Certain people who believe in the theory of evolution and do not believe that the Flood had ever taken place have often regarded the Flood as a mere legend.
However, it is good to ask whether the Flood really did take place. If we were to make practical observations of the ground and the fossils found therein, and traditional folklore, they would refer quite often to the Flood. These indicate that a large mass destruction had taken place in the immediate past. The following passages will examine these different sources of information, which refer to the Flood.

http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/theflood.html

There might be two theories of evolution. One is from creature to creature. The other is just as believable and that is from creature to no creature, which is what we are going thru now. Yall can disagree wholeheartedly until the day you die; and then you prove the theory.

Finding fossils of sea creatures in mountainous areas does not prove the flood happened, only that that area was under water at one time. The axis has shifted as it is doing now with every earthquake and the soil samples of areas say that the axis has reversed once or twice in 50 million years.

The flood of Noah's day did take place. The Bible tells us this and the evidence is in the geology. I would also suggest that an earlier and even more devestating destruction of the earth took place before the creation of humans made in the image of God. Humans have been on the earth for about 6,000 years, but the earth is vastly older by observation. What was the Lord doing before 6,000 years ago and does the Bible give us any clues ?

testing satan?

Signet,

I believe you are correct. This very significant truth answers the question about why there seems to be a contradiction between the Biblical account of the creation of humans about 6,000 years ago and the observation of a much older earth and universe. There is an unknown time lapse between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 that is not recorded in Scripture. Careful reading of Genesis indicates a recent reconditioning of the earth out of desolation. This desolation most likely resulted in the Lord's judgment against Satan and one third of the angelic realm that followed his rebellion. [Isaiah 14:12] [Ezekiel 28:12]

Jack Van Impee teaches the Gap Theory......

It's been around since the 4th Century over 1600 years. Some of the
gretest minds in Christendom have preached the Gap Theory.
Dr. C. Solfield, Dr. Clarence Larkin and his dipensational charts.
Dr. Merl Unger and one of the princes of prophecy for the 20th entury Dr. John
Walford and Dr. W.S. Hoddle.

There could be millions of years in between Genesis 1 vs.1 and vs.2
which would account for the different layers and stratives in the earth, dinosaurs and cavemen.

Because Genesis1 vs. 1 says in the begining God created heaven and the earth.

vs.2 tells us the earth was without form a void and darkness was upon the face of the earth and the spirit of God moves upon the waters.

Isaiah 45:18 God did not create the earth without form and void.

In Hebrew the words are a little different.... in Hebrew it would read...

Genesis 1 vs. 1 In the begining God barah heaven and earth.

Barah means new and perfect without void.

Genesis 2 vs. 2 The earth hatah - became not
Written in hebre. It says and the earth became without form. Hetah (Hebrew)

It appears God created a perfect world and then it wasn't.

What caused this? The time when Satan was cast out of Heaven and he became the God of this world. ...IICorinthians 4:4.
Because he was not only in control of the Heavens 1 and 2, but the earth as well.

Was there another generation?
Was there prehistoric man?

Isaiah 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from Heaven oh Lucifer... Oh sun of the morning?
How art thou cut down to the ground?
Which did weaken the nations. Nations were here. That is not after Adam & Eve.
Thats before Adam & Eve.

Ezekial 28:17 He is cast to the ground that the kings of the earth might behold him.
THERE WERE KINGS OVER NATIONS.

This is the Gap Theory .... God created the perfect earth Barah ...but it became without form and void Hetah.. becaue of Satans fall.

The kings of the Nations obeyed him IICorinthians 4:4.

We know now... If we go down to the depths of the ocean. You can find tremendous mountains and valleys .. undoultably that prehistoric race is burried down there with the land shifting ... That which was land became water and water became land.
Some of this is buried 7 miles down where no human can research due to pressure.
Some of the greatest people who study archeology .. Dr. Clarence Larking ;
death and hates delivered up the dead which were in them and were judged. .. and then the Sea gave up the dead.. Why? Why did He mention the Sea?
Because a few dead sailors were in there? No.. because a prehistoric race is buried in the depths of ocean and they all come out from that generation and the generation from Adam ... the last 6000 years for judgement.

Sorry but there is no mention of "prehistoric man" before Adam... Prehistoric man is just a neanderthal evolutionary myth to support the false ideology that we are from chimps.

The flood happened if there are any peolple in the sea that are dead- that is because they were drowned in the flood. Ohh by the way science is wrong too about Pangea- people inhabited the earth before the continents split apart. Please read Genesis again, and Chronicles and read about Peleg.
That would explain why the flood covered all the earth and every mountain top. It also explains that interesting mid-atlantic ridge that goes around the world like I huge seam....

Correct,

No mention of humans like us before Adam and Eve in Scripture. We are a first .... created in the image of God about 6,000 years ago.

Satan and the fallen angelics have been around since the very beginning of creation .... who knows how long ? There was more than likely similar plant an animal life on the earth before 6,000 years ago .... but not humans like us. For example the dinosaurs were here (most likely Satan's toys), but Adam did not have one for a pet. Can you imagine living on the same planet with such creatures.

When the Lord reconditioned the earth for humans like us He did not replace the dinosaurs. It is a good thing. It is also interesting to note that the earth is the only planet with a "make-over" in our solar system. Take a look at the others and one can see the devastation .... the Lord didn't make them like that to start with.

Testing satan for 6000 years?. . Only God can say what happened for many years. Scientist and other so called knowledge people confused every layman.

WK,

I would say "antagonizing" Satan since the day of his rebellion. His test was over when the Lord found iniquity in his ambitions.

[quote=1LikeDeborah,Jun 17 2006, 01:21 AM]
[quote=Love123,Jun 16 2006, 10:28 PM]Jack Van Impee teaches the Gap Theory......

It's been around since the 4th Century over 1600 years. Some of the
gretest minds in Christendom have preached the Gap Theory.
Dr. C. Solfield, Dr. Clarence Larkin and his dipensational charts.
Dr. Merl Unger  and one of the princes of prophecy for the 20th entury Dr. John
Walford and Dr. W.S. Hoddle.

There could be millions of years in between Genesis 1 vs.1 and vs.2
which would account for the different layers and stratives in the earth, dinosaurs and cavemen.

Because Genesis1 vs. 1 says in the begining God created heaven and the earth.

vs.2 tells us the earth was without form a void and darkness was upon the face of the earth and the spirit of God moves upon the waters.

Isaiah 45:18 God did not create the earth without form and void.

In Hebrew the words are a little different.... in Hebrew it would read...

Genesis 1 vs. 1 In the begining God barah heaven and earth. 

Barah means  new and perfect without void.

Genesis 2 vs. 2 The earth hatah - became not
Written in hebre. It says and the earth became without form. Hetah (Hebrew)

It appears God created a perfect world  and then it wasn't.

What caused this? The time when Satan was cast out of Heaven and he became the God of this world. ...IICorinthians 4:4.
Because he was not only in control of the Heavens 1 and 2, but the earth as well.

Was there another generation?
Was there prehistoric man?

Isaiah 14:12-14  How art thou fallen from Heaven oh Lucifer... Oh sun of the morning?
How art thou cut down to the ground?
Which did weaken the nations.  Nations were here. That is not after Adam & Eve.
Thats before Adam & Eve.

Ezekial 28:17 He is cast to the ground that the kings of the earth might behold him.
THERE WERE KINGS OVER NATIONS.

This is the Gap Theory .... God created the perfect earth Barah ...but it became without form and void Hetah.. becaue of Satans fall.

The kings of the Nations obeyed him IICorinthians 4:4.

