Word to ya

1Jo 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. 1Jo 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death. 1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jo 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love [of God], because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down [our] lives for the brethren.

I hope to be a love and a life administrator in this forum. Is this scripture passage not an intensely suggestive witness of how big this truth of loving your brother is with God? To be declared "abiding in death" for non compliance?

A dictionary explanation of "abiding."

1/To put up with; tolerate: can't abide such incompetence.

2/To wait patiently for: “I will abide the coming of my lord” (Tennyson).

3/ To withstand: a thermoplastic that will abide rough use and great heat.

But what is an abiding death? Abiding suggests something of life to me...A state of exisiting in. But here is a double edged sword...death and life... passing from death to life for loving the brethren and staying in death if you fail to love...

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Maybe this abiding in John 15:5 is a waiting patiently for? I have always stood by the fact of this abiding as being compliant with His will and to be found doing His works when He comes...certainly a part of that will is loving the brethren. He has commanded it. Nothing less will do

Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

I love the brethren

Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
Discernment to you all through the LORD Jesus Christ.

Maz.

I have a little story and then a question for you.

There was once a guy that loved to be the high priest. He was all puffed up
and full of himself. He wooed everyone with his flowery words and his reasonings
of man but projected himself to be a man of God. Well then there was this other
guy that truly was a brother. He loved God and God's truth so much that he died to himself, met the LORD Jesus and studied and studied and learned the rightly
divided word and proclaimed it and preached it and spent hours sharing with others what Jesus had taught him. Well, the puffed up guy..lets call him Caiaphas,
butted heads with this Brother..let's call him BrotherBD, often but always ended up on the losing end of the argument because the sword of the truth always slayed the reasonings of this arrogant pompous Pharisee.
Well, it came to pass the call went out for anyone in the court that wanted to have some power. Of course Caiaphas jumped at the oppotunity to have power. BrotherBD just went about doing what Jesus had called him to do.
It came to pass that Caiaphas was all puffed up in himself one day(as usual)
and he decided he was going to give everyone in the court a word from God. As
it turned out of course because Caiaphas wasn't really hearing the voice of God
that he spoke words against the word of God. So, BrotherBD in his selfless obedience to Jesus rose up and spoke against the FALSE word. BrotherBD was
clearly right and Caiaphas was clearly wrong but Caiaphas couldn't be wrong of
course so instead of humbling himself and confessing his sin and repenting he
rose up, against BrotherBD, used the power he was given and had him put away.
NOW.. the scripture that you quoted above..
1Jo 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death. 1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jo 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love [of God], because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down [our] lives for the brethren.
really speaks to me and relates to this story perfectly.
Let me continue.
There was turmoil in the court because of this 'putting away' of a beloved brother.
The most affected was another brother..let's call him TC, who was grieved that his
innocent BrotherBD would be hated and done away with in such an unjust and hateful manor all in the name of the Lord. Such ugly devilish darkness!!!!
Because of his Faithful LOVE for the brethren TC Faithfully spoke out against this
ungodly act demanding confession and repentance of Caiaphas but Caiaphas hardened his heart and stiffened his neck and rather do the Godly thing he tried
feverishly to get rid of TC also. He used every chance he could almost every time
he spoke to sow seeds of discord among the brethren against TC but Jesus watched over TC and delivered him out of the hand of the ENEMY. Glory be to the
LORD Jesus.
Anyway, it came to pass that Caiaphas decided on another plan of deceit. Instead
of confessing and repenting of his hateful sin against a blessed Brother in the Lord,
he decided to leave the court for a short time..change his name, lets say it's now
Razmataz.. and his looks and then come back to do his same old ungodly, puffed up, arrogant, pompous, act supposing that TC wouldn't know. Caiaphas even came
back spouting a message of Love for the brethren! The gall of this guy just never ends. He thinks that if he flatters and lovey dovey's everyone that everyone will be on his side and anyone that doesn't show love for sweet old Caiaphas..I mean
Razmataz then they are the bad guy and not Caiap..I mean Razmataz. But the truth is that the unrepentant act of murdering one of the brethren remains no matter how much pomp and perfume is thrown in the air. Now, TC doesn't walk in darkness but is in the light of life and is kept well aware of the enemies tactics by the Lord Jesus who sees and knows all. TC could smell the rat and then Jesus
gave him confirmation. Praise God for the Holy Spirit. Having the mind of Jesus,
TC, knows that the appearance and the name may be different but the same
unrepentant murderer of the brethren is in the court. Caiap..I mean Razmataz thinks he's so cool and crafty but he is only confirming the darkness of his heart
with every new move he makes. The words that he speaks in the name of the Lord
only serve to add to his damnation and in the meantime they continue to deceive many.

