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Boanerges
What is that? Have you ever been in a church which leaves off something? If so, do the ones who are "less than full" gospel advertise it? Is there a surcharge to be exacted for the full meal deal? Like buying unleaded gas...you pay more than for leaded?
Leia
The name, to me, is like hearing "Spirit Filled" church. I mean, that is actually on the sign out front.

Like the sould in the church down the street doesn't have the Spirit dwelling within their people? Like the preacher only teaches out of part of the gospel? I don't understand at all. What does Full Gospel mean? Are they saying they use all the scriptures and others don't, or that they have the truth and others don't? I really haven't formed an opinion on what it means, because I can't believe that is what a Christian would actually mean on a church sign for all the world to see. So...

what does that mean?
Tzeitel
Ive never found the "perfect church" and dont think there is one on earth until Jesus returns. What one church has, another lacks etc. Some churches are blessed like crazy, see signs, wonders, healings and growth while others stay where they are, dont move on or grow. I think a church reflects whats going on inside.

A few years ago I left a church because the Pastor wouldnt let the Holy Spirit take over meetings. His congregation was thirsty for the Living Water but couldnt get the full blessing of it. Eventually half the congregation left.
Miki
biggrin.gif tongue.gif It means they talk in tongues and you don't smile.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

I wonder if they know the world is laughing at them????
Boanerges
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 06:10 AM)
biggrin.gif  tongue.gif It means they talk in tongues and you don't smile.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif

I wonder if they know the world is laughing at them????
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I suppose this is key, but seems simplistic.. smile.gif

I know from my own experience that tongues is a blessed thing but it is not be all and end all. Any squirrels in a full gospel church?

http://susie1114.com/MississippiSquirrelRevival.html
kim48
If we were waiting for the church to get prefect than we wouldn't be able to attend!
Kim
AppyGroove
Ray Stevens.... one of my first memories.... thanks for the trip down memory lane...


I've always wondered what defines a church as a "bible teaching church"
Leia
Yes there are somtimes squirrels but as Daddy used to say, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again".

Good thing too.....

I remember when my Nanny took me to her church (Penticostal, where I was eventually led to the altar). It always had a time of silence built into the program (some program, some freedom of movement) and those who felt led would sometimes speak in toungues. I thought, "Oh, please God, I want to follow you but please I don't want to do that" It sounded like total out of control to me. I guess, now I see it as out of control in a good way. Then they would wait. And wait. And wait. And sometimes wait more. And they would wait until SOMEONE said interpreted the message. They did not believe the Spirit would end a message in His own language without allowing the congregation to know what it ment and if they had to wait on Him they would wait all night.

Then, one day, my Nanny, who I had always THOUGHT was very sane, stood right beside me after songs and started speaking words that never came out of my Nanny's mouth before and she was so overcome and that little old woman was NEVER overcome. I knew it had to be real, 'cause I know Nanny and she could have NEVER done that on purpose. The intrepretation....I waited with such anticipation...what had that precious soul that raised me as a child when my mother did not want me, say?

"Just a little while, my children. Just a little while longer and I will come." Simple message over and over.

I treasure that more than signs and wonders in weather.

leia
Miki
I'm not against tongues...Have done a little speaking myself...(with interpretation)

What l'm against is people who think you aren't born again if you aren't speaking in tongues...Ridiculous wacko.gif

Because of course if you follow scripture and logic that would mean you aren't saved at all...and therefore make scripture a liar and tongues a god.

ie asking for bread but getting a scorpion
Miki
And the sad part is, that a lot fake it... blush.gif sad.gif unsure.gif

You know...like falling in the spirit. Some just don't want embarrass the pastor so they fall down....Oh boy......... ph34r.gif
Boanerges
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 09:52 AM)
I'm not against tongues...Have done a little speaking myself...(with interpretation)

What l'm against is people who think you aren't born again if you aren't speaking in tongues...Ridiculous    wacko.gif

Because of course if you follow scripture and logic that would mean you aren't saved at all...and therefore make scripture a liar and tongues a god.

ie asking for bread but getting a scorpion
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In reply to bold type above...agreed wholly...Pentecostals do a great disservice in laying a thing on people...the bible even says 1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? (Implying the answer "no!")

My wife is a born again and has no tongues...she is better than me in many ways as respecting maturity...