We know now... If we go down to the depths of the ocean. You can find tremendous mountains and valleys .. undoultably that prehistoric race is burried down there with the land shifting ... That which was land became water and water became land.
Some of this is buried 7 miles down where no human can research due to pressure.
Some of the greatest people who study archeology .. Dr. Clarence Larking ;
death and hates delivered up the dead which were in them and were judged. .. and then the Sea gave up the dead.. Why?  Why did He mention the Sea?
Because a few dead sailors were in there? No.. because a prehistoric race is buried in the depths of ocean and they all come out from that generation and the generation from Adam ... the last 6000 years for judgement.
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Sorry but there is no mention of "prehistoric man" before Adam... Prehistoric man is just a neanderthal evolutionary myth to support the false ideology that we are from chimps.

The flood happened if there are any peolple in the sea that are dead- that is because they were drowned in the flood. Ohh by the way science is wrong too about Pangea- people inhabited the earth before the continents split apart. Please read Genesis again, and Chronicles and read about Peleg.
That would explain why the flood covered all the earth and every mountain top. It also explains that interesting mid-atlantic ridge that goes around the world like I huge seam....
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God created man in his image............... Prehistoric man... does not mean a man came from a chimp..... It means very old man.....

So now that we have cleared that up. I refuse to ignore the scriptures that state Satan was cast out of Heaven to earth and that Kings of Nations on earth beheld him................

Also I do not believe God put Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden with tyrannosaurs Rex .... It would not be a garden of any sort.

The earth was flooded twice................... once between Genesis vs 1& 2.
Then in Noahs Day.... God gave a rainbow as promise to never flood the earth again.


For myself and others that believe the earth is older and like the solidity of scripture to help understand..................... where Satans fall and Kings of Nations beheld him fits in...................... this does indeed make sense to us and helps feel in the gaps...........

You can over look scripture and refer to you science book.
Chimps and yes" if there are any people dead in the sea is because they drowned in the flood." < -your statement>.... Yes it is obvious there was no coastgaurd.

Bottom line.............. you ask me to reread Genesis.........
While you overlook the scripture I have provided above and ignore it.

Lets agree to disagree................

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The Gap theory was invented to try and harmonize the new theory of evolution at the time with the six-day creation given in the Scriptures. It cannot be done. If you believe that there was a long period of death, suffering, disease, violence, etc. between verse 1 and 2, then all these things happened before Adam was created. According to Romams 5:12, sin and death and suffering, etc entered the world through the one man Adam. This, then had to take place only after Adam sinned, not before he was created on Day Six.

Amen, we have to believe the Word and not try and make it fit in with science...science will fit in with the Word if people will open their eyes.
God created a fully grown man Adam, fully "grown"planets, suns, moons etc.Adam had no childhood , neither did the rest of creation. That is why its called "creation" , its was created by God. Otherwise God would have called it "evolutioned". But He did not, so there is even no such word in the English language

The truth is the Flood didn't occur 4000 years ago. We have scientists called geologists who know astromically more about this subject than you or I, and they have absolutely no agenda other than learning the truth about our world. They study their field for a lifetime and bring all sorts of new discoveries to mankind. They have proven beyond any doubt many incredible things about our planets past, such as an age when the entire face of the planet was covered in ice! But none of them, NOT ONE, has found any evidence for a recent worldwide flood! Such a dramatic thing would be written on the face of our planet and plainly obvious to any scientist who would oobserve the evidence, but it's not there.

The only people who believe that a worldwide flood took place 4000 years ago are Christians. It didn't happen. It's a story. That is all.


If man was created in his adulthood 6000 years ago then why are we uncovering clearly human burial sites that are 25000 + years old? One person in this thread even claimed neanderthals don't exist! We have their bones! We have their burial sites! Their tools, their artwork! They existed, and lived alongside mankind! These are things we know to be true because we have observed them. Why do you deny it?

Science is only really good guesses....What I find entertaining is that some man/woman who studied science can come along and tell me what a T-Rex ate 60 million years ago....

Consider that over the past 2 thousand years ordinary people including archeologist have uncovered proof the biblical writings and the things where in are truth....All you all to do is look around you today to see it's prophecies coming to pass....But you being not a believer won't understand those things....

I am not debating you because you and I differ on our beliefs...There is no point in debate in my book anyway....For you to say that the flood did not occur just lines up with your non-belief and nothing anyone can say can change that....

I would say if your just looking to pick a fight with those of us who love the Lord with all of our hearts, I would hope that no one will take the bait that has been laid here....Go with peace and love in your heart and begin to seek the Lord, and HE will show you these things that are truth this way your foundation is sure...

I have no problem with religion or religious people. I myself believe in God, and the last thing I want to do is pick a fight. Let me share some words from a famous Christian, a Saint even! Please consider these:





That comes from St. Agustine. Now, maybe you understand where I'm coming from, and we can get back to the subject.



Science is not good guesses, it's the forming of hypothoses and weighing it against evidences and observations. We know what the T-Rex ate because we know what kind of animal it was, what kind of food it needed, and what was around for it to eat at the time. You can learn alot about the past by observing it's footprints. We can observe the effects of ice ages, even a worldwide ice age a couple billion years ago. We can observe the effects of gradual temperature rises over the course of millions of years, we can observe the effects of a meteor impact that occured on the opposite side of the planet millions of years ago! If the flood happened, we would be able to see it. A world-wide deluge 4000 years ago, for example, would be painfully obvious in the geological record. But no evidence for it is there, it could not have happened.



We have found evidence that some of the places and people mentioned were actual places and actual people, thats about it. And really, it's not unexpected, and doesn't prove anything about the bible except that the authors didn't invent some of the characters and settings. For example, does the discovery of the city of Troy prove that Atlantis existed? Why not, their legends are written about in the same works by the same author! One thing cannot prove the validity of another, unrelated thing. This defys the basic nature of the concept of proof.



The bottom line is that IF the flood occured 4000 years ago, it would be a very easy thing to prove. And yet, there is no evidence for it and no geologist believes it happened. Only Christians believe it, and not because they have done any science of their own. They only believe it happened because they believe their scripture tells them it did.

Hidden Face of God:
Genesis One A physicist looks at Creation

Other link about Gerald Schroeder
Physicist Gerald Schroeder looks at Creation

I don't have ram player, and I'm not going to install it. I'm sure I've heard it before though, and will only say that science is a process, and not any one persons beliefs. If one scientist believe a certain thing, this doesn't in any way assert that science agrees with him. And if that person is saying anything like a worldwide deluge took place 4000 years ago, then it is surely true that he is flying in the face of all geological science to date.

Is the person Christian? That should be the first question you ask. You see, science is unbiased, but people are not.

The real flood has yet to come....As in the first flood all were lost, (except for eight souls) in this one many will be saved...


Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

'Science' is anything BUT unbiased. Anytime someone mentions the word 'God' whatever is being discussed is arbitrarily ruled out, therefore making it psuedo-science. Real science allows for ALL possibilities, unlike the science which is pervading today's schools and universities. Carbon-14 dating? Least accurate form of dating, period. Shells of living clams known to be 2-3 years old test at 27,000 years of age. Dinosaurs dying out 65 million years ago? That's why 'scientists' are trying to clone them, finding SOFT tissue and red blood cells in not one, but several T-Rex hipbones. Iron bowl that was found incased in coal in a coal vein in Oklahoma, the vein was 'dated' as being 295 million years of age. Human footprints and dinosaur prints in the same rock- it's there. How long does it take to make coal? TWO hours, under the right conditions. To make oil? Eight hours. The factor here is the conditions which made coal and oil, not time, like so many of these foolish 'naturalists' like to believe.

Here's a question which I dare ANY evolutionist to answer. To make a protein, the amino-acids which bind that particular protein into a useful shape and purpose must be laid out in the correct sequence. Without this sequence the protein would be useless. This is done through the instructions of DNA. Yet DNA is only found in biological sources. So what came first, the protein, or the DNA? Claiming that the amino-acids could have happened upon the sequence necessary to build proteins by chance has already been proven to be mathmatically impossible, yet to believe in evolution one must believe that enough of these amino-acids just happened to fit themselves into the incredibly complex shape of not just one protein, but the hundreds required to make ONE cell, which must also contains DNA, or else it cannot replicate.