So, Maz, what do you say? Is Caiaphas still Caiaphas even though he changed his
appearance and name?

I say he is. It's a matter of inner heart change not outward appearance change.

And how do you think TC should handle this new Razmataz character?

TC is definitely in the Spirit and Caiaphas(Razmataz) is definitely in the flesh and
as long as the Spirit is around it will war against the flesh..and will win.
The way I've got it figured is that Razmataz will continue to sow seeds of discord
about TC and try to get him put away too since he doesn't 'really' love the brethren.

I look forward to your response Maz.

Word to ya.

2Chron.7:14
If my people, which are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray,
and seek my face,
and TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS;
then
will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will hear their land.

Peace..but not at the expense of Holiness and Truth, Tom

When l think of the account of Jesus healing the blind man in stages it makes me wonder if when God opens our spiritual eyes, some may have similar experiances as represented below..i.e see through a glass darkly. I know this is a physical account and it isn't a scriptural debate ...
but the story came to mind so here is a version of it.

Walking trees …
Modern science helps us understand a puzzling miracle
by Russell Grigg

In the Gospel of Mark, there is an intriguing account of how Jesus healed a blind man in a two-step process:

‘And He came to Bethsaida. And they brought a blind man to Him and begged Him to touch him. And He took the blind man by the hand and led him out of the town. And when He had spat on his eyes and had put His hands on him, He asked Him if he saw anything. And he looked up and said, I see men as trees, walking. And after that He put His hands again on his eyes and made him look up. And he was restored and saw all clearly’ (Mark 8:22–25).

Bible-believing Christians have no problem with this miracle, as the Bible presents the Lord Jesus Christ as the One who, in the beginning, created the universe and all things in it, including human life, by the power of His Word (Genesis 1; John 1:1–3; Colossians 1:16). The Lord who could do one could certainly do the other. The only question that arises is why the cure was in two stages rather than just one.

At Creation, God did not need millions of years—the greater the power, the less the need for time. He could have created everything in an instant, but chose to take six days for a reason (Exodus 20:8–11). Likewise, Jesus could have healed this man in one step, as He did all the other blind people He healed, but on this occasion He chose to take longer. The two steps were only a few moments apart, not months, so there was no time for ‘natural healing’ to occur, and the details given show that it was not a case of psychosomatic or ‘hysterical’ blindness being relieved (see below). The fact that Jesus took two stages does not mean that He was limited to some non-supernatural means to do His creative miracle. Perhaps it was so that we would see a proof of inspiration through the medical details given by the human writer, Mark, but of which he could not possibly have known the significance—details which were similar to those experienced by the people mentioned below, who had regained their sight after many years of blindness.

Virgil
Virgil was a 50-year-old man, blind from childhood, whose sight was restored in 1991 after a cataract was removed and a new lens implanted in one eye. His story is told by Oliver Sacks, Professor of Neurology at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, New York, in his book An Anthropologist on Mars.1 When the bandages were removed, Virgil could see, but he had no idea what he was seeing. Light, movement and colour were all mixed up and meaningless; all were just a blur. His brain could make no sense of the images that his optic nerve was transmitting. Although he now had eyesight, he was still mentally blind—a condition of perceptual incapacity known medically as agnosia.

Virgil could read the third line on a standard Snellan eye chart, equivalent to a visual acuity of about 20/100 (with a best of 20/80).2 However, he could not distinguish words, even though he could read Braille fluently, as well as raised or inscribed letters; he could easily read the inscribed letters on tombstones by touch. A cat was particularly puzzling, as he could see parts clearly—a paw, the nose, the tail—but the cat as a whole was only a blur, as were human faces. At the zoo, Virgil found it difficult to identify animals, and did so either by their motion or by a single feature, e.g. a kangaroo because it hopped, a giraffe because of its height, a zebra because of its stripes, and lions because of their roar. A few days after his operation, Virgil said that ‘trees didn’t look like anything on earth,’ but a month later he finally put a tree together and realized that the trunk and leaves formed a complete unit.

Clinical aspects
People who have formerly been used to a world they accessed only by touch, hearing, taste, and smell tend to be baffled by ‘appearance’ which, being optical, has no correlation in the other senses. People who have been totally blind from birth (congenital blindness) or early childhood have lived in a world of time alone, not time and space. Thus the step at the end of a porch is something which occurs for a blind person a short time after he leaves the doorway, rather than something he is aware of in space. Sacks quotes the autobiography (Touching the Rock) of John Hull, a blind man, who says that, for the blind, people are there only when they speak; they come and they go out of nothing.