Blessings...
Miki
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 04:52 PM)
I'm not against tongues...Have done a little speaking myself...(with interpretation)

What l'm against is people who think you aren't born again if you aren't speaking in tongues...Ridiculous  wacko.gif

Because of course if you follow scripture and logic that would mean you aren't saved at all...and therefore make scripture a liar and tongues a god.

ie asking for bread but getting a scorpion
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Miki
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 04:57 PM)
And the sad part is, that a lot fake it... blush.gif  sad.gif  unsure.gif

You know...like falling in the spirit.  Some just don't want embarrass the pastor so they fall down....Oh boy......... ph34r.gif
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Boanerges
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 10:01 AM)
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 04:57 PM)
And the sad part is, that a lot fake it... blush.gif  sad.gif  unsure.gif

You know...like falling in the spirit.  Some just don't want embarrass the pastor so they fall down....Oh boy......... ph34r.gif
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Get the CD!!

Courtesy drops lend a hand to the phoney works... excl.gif
kim48
QUOTE(Boanerges @ Nov 21 2005, 11:58 AM)
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 09:52 AM)
I'm not against tongues...Have done a little speaking myself...(with interpretation)

What l'm against is people who think you aren't born again if you aren't speaking in tongues...Ridiculous    wacko.gif

Because of course if you follow scripture and logic that would mean you aren't saved at all...and therefore make scripture a liar and tongues a god.

ie asking for bread but getting a scorpion
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In reply to bold type above...agreed wholly...Pentecostals do a great disservice in laying a thing on people...the bible even says 1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? (Implying the answer "no!")

My wife is a born again and has no tongues...she is better than me in many ways as respecting maturity...

Blessings...
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YOu can be saved with out speaking in tongues. I belive the moment we are saved we will recieve gifts. We may not know it till we grow in Christ but we get them. I belive we can and will recieve gifts if we want them. We will not all recieve the same gift. This is like we do not have two right arms or two left legs or two heads. God will use each gift to make one body. The is why I think we have different demominations also. Each demonination is a body in its self. This is how we make a body of Chirst in each church and yet all the churches make a body.

There are disservice in all churches and home churches and in all walks of life. The reason being we are not prefect and if we are waiting for the prefect church than we could neve attend.

I hope I made sense.
Kim
Gr8ful
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QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 12:52 PM)
I'm not against tongues...Have done a little speaking myself...(with interpretation)

What l'm against is people who think you aren't born again if you aren't speaking in tongues...Ridiculous  wacko.gif

Because of course if you follow scripture and logic that would mean you aren't saved at all...and therefore make scripture a liar and tongues a god.

ie asking for bread but getting a scorpion
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Well, I go to A Pentecostal Full Gospel Church. Here is what we believe http://www.kenteniafullgospelchurch.org/webelieve.html (It's Just a regular Pentecostal church or at least ours is) Full Gospel just means we believe in what Jesus said we can do, call on the elders to Lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, Talking in the Holy Ghost in Worship or Out loud Only if there is an interpreter, Baptize in Water, Foot washing and Communion....And YOU CAN go to heaven without speaking in the Holy Ghost. Speaking in tongues is a Gift of the Spirit and it's for everyone but some may not want that gift...But we believe you need to Have the Holy Ghost in order to receive any of the other gifts such as The Gift of Prophecy, Because they work off the gift of the Holy Ghost. The Gift of Healing ect.. We believe it as it says in Acts 2,4 ....I'm not sure what Other Pentecostal/ Full Gospel churches believe we are independent and it's just Like the Church of God/Pentecostal....AS for someone who would argue to Me your not suppose to lay hands and pray for a Healing..I just have 7 words to say to you SORRY YOU GOT TO ME TO LATE!! I have seen God do wonderful healings and People being set instantly free from Drugs and alcohol...God IS Still Alive and Well!! Whether you speak in Tongues or Not! smile.gif
Boanerges
QUOTE(Gr8ful @ Nov 21 2005, 10:31 AM)
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QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 12:52 PM)
I'm not against tongues...Have done a little speaking myself...(with interpretation)

What l'm against is people who think you aren't born again if you aren't speaking in tongues...Ridiculous  wacko.gif

Because of course if you follow scripture and logic that would mean you aren't saved at all...and therefore make scripture a liar and tongues a god.

ie asking for bread but getting a scorpion
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Well, I go to A Pentecostal Full Gospel Church. Here is what we believe http://www.kenteniafullgospelchurch.org/webelieve.html (It's Just a regular Pentecostal church or at least ours is) Full Gospel just means we believe in what Jesus said we can do, call on the elders to Lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, Talking in the Holy Ghost in Worship or Out loud Only if there is an interpreter, Baptize in Water, Foot washing and Communion....And YOU CAN go to heaven without speaking in the Holy Ghost. Speaking in tongues is a Gift of the Spirit and it's for everyone but some may not want that gift...But we believe you need to Have the Holy Ghost in order to receive any of the other gifts such as The Gift of Prophecy, Because they work off the gift of the Holy Ghost. The Gift of Healing ect.. We believe it as it says in Acts 2,4 ....I'm not sure what Other Pentecostal/ Full Gospel churches believe we are independent and it's just Like the Church of God/Pentecostal....AS for someone who would argue to Me your not suppose to lay hands and pray for a Healing..I just have 7 words to say to you SORRY YOU GOT TO ME TO LATE!! I have seen God do wonderful healings and People being set instantly free from Drugs and alcohol...God IS Still Alive and Well!! Whether you speak in Tongues or Not! smile.gif
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Well said! What I have been waiting to hear! smile.gif
Gr8ful
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 21 2005, 09:10 AM)
biggrin.gif  tongue.gif It means they talk in tongues and you don't smile.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif

I wonder if they know the world is laughing at them????
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Let them laugh on!! I for one am Glad I have the Gift of Tongues, Our church is Not a dead one it's full of spirit, truth and life wink.gif
Gr8ful
QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 21 2005, 11:27 AM)
Yes there are somtimes squirrels but as Daddy used to say, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again".

Good thing too.....

I remember when my Nanny took me to her church (Penticostal, where I was eventually led to the altar).  It always had a time of silence built into the program (some program, some freedom of movement) and those who felt led would sometimes speak in tongues.  I thought, "Oh, please God, I want to follow you but please I don't want to do that"  It sounded like total out of control to me.  I guess, now I see it as out of control in a good way.  Then they would wait.  And wait.  And wait.  And sometimes wait more.  And they would wait until SOMEONE said interpreted the message.  They did not believe the Spirit would end a message in His own language without allowing the congregation to know what it ment and if they had to wait on Him they would wait all night.

Then, one day, my Nanny, who I had always THOUGHT was very sane, stood right beside me after songs and started speaking words that never came out of my Nanny's mouth before and she was so overcome and that little old woman was NEVER overcome.  I knew it had to be real, 'cause I know Nanny and she could have NEVER done that on purpose.  The intrepretation....I waited with such anticipation...what had that precious soul that raised me as a child when my mother did not want me, say?

"Just a little while, my children.  Just a little while longer and I will come."  Simple message over and over.

I treasure that more than signs and wonders in weather.

leia
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What a wonderful memory..I have many like that myself...I even remember one little granny was standing up in church during the singing, she got soooo happy she started dancing and shouting all over the front, Funny thing was her Foot wrapped around my granny's purse and that lady was dancing all over with granny's purse on her foot, Granny took off after her purse but Evey time she bent down to pick it up the other granny took off dancing again..LOL Church stories are so funny Lets start a topic of out Favorite/true/funny church memories. My best memories happend in the Chruch...LOL
Leia
Gr8ful, thank you... biggrin.gif than was laugh out loud funny.

Oh, Lord, still is....

leia
kim48
QUOTE(Gr8ful @ Nov 21 2005, 12:56 PM)
QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 21 2005, 11:27 AM)
Yes there are somtimes squirrels but as Daddy used to say, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again".

Good thing too.....

I remember when my Nanny took me to her church (Penticostal, where I was eventually led to the altar).  It always had a time of silence built into the program (some program, some freedom of movement) and those who felt led would sometimes speak in tongues.  I thought, "Oh, please God, I want to follow you but please I don't want to do that"  It sounded like total out of control to me.  I guess, now I see it as out of control in a good way.  Then they would wait.  And wait.  And wait.  And sometimes wait more.  And they would wait until SOMEONE said interpreted the message.  They did not believe the Spirit would end a message in His own language without allowing the congregation to know what it ment and if they had to wait on Him they would wait all night.

Then, one day, my Nanny, who I had always THOUGHT was very sane, stood right beside me after songs and started speaking words that never came out of my Nanny's mouth before and she was so overcome and that little old woman was NEVER overcome.  I knew it had to be real, 'cause I know Nanny and she could have NEVER done that on purpose.  The intrepretation....I waited with such anticipation...what had that precious soul that raised me as a child when my mother did not want me, say?

"Just a little while, my children.  Just a little while longer and I will come."  Simple message over and over.

I treasure that more than signs and wonders in weather.

leia
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What a wonderful memory..I have many like that myself...I even remember one little granny was standing up in church during the singing, she got soooo happy she started dancing and shouting all over the front, Funny thing was her Foot wrapped around my granny's purse and that lady was dancing all over with granny's purse on her foot, Granny took off after her purse but Evey time she bent down to pick it up the other granny took off dancing again..LOL Church stories are so funny Lets start a topic of out Favorite/true/funny church memories. My best memories happend in the Chruch...LOL
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What a great memory to share Gr8ful.
I will go and start a topic on wonerful memorys in our fellowship.
Kim
Kansasdad
My experience with speaking in tongs was not very good. During my younger years we had a small youth group and we went to listen to a speaker and music. During the program the speaker prayed over the audience and instructed everyone to speak in tongs. He instructed us to just start making noises, and gibberish words. So we all start making words. I and the people around me were just making noise and we all knew it. The speaker stated that we were talking in a spirit language and that we were speaking in tongs. We all left thinking that it was just weird.
I would love to hear the real thing, but I find myself very very skeptical. Leia, your experience sounds very powerful.