The real science is being repressed and condemned by the acadamia our our institutions. They are pursuing a doctrine of trying to prove that God does not exist, and get quite nasty to those that know better.

Your sister in Christ, Angela

Well said Angela.

The proof of this is that science no longer publishes the errata, that is, the things that go against the theory being tested.

I have a picture here somewhere of a petrified tree trunk embedded vertically in a rock wall. It is about 20-30 ft long, about 2 ft in diameter, and spans many strata, perhaps even "millions" of years.

I have another, this one of a fish fossil, head down, and in-situ. This fish spans two strata fields which, as I recall add up to some 15,000 years.

While these are digital images, I did give them close scrutiny in a photo editor (the GIMP). If they are faked, they are masterful forgeries.

I am not so bold as to say they disprove the geological column, but they certainly stand against it (rather firmly against it, I might add). Errata such as these may well be anomalous, If so, then explain them. To ignore them or worse yet, impugn them is dishonest and completely unscientific.

True science is a reliable witness. I would not, however, call today's science "true" at all.

-Bruce

Scientists believe that roughly 700 million years ago the Earth’s continents were joined together in a type of super continent known as Pangaea. There have been many theories as to exactly when and how the continents divided, but the most recent theory known as plate tectonics suggests that the outer layer of the earth called the lithosphere, consists of at least six or more major plates for which the earth sits on. These plates ride on a molten liquid called asthenosphere, Scientists believe, that a series of earthquakes broke up the Pangaea resulting over time in the seven major continents of today.

This theory is totally consistent with how the Bible says it happened. The bible claims this event took place during the time of Peleg (Genesis 10:25}, because in his time “the earth was divided,” but was it actually an earthquake that caused it? The answer can be found in the Hebrew language of his name pronounced Pek-leg, it means to split, by an earthquake. Now the Hebrew word for earth is “eres,” it means ground or soil, and of course the verb “was” can be translated as became. So by interpretation the phrase would read: during the time of Peleg, the earth became, divided by an earthquake. You can find this and more at http://www.prophecycodebook.com

@Angela: "The real science is being repressed and condemned by the acadamia our our institutions."

I wouldn't put it that generalizing, if only because those institutions also let people study theology, but pretty sure that it is the attitude that's the most occurring one, the more exact a science is. The fact that studies like theology still exist, is that this is based on one of the 2 scientific-philosophical ways of approach: induction and deduction. It's either applying a formula to the outside world facts, or using the facts to derive one from. Both take the trouble of researching things in their own manner. The main trouble comes when one is interfering in another, where the approach of one is not the one accepted by another science. A major example of this is the evolution debate. Religion and physical science.

Theology tries to understand the ways of God or the interaction between god and man, but there is one component which is a bit loose from deduction or induction, and these are the uncontrolled circumstances of miracles. Trying to explain miracles. In theology it can happen that there are people who try to explain miracles in an earthly manner (physical thinking in cause and effect) while there may be an unearthly reality alongside ours, which is in communication. If something of an interaction happens, the cause of phenomena comes from a direction which scepticals don't expect, even though they may be really honest in looking the direction they are used to.

Greets, Divinespark.

i love the flood story, don't know why.

Greetings all.

I believe the earth was literally created in six days, and that there was a flood about 6000 years ago, I reject the gap theory and the christian evolution theory. There are numberous reasons why.

To begin with mankind and dinosaurs were contemporary. There are numerous dragon stories around the world, even Loc nessie. There are numerous cave paintings and paintings on pottery depicting 'dragons'. And the "non-appearance" of them now is essentially like the appearance of lions and other creatures missing in the middle east. Such enormous creatures needed alot of food. And were probably easy prey to early man. What about the "dodo" bird... didn't exist in man's timeline? Of course it did.

As for the flood all you have to do is take one trans continental flight at 30,000 feet to see the evidence of "washed" mountains and land. Clearly evidence of a deluge. Of course I like some of Ken Ham's evidence and Kent Hovind's lectures... I'll refer you to them at this point.

So God breathed the heavens and the earth and the earth was without form and void. Well we are getting into the hebrew translation and the misinterpretation of it to suggest a "gap" theory. I say if the earth was "void" then everything would have ceased to exist. What is void? Nothing. So either God breathed the heaven and earth and created the void, which is entirely possible. Or God breathed into a void.

If God breathed the creation of the void what would that be like? A whirlpool! He could breath in such a manner that his breath would create a void in the middle of His breath. You do it every time you cup your hand to your face to smell if you have bad breath. There is a "void" of low pressure right on the edge of your upper lip.

Now if God breathed into "a void" then it would be like a drop of food coloring in a glass of water. Sort of but more forceful.

Finally the appearance of age does not equal age. What physicists and geologists do not understand that Time itself is a form of energy. It has a localized injection point into this creation (even with the big bang period). This means time is more "concentrated" at the injection point and becomes diluted as it expands throughout creation. Again like the food coloring in the glass of water. The scientists are studying time on a linear ruler when in reality the ruler should be curved.

And when it comes to temporal mechanics, we cannot even say that Lucifer has fallen yet! "Oh you lost us there Itchy, bring in the wacko patrol!!!" I'm just saying that with God there is a possibility that Lucifer hasn't even been created yet and came to the tree of knowledge to tempt Eve. Highly unlikely, but possible. Mankind is too stuck on his linear understanding to be able to grasp certain events and evidences. And mankind will only assure God Himself that the world is indeed flat!

The word of God states "lean not unto your own understanding>" Trust God.

Personally I believe that to state the earth was created in more than six days is to detract from the Glory of God.


YBIC

I'm very familiar with these theories of Pangaea, Panthelassa, Gondwana, Plate Tectonics and Continental Drift, but after careful analysis, I am not a proponent of them; they are severe misinterpretation of the data.

In reality, planets form in the protracted ejecta tail of the jettisoned proto star, and thus a planet is initially a "plasmosphere" that coalesces into a planet through condensation. The current Protoplanet Hypothesis is erroneous, and planets to not form from the aggregation of debris and planetesimals fusion. When the Earth was a molten plasmosphere its surface subdivided into positively charged and negatively charged magnetic convection zones. The plasmatic material in the positive zones ascended up to the surface of the plasmosphere, while the material in the negative zones descended back into the core of the plasmosphere. Wherever a positive zone formed on the sphere in the diametric antipodal region (on the opposite side) a negative reverse zone formed as a counter-zone, and vises a versa.

In the positive convection zone material cooling and thickening occurred, which eventually created “highlands”. In the antipodal negative convection zones cooling occurred last and thus the material of the crust is thin and recessed into “lowlands”. It is in the lowland regions that water eventually condensed and filled up to form oceans, thus the lowlands are the oceanic basins, having a thinner crust, while the thicker highlands are what we call “continents”.

Now, if you take a clear globe of the Earth and see through the oceanic regions to the opposite side of the Earth you will observe that directly opposite each oceanic basin (lowland) is a continental mass (highland), which is a reverse inverted image or shape to its counter-zone. Hence, Africa-Europe-Asia are antipodal to the Pacific Oceanic Basin; Antarctica is antipodal to the Arctic Oceanic Basin; North and Central America are antipodal to the Indian Oceanic Basin; Australia is antipodal to the North Atlantic Oceanic Basin; and South America is antipodal to the China Sea/East Pacific Oceanic Basins.

This means the “continents” have not moved anywhere relative to each other. It means that Continental Drift never happened, and that there was never this fantasy called Pangaea. Geology and Science have severely misinterpreted the data.