Sighted babies learn to master all this as time goes by, an achievement, it should be noted, which is beyond the capacity of even our largest super-computers. People who become blind later in life have built up a ‘visual memory’ of the way things look and how they fit together in space. However, for the newly sighted, it is a huge learning task involving a radical change in both neurological and psychological functioning, a change in ‘the perceptual habits and strategies of a lifetime’—in short, in identity.

Sacks says that these sorts of difficulties ‘are almost universal among the early blinded restored to sight,’ and he mentions a patient, S.B., who could not recognize individual faces a year after his eye operation, despite his then having perfectly normal elementary vision.3

From such case histories, it appears that when sight is suddenly restored, there is the need for the development of some new pathways in the visual cortex of the brain. Thus the story of the Bethsaida blind man who saw ‘people as trees walking’ is not a poetic account; it is a clinical description. Like Virgil, this blind man could see, but he had the additional complication of agnosia—he could not make sense of what he was seeing. Jesus, having given his eyes sight, then heals his agnosia—in one miraculous instant his brain was taught what the rest of us have learned from childhood.

So why did Jesus do it this way for this man, as He didn’t have to, and apparently did not do so for any of the other blind people He healed?4

We don’t know for sure, but perhaps it is because, in healing the Bethsaida man in these two stages, He has given a built-in stamp of authority to the authenticity of the account, one that is discernible only to modern-day readers. There is no way that an apocryphal or fabricated tale could have had these details: surgical correction of congenital blindness was not being done then, so the author could not have known about the problem of agnosia in the newly sighted.

It is thus irrefutable evidence that a miracle did occur at Bethsaida. This miracle of healing would have involved restoring or creating eye structures, as well as creating new nerve pathways and connections in the brain. It was thus of the same order of miracle-working power as the making of Adam from the dust of the earth or Eve from Adam’s rib, in a similarly short time (Genesis 2:7, 21–22).



This renewing process is kind of a green gray area...We aren't quite there yet.

What is going on here?!?

This is crazy..... name changes, accusations, riddles, secrecy.......

...I'm not sure what's up but the sanest thing I've heard on here is lifeinhim61's last post.

Not that there weren't things in the other posts that I agree with also but the overall tone is NOT that of true christian love.

My greatest concern?

What messages are we sending to those who may visit this site and happen upon this thread?


This was definitely not the tone I heard when I decided to join the christian-forum.

Quite frankly, it makes me very sad......

I am praying for healing at this watering hole

Thank you for agreeing with me Lov4all... I am tired of all the mudslinging... it is not Kindergarten... we are supposed to GROW UP in the Lord. I appreciate the support.

I want to see smiles again on this forum! We used to have a lot of fun!

Rose,

You are strength, dear sister. I wish you were closer to me. How I wish I could see all of my dear ones face to face...I desired it so much from some so that I could understand the joy and greif that they are going through...if you become close to someone, at least for me, it is so much easier to find out how to help if the comversation is not peiced together and written. A touch and an arm around the other can be mroe than words could ever.

That might never be. All the more to try with the written word. I, too, would go. I have tried. I have tried to do as my heart would with everything said, but my God wil lnot let me.

Sheckel, what you began, the Lord led me to...and I will be as clever as possible, and try ever so hard to understand those beautiful numbers and try to be a good girl through all my own woes in my own period of revelation.

But I will not let you all go until I am asked to. This bunch will not be altered by the winds of change. Is it not scriptural to find the right path and do not be blown by the winds?

I have tried to do what my heart pleads and it did not get better but worse. Now, I will beg the Lord for portection of this forum and to singe the hearts of those on it with the Name of Names. Let the shame and guilt be where He places it. Let the joy of fellowship be where He places it. And let the humans remember we are all owned and in bondage to His will with every word both spoken and written.

That we are right may not be what he wished us to say. Perhaps He would have us sit quitetly and then look us and only reply,"let he who has not sinned, cast the first stone."

leia

Amen

Leia, I just want to hug you!!! You bring tears to my eyes... I wish all here could join hands and hug each other. Have a nice repentant cry session and have the Holy Spirit wash over each of us with mercy and grace, giving us a new start. Thank you for your reply. I do appreciate all the loving souls on here that support each other each day. Don't know how I'd do without you all. ;-)

I'll take a hug.
I love hugs.
Yup they work for me.
I'm in the Lord's army but I think I'm the sucky part of the army.
I cry easy and want peace here, just like I want peace everywhere.

