Hello everybody I'm new here and to this forum thingy. First I would like to tell you all that I am 15 yrs old and not very good with my grammar. Anyways I going to share to all of you my most freakiest experience. It begun when I was in my room at night I just finished parcticing my Kung fu exercises normally you get exausted from that right, so it was school tomorrow and I got to get some sleep becuase I gotta wake up at five so I lie in my bed lights out exausted but couldnt sleep so turning around a couple of times trying to fall a sleep. feel a sleep a couple of times getting freaky dreams yet normal ones like about your friends, crush and otherthings. so because of these dreams i kept on waking up it was about 12:00 when i faced the window trying to get back a sleep. closing my eyes i thought of a number 13 then suddenly i couldnt move my body was so heavy but i was awake i manage to open my eyes just a little bit then i saw my room being torn and having scratches on it and i heard a voice that speaks a language that i cannot understand and a number 13 that is dripping in bloods keeps apearing in my head i tried to move but cant so having gathered all the courage and strength im me manage to break out of it. turned on the lights waited for a couple of minutes and then went back to sleep. what does this number 13 mean and all the scratches and the voice this acnt be a dream i was wide awake pls i need all your opinion and by the way im a filipino not a chinese dude.

Hello bogoy

Why are you doing Kung fu ?



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I took Kung Fu...I had similar experiances after practicing the black art.

Now l just talk to the Lord. It's not an art just a conversation. He never rips me from my body like some witch in a white coat.

He's gentle and wants to be my best friend.

Always be careful when you are getting involved in anything that makes you bow to anyone other than Christ Jesus.

Check out this comparison chart that shows the extreme differences between the

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i'm sorry to say this because you guys dont even know the effects of the martial arts instead of being violent you will be disciplined not to fight and the nightmares started even before i was in martial arts

I know what you are talking about...Being awake in bed after just waking up and feeling the heaviness as something was holding you down...I have had to deal with this about 5 times...But I knew exactly what it was. It was a demon spirit. First when that happens..You tell it "In the Name of Jesus" To leave your home not just your room...Also being 15 it is easy to invite them into your home without realizing it. Such as demonic music, demonic movies, anything that would make them feel welcome. It could be any type of unclean spirit,, tormenting, suicide, addictive even a hindering spirit. Most of the time they don't want you to know they are around, So by this holding you down it seems not to care...So expose it for what it is and tell it to leave...I don't mean to scare you...The Bible says, "Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world" So take a stand Over it and tell it to go....Also I have learned When God takes you to New Levels you will have to deal with New devils.......Your sis Benita

To dream that something is written in blood represents the energy you have put into a project.You have invested so much effort into something that you are not willing to let it go.......... The number Thirteen is a paradoxical number which means death and birth, end and beginning, and change and transition. It is symbolic of obstacles that are standing on your way and must overcome. You must work hard and persevere in order to succeed and reach your goals.

thanks for the info now where did you get this?

Your room represents you, the private person inside. The scratches that you see are minor irritations. I believe hearing a voice in a language you don't understand denotes you trying to express yourself about this matter. The number thirteen represents rebellion, rejection and obsticles in your way. The blood dripping from the number thirteen is representative in the amount of time and energy you have put into this matter and you are not willing to give it up.
Quite possibly this could have to do with the Kung Foo that you are learning. Maybe the Lord is speaking to your heart about it not being such a good thing to be part of due to the religious aspects that can open windows to spiritual troubles for you. I believe you are wrestling with some matter right now. Take sometime to pray and seek GODS council on what is correct and trust HIS decision to be the right one for you. HIS will is always, always correct. HE loves you more than you know and only wants to love and protect you.

Trust the Lord your God with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.
Proverbs 3:5-6 NIV

The Lord says, "I will guide you along the best pathway for your life. I will advise you and watch over you."
Psalm 32:8 NLT

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.
James 4:7-8 KJV

siC

To me this sounds like somebody snuck into the exorcism of Emily Rose, and they are just having nightmares or letting their imagination run.


Im not a Demon expert, I don't think that anybody is. But what you described sounds too horror filmish to be from a true demon, but i dunno.

I will tell you what I do when I fear anything. I pray the Our Father. In my opinion its a powerful prayer. Know that you are a child of God... keep your mind and eyes on him and those "demons" won't bother you.

I am young as well im 17! Its good to see that you have sparked an interest in this forum.

I will pray for you .....

Dear Lord,

embrace your precious son bogoy, let him know that your love is almighty. I pray for a sheild of protection around bogoy from any tainted spirit. Lord thank you for bringing him for answers, let him know that he is loved here. Lord give him wisdom and strength, and Lord thank you for this wonderful forum and its people.