God Bless,
Kansas Dad
choirgirl
I too am Pentecostal and have many funny memories of many a sweet Grandma shakin' her hair pins out as she danced in the Spirit. In addition, I agree that those who falsely claim that only us "Tongue Talkers" will be in Heaven are misguided. My dad is Baptist and does not believe in speaking in tongues or what he calls emotionalism. Yet, my father is a beautiful example of a servant's heart. So...I believe praying/speaking in tongues is a gift available to all who seek it, but in no way a measure of salvation or holiness. Would like to offer a beautiful, treasured blessing/memory of dancing in the Spirit. As I posted recently, my husband passed away over the summer. One of my deepest desires was to dance one more time with him. I never mentioned it to anyone, but one Sunday during worship, our choir director began singing a worship chorus we had sung at my husband's service. As I began to worship, attempting unsuccessfully to sing, I began to pray and weep in the Spirit. I closed my eyes as I do often to block everything out, but the Lord. Before I realized it, I had begun to dance, and could see and then feel myself dance with my husband. The gift of dancing with the two loves of my life, my Savior and my sweetheart is more precious than words could say. It has been the Holy Spirit over and over giving me His words in the dark times that I had no more words to say.
Gr8ful
QUOTE(Kansasdad @ Nov 21 2005, 05:19 PM)
My experience with speaking in tongs was not very good.  During my younger years we had a small youth group and we went to listen to a speaker and music.  During the program the speaker prayed over the audience and instructed everyone to speak in tongs.  He instructed us to just start making noises, and gibberish words.  So we all start making words.  I and the people around me were just making noise and we all knew it.  The speaker stated that we were talking in a spirit language and that we were speaking in tongs.  We all left thinking that it was just weird.
I would love to hear the real thing, but I find myself very very skeptical.  Leia, your experience sounds very powerful.

God Bless,
Kansas Dad
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I know what you mean..I have heard that before as well..Thank god Not in our church...We teach to be careful of churches doing that..You can't teach someone how to speak in tongues..Some preachers I have heard are bad for that...We have to be careful nowadays.
Gr8ful
QUOTE(choirgirl @ Nov 21 2005, 07:04 PM)
I too am Pentecostal and have many funny memories of many a sweet Grandma shakin' her hair pins out as she danced in the Spirit.  In addition, I agree that those who falsely claim that only us "Tongue Talkers" will be in Heaven are misguided.  My dad is Baptist and does not believe in speaking in tongues or what he calls emotionalism.  Yet, my father is a beautiful example of a servant's heart.  So...I believe praying/speaking in tongues is a gift available to all who seek it, but in no way a measure of salvation or holiness.  Would like to offer a beautiful, treasured blessing/memory of dancing in the Spirit.  As I posted recently, my husband passed away over the summer.  One of my deepest desires was to dance one more time with him.  I never mentioned it to anyone, but one Sunday during worship, our choir director began singing a worship chorus we had sung at my husband's service.  As I began to worship, attempting unsuccessfully to sing, I began to pray and weep in the Spirit.  I closed my eyes as I do often to block everything out, but the Lord.  Before I realized it, I had begun to dance, and could see and then feel myself dance with my husband.  The gift of dancing with the two loves of my life, my Savior and my sweetheart is more precious than words could say.  It has been the Holy Spirit over and over giving me His words in the dark times that I had no more words to say.
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How Wonderful!! God knows what we need when we need it.
Boanerges
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I know what you mean..I have heard that before as well..Thank god Not in our church...We teach to be careful of churches doing that..You can't teach someone how to speak in tongues..Some preachers I have heard are bad for that...We have to be careful nowadays.
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Amen and truth... smile.gif
Leia
All I know is that it scares me to death, the thought of having it placed upon me. The speech without control...I was taught the purist Penticostal way as a child: if you don't speak in tongue you aren't saved. Kind of a right of passage. They believed that the Holy Spirit had things to say and if He was in you then you would say them too. If you didn't, then He wasn't there and you really wern't saved.

I said OK and proceeded to worry myself about it. I don't worry whether I am "really saved" if I haven't spoken in tongues anymore, but it am still scared every time I go to a charismatic church that that will be the day something will grab hold of me and I will be out of control.

Maybe I should be, I don't know. But I would just rather leave it to the more secure in themselves.