I wonder if God is getting tired of me because I keep asking for peace
everywhere.
Satan doesn't like peace does he. Let's show him.
Yesterday I did my exercises,not because I wanted to
my husband told me I'm getting a little chubby.
Boy was that a kind way of putting it or what?

Anyway I pretended I was popping Satan in the head with
every exercise move I did. Take that Satan, how about that!!!

Here I thought I was peaceful. I just let out a whole lot of rage
against the devil. Boy did that feel good.Today he's probably coming
after me again.

Well I'll do my exercises but this time I will pray my socks off
okay then I'll do one punch to the devil.LOL
I just hope the rage wasn't because someone told me I'm getting
chubby hehehe-just kidding hubby

Amen... we rebuke you, Devil in the name of the Lord Jesus. We stand together as one here on this forum against you... in the name of PEACE, LOVE and HEALING! Thanks Rosie... I'm so glad you're with us! May the peace that passeth all understanding be with everyone today! We need it here!

Tomcat, I am not judging your motives, but for your persistent actions all your posts will be moderated from now on. This post by you was totally unnecessary and totally wrong in every way.

Yes, I asked you to stand for the truth, not to nail down an old dead horse. As they say at my work: "The issue is closed." So why do you persist? You are acting in the same way Bruce did and it is wrong.

What about all the good things that Boenerges has done? It seems that there is nothing good to say at all by you about him. He stepped down from moderating after agreeing also not to use his prophetic gift. And yet still this does not suffice you!

I have politely rebuked you publically because you have sinned against Boenerges publically.

Sorry brother, but I had to do this.

2Ti 2:23 But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes. 2Ti 2:24 And the Lord's servant must not strive, but be gentle towards all, apt to teach, forbearing, 2Ti 2:25 in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,

Thanks lifinHim61, I am happy to be here. I have a joy in my heart.
That devil can be a big trouble maker. He likes nothing better than to
bring discord amongst God's followers.

Sorry devil but I have sat on you most of the day.
That's also my reasoning for sitting at the computer again.
I might as well sit on the devil and have great fellowship
with all of you wonderful people at the same time.

So heavy on my heart...and God IS SO GOOD ALL THE TIME!!!!!

Tonight's Sunday sermon was on just this thing and I am so blessed with having a wonderful man to lead our congregation. One who can manage to say what must be said kindly, with the love he has for Jesus and for us as fellow servants of Jesus.

It is often difficult to keep up with his going from one scripture to the next, he is quite a man of the Word!

Tonight we were in James, Chapter 4. He told us that we are blessed to be in congregation where discord is not present. He said that we are the exception and not the rule. But I have known no other congregation than this one and so it grieves me to know that Christians do.

Jesus is the focus; the coming back of our Lord is the reason for this entire site is it not? I would hate to have Him see us in the middle of disputes in His name.

I know one thing from knowing the people here...it CAN be worked through in love.

leia

AMEN Leia!!

[quote=Tomcat,Nov 26 2005, 09:33 PM]

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I do not know how many people will read this reply I am placing here. Obviously my friend tomcat will read it.

tom, you are a work. I have to wonder why it has been that you have sought to denigrate me so vehemently in this forum. Because you have never PM'd me one single time in the months this challenging debate has gone forth, I am replying in forum as well. At this juncture, that door is closed.

I am going to say what is on my heart. I would likely never have entangled myself with truth no lies if I had known how doggedly determined he was to be right. I never "chased" him and I simply replied to a few of his more controversial posts. He has a slant on the faith which requires a decision to be made as to the relevance of those things he promulgated. I did not know at that time that you were such a disciple of his. I have seen it written where you said, "If I am here, bruce is here." That tells me you place great importance on him and are majorily indignant towards anyone who would question him. (especially me because of my prophetic word and moderating duties) I see you as a follower of a man.

I cannot divulge the things that were reported and talked over on the moderator's forum because it would be inappropriate to do so.

But I will say that the very day that Truth no lies was banned from the site, I had posted in that forum that I felt he should be given another chance. But that was not my call, and at the end of the day he was banned. Not for what he said, but for being so tenacious. Just like you are in this place now. Do you know how much torment you have caused me? Do you know how much? The other night I woke up from a dream of a huge black tomcat sitting on my chest and he was staring into my face with seeringly dark cold green eyes. I was warned about you in the spirit.

I saw that with a certain fear, for I knew it was meant to represent you. I am not here to make accusations, even as you continually have done to me. Now, I understand that when one has a gift to declare things from the realm of the Spirit, it comes with a price tag. I have paid my dues, thankyou very please.