Now, sea floor spreading, the oceanic rift faults, fracture zones, volcanism, volcanic islands, high precipice mountains, the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, the Himalayan-Tibetan Plateau, the Andes, Alps, Rockies, and so on… are all RECENT phenomenon, which are “post-percussion features”, being the direct result of “mass celestial bombardment”. Most of these features were created by the event that precipitated the Great Flood of Noah when the Earth was bombarded by the ejection of stellar debris from our original paternal star, Sirius B, which received a cometary impact, Comet Metis (“Prudence” or “Knowledge”). This cosmocataclysmic bombardment of stellar debris fractured the once seamless “perilithosphere” for the very first time and collapse the original upper hydrospheric shield, the “Prima Altohydrosphere”, composed of frozen carbon, hydrogen, water and other elements, adding to the calamity of the Flood. This was a one mile thick cryospheric structure suspended 10 miles above the surface of the Earth that formed through the coalescing of the original plasmosphere. It created the conditions for the inception of Life, like a “Geocrucible”, or a “Womb of Life”, and maintained a 30% greater oxygen concentrate and a highly amplified electromagnetic amplitude that consequently generated the attributes of “Gigantism” and expanded longevity of Life.

Hummm...Interesting Seven...Have you got an image of the globe for us?

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There you go again Seven...

The theory is interesting but how do you know for sure it was from this body?

Thanks for asking… If I seem lacking in the elaboration of data, it’s not because I lack the data, it’s just such a Herculean task to abstract it into a short and concise format, since it is the result of 15 years of research. So your questions help to pinpoint areas that need elaboration.

I have research graphics that I have developed, but I haven’t been able to figure out how to reformat them into jpgs. to post on the site. I don’t have an image of the clear globe, only physical, dimensional globes. They sell beach balls that are clear globes of the earth at the Discovery Store if you are interested in demonstrating this phenomenon for yourself. I got the idea one night while watching the ABC Nightly News with Peter Jennings. In their computer graphics behind the anchor (in those days) they projected a clear globe of the earth revolving. As I saw the region of the Pacific Ocean revolve to the viewer’s side of the globe, through it I saw that the entire Africa-Europe-Asian mass in am inverted negative shape filled in the negative space of the Pacific Ocean. I then investigated further with tracings and overlays graphics and discovered that this was true for all continental land masses and their antipodal oceanic basins.

Metis was the first “wife” of the stellar deity Cronos/Zeus, Sirius B, being a comet, hence the name “Comet Metis”; “Metis” means “prudence” or “knowledge”. According to the Greek myth, Cronos/Zeus swallowed his first wife, Metis, and subsequently received an excruciating “headache” and asked Hephaestus (Vulcan) to split open his head with an axe. The myth relays that when Hephaestus obliged, afterwards Cronos/Zeus’s daughter, Athena (Minerva) emerged fully formed and ready for battle and that her appearance actually “rivaled” that of her father.

This is also recorded in the Norse myth of the beautiful great god Balder who was struck in a game by the harmless sprig of mistletoe (the comet) and died; and all of the creation lamented his death producing the Great Thaw, that caused a Great Deluge upon the Earth. This lamentation is one in the same with the Hebrew account of the lamentations to the pagan god, Tammuz, also a personification of Sirius B. Hence, the mistletoe, the Yule log (the dead “tree of life” being the demise of our first Solar System), Christmas tree and wreath that survive to this day in the current Christmas traditions, which was formerly from the Festival of Saturnalia, originated from the death of Sirius B, the end of its Blue Supergiant phase, perceived as the great tree that fell.

Of course, mythology with its deities is merely the “personification” of celestial objects and stellar phenomenon, and the great “exploits” of the gods is merely the “interaction” between these sidereal elements. It turns out that mythology is a symbolic language encoded with a collection of data recorded by “post-catastrophic survivors” who were people living in a former global technoculture of advance technological achievements similar to our own, and the myths are to be deciphered by a future posterity in the next global technoculture, for the primitive “Neobarbaric” people that always reemerge in post-catastrophic periods for many, many generations will not understand the data. Hence, mythology is what I call “cosmocryptography”, documenting these periodic cosmocataclysms that followed the initial Deluge Event. Furthermore, the times of Noah were not “primitive”; he lived during the zenith of the Earth’s first global technoculture. This notion that portrays him in goat hide and his culture as a nomadic-barbaric people IS a myth. The Torah relays that the Ark was “powered” by some form of technology called the “tsoar crystal” that lit up the entire internal cavity of the Ark.

In our first two Solar Epochs, there were only 2 celestial members to our Solar System, being the Earth and our original paternal star Sirius B, originally a Blue Supergiant that was about 5 times the mass of our current Sun. At that time our current Sun, Sirius B’s current companion star today, Sirius A, and 10 other planets did not exist. These celestial objects were still yet residing in the “belly” of the star Sirius B. The First Solar Epoch (1st day [epoch] of creation)is what is referred to in Genesis 1:3 as the creation of Sirius B: “Let there be light.” Here the Hebrew word for “light” is “or”. Sirius B was personified into the pagan deities, O’siris, Or’ion, Our’anos, Or’cus, Or’pheus, and so on, being the “Great Begetter Father God” (not to be confused with the Real Father God).

In the Second Solar Epoch (2nd day [epoch] of creation) was the establishment of the consort to Ouronos (Uranus), Sirius B, being Gaia, the Earth, technically understood as his second wife in relation to Comet Metis, his first wife. Hence, this was our original Solar System, Sirius B, Earth and the obscure Comet Metis. It would not be until the conclusion of the Fourth Solar Epoch (4th day [epoch] of creation) that Sirius A, the goddess star (the Great Mother Goddess of the Gods [10 new planets and the Sun]), Sirius C (the Sun), and 10 new planets would be “expelled” from Sirius B’s “body” to form our former “Osirian Trinary Stellar System”, called the “Tree of Forbidden Knowledge” produced as a result from Ouronos/Cronos/Zeus, Sirius B, having eaten the “forbidden fruit of knowledge” (Comet Metis: Prudence or Knowledge).

When Comet Metis impacted into Sirius B, earthbound observers saw that this occurred in the equatorial region of the star. Because a magmatic star is “pliable” the impact, having caused an elemental nuclear discharge the size of our current Sun, caused a massive concavity depression into the side of the star and its internal mass displaced and compressed towards the opposite side of the impact. The elemental discharge blasted stellar material outwardly in a conic formation along the ecliptic (equator) of the stellar system. The Earth was in the wrong place at the wrong time and received mass celestial bombardment from the ejected material. The material initially punctured and penetrated the upper hydrospheric shield (the Prima Altohydrosphere) collapsing it in a great cataclysmic downpour. Following, the celestial material pulverized the surface of the Earth with transterrestrial bombardment that fried and burnt major section of the Earth. It also split the world asunder and fractured its former perfect “paralithosphere” for the very first time. In the thinner areas of the crust, mainly the oceanic floors, fracturization occurred, including the sudden creation of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, the African Great Rift Fault, and all the oceanic rift faults and fracture zones. This fracturization abruptly released the internal pressurized waters formerly held within the subterranean seas sandwiched between the lithosphere and the asthenosphere, and subsequently in combination with the melted downpour from the collapsed upper hydrospheric shield, the sea level swiftly rose about 6,000 feet from its original level, which was 2,800 to 3,000 feet below the current level.

Noah, who lived on the continent of Edhena (Antarctica, today), which was originally located slightly above the equator, for the original North Pole was the Brazilian Highlands, and the original South Pole was the Philippines. This land mass was known to the ancient Greeks as Atlantis, and was known to the ancient Chinese as Hosang, “Land of Witches”, clearly indicating the civilization corruption and manifest evil which the Lord despised. Noah’s Ark was made from “gopher’s wood”, which is a processed wood treated with impregnated resin. In the 1960’s the Soviets had experimented with this process to build armored tanks, and discovered that resin impregnated wood is stronger than tempered steel; it is not just water-proof, but it is also “fire-proof”. Hence, Noah’s Ark was not merely water-proof, but fire-proof for the purpose of the incinerating celestial onslaught, preceding the Flood, from the stellar debris.