I have often wanted to be bold enough to ask and so maybe this type of communication is a good time. What is it like? Do you feel? Do you know? Does it overcome you? Are you still there? Is it a "with" thing or a someone else thing?

I am so embarrassed, but it would be so good to ask now.
Boanerges
QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 21 2005, 06:26 PM)
All I know is that it scares me to death, the thought of having it placed upon me.  The speech without control...I was taught the purist Penticostal way as a child: if you don't speak in tongue you aren't saved.  Kind of a right of passage.  They believed that the Holy Spirit had things to say and if He was in you then you would say them too.  If you didn't, then He wasn't there and you really wern't saved.

I said OK and proceeded to worry myself about it.  I don't worry whether I am  "really saved" if I haven't spoken in tongues anymore, but it am still scared every time I go to a charismatic church that that will be the day something will grab hold of me and I will be out of control.

Maybe I should be, I don't know.  But I would just rather leave it to the more secure in themselves. 

I have often wanted to be bold enough to ask and so maybe this type of communication is a good time.  What is it like?  Do you feel?  Do you know?  Does it overcome you?  Are you still there?  Is it a "with" thing or a someone else thing?

I am so embarrassed, but it would be so good to ask now.
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"The speech without control"

It is not without control...you can speak or remain silent... smile.gif It is up to you...but mostly there is no harm in speaking mysteries unto God...they are His mysteries afterall...1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

I don't see the big deal here (humanly speaking of fear and all that) My spirit is purring like a kitten in the Spirit of God even as I write this... biggrin.gif

Bottom line is unless you want it you don't need to worry about it...God will not force anything on you and Leia I know you know that... smile.gif excl.gif
Gr8ful
Someone asked me what it felt like when I received the Gift of The Holy Ghost..I really didn't know how to explain it, all I could tell them was it was like, "Having God So near that I could feel him Breath on me". It was wonderful and I get that feeling each time the Holy Ghost moves on me. When you have tasted that Living Water then anything less will never satisfy you. I really think God wants Us to Crave him and the more we have of him the more we want. He is our First love...When you get desperate for his presence he will show up. He never forces his self and He will not give you more than you can handle.... :-)
Leia
Thanks. I feel silly. Perhaps when I am ready. I have to confess that being that close so as "feel His breath on you" sounds wonderful. It reminds me of the movie The Ten Commandments when the two women in Moses' life meet and one says, "You lost him when he went in search of his God, and I lost him when he found him."

Everything after that was God. What a pleasant place to live in.

We shall see what we shall see.
choirgirl
QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 21 2005, 11:06 PM)
Thanks.  I feel silly.   Perhaps when I am ready.  I have to confess that being that close so as "feel His breath on you"  sounds wonderful.  It reminds me of the movie The Ten Commandments when the two women in Moses' life meet and one says, "You lost him when he went in search of his God, and I lost him when he found him."

Everything after that was God.  What a pleasant place to live in.

We shall see what we shall see.
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Leia,

Before I comment, let me first say what a sweet spirit you have shown throughout your postings. Thank you for that.
As for praying in tongues...For me, it feels different at different times. Similarly to when we speak with different tones and emotion. When the Holy Spirit is interceding for someone through me or I'm praying for my own needs, I often feel the heaviness of their burden or a feeling that I cannot cry hard enough to release all of God's power inside me. In intercession for my husband, my prayers have felt like I was doing battle and taking things back by force. Other times, when He's speaking through me in times of Worship, there is the feeling of the purest Joy I'll ever know. I believe it's unique for each person based upon their anointing and relationship with God, and not everyone sounds the same.
It's such a comfort to know that those times when I am praying in the Spirit, that it's a completely private and personal conversation with the Lord. No one knows the utterings of my heart during those intimate talks with Him. I feel that those times are when God can see into the deepest parts of my heart, and I can release all of my love for Him and the burdens I carry. And honestly, it just feels so awesome to feel that full of his love.
If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God...
Boanerges
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QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 21 2005, 11:06 PM)
Thanks.  I feel silly.   Perhaps when I am ready.  I have to confess that being that close so as "feel His breath on you"  sounds wonderful.  It reminds me of the movie The Ten Commandments when the two women in Moses' life meet and one says, "You lost him when he went in search of his God, and I lost him when he found him."

Everything after that was God.  What a pleasant place to live in.