I have seen your accusations about me being a false prophet, and pretty much a false teacher. I have said nothing publically about it, nor how you abuse your privelage of being so word based by turning that word into a weapon of castigation. I have seen where you have said that the Holy Spirit does not convict of sin. (twice I have read that) yet my amplified bible uses that exact word to offset the word in KJV of John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: In the amplified bible, that word is translated as "convict."

I am thus saying, in an instance you are also a teacher of falsehoods. Nuff said.

I am reminded of a post where you declared openly I have proven myself to be a false prophet because a word I posted said that "I love all men equally, even the unsaved." You said I was in grievous error (effctively) and yet Christ died for the sin of the world (unsaved men) whom He love enough to come down from heaven and suffer for us. Of all the word I was given by GOD I have to laugh at the inanity of those who seek to rebuke. I have always stood ready to defend the word I have been given. I bent over backwards to be approved of men in so doing. Even Shekel asked me to please place the scripture references with my work. I did that and added a disclaimer that I have a word from God, but it is for every man to discern. You also pooh poohed that which I did to please others and to be at risk in so doing.

I have two great regrets in all this. That I have incurred your wrath for what is for all intents and purposes, trumped up charges against me. But even more, my credibility has been marred for years to come.

I was accredited by people on this forum with the responsibility of moderator to ask me to join them in moderating., That tells me I had earned a position of trust, even though I have allowed that trust to be eroded in dealing with you. You have done me a great dishonour. But I forgive you. I miss being a moderator and desire with all my heart to be reinstated as such. I left of my own will as I knew that I could not delete my account as boanerges and sign on as Mazinaw and be credible. I told the moderators what I had done and who I was. I had to tell them why I quit moderarting, afterall.

I published my intentions also when I changed my name from "whosoever" to "boanerges." That was elective surgery as I felt my "whosoever" name was too generic. Simple and no slight of hand. I changed from "boanerges" after a short time for two reasons. One, I was being called, "boner" by some folks. Shekel had warned me I would likely get that from folks. Secondly, I hoped to distance myself from you, tomcat. You are doggedly determined to win at my expense. But I forgive you.

I wish I could unwind the clock, but I can say that this has been a slice. I am not going to be run off by you. If any moderator says I have stepped over the line here, I will gladly leave the forum and not come back.. But if I can be forgiven for all the subtelty I have created trying to pussy foot around you, tom, I will gladly remain active and obedient to the will of those in whose service I remain.

blessings and love (and I mean that)

Mazinaw...Larry

I stand beside you Larry

I'll take a bloody nose for ya.







Blessings to all
Jeep

ditto for me too Larry.

I weep at those words.

I'll stand in the gap also.
All for one and one for all.
Kim

Now get back in the saddle brother...we need you back in your old form



Jeep

Jeep, where did the dog go? (your avitar?)

Um well I thought about changing it to my shark avatar, and I did for a moment, but I changed it and I thought I would reflect the salty side to me, (love of the ocean) I am an old mariner.....witha special emphasis on old...lol

Jeep

I stand with you too Larry. Tommieeeeee and Lareeeeeee....now get your hineys into Live Chat and have your spats there!!! Tom, please bring up your issues with Larry to Larry himself....not for the entire forum to read. I have been disrupted in my studies here on this site because of this. This forum is for fellowship; not to judge one another.

THIS IS NO STONE THROWIN' CONTEST BY GOLLY!!

Larry get back in the saddle and Tom stop judging him!

Shake hands and get on with it!

If you have issues....pm each other and go into live chat.....your spattering sweat all over the forum here!

In all loving kindness to you both, blessings from Christ Jesus that we fellowship as He would want us too?

Amen?

LOVE YOU GUYS!!

I see great peace in your avatar jeep and I see peace in mine too...

Don't get me wrong, I love the very peaceful feel of your new avitar jeep, but I loved that ol' dog with those sad eyes

Hey Karen we didnt a salty dog tonight.
I miss the dog also but I still like the salty dog. I needed it
Kim

Am joyfully out of the loop on the disagreement that has been discussed here, but would like to publically thank Larry for the prophetic word he sent me. In addition, want to give him confirmation that his message was completely in line with my prayer life and additional confirmations from the Lord. Take comfort in the fact that the devil is on your trail...when he leaves you completely alone you're no threat to him...

Am joyfully out of the loop on the disagreement that has been discussed here, but would like to publically thank Larry for the prophetic word he sent me. In addition, want to give him confirmation that his message was completely in line with my prayer life and additional confirmations from the Lord. Take comfort in the fact that the devil is on your trail...when he leaves you completely alone you're no threat to him..