There is a Greek myth from Phrygia (Turkey) that relays the account of one massive chunk from the onslaught, mythologized as the fire-vomiting monster “Aegides” (“goat monster”: Sirius b is the “Goat Star” personified as “Pan”, “Pluto”, “Hades”, the ‘god of the Underworld or Netherworld)… Diodorus Siculus tells how “the monster appeared over Phrygia and spread fire over the Taurus Mountains, the great conflagration burnt down all the forests (spontaneous combustion) as far as India; then with a retrograde course (turned around), swept the forests of Lebanon, and extended as far as Egypt and into Africa; at last a stop was put to it by the new goddess, Athena (Minerva). The Phrygians remembered well this conflagration and the FLOOD which FOLLOWED IT,” according to Siculus.

The monster Aegides was none other than a massive piece of ejecta stellar debris from Sirius B, ejected from the impact of Comet Metis. This projectile “appeared to “turn around” (retrograde) over India, but what actually occurred at this point in time is that a more massive chunk impacted into the southeastern Pacific Ocean, and its titanic antipodal force shot straight through the Earth causing the instantaneous uplift of the entire Himalayan-Tibetan Plateau in a matter of minutes, while simultaneously dislodging the Earth off its axial of rotation and caused the Earth to turn upside down to it current polar axis. Following, Aegides impacted into a former Central African Plateau, carving out a massive crater depression, which I have identified as the “Congo Gigacrater”, our Solar System’s largest visible impact crater (not the Helles Crater on Mars as planetologists and astronomers currently assume). Hence, the immense impact pressure generated from the Aegides Impact created the rich rare elements and metals of Africa, including the liberal diamond mines and fields and cobalt. Additionally, the Congo River Basin is the curvilinear structure to the ovoid crater floor, explaining why the Congo River is a perfect arc. This would also explain why the Blacks of Africa do not have a “Flood Myth” like all other worldwide cultures, because their continent, Africa was “ground zero” for one of the major impacts that precipitated the Flood.

It was the Aegides Impact, a projectile equal to the mass of 1,090 Mt. Everests, or about the size of Nova Scotia, that also cracked the Earth with the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and the African Great Rift Fault. This is a process involving compound-curvature fracturization, where the impact site is relatively free of fracturization but the concentric energy ruptures the surface of the Earth at an outer curvature periphery about 3,000 miles from the epicenter; impact experiments with soft-to-hard boil eggs confirms this phenomenon, which also reveals that minor fracture zones are simultaneously produced adjacent to the major rift faults. The antipodal force from its impact also shot straight through the Earth and created the Fiji-Solomon-New Zealand Islands uplift, which is described in the region’s ancient myths of how the gods raised the islands from the ocean floor.

Meanwhile, back on Edhena (Atlantis/Antarctica) the Ark of Noah became waterborne and the flood was in full progress; the Earth had shifted off its original axis with a 6,000 mile displacement due to the gargantuan stellar debris impact in the southeast Pacific that ruptured the Earth with major rift faults and adjacent fracture zones that cracked the current southern hemisphere of the Earth and the east Pacific. Simultaneously, due to “inertia” as the Ark was waterborne the physical Earth below the Ark displaced (moved) during the pole shift, so the continent of Edhena (Atlantis/Antarctica) was swept away. Inertia can be best understood by placing a bowl of water perfectly still on a tabletop, and then suddenly and abruptly shoving the bowl forward; the result is that the water will remain behind as the physical bowl moves forward, and the water will spill backwards out of the bowl. Hence, when the new axis stabilized the Ark became located over the region of Turkey due to this inertial process, while Edhena (Atlantis/Antarctica) became “flash-frozen” at the new bottom of the Earth, the South Pole, and the former global technoculture was completely erased.

While this cataclysm was ravaging the Edhenic Earth, back at our paternal star, Sirius B, something else was brewing. At the equatorial impact site of Comet Metis along the pliable rim of the concavity depression this bulging rim exceeded its maximum retention tolerance and ruptured the “photosphere” of the Blue Supergiant Star, a B-1 class star. Hence, this translated into the myth of Ouranos/Cronos/Zeus whose head was split open by the axe of Hephaestus. This rupture tore along the equator for 180º around half the star, and when the rupture reached the vicinity where the internal mass had displaced and pressurized from the cometary impact, a great celestial discharged jettisoned from out of the equatorial side of the star, a mass stellar ejection episode. Sirius B lost 70% of its stellar mass and shrunk to an F-1 class star that was approximately 1.49 times the mass of our current Sun, thus it was about 1 and a ½ the size of our Sun. The bulk of the ejection passed the Earth’s orbit (originally near 4.9 billion miles from the stellar center, which is about the maximum orbit of Pluto, today) and beyond , and the material coalesced into the star Sirius A, the goddess star, setting up an orbit at the outer periphery of the system, thus encompassing the whole body of the system. In “her” protracted ejecta-tail formed 10 new planets, and the last material to eject, but did not have enough velocity to escape the source of its ejection was a tertiary mass of stellar material that coalesced into our Sun, technically Sirius C, which set up a binary relationship with the newly diminished star Sirius B. Together they were mythologized as the “Twins”, Gemini, Castor and Pollux, Apollo and Hercules, Seth and Osiris, and yes, Cain and Abel, for Sirius B was mythologized in Hebrew mythology as “the man that fell”, and Sirius A, whose Egyptian name is Isis, Es’iah, “the woman” (Eve: “the woman”) was “born” out of the “side of the man”, Sirius B, and Sirius A was considered the “wife” (rib) of the man that fell, and that “rib” was the protracted ejecta-tail seen in the sky out of which formed “the woman”; and it was also mythologized as the “Club of Janus” and the “Club of Hercules”. Additionally, Rhea (Rhea/Hera/Isis: Sirius A) literally means “discharge”, for Sirius A “discharged” out of Sirius B.

On this season of "Easter"... the origin of the Easter Egg is entirely due to the birth of the goddess (star) "Astarte", meaning "star". Hyginus, the Egyptian, the learned keeper of the Palatine library of Rome, in the time of Augustus, who was skilled in all the wisdom of his native country, said, "An egg of wondrous size," Sirius B, "is said to have 'fallen' from heaven into the River Euphrates. The fishes rolled it to the bank, where the doves having settled upon it, and hatched it, out came Venus, who afterwards was called the Syrian Goddess"--- that is, Astrate (star) born out of the egg, Sirius B, which is also mythologized as the "Cosmic Egg" that cracked open spilling out all of life.

Back on Earth at the conclusion of the Great Deluge, as Noah executed his sacrifice unto the Lord, a “bow” was placed in the sky by God as a “covenant” that He will not ever destroy the Earth again by another flood, which of course cannot happen on such an immense magnitude as the initial Flood, for the Prima Altohydrosphere no longer exists and the majority of the subterranean seas have been depressurized and the current sea level has settled to about 3,000 feet above its original level. However, the earth can still be subject to oceanic inertia from a radical axial displacement (pole shift) causing the seas to overrun the continent, and mass celestial bombardment is also still a possibility. The “bow” that Noah saw was NOT a “rainbow” as theologians have misinterpreted. Instead, it was the protracted eject-tail of the mass stellar ejection out of Sirius B. An earthbound observer standing in the location of the 35º north latitude, as Noah did, would see a massive bow-like white streak across the entire canopy of the Earth as the ejection passed the Earth to the outer extremity of the system. The ancient Chinese and the ancient Babylonians called Sirius A the “Bow Star”. Thus, the “bow” that Noah saw was the ejecta formation that formed Sirius A and the other new deities of the pagan pantheon of gods, being the Sun and 10 new planets.

