in need, amen, in the name of Jesus I pray, YSIC hannah fievel
PS No worries about heaven, everyone is totally fulfilled in His abundant love!
Okay, this is harder than I thought...well, let me start off with "why this happened". I was taken to heaven by an angel of the Lords...this occured after a gigantic battle with my old pastor over the word "GRACE". This man had run his church totally from his own rules, plus the bibles rules. I happened to receive a book about there being in the beginning Two Trees in the Garden of Eden. Well, like anyone searching for His truth, I came to understand, "that I could not work my way to heaven", and my pastor asked me to leave the church, cuz I wouldn't walk in the law any more. Well, Our Awesome Lord saw my pain, and He had me in a "outward vision" lifted into heaven.
It was explained to me that the heavenly realm was the grandest of temples, and that Solomon had been given instructions to build the Temple in accordance to the way that heaven is sort of set up...now remember heaven was so much grander than anything "humans" could build...but at any rate...this is how I saw things...
First, there was Eden, Paradise in all of its glory! The outer court, where there were a number too large to count. Including lots of children of all races, creeds and colors...I asked the angel "why" so many children were here? The reply was...these are those that man cast away(abortioned children), he further explained that "the children were being taught the oracles of God by the angels and the saints that were already there".
Then I glanced and happen to notice that all of the other saints that were there, some were wearing different attire. Again, I asked "why", I was told "some come here in garments of salvation, and some come with robes of righteousness", again, "why" I was told "some accept Jesus as their Messiah but never had a relationship with Him" so they had garments and had to learn in the Garden "what they had missed here". The ones in the robes, as I remember "were those who did have a personal relationship with Jesus, and they were in the throne room, not in the Garden".
Of course "my curiousity was overwhelming, I wanted to know everything" but of course I was not privy to "everything"!! But, I continued to ask questions, like "why the inner court", which I was told was the "showbread room" where only those "who lived by the law, were to come and judge themselves by reflecting on where they forgot Messiah" as they had replaced Messiah with the law. So, in effect they also didn't have "a personal relationship with our Lord". But, as you see "all came" into heaven who believed in Jesus, but there are different places for different people who live in Christ's love.
Now, as far as "how I perceived families and such", to the best of my "own" knowledge by observing, there didn't seem to be "any" differences in how everyone "loved" anyone else. The Love was an overwhelming feeling...one too hard to describe, it was like being LOVE instead of the feeling we humans feel when we think we love. Our love is pitiful compared to that which is in Heaven! AMEN! So, I think "human love" just can't have words to explain "Heavens love", it was almost like night and day.
I pray this day, that anyone that is feeling hurt, sad, lost, alone, or any other sad feeling that Our Wonderful Comforter bring you "His awesome love touch" to anyone in need, amen, in the name of Jesus I pray, YSIC hannah fievel
PS No worries about heaven, everyone is totally fulfilled in His abundant love!
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Jan 11 2006, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 10 2006, 07:04 AM)
I think: We get resurrected into our new bodies. We have the new earth. And there is a new heaven...and we get to walk with God again like Adam did. As friends.
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
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God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
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yep im with you Cronelius.
We will live on the new earth and not many will go to heaven.
It's all good but heaven is for some. Actually from my understanding not many will see God the Father.
I don't really know about marriage and stuff.
We'll also have some sort of goverment in place but not political like we know it. We'll have roles and be leaders/rulers.
Our church is having a workshop on heaven in february so maybe i can bring some info here. It's all backed up inscripture.
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Don't misunderstand me. I don't think that some will go to heaven and some to earth.I am just reading scripture and looking at the one that says "the righteous will inherit the earth" (not heaven) I also think about Adam, and what God gave to Adam (rule the planet)
If all went well, Adam would still have been here for eternity, but he is not...but also, God came to restore us. To what?....to what we were suppose to be. He's children, and companions for eternity. So my logic, takes me back to earth.
The New Jerusalem comes to earth ( the Bride is the New Jerusalem) so WE come to earth from heaven. Sparkling like a jewel.
And I believe we will again walk with God like in the beginning. No sin, only love and Life in Him.
At the moment we are in the "seed falling to the ground" era. Here all is busy dying. But HE will come and resurrect us and we will like the new plant, rise from the earth...not again as a seed,\but as something else....something wonderful.
Praise be to God , Who's plan is perfect. His salvation is perfect, His love is perfect.
Our eternity will be perfect with Him
Jesus we love You!