In Jesus name i pray

Amen

LiL SHEP

well i didnt even seen emily rose at that time and me having nightmares at that its imposible the last nightmare i had and freaked out was when i was eight i had dreams much more scarier than this its not filmish demons i had experience with this this happened several times when i was thirteen years old well it started when i was 13 and became worse when i was 14 and all the visions came true this year and age and emily rose its a true story

Emily Rose was inspired by a true story, it is not entirely true

then if that is the case the enemy is after you. Be faithful to the Lord.

You said nothing about visions in your initial post. You think that demons are giving you visions... ? i dunno im confused about this whole thing becasue it doesn't really make sense!?

My advice is seek the Lord on this one because all we can do is give you power of prayer. Nobody is at liberty to tell you step by step demolishing demon intructions.

I haven't even asked are you saved by the blood of Christ? prayer is a powerful thing if done correctly, you should try it.

seek scripture I will give you some . But His word is your instruction manuel(sp)


Luk 4:33 And in the synagogue there was a man, that had a spirit of an unclean demon; and he cried out with a loud voice,

Luk 4:34 Ah! what have we to do with thee, Jesus thou Nazarene? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.

Luk 4:35 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the demon had thrown him down in the midst, he came out of him, having done him no hurt.

Luk 4:36 And amazement came upon all, and they spake together, one with another, saying, What is this word? for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.


peace be with you

Lil shep

well all of them are gone now with the help of cornelius here well i myself am confused and i also dont know who is giving me visions and im not planning of posting any of my visions well at least not the previouse ones and the scary ones coz they dont allow it here well anyways thanks for the scripture advice i already know what scripture that banishes demons and other things read psalm 91 and youll get what i mean

AMEN on Psalm 91....Hey for a 15 y/o you are pretty smart I have the whole chapter in my bible highlighted..And also pray it over my family a lot...Your sister Benita.

I am concerned for you right now. If you have ever read anything in the Catholic churches manuscripts regarding possession, demons always start scratching on the walls and usually target children. I would have your entire family read scripture in your room and I would pray. If you have not accepted Christ, please, please consider carefully your eternity. I thought I was saved at the age of 12 years old and found out that I was not at the age of 16 when I saw evil spirits try to choke me. I was paralysed. I did not actually accept Christ until the age of 20. If you need to move out of your room for a while, you may consider that as well. Also, check your room for any objects that are against God and throw them away. Demons attach themselves to objects.

thanks for your concern 1st of all i am a catholic as i said i used to study about demons now a lot about them nah that dream was a wake up call i found out i wouldnt be moving from path if it wasnt for that dream well i met somebody here who helped me alot and i finally fugure out what the 13 meant so again thanks for your concern and believe it or not demons cant harm me no more

Bogoy,

May the power of God be upon you.

sojourner

I have to tell you all...

I have had some things come up about 13 too.

So l hope it's just nothing and we get past this weekend with business as usual.

Especially since after it all l looked at the calendar and this Friday and discovered it was...And it's 6:13.

Hope it's just the devil humoring himself...

did anything unusual happened aside from the time?

i'd like to share to you all an experience of a friend i have here in school we have the same beliefs but we sometimes disagree with things like he believes the da vinci code is all true well some parts of it has possibilities like jesus having magdalene as his girlfriend and other things but there is one thing that is true is that there is a satanist order called the ilu mina ti they are the direct opposite to the vatican and they have a black pope there are also other orders of satanist

well anyways this friend has a tutor well most of us here have tutors because when our parents are working our parents make sure we are studying so our parents hire tutors, so this friend was alone in the tutor house he was in a room with two clocks well three exactly counting his risk watch so he was studying and then he looks to his watch and it was already 6 and then those other watches in the room also was already at 6 he told that it was exactly 6 no extra seconds just 6 so he looked at those watches it was 666 so he aid to me that he stood up then he looked through the window and he noticed time stoped then a rush of wind came and then everything came back to normal

so this is my friend's story he's a ghost hunter we tried hunting ghost at our school we were the only 1 who talk to a ghost kid which has a year written 1960 if i remember correctly i followed the kid to make sure well he disappeared in the darkness i'm a demon hunter i dont confront them i just know where they are well before well the ghost hunting happened last 2004 we were bored so we walked around the campus it was around 7 or 6 in the evening it was because our parents were having an aqcuaintance party at school

I'm not trying to encourage you in this bogoy....

Just center on Christ...Quit looking at these things....You draw stuff to you.

Fear should be a healthy word for you...Fear God...

quit doing this.

actually this follows me around... these things came to me even before i was a demon hunter and honestly i dont fear god i ask how can you love something you fear?