Consequently, our former trinary stellar system had formed, having 3 stars and 11 planets. The Earth was located between Jupiter and Kingu, the largest planet in the system that dwarfed all the other stars, including Jupiter. Kingu possessed a figure-8 orbit in which it orbited the “body” of the system and also orbited the outer star, Sirius A. Hence, Sirius A became known as the “head” of the system, and the pagans during Jeremiah’s time worshipped “her” as the “Queen of Heaven”, for she appeared in the night sky as bright as our full Moon. Our Moon did not exist at this time, for it was originally the iron and silica core still in the heart of the giant gaseous planet Kingu. Our Moon would not emerge until the end of the cosmocataclysmic Nebula Discontinuity Event of Sirius B at the end of its Red Giant Phase when it would explode its outer shell (the flayed god of Meso-American myth) and compress into a White Dwarf star creating the celestial dynamics that split our “Osirian Trinary Stellar System” in half, forming the two systems that we currently know today. This event is when the “fratricide” between the “Twins”, Sirius B and Sirius C, our Sun, would occur, forming the foundation of the fratricide myths, the Egyptian Seth killing his brother Osiris, Cain killing Abel, etc.; and the formation of the myth of the dismemberment of the “body” of Osiris/Nimrod, Sirius B, into 14 pieces that were scattered, of course, actually being the dismemberment of the 14 celestial members (3 stars + 11 planets = 14 celestial members) of the former trinary system that were subsequently scattered.

Consequently, the massive trinary system was known as the “Tree of Forbidden Knowledge”, for it was formed when the forbidden fruit (Metis: Prudence or Knowledge) was eaten by the “man that fell”, Sirius B. How is a solar system like a tree? The central star rotates on its side moving forward (towards its polar north) around the galactic center, creating in its wake a spiraling column formation (the tree trunk), while its “tree canopy” are the planets that revolve around the central trunk of the tree. The spiraling formation was also mythologized as the coiling “serpent” ascending the tree trunk. Hence, the “Tree of Life” in the midst of the garden was our original two-member stellar system, Sirius B, the Blue Supergiant & the Earth, in which the tree trunk to the Tree of Life was in the “midst of the garden”, being a reference to the habitable zone of the Earth’s orbit that revolved around this central spiraling structure of Sirius B. This is what is also referred to in all the worldwide myths regarding the Cosmic Tree, World Tree, Africa’s Iron Tree, World Pillar, China’s Mount Meru, India’s Mount Mandaras, and so on as thoroughly researched by Giogio de Santillana and Hertha Von Dechend in their monumental work, “Hamlet’s Mill: An Essay Investigating the origins of Human Knowledge and Its Transmission Through Myth”.

The processes of "mythoconvolution" through the countless eons has diluted the original post-catastrophic data and actual historical accounts, skewing the information into myth, fanciful tales and fables that people embrace today, hence the evolution of fairytales. No culture on Earth is immune to this process, not even Hebrew mythology. This is not to say that the Supernatural God of the Hebrews and His great exploits are grouped into this category, but rather, that some of the Hebrew accounts have also been subject to mythoconvolution due to the long passage of time producing some misinterpretations by well-meaning theologians unaware of this process.

Seven... I haven't read all your posts. I don't have time. I read your heart a few times...It's been broken like the crust of this planet...

I like your human understanding. It's a good witness. Greater than the secrets stepping out of time to invade your waking thoughts and drown out the mighty work the Lord has done in you.

I couldn't stop the ebb and flow of the solar system...It invaded everything l did.

Knowledge is hungry...and it's in a hurry. Ever notice that? It wants more and more of our minds. And you and l both know it never stops...Like Langoliers devouring up the simple acts of a tender heart and replacing them with the lonely cosmos.

Seven..God cured me of much of this through working with the developmentally disabled.. What a God we have. How precious his ways. You know... the "Supernatural God of the Hebrews" and one of "His great exploits."

Seven...I pray you find rest.
That's my prayer for you...in Jesus name.

Miki...

Yes, the Lord breaks us all down like the shattered crust of the Earth to build us up, His Way, to a renewed "State of Restoration in Christ". Indeed, He is a mighty a wondrous God whose companionship I surely trust on this exciting journey of "Rediscovery", of unraveling the True Reality of our past and God's Creation hidden and buried by the "god of time" who wickedly desires His-Story (History) to be kept hidden from us in the shadowy depths of murky oblivion.

Happy Resurrection Day!

AMEN! (Some one wants to argue here!)

Fidelio...

You must read "FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY: The Hidden History of the Human Race" by Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson, two non-Christians, who are impeccable researchers. It will open your eyes as you have never before imagined.

From the bible I can read some circumstantial evidence.
The table of nations consists of descendants of Noah, who make up for a number of major Near Eastern civilizations. Clearly, there was no-one instead inhabiting those areas. Only makes me wonder why. Seems as if the lands were really empty.

During the Tower of Babel story, it is written that the people who built this tower, were moving to settle from another land. They didn't want to be separated again, so they chose the Tower of Babel as a point of orientation or identity or focus (name=identity). Babel is supposed to be a very fertile land, so why was it ready to be inhabited yet? Where did this people come from? Another part of Mesopotamia? One would expect that fertile lands would be the first ones to be inhabited, and that people would only subsequently settle lands of more "marginal" revenue.

More often than not, when examples are mentioned in the Bible, a nation occupies new lands when the existing habitat is getting overcrowded. Like the people who built the Tower of Babel, they may not have wished to separate themselves from their land where they grew up, but it must have been inspired by a problem of overpopulation.
(Table of Nations): Assur went out (from another civilization) to establish Assur. From historiography and archaeology, we know that the Assyrian civilization is a derivate civilization from an original Sumerian one.
(Tower of Babel): The ones who built the Tower of Babel were expats settling a new area. The Bible says that they didn't want to get separated AGAIN. It thus was out of a kind of necessity that part of the nation had to move.
(Abraham): Lot's separation from Abraham due to overgrazing or limited resources. They settled among themselves what land they would take. Clearly, it belonged to no-one else if they had this say! The lands must have been pretty empty back then! What had happened, that this could be possibie? Some cataclysm? The Deluge?
(Exodus): The people of Israel is growing faster than the Egyptian population, which leads to a kind of xenofobia. Looks as if God wouldn't have intervened, that Egypt had much trouble keeping this growing and growing nation under its control. They may have feared that the Hebrews would become a "too" substantial nation within a nation.

This is circumstantial or implicit evidence just saying it all!

Greets, Divinespark

Did one notice what Edgar Cayce readings say about Atlantis?
Atlantis had a Law of One.

Some Hebrew Laws insist upon unity. Hold in mind, that unity of one's interior being, prevents one from being a doubter (doubt = result of being split internally, in the mind) or someone who says yes and means no. It's powerful, to be one inside! And exactly around those people are all these what we call miracles. God professes a great liking for such people as His spokesmen, time after time.

Oh how "coincidental"...

Examples:
Deuteronomy 22:
- A man shall not wear woman's clothes
- Don't return to the same wife after divorcing
- Don't sow your fields with two types of seed
- Don't plow with an ox and a donkey at the same time
- One type of material of your clothes
- One type of measuring stone
And furthermore the intolerance towards other religions or the recognition of only one religion (The Religion) as the only one which is worth calling a religion, is an example of the Law of One. There is only One God (the law of THE ONE). The Law of One or the Law of THE one may just be a linguistic thing, ancient language often lacks words like "the" or "a(n)" so it just matters if those words are translated literally or adjusted to our Germanic idiom knowing words like that in front of nouns.

There are no 2 truths at the same time where one is more "material" or "short-sighted" than the other there is a clear superiority of the one gradation of truth above the other. More intelligent or far-reaching in knowledge, without having to prove it because it was already self-evident, beyond doubt, if you will.