Cornelius
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 11 2006, 11:08 AM)
QUOTE(c-los medrano @ Jan 11 2006, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE(Cornelius @ Jan 10 2006, 07:04 AM)
I think: We get resurrected into our new bodies. We have the new earth. And there is a new heaven...and we get to walk with God again like Adam did. As friends.
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
[right][snapback]32958[/snapback][/right]
God meant for Adam to have the earth and rule over it. ....forever.
Adam failed, and God came to put that all right again. He did not remove His first plan (for man to be on earth) because Adam failed.
If you die now, you will go to heaven for a while. The Jesus is coming WITH the saints.
I just know that it will be perfect.Some things God showed Paul, he did not reveal. It is still a mystery (help me if I am wrong here...I am talking from memory). We don't know what God is preparing.
This has nothing to do with that scripture re "ear not hear, eye not seen"
that scripture is for the here and now. If you read that in context.
One day we will not believe what we have missed here on earth , because we did not take all that God provided in this great and complete salvation....by faith.
[right][snapback]32958[/snapback][/right]
yep im with you Cronelius.
We will live on the new earth and not many will go to heaven.
It's all good but heaven is for some. Actually from my understanding not many will see God the Father.
I don't really know about marriage and stuff.
We'll also have some sort of goverment in place but not political like we know it. We'll have roles and be leaders/rulers.
Our church is having a workshop on heaven in february so maybe i can bring some info here. It's all backed up inscripture.
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Don't misunderstand me. I don't think that some will go to heaven and some to earth.I am just reading scripture and looking at the one that says "the righteous will inherit the earth" (not heaven) I also think about Adam, and what God gave to Adam (rule the planet)
If all went well, Adam would still have been here for eternity, but he is not...but also, God came to restore us. To what?....to what we were suppose to be. He's children, and companions for eternity. So my logic, takes me back to earth.
The New Jerusalem comes to earth ( the Bride is the New Jerusalem) so WE come to earth from heaven. Sparkling like a jewel.
And I believe we will again walk with God like in the beginning. No sin, only love and Life in Him.
At the moment we are in the "seed falling to the ground" era. Here all is busy dying. But HE will come and resurrect us and we will like the new plant, rise from the earth...not again as a seed,\but as something else....something wonderful.
Praise be to God , Who's plan is perfect. His salvation is perfect, His love is perfect.
Our eternity will be perfect with Him
Jesus we love You!
Cornelius
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actually when i say "some" i meant by very very very few people. The apostles, prophets and such. The great majority of all mankind will be on the new earth.
QUOTE(hannah fievel @ Jan 11 2006, 10:36 AM)
Wow, great topic. I am going to give an answer that may make some sad and some glad, I dunno...but here goes.
Okay, this is harder than I thought...well, let me start off with "why this happened". I was taken to heaven by an angel of the Lords...this occured after a gigantic battle with my old pastor over the word "GRACE". This man had run his church totally from his own rules, plus the bibles rules. I happened to receive a book about there being in the beginning Two Trees in the Garden of Eden. Well, like anyone searching for His truth, I came to understand, "that I could not work my way to heaven", and my pastor asked me to leave the church, cuz I wouldn't walk in the law any more. Well, Our Awesome Lord saw my pain, and He had me in a "outward vision" lifted into heaven.
It was explained to me that the heavenly realm was the grandest of temples, and that Solomon had been given instructions to build the Temple in accordance to the way that heaven is sort of set up...now remember heaven was so much grander than anything "humans" could build...but at any rate...this is how I saw things...
First, there was Eden, Paradise in all of its glory! The outer court, where there were a number too large to count. Including lots of children of all races, creeds and colors...I asked the angel "why" so many children were here? The reply was...these are those that man cast away(abortioned children), he further explained that "the children were being taught the oracles of God by the angels and the saints that were already there".
Then I glanced and happen to notice that all of the other saints that were there, some were wearing different attire. Again, I asked "why", I was told "some come here in garments of salvation, and some come with robes of righteousness", again, "why" I was told "some accept Jesus as their Messiah but never had a relationship with Him" so they had garments and had to learn in the Garden "what they had missed here". The ones in the robes, as I remember "were those who did have a personal relationship with Jesus, and they were in the throne room, not in the Garden".
Of course "my curiousity was overwhelming, I wanted to know everything" but of course I was not privy to "everything"!! But, I continued to ask questions, like "why the inner court", which I was told was the "showbread room" where only those "who lived by the law, were to come and judge themselves by reflecting on where they forgot Messiah" as they had replaced Messiah with the law. So, in effect they also didn't have "a personal relationship with our Lord". But, as you see "all came" into heaven who believed in Jesus, but there are different places for different people who live in Christ's love.