Amen and amen choir girl, I couldn't have said it better.


Jeep aka saltydog(sailor term for sailor)

What I find interesting about this conflict it that no-one has the foggiest idea what started it .

Its like . te dum te dum , te dum , ....no won't be provocative ............

Its like ...........


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I also want to thank you Larry, when I joined this forum, I just came out of a great time of testing and you gave me a word that was very accurate in that God said my mind was under attack.
Your word confirmed a lot of things.

Tom, I love you too. We sometimes do the right things at the wrong time. This is in the open now and I am glad.

We need unity on this form , the last days are upon us. In unity we will stand
love to all
Cornelius

This thread was started by me and I was wearing a mask. For that I apologize to all. I was not trying to subvert anything. I was trying to get headspace where there might be a little air to breathe in what for me has been a sinking ship.

I posted under a topic adjuring us to love and how that is the commandment of the Lord ad we can do no less. We can do no less than love one another as Jesus will not take less than our love.

I was not trying to be subversive in anyway to this message of love, and going forward, I will be in consideration how anything I post may be used to exemplify the love walk.

A great deal of vindication has been achieved for me. I am not as alone as I thought I was. I am so pleased the Lord has used me here. I am so overwhelmed by the love, joy and peace which should be evidient from here on out. These are the first three fruit of the Spirit and that will of necessity flow on to longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance. (self control) Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

The upshot of all this is so marvelous as this has been a two week period in my personal life where much has been accomplished. Even in my personal life there have been great steps forward. My wife and I live a quiet, godly life and go to work daily. We ask nothing of anyone, and assist others when we can, even financially. But the devil has attacked us in our relationships with others (not we ourselves in our relationship) and certain elements of my wife's inner circle and my inner circle family have been stirred to strive against us.

We held all that up in prayer, and the breakthrough has come into every issue we plead before God over the last while. We have been presented faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy as these issues have been laid to rest and people have come along side us once more in our travail in the Spirit.

So too, here on this forum, which is an extension of my family, I feel the Lord has moved in a mysterious way to do things for me that greatlly abait the synergy of contenions and strife.

My battle scars are evident to me however. I have said I will not post prophetically on forum in order to bring easement. However, that is an area of concern for me as it is my intense area of interest and I cannot deny that flow when it comes.

Having said that, I must say the scars are not healed. When there is strife in the body, the anointing will not flow. Right now there is scarcely a trickle.

I will be moderatring again and my name online is Mazinaw and my name at home is Larry. I will never be treading this winepress again and I will be the Godly man I am called to be, so help me God.

Bless one and all and thanks to those who have found it in their hearts to do me and God service by establishing a line of credibility of that flow of the Spirit of God which has emanated from the heart of God through me in ways that have brought healing and understanding to those who have been touched. I am a man blessed among many. I love you all, and remain your servant in Christ. In all love joy and peace.

Maz/Larry

Well now that your mask has been removed why not get your name changed back?


Cornelius???


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Sinking ship? I don't think so...

Just a hole in the sail made by a rogue wind passing by.

This may be hard to read but please give me a chance
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.............LOVE OF THE BRETHEREN

the love of the bretheren........or love of a fellow christian......is connected with the body of CHRIST; for as the arm has no discord with the leg as both agree and are in conection by the blood so also are the many membered body of CHRIST.......but remember it is right to cast off from the body those parts that are bad and of discord, for it is better to enter into the LORD with one good member than with one bad part......but discord can be searched out.. by its fruit..for it is..not of the WORKS.. of the spirit.. of the WORD..of TRUETH.

.........Love thy neighbor as thyself

this is seperate from love thy bretheren, this is love thy neighbor..........(the fellow man).........this love is through the gift of JESUS and the word given in love and the fruit of charity to thy neighbor as it was given to you by another.

............love and charity..........and hate

Saten mocks us and the LORD in his portrait of the (Good Samaritan)