The Law of One lifestyle in various explicit examples mentioned in the Edgar Cayce readings, is much like or exactly similar to the ideal attitude propagated by the Bible or the ones who wrote the Bible down in the name of God. And why not? It could hold true for the most original civilizations who once inhabited the earth as well.
The "love thy neighbour" is an example of the Law of One way of life.
Giving of self, sharing it with another, is an example of the Law of One.
Showing consideration for the innocent or the oppressed is an example of the Law of One.
There is very much similarity to the attitude preached by Christ.
One major difference is (but again, it's much like the Old Testament still) is that both Law of One and Sons of Belial people were what the bible would call "drivers" to their subordinate lower workers. The only examples however of people showing consideration for them were of the Law of One.

Edgar Cayce was a sunday school teacher, and very scrupulous concerning his faith in his daily life. He didn't remember one single session of his over 10.000 readings, when in waking state. This piousness extended into his vocabulary. From Robert Monroe's experiments with contacting entities during Out of Body state, Monroe was told by entities that they used Monroe's vocabulary in order to have a dialogue with him which he could understand. He noticed this by the use of an informal modern term like "okay", which prompted this question in one of these dialogues as to why they used this term where they seemed so unearthly or non-physical.

Likewise, Cayce's use of terminology is seen in the term "sons of Belial". This is clearly a biblical term. It is meant to fit an understanding, and if you know from the Bible what a son of Belial is (a materialist, to the point where injustices are committed in service of this materialism or short-sightedness) it's one half of the split which occurred in Atlantis! Atlantis had a split dividing society in "children of the Law of (the) One" and the "sons of Belial". The Sons of Belial in the examples in the readings, are a very close description if not exact, of what the Bible loathes in dissidents' way of life! And the sons of Belial WERE dissidents, from an original faith. They turned more and more materialistic, or "sons of belial"-like.

If this "sons of belial" is the opposite of the Law of One, I am very ready to assume that the Law of One therefore was much like, or even the original expression of the Belief in God in pre-Deluge times. And I hope I am forgiven if I may have been wrong, but it seems just so obvious to me. And even more if I read the importance attached to One-ness in more than one aspect, in what is expected from the faithful in the Bible. Even the attunement of ALL heart, ALL soul and ALL thinking is an aspect of that. Leaving no room for doubts, hesitations, and increasing the idea that The Faith is self-evident, The Truth, The One religion, of the One God.

Greets, Divinespark

For those who are novice scholars to the “Sleeping Prophet”, Edgar Cayce, and his readings, I admonish a caveat towards these investigations and matters due to their demonic revelation by demon spirits (“spirit guides” and the “entities”). This area of information reconnaissance is strictly for the well-grounded veteran in Christ rooted in the Holy Scriptures, those Spiritual Warriors of whom can differentiate lie from Truth as Divinespark has demonstrated and are not easily overcome by the deceptive powers of darkness.

In addition to what Divinespark has revealed, it, too, was my conclusion that the “Sons of the Law of One”, the “Sons of Light”, were a body of God-fearing believers who lived in the former Antediluvium World of Atlantis prior to its destruction. According to the Cayce demonic transmissions this group opposed the atrocious acts of the Sons of Belial, who began to abuse a genetically engineered species of “Subhumans”, soulless automatons produced for purposes of warfare, servitude and sexual lust. We can see this is the current threshold that our current global technoculture has reached, a mirror-image of the days of Noah, as word of covert “black-ops projects” from the U.S. government leaks out, relaying horror tales of genetically engineered species with multiple arms, multi-heads, even the concept of “growing” cloned armies of hybrid human-cockroach warriors where the insect genetics provides an exoskeletonal outer armor of protection.

But, again, a word of caution, for Satan works on many levels. On one level he promotes blatant and obvious evil, hence the “Sons of Belial”, and yet, simultaneously, on another level he promotes a more cunning and more sinister evil that is masked as benevolence, love and light, for he is also Lucifer, the beautiful “Angel of Light”. Hence, as we can begin to see a form of benevolence emerging onto our current world scene rooted in a form of seeming love, without Divine Love, a unity, oneness and peace, so also Satan must have done the same in prior Earth Ages, in the Days of Noah, the times of Atlantis. Thus, it is also probable that, though the people were sincerely well meaning, the “Sons of the Law of One” may have possibly been of that persuasion, since it was only Noah, the eight who took refuge in the Ark, who were the only qualified Righteous of God throughout the entire Antediluvium Earth that were spared by God. Just as we see today how a World Unity is materializing rooted in peace and love towards one’s fellow man, and good works without faith, denying the One True God, and operating on their own accord. St. John of Patmos was shown how this emergent group of people in our end times will operate… “These are of ONE mind, and they will give power and authority to the beast.” (Rev 17:13)

In our current Earth Age cycle, Satan has attempted on several occasions to manifest oneness ultimately focusing adulation upon himself. One such attempt was via the Egyptian Amenhotep IV who changed his name to Akhenaten to honor the new monotheist deity Aten symbolized by the Sun and the Egyptian Ankh.

I have only read the last 2 posts but none of this Cayce stuff makes sense to me.

I recommend that all Christians stay away from this stuff. Well grounded veterans in Christianity should be the first to reject this and avoid wasting their time.

I read the word "Atlantis".in post# 38.....and know to walk away..........................................benny

Atlantis is "Fallen Eden". Before it became corrupt, it was the location of the Cradle of Humankind and the Garden of God. Noah lived there and built his ark there. Atlantis, today, is buried beneath the ice sheet of the South Polar Ice Cap; the continent of Antarctica and Atlantis (Fallen Eden) are one in the same. Our current poles and axial of orientation is not the original orientation of the Earth. The original North Pole was the Brazilian Highlands, and the original South Pole was the area of the Philippines. The Flood of Noah was triggered by mass celestial bombardment from a cosmocataclysm. This event collapsed the upper hydrospheric shield (Prima Altohydrosphere), split the Earth asunder (fractured the Perilithosphere creating the seafloor Rift Faults and perpendicular Fracture Zones), released the hyperpressurized subterranean seas (creating the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and raised the sea level an additional 5,000 feet), and it caused a 45% pole shift. This pole shift caused inertia where the oceans displaced out of their basins and overran the continents, and it caused a 45% displacement of the location of Noah's Ark from the location of the Atlantis/Eden/Antarctic continent to the location of Turkey/Iran, where it ultimately rested on Mt. Ararat after the waters receeded to there current sea level, 3,000 feet higher than their original level.

Noah was 'perfect in his generation' ... but it didn't say anything about his family or in-laws...They got to come along for the ride because of the goodness of God and the need to repopulate.. But they were far from perfect.

The term "sleeping prophet" was a well coined word for Edgar Cayce. Dead away...

When you listen, seeds are planted..Like looking at pornography...it stays with you..

(Oh be careful little eyes and ears)

And don't you think God buried Atlantis for a reason? Should we assume that in these end times God knew men would begin to investigate...Sure he knew. Doesn't make it ok...It's a hook raised up from the grave.

Knowledge is tempting but

simplicity is so great to come home to!

It's the peace of resting in the fact that Christ handles things for us. The hand of God...

I don't have to understand it all. It's OK...I can work in the garden...

Seven...the freedom of striving is the best thing l ever did....I'm giving my whole life to him. One piece at a time. Wish it were all at once but l'd be a liar to claim that. My heart really does long for others to know that rest..We can have it here. We don't have to wait till we die to enter in. My Dad got it but not till the end...so sad.