Now, as far as "how I perceived families and such", to the best of my "own" knowledge by observing, there didn't seem to be "any" differences in how everyone "loved" anyone else. The Love was an overwhelming feeling...one too hard to describe, it was like being LOVE instead of the feeling we humans feel when we think we love. Our love is pitiful compared to that which is in Heaven! AMEN! So, I think "human love" just can't have words to explain "Heavens love", it was almost like night and day.
I pray this day, that anyone that is feeling hurt, sad, lost, alone, or any other sad feeling that Our Wonderful Comforter bring you "His awesome love touch" to anyone in need, amen, in the name of Jesus I pray, YSIC hannah fievel
PS No worries about heaven, everyone is totally fulfilled in His abundant love!
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Okay, this is harder than I thought...well, let me start off with "why this happened". I was taken to heaven by an angel of the Lords...this occured after a gigantic battle with my old pastor over the word "GRACE". This man had run his church totally from his own rules, plus the bibles rules. I happened to receive a book about there being in the beginning Two Trees in the Garden of Eden. Well, like anyone searching for His truth, I came to understand, "that I could not work my way to heaven", and my pastor asked me to leave the church, cuz I wouldn't walk in the law any more. Well, Our Awesome Lord saw my pain, and He had me in a "outward vision" lifted into heaven.
It was explained to me that the heavenly realm was the grandest of temples, and that Solomon had been given instructions to build the Temple in accordance to the way that heaven is sort of set up...now remember heaven was so much grander than anything "humans" could build...but at any rate...this is how I saw things...
First, there was Eden, Paradise in all of its glory! The outer court, where there were a number too large to count. Including lots of children of all races, creeds and colors...I asked the angel "why" so many children were here? The reply was...these are those that man cast away(abortioned children), he further explained that "the children were being taught the oracles of God by the angels and the saints that were already there".
Then I glanced and happen to notice that all of the other saints that were there, some were wearing different attire. Again, I asked "why", I was told "some come here in garments of salvation, and some come with robes of righteousness", again, "why" I was told "some accept Jesus as their Messiah but never had a relationship with Him" so they had garments and had to learn in the Garden "what they had missed here". The ones in the robes, as I remember "were those who did have a personal relationship with Jesus, and they were in the throne room, not in the Garden".
Of course "my curiousity was overwhelming, I wanted to know everything" but of course I was not privy to "everything"!! But, I continued to ask questions, like "why the inner court", which I was told was the "showbread room" where only those "who lived by the law, were to come and judge themselves by reflecting on where they forgot Messiah" as they had replaced Messiah with the law. So, in effect they also didn't have "a personal relationship with our Lord". But, as you see "all came" into heaven who believed in Jesus, but there are different places for different people who live in Christ's love.
Now, as far as "how I perceived families and such", to the best of my "own" knowledge by observing, there didn't seem to be "any" differences in how everyone "loved" anyone else. The Love was an overwhelming feeling...one too hard to describe, it was like being LOVE instead of the feeling we humans feel when we think we love. Our love is pitiful compared to that which is in Heaven! AMEN! So, I think "human love" just can't have words to explain "Heavens love", it was almost like night and day.
I pray this day, that anyone that is feeling hurt, sad, lost, alone, or any other sad feeling that Our Wonderful Comforter bring you "His awesome love touch" to anyone in need, amen, in the name of Jesus I pray, YSIC hannah fievel
PS No worries about heaven, everyone is totally fulfilled in His abundant love!
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I don't know if I had a vision of heaven before, but what you wrote I have felt.
I believe God has given us a special intimacy between husband and wife
here on earth. That is sacred! When we go to be with Him and see Him face
to face that love is all we will need. I hope I am making sense, but I think
we will love everyone in heaven so much that there are no words to describe it.
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I love my husband dearly here, but I think I will have the same love for all
in the kingdom.Hope I am making sense.
I think our earthly marriage & love, that we share here, will be solidified in the body of Bride of Christ; as all of us unify our personalities and our spiritual beings into this form. How much more intimate can we get....The Bride of Christ, married to our Lord and Savior!
My husband and I have discussed this too... and often.
QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ Jan 11 2006, 11:58 AM)
I think our earthly marriage & love, that we share here, will be solidified in the body of Bride of Christ; as all of us unify our personalities and our spiritual beings into this form. How much more intimate can we get....The Bride of Christ, married to our Lord and Savior!
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Thanks, you said what I wanted to say but i got all flustered
Honestly that is what I was trying to say, but you would never know
it with all that does that make sense:lol:
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