would you hold the head of a fellow christian and help a muslim to cut off that head.....no?..........but God said if he (a stranger) asks for a shirt to then give him your coat also. if he asks for Israel should we give him Texas as well?
do you love your neighbor as he does evil?...OK but what if he does evil in ignorance having not recieved the WORD....but still kills your baby do you still love him and help him....or do you give him the WORD and let himself be juged.......and pray for the rightous rule of law.
should you look away as his head is cut off and not watch........no?.......... but GOD said esquew evil (turn away) ..........and why does GOD want holy wus's for us to put on armor of ephesians but not to wage war both in the flesh and in the spirit ...we are to love our fellow neighbor and show him to the LORD but if he turns away then LOVE is not in him and you should cast him out for he is of no good report.
..Spiritial...Misunderstandings
it is easy to misunderstand the word if it is not kept in context......line by line .........precept by precept
Love GOD more than man
if we should not kill evil men for god said "THOU SHALL NOT KILL" but the God of the old testement killed; and killed by the thousands.....over small things in the flesh for simple things like touching his stuff, but these were great sins in the unseen world of HIS spirit. then why should we let men do geat evils in the flesh now. are these not even greater in the spirit....If you do to the least of these you have doen it to HIM.......so every head that is cut off is HIS head and every baby killed is HIS lifless body, and every child hit by an unloving parrent is HIS also.....for what we do in the small of the flesh cries out great in the house of the spirit.........this is a circumsision of the spirit.

So LOVE is a two edged sword but it is easily carried by a sword master trust in the WORD to guide your blade.


Stay in the WORD and in the WORKS.......IIqIpII

ps. Why does a God who is fair in all things tell his followers to not kill then alows the enemy to kill without mercy?
the word..... KILL.....is the word (murder)....meaning to lay in wait....

When the Master says do something, the slave does it.

What becomes of it is not our concern and we can not call it murder of killing or anything else. When the Master says do something, we do it.

I will not call the Master a murderer or a killer.

And if it is His sword I wield and His hand that moves through me in purity, then it is His actions and no one questions the Master.

When we act on our own accord and not in the will of the Master, when we tell the world and our brothers and sisters that we have decided to become master, we then take the consequences for our actions.

God will NEVER tell you to do something and then ask you to judge His actions. Nor will he ask you to do something and then make you take the consequences.

Being a Christian is very easy. Do what He tells you to do. Don't question Him. You don't have to understand it. And don't look back.


Sorry, I just get tired of my Master being called a murderer.

leia

I think you lost some of us there towards the end. Better to say clearly what you ment...Otherwise...here we go round the mulberry bush...Leia l don't think he is saying what you thought.

Yes???

Larry must speak to Shekel to get reactivated

If Larry does not reactivate the old name, it is fine with me. I will prefer the past ugliness to be buried with the old name. Now, back to my main point.

I must say I am relieved at these clarifications. I spent last weekend with a heavy heart; being uneasy with the sudden "unregistered" that appeared against Larry's previous postings last week. Anytime my spirit becomes agitated, I know something is definitely not right; but in this case, I was not sure how to go about asking why and how on the Forum, but I know I asked God why?

God knows I spent the weekend seriously reconsidering my continued participation on this Forum after Larry disappeared without any apparent reason. I guess that is why God caused these clarifications to come out in answer to my questions, even though Larry's initial posting was about love.

I was wondering whether Larry's disappearance on the Forum had anything to do with our last discussion on "Netted Disobedience"; but I had expected him to realise the message was not for him but for those of us that persist in willful disobedience.

I did not want to name names in that message, hoping all of us will take stock of our actions, but alas, those that urgently needed to reconsider their actions chose not to do so. I will urge all to take a look at that posting on "Netted Disobedience".

As for Larry, your starting afresh has not diminished you in any way. Just keep looking up to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith.

Welcome back Larry. What does Mazinaw mean?

I join others to pray for the defeat of the enemies of the work of God on this Forum in Jesus Name. AMEN!

Love of Christ.


MBATOMON

I'm glad you posted your thoughts on this issue. It bothered me in the same way.

I had my issues with Larry's style of speaking the word in the beginning but let it go... because it was the right thing to do. Not out of mechanical obediance but because l set IN MY HEART to do it.

It's a heart thing...And it feels good and right that way. And that's why l did it.
It feels good to feel good...It's Love and there's no arguement over it.

Brotherly Love...Let us all be changed.

As did I. I was very confused about name changes, but determined to remain faithful to those I had already prayed over and received confirmation over.

Confused and willing to let all of this go, but my heart, again, is not God's will.

I do not know what will come of this. I even spoke to my pastor about it. But, though I know he is skeptical about the whole internet, he encouraged me to be strong in the Word and speak peacable to all. Love for Jesus is sufficient to overcome evil.

leia

Thanks MBATOMON,

All points in your reply considered. I simply had to do something. Flee or fight. I went underground for a couple days. I had to quit moderating in order to go. I know it all seems fleshly but God works in mysterious ways. I was compelled to sign off as boanerges. I told Cornellius in advance, whether he tweaked or not. I asked him to pray for me. He did that and I thank him.