This is a horrible misch masch of the Genesis flood account mixed up with a whole lot of New Age hocus pocus. I can absolutely guarantee that Eden is NOT Atlantis because the angels drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, placed a sword at the gate and refused mankind entry back into it. So it is laughable to suggest that it became the cradle of humanity. No amount of rationalisation of evidentiary facts could lead anyone to believe that there was a hydrospheric shield around the earth or that the poles originally were 45% displaced, or that Atlantis is under the South Pole, or that the sea level rose 5000 feet and then dropped 2000 feet. This is like breakfast at Milliways. Six impossible things before breakfast.

What a strange character. You believe all kinds of crackpot notions off websites and yet you disbelieve the literal account of creation in Genesis.

Please get off your thunderbox and go to bed.

"Thunderbox"? Who 's really on a "thunderbox"? Hmmm?

“All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third it is accepted as self-evident.”

-Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)


"There are those who will accept and embrace the Light of Truth,
and there are those who will reject it and continue embracing the darkness of familiarity,
and the old ways will pass away while the new ways will flourish."

- Mathew Lord (1882 - 1948)

Why do Creationists postulate the upper hydrospheric shield? As God-fearing men and women have they not examined Genesis carefully to reach this conclusion from the scriptures describing the phenomenon of the perpetual mist?

Why does the geology of the Brazilian Highlands have a glaciated past? Why do these oldest mountains on earth show geological structure of being crushed down by a massive ice plate 2,500 miles across at 45-degrees to the current North Pole?

Why during oil drilling in Alaska do the oil companies pull up tropical palm fronds from one mile below the Arctic permafrost? Isn’t it ironic that when one repositions a globe of the earth so that the Brazilian Highlands are the North Pole---PRESTO... the equator goes directly through Alaska?

Why do sea floor core samples pulled up from the Labrador Sea between northeast Canada and Greenland contain ancient tropical algae diatom. Could it be the equator and tropic belt also once went through this area?

Why are there graphic depictions of the northern celestial canopy containing only the Southern Celestial Hemisphere in ancient Egyptian temples which are not located in the southern hemisphere of the earth?

Why is there a massive ancient metropolis with giant pyramids, a network of thoroughfares, tunnels and a complex urban spread of geometric structures located off the west coast of Cuba and at the incredible depth of nearly 3,000 feet below sea level?

If Eden did not “fall” into a corrupt state, then why was the original spelling of Eden’s name changed from “Edhen” to “Eden”? Etymological research indicates that the authentic spelling of “Eden” was “Edhen”, where the “h” indicates the “Presence” of God. This is an obvious divine principle as conveyed in God’s changing of the spelling of “Abram” into “Abra‘h’am” and “Sara” into “Sara‘h’”, where a covenant and “presence” of God’s interaction and communion was established. The “H” is the 8th letter to the alphabet (in Hebrew it is the “chet”) and it is the “Dominical Number” of Christ’s authority, for “Yeshua” trans-numerates into “888”. Prior to the addition of the “h”, Abram and Sara were WITHOUT God. It is clear that the removal of the “h” from the name “Edhen” was the removal of God, Himself, from out of Eden, an “auto-evacuation” or “Theocentric Expulsion” of His Presence due to its defilement from Original Sin; thus, the name “Eden” degenerated into its new “fallen” state WITHOUT the covenant and Presence of God. God could not remain within the defiled system because Light pierces the Darkness. Hence, His Presence of Purity and Holiness would have consumed, devoured and destroyed the defiled creation, for that which is defiled cannot stand before God and expect to live. So out of Pure Love for His creation He auto-evacuated the system in order to save and salvage it. A clue to the ultimate maturated state of corruption of Fallen Eden is also indicated by the Ancient Chinese name for the continent Eden/Atlantis, being “Ho Sang”, the “Land of Women (Witches)”, as the scriptures of the spiritual mating of the Nephilim and the Daughters of Cain refers to, causing them to be simultaneously empowered by seven fallen seraphim that sit on thrones in the "Outer Circle", called the "Lower Heaven", and creating the illusion of a “preterhuman” state, themselves being (re)born into "men of great renown", but their power was not their own.

When the next pole shift occurs (before 2025) during the next passing of the Sirius Binary, the missing half of our Solar System, there will be a new axial orientation established and the ice sheet of Antarctica will melt away exposing artifacts of the Cradle of Humankind, their ruined cities and clues to their sophisticated technoculture. This is the coming of the star “Wormwood” (Dragon Tree); it’s coming is prophesied in the Book of Revelation. After this "Wisdom" is released from the ice, then Evolution MUST collapse and become extinct, proving the Word of God and the Bible to be ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Only a fool will be against this.

Oceanographer Dr. Paulina Zelitsky discovered the Sunken City of Cuba:
http://s8int.com/water1.html

Tropical Forests in Alaska:
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF1/188.html
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF2/216.html

Evidence of wood from primordial forests on Antarctica indicates a pole shift:
http://www.geocities.com/aleph135/antarctic20.html

The Egyptian Dendera Zodiac in the Temple of Hathor is in reverse, west is east and east is west:
http://sunnyokanagan.com/joshua/Denderazodiac.html

The 1513 Piri Reis Map was compiled by Admiral Piri Reis of Turkey from several other more ancient map sources and depicts the accurate coastlines of the Americas and Antarctica WITHOUT its ice sheet and it is an accurate SATELLITE azimuthal equidistant projection from near the epicenter of Cairo, Egypt, indicating that the map’s ultimate geographically accurate data source is from a former global technoculture that had space orbital satellite technology:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

Seventhunders...you don't cease to amaze me. You're understanding of the Ancient days is to me, correct. So much we don't understand. However, in the "Last Days' knowledge will be increased and it is being increased. I've studied these events some and really, I've never had it explained so well, as you just did. I believe we have a Poll shift coming again soon. Also, EC said when we see fires in Florida..floods and shifting of earth in California (major mud slides) we will know this is the beginning of the end of days.

Thanks...
Hope

Many things... are given on a need to know basis.

Truth isn't any less truth because it isn't received nor is the person not able to swallow any less full.

Only mathematicians push a square peg in a round hole...

Thanks so much for being an ally in Christ.

Many people have had visions of the pole shift as well, i.e. (the controversal) Mother Shipton...

“Then upside down the world shall be,
And gold found at the root of tree…”

The South Pole is considered the “root” to the “Earth Tree”; after Antarctica is moved out of the South Polar region due to a pole shift into more tempered climate major portions of the ice cap will thaw, exposing the evidence and remnants of a great civilization, being the “gold” that will be found there, a former “Golden Age of Man”.

And later she cites how great structures (skyscrapers of cities) are suddenly flung into one of the polar frigid zones becoming the new polar ice cap all frozen over…

“…Great houses stand in farflung vale,
All covered o'er with snow and hail.”

The full end time vision of Mother Shipton:
http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/amethystbt/prophesis2.html


The pole shifts are also mentioned in several Bible Codes...

The pole shift period of 2010 and 2014:
http://www.exodus2006.com/poleshift.htm

Two 10º pole shifts from 6 asteroid impact into Russia and China:
http://www.exodus2006.com/poleshift.htm

The final radical pole shift of 2012:
http://survive2012.com/geryl1.php

This is unbelievable that a so-called Christian is able to promote Mother Shipton without being run out of the forum. Mother Shipton aka Ursula Southeil was a soothsayer back in the 16th century and predicted that the world would end in 1881. It did not so they claimed that this particular prophecy was a fraud. So every prophecy which does not work out is considered a fraud by a copier of her work whereas those which do seem to work out are attributed to Mother Shipton. So much of her work did not occur that the majority of it is considered a fraud to the extent that even the existence of Mother Shipton is questioned.

How can we have any confidence in seven thunders who promotes soothsayers and wackos which believe the world is going to flip over. This same man rejects the plain words of Genesis and Exodus which state that the world and the heavens were created in six days by the living God. He abandons the truth of the scriptures and follows after every wacko idea.

I can absolutely guarantee that the world will not flip over. The scripture teaches that the heavens will shake and the stars fall fro