We shall see what we shall see.
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Leia,

Before I comment, let me first say what a sweet spirit you have shown throughout your postings. Thank you for that.
As for praying in tongues...For me, it feels different at different times. Similarly to when we speak with different tones and emotion. When the Holy Spirit is interceding for someone through me or I'm praying for my own needs, I often feel the heaviness of their burden or a feeling that I cannot cry hard enough to release all of God's power inside me. In intercession for my husband, my prayers have felt like I was doing battle and taking things back by force. Other times, when He's speaking through me in times of Worship, there is the feeling of the purest Joy I'll ever know. I believe it's unique for each person based upon their anointing and relationship with God, and not everyone sounds the same.
It's such a comfort to know that those times when I am praying in the Spirit, that it's a completely private and personal conversation with the Lord. No one knows the utterings of my heart during those intimate talks with Him. I feel that those times are when God can see into the deepest parts of my heart, and I can release all of my love for Him and the burdens I carry. And honestly, it just feels so awesome to feel that full of his love.
If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God...
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All of the above for me and also I often just start laughing and like in my spirit I hear, "Take that devil! You lose!!"

"If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God..."

I am a driver by trade and I can tell you this is very true... biggrin.gif I have driven at 55 mph down a road in the fog and the Lord has steered my truck with perfection while I have a Holy Ghost meltdown.....
choirgirl
QUOTE(Boanerges @ Nov 22 2005, 12:42 AM)
QUOTE(choirgirl @ Nov 21 2005, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 21 2005, 11:06 PM)
Thanks.  I feel silly.   Perhaps when I am ready.  I have to confess that being that close so as "feel His breath on you"  sounds wonderful.  It reminds me of the movie The Ten Commandments when the two women in Moses' life meet and one says, "You lost him when he went in search of his God, and I lost him when he found him."

Everything after that was God.  What a pleasant place to live in.

We shall see what we shall see.
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Leia,

Before I comment, let me first say what a sweet spirit you have shown throughout your postings. Thank you for that.
As for praying in tongues...For me, it feels different at different times. Similarly to when we speak with different tones and emotion. When the Holy Spirit is interceding for someone through me or I'm praying for my own needs, I often feel the heaviness of their burden or a feeling that I cannot cry hard enough to release all of God's power inside me. In intercession for my husband, my prayers have felt like I was doing battle and taking things back by force. Other times, when He's speaking through me in times of Worship, there is the feeling of the purest Joy I'll ever know. I believe it's unique for each person based upon their anointing and relationship with God, and not everyone sounds the same.
It's such a comfort to know that those times when I am praying in the Spirit, that it's a completely private and personal conversation with the Lord. No one knows the utterings of my heart during those intimate talks with Him. I feel that those times are when God can see into the deepest parts of my heart, and I can release all of my love for Him and the burdens I carry. And honestly, it just feels so awesome to feel that full of his love.
If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God...
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All of the above for me and also I often just start laughing and like in my spirit I hear, "Take that devil! You lose!!"

"If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God..."

I am a driver by trade and I can tell you this is very true... biggrin.gif I have driven at 55 mph down a road in the fog and the Lord has steered my truck with perfection while I have a Holy Ghost meltdown.....
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Have thought for a while...since the name change..that "Bo knows" also fits! Seems to me that The Spirit loves to drive our cars/trucks...Get blessed tons in my ride as I listen to K-Love, Cd's or our local Christian station...God is good all the time...All the time God is good!
Leia
QUOTE(choirgirl @ Nov 21 2005, 10:59 PM)
"If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God..."

I am a driver by trade and I can tell you this is very true... biggrin.gif I have driven at 55 mph down a road in the fog and the Lord has steered my truck with perfection while I have a Holy Ghost meltdown.....


Seems to me that The Spirit loves to drive our cars/trucks...Get blessed tons in my ride as I listen to K-Love, Cd's or our local Christian station...God is good all the time...All the time God is good!

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Oh Lord I would never say this to anyone but you guys...

OK, never talked in tongues but you guys are decreasing the fear. But that is not the thing.

One day....and for about a week some pretty "never happend before things' He told me about woul dhappen citywide and did....a very mindblowing week, I could write an entire BOOK over...I was driving. I have never told anyone about one dream and probably won't but it included these two huge black dogs flanking that grew up into these two huge men that were sent to kill me. Anyway, I was driving in Bakersfield, California and this voice tells me, "Close your eyes". I figure, there has been so many things happeing that I will, I can always open them when I feel scared. So I close them.

Half of you aren't going to believe this, I know. But I did peep once in the beginning and then I drove all around some housed streets just listening to a real quiet voice..."turn left here, pull to the right now..." and when I opened my eyes I didn't know where I was but I was driving fine. About 35 miles per hour. Maybe 30 to 35. And I laughed, oh Lord I laughed. And then he said "look" and there was a house with a chain link fence around it and a gate by the sidewalk and a huge black dog stood parellel to the fence with its head up like a statue by the open gate. I thought it was a statue at first until I drove almost past it. I had had the dream in weeks and it all became ver physically real, like a dream walking out into reality. And a horrid thought hit me..there wer two dogs. and he said "look over there" and I looked to my right and there was an IDENTICAL black dog crossing the street and heading straight to the gate. Idid not see if it stood with the other. The other still had not moved an inch. Just stood there like those cement things you put out front by driveways, lions and such.