But then I thought I was being hampered by a demon. Turned out it was God. Have you ever been in a place where you have wondered who is at work? It is very scriptural to be in a firey furnace or a lions den or a jailhouse and think the devil put you there. Even if he did, God has the key. I do not know if I am at the end of this matter, or another beginning. But I have rounded a corner I shall never have to round again. I have seen the Lord move on my behalf and stir mightily in proportion to my need. I have been blessed with fellow sojourners like you, MBATON, and that is a great blessing. I can say with full assurance that your day is coming...a day of great faith and of great testing of that faith. I am allowed to be at your side in the spirit of prayer for the adventure you face is one of solidarity in the Spirit of God to be appraised of victory through every trial.

You asked, Welcome back Larry. What does Mazinaw mean?



Well the cradle of my youth is in that name. It is the name of a lake in Ontario where I grew up as a boy. I spent many happy times frolicking at the shoreline of that lake. I have been blessed with this name of peace which emanates from the suggestion of the meaning of Mazinaw from the Algonquin Indian language. "Shining waters." It reminds me that we are able to drink from the pools of our desire to serve God. It is stated in the word that Psa 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

There is a rock there which is an escarpment from an ancient earthquake where the one side lifted and the other side fell. It formed a cliff precipice into this deepest of Ontario lakes. The cliff is known as "Bon Echo Rock." That would be "good echo" in French. I have been learning lately what it is like to be an echo of God's word, reflecting back to Him and to otrhers what was originally shouted from the portals of heaven. Blessed be His name today and every day...

With you in trials, and in triumphs...

Maz

Larry, glad you're back! And glad we got to chat yesterday. Hope you're feeling a big weight off your shoulders today. I will keep praying for you!

God bless always!

AMEN !!!


MBATOMON

Have you ever carried a side of beef around?

Today it is only a hip...

Thanks for your friendship. I am so pleased to be in your vocabulary of aquaintences...

Your past performance has no bearing on your future vitality. I am leading you along a righteous path. I am undergirding your infirmities to perfect your way. I will uphold you as you devote to My word. Your intercessions and evangelizing are your reasonable service for which you will do well to be in agreement. Feed My sheep and show them the door to the sheepfold. I gave My life for them and My love is declared in fullness. I convict your soul with assurance, my man of strength, that you may be girded about with truth and realize the freedom and power which comes through a faith made perfect in love. My smouldering presence within you shall burst into a flame as you press in toward the goals I have placed in your heart. Do not turn aside from the way set before you. Do not allow deceivers to steer you off course. My hand is always extended towards you. Extend therefore your hand to be My hand and your voice to be My voice. Go into the broadways and the chief concourses of the marketplaces and deliver the message to whomsoever will.

God is good

God has told me "It is not what's behind you that matters." His mercies are renewed every morning.

All the tme.


I sure hope MY past preformances can be overcome....

It is called growth, dear one. And we all do it daily. NOT to is death.

God I pray diligently that you allow trials and harships to come to MY path so that I can be made strong, to stand firm and know what I believe in should not be shaken, until it can not be.

leia

PS We are supposed to get a bad storm later. I would appreciate your prays this evening. The wind is kicking up and that feeling of "We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto..." is creeping in on the area....

If my house get blown away (there is a large tornadoe sighted coming this way I heard...) can I stay with one of you guys?

You have my prayer in the spirit of intersessions and anyone knows your house shall stand and not fall.

A testament to Larry. I will admit that when I first started at this forum, whosever’s way of communicating seemed very different. But I never once read or felt anything wrong with his spirit or message. So I figured how blessed I would be getting to know such rich and variant personalities all praising God. THEN Larry PM'd me, with words of encouragement. In his wonderful way of communicating, he passed a message of encouragement from God that was very relevant to me, and very specific to me, yet Larry didn't even know how precise his words were. God will use us to be his messenger. Thank you Larry for listening and being Gods voice.

God Bless,
Kansas Dad

I agree there is a whole lot of unchrist like communication going on. If I was new to this forum I'd exit real quick! But I know there are some very wise, mature and loving Christians here who know how to speak the truth without looking for a battle. The word says we are to avoid arguments and not quarrel with one another. But to speak the truth in love. Best thing to do is not even respond to such baby like behavior, and to pray for the fruit of the spirit to not only change hearts but to help us to speak in a loving, kind and gentle way. We are brothers and sisters in Christ, not the enemy. If we can't love each other and treat each other with respect, then we are not christians but of the world. A house divided will fall!

Jesus is Lord!
Stormdreamer

Gosh, Leia, you are so poetic with words. I wish I could come across as well as you. I'm thinking of writing a book but what is stopping me is I have the Idea but I'm not so good with words...I'm praying god will send someone to help me Edit it.