I kept driving straight then turned and turned to get all crossways of that house. I was quite lost and then just went straight until I found a freeway outside of town and picked a direction. I did not even have the sense to ask. I just drove anywhere away. Just away.

Anyway, He drove my car through subdivisions and I thought that was cool later. And I just wondered...maybe He woul dlike to drive our cars sometimes.

I am glad you said that.

leia
Boanerges
QUOTE(Leia @ Nov 22 2005, 09:32 AM)
QUOTE(choirgirl @ Nov 21 2005, 10:59 PM)

"If we can trust anyone to take us out of the driver's seat while the car is still moving it's God..."

I am a driver by trade and I can tell you this is very true... biggrin.gif I have driven at 55 mph down a road in the fog and the Lord has steered my truck with perfection while I have a Holy Ghost meltdown.....


Seems to me that The Spirit loves to drive our cars/trucks...Get blessed tons in my ride as I listen to K-Love, Cd's or our local Christian station...God is good all the time...All the time God is good!

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Oh Lord I would never say this to anyone but you guys...

OK, never talked in tongues but you guys are decreasing the fear. But that is not the thing.

One day....and for about a week some pretty "never happend before things' He told me about woul dhappen citywide and did....a very mindblowing week, I could write an entire BOOK over...I was driving. I have never told anyone about one dream and probably won't but it included these two huge black dogs flanking that grew up into these two huge men that were sent to kill me. Anyway, I was driving in Bakersfield, California and this voice tells me, "Close your eyes". I figure, there has been so many things happeing that I will, I can always open them when I feel scared. So I close them.

Half of you aren't going to believe this, I know. But I did peep once in the beginning and then I drove all around some housed streets just listening to a real quiet voice..."turn left here, pull to the right now..." and when I opened my eyes I didn't know where I was but I was driving fine. About 35 miles per hour. Maybe 30 to 35. And I laughed, oh Lord I laughed. And then he said "look" and there was a house with a chain link fence around it and a gate by the sidewalk and a huge black dog stood parellel to the fence with its head up like a statue by the open gate. I thought it was a statue at first until I drove almost past it. I had had the dream in weeks and it all became ver physically real, like a dream walking out into reality. And a horrid thought hit me..there wer two dogs. and he said "look over there" and I looked to my right and there was an IDENTICAL black dog crossing the street and heading straight to the gate. Idid not see if it stood with the other. The other still had not moved an inch. Just stood there like those cement things you put out front by driveways, lions and such.

I kept driving straight then turned and turned to get all crossways of that house. I was quite lost and then just went straight until I found a freeway outside of town and picked a direction. I did not even have the sense to ask. I just drove anywhere away. Just away.

Anyway, He drove my car through subdivisions and I thought that was cool later. And I just wondered...maybe He woul dlike to drive our cars sometimes.

I am glad you said that.

leia
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I thought I was the only one...the day the Lord told me about my wife (to be) I was in a truck cresting a mountain and about to go down the otherside. The Spirit decended upon me and I was shown her face directly in front of me outside the windshield. A voice spoke and said, "Sent by God!!" two times. Then the love of God was manifested so powerfully I wept like a baby in that presence...

I was driving a 100,000 pound, , 22 wheel truck on a fourlane road in winter with two fingers on the wheel for two hours and the Lord ministered to me and drove my truck the whole time...
lovingHIM
Alright, way cool stories of total trust Leia and Larry! cool.gif

I have a story while driving but it was abit different than yours. I was going across town to my friends house. This was not long after I was saved, maybe within the first 6 months or so. I was at an intersection where I could either turn left or straight to get to her home. I started to drive straight (the route I usually took to her house) something said 'turn left', I thought to myself, why should I, this way has no stop lights. I was kinda in a hurry, a few minutes late, I hate being late. Well, after I got down the end of the street and turned left there were nothing but road construction for the next mile of the road. I was just sitting there watching trucks and bulldozers and people block the road. I thought to myself, I should have turned left instead of going strait back at that intersection. And all at once the same voice within me that told me to turn left, the one I didn't listen to and went strait said 'see you don't listen when I talk to you.' I hadn't realized how many times that soft voice had spoken to me, I always thought it was just me, my mind, my thoughts. But they were not. The Lord showed me the difference between His sweet soft voice and my own. I learned to listen after that smile.gif
Boanerges
QUOTE(lovingHIM @ Nov 22 2005, 11:52 AM)
Alright, way cool stories of total trust Leia and Larry!  cool.gif

I have a story while driving but it was abit different than yours.  I was going across town to my friends house.  This was not long after I was saved, maybe within the first 6 months or so.  I was at an intersection where I could either turn left or straight to get to her home.  I started to drive straight (the route I usually took to her house) something said 'turn left', I thought to myself, why should I, this way has no stop lights.  I was kinda in a hurry, a few minutes late, I hate being late.  Well, after I got down the end of the street and turned left there were nothing but road construction for the next mile of the road.  I was just sitting there watching trucks and bulldozers and people block the road.  I thought to myself, I should have turned left instead of going strait back at that intersection.  And all at once the same voice within me that told me to turn left, the one I didn't listen to and went strait said 'see you don't listen when I talk to you.'  I hadn't realized how many times that soft voice had spoken to me, I always thought it was just me, my mind, my thoughts.  But they were not.   The Lord showed me the difference between His sweet soft voice and my own.  I learned to lesten after that  smile.gif
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You know our hearts and minds are so engrossed in our own condition that we often miss those little promptings. I have had many times where I realised after the fact that urge or nudge to do or not to do, to go or not to go, has remained ignored and has cost me something... blush.gif

Once a year or so ago I was backing up a truck in the dark concourse at my employers. The lights were out and there was a backlight from an open door at the far end, like looking to the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. I felt a hesitancy inside, and almost missed it. There was a strange urge just to stop. So I did. I got out to look, and there was a van parked there in the dark with the lights out. I would have backed into it doing considerable damage. But I stiopped! I was only, really! 1 inch from the van...
Meshuganah
Hi all, we were talking about speaking in tongues a little earlier in this post and I want to tell you how I started........I was praying whilst still very young as a christian.....not so much praying, but talking to Jesus. I was in awe at having realised what He had gone through for us/me and I guess I just ran out of words....G-d gave me special words that we cannot express in our language that pretty well allowed me to express what I felt. G-d knew my heart already, but he understood that I had to say it. It was like a hot line straight to Him and the words may have seemed silly but Boy, they meant a lot.

Meshuganah
Marta
QUOTE(Meshuganah @ Nov 22 2005, 07:00 PM)
Hi all, we were talking about speaking in tongues a little earlier in this post and I want to tell you how I started........I was praying whilst still very young as a christian.....not so much praying, but talking to Jesus. I was in awe at having realised what He had gone through for us/me and I guess I just ran out of words....G-d gave me special words that we cannot express in our language that pretty well allowed me to express what I felt. G-d knew my heart already, but he understood that I had to say it. It was like a hot line straight to Him and the words may have seemed silly but Boy, they meant a lot.

Meshuganah
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I pretty much identified with Leia on this thread. I was brought up in a Baptist church and the first time I witnessed speaking in tongues (not me) was in a charasmatic church. Freaked me out! I went again a while back and thought what if that happened to me and how scary. I just wasn't used to it or brought up into that type of church...that's all. I do believe in it but doesn't the Bible say something about having an interpreter...someone enlighten me.

Meshugnah....had a very cool experience.

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I hadn't realized how many times that soft voice had spoken to me, I always thought it was just me, my mind, my thoughts.  But they were not.  The Lord showed me the difference between His sweet soft voice and my own.  I learned to lesten after that 


I have to requote this one from Karen. So true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smile.gif Thank you.
lovingHIM
QUOTE(Marta @ Nov 22 2005, 08:33 PM)
QUOTE(Meshuganah @ Nov 22 2005, 07:00 PM)
Hi all, we were talking about speaking in tongues a little earlier in this post and I want to tell you how I started........I was praying whilst still very young as a christian.....not so much praying, but talking to Jesus. I was in awe at having realised what He had gone through for us/me and I guess I just ran out of words....G-d gave me special words that we cannot express in our language that pretty well allowed me to express what I felt. G-d knew my heart already, but he understood that I had to say it. It was like a hot line straight to Him and the words may have seemed silly but Boy, they meant a lot.

Meshuganah
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I pretty much identified with Leia on this thread. I was brought up in a Baptist church and the first time I witnessed speaking in tongues (not me) was in a charasmatic church. Freaked me out! I went again a while back and thought what if that happened to me and how scary. I just wasn't used to it or brought up into that type of church...that's all. I do believe in it but doesn't the Bible say something about having an interpreter...someone enlighten me.

Meshugnah....had a very cool experience.

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I hadn't realized how many times that soft voice had spoken to me, I always thought it was just me, my mind, my thoughts.  But they were not.  The Lord showed me the difference between His sweet soft voice and my own.  I learned to lesten after that 


I have to requote this one from Karen. So true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smile.gif Thank you.
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You are welcome smile.gif
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