Hi Bogoy,

Do you have a local church in your area to go and fellowship with others? I feel that you really need this in your life, you need to stay close to GOD and don't stray. If you are a Christian you've got to continue to follow HIS path, the one that HE has made for you. HE will steer you in the right direction and will not lead you astray if you continue to follow HIM and keep looking up towards GOD!

Read the WORD OF GOD Bogoy, open up your Bible and pray for GOD to give you wisdom through HIS WORD. You will start seeing more with clarity as you follow HIS light.....I feel you're getting a bit clouded here with people you are hanging around. It is happening to me right now and I've got to pray about it myself. Take a good look at who you spend your time with...friends that lead you to a world of confusion or JESUS who will open up your eyes. Stick with us here Bogoy...you have a family in Christ that loves your unconditionally.

Do you see what I'm saying?

bogoy...

I think you are mistranslating "fear God". This fear is translated as deep awe, respect, and adoration for the loving God who died for you on the cross. He loves you and wants a relationship with you. My brother, who is now in seminary, says that his education BEGAN at age 21 when he accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior. I feel the same. The "fear" of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Indeed.

Finally, the fear of the Lord is also KNOWING that we are a sinful creature in the presence of an absolute holy God. Anyone that has been in His presence feels the weight of His glory, His perfection, and trembles. If you look at pictures of the universe and contemplate just what kind of BEING could create such a massive expanse, and then realize that He loves YOU and thinks of YOU... YEOWZA! That is humbling and exciting!

Read Isaiah's account after king Uzziah died. Real Paul's account of meeting the glorified Jesus on the road to Damascus. God told Moses that he couldn't see His face because Moses would surely die. Moses saw only the Lord's backside and the after effects were enough light him up like a light bulb.

God loves you. God loves you. God loves you. He wants you to know that today. He loves you more than you could fathom.

yes i see what you are saying

i dont need to go to a church nor need a fellowship i can talk to god right here right now well sometimesafter class if i have time i would go to the chapel to practice tai chi and talk to god well i'm the only one sometimes who goes there well last week wednesday i caught a glimpse of jesus only his right side well he was wearing a red cloth around him when i really look the other way he disappeared

i dont get clouded by anyone i take what they say only as opinions some are true some arent i have my own principles thats what i follow

Bogoy,

I'm not trying to be a parent by TELLING you to go to church!!! I don't go to church right now but I fellowship with a lot of people on this site. People that I can identify with and uplift me in a POSITIVE way and will help me in my spritual walk. I'm not ragging on you to go to church, you do see what I'm saying now don't you? Have you read Romans 12? It talks about your spiritual walk with God after you accept HIM as your one and only TRUE SAVIOR!



Jesus wore a purple robe, it is said 'scarlet' also.....on HIS way to the cross they clothed him in a purple robe to MOCK HIM. The Roman soldiers stripped him naked and threw this purple robe on him making fun of him. In that day purple was signified as a color of royalty. Since JESUS said he was the SON OF GOD and that HE and HIS FATHER ARE ONE..........they mocked him laughingly all the way to the cross 'KING OF THE JEWS' and when they nailed him to the cross the spit at him and pierced his side with a spear! HE died for your sins and it is through that very moment that HE paid the price for all of us!! HE is the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE and it was then that we are able to gain salavation through HIM. That very moment when you accept HIM, you also ACCEPT SALVATION.

With love in Christ

I encourage you to read Romans chapter 12, see Cornelius's post. I will read it with you.
HUGS HUGS



Read the rest because it gets a lot better!

Hi Bogov,
Praise God that you have come this far!!!! Cling to Jesus and tell others about Jesus and He, Jesus, will be always with you. Spend as much time as you can reading the Bible, and not reading trash! The Bible is TRUTH!! Trust only those who line up with what the Bible says.!
justaservant

i would and sometimes the trash i read gives the truth sometimes well we have to accept everything sometimes well honestly i dont trust anyone why because the devil uses any method even the bible so better be careful

and thanks

bogoy, are you having problems with gangs there at school? The bloody 13 reminded me of gang problems we are having here locally. Is there more that you are not sharing with us? You don't have to post it if you don't want to, I am sensing you are definatley afraid of what the wake dream showed you.....

Know that God protects us from all evil, it is HE who gives us a hedge of protection, and sends His angles to gaurd us and protect us. Ask God to gaurd your coming in and your going out. He is always there for you and will fight all your enemies for you. Don't fear what God will do for you. He is there and He is real!

You have gotten a lot of good advice here. Remember to tell this evil to leave in the Name of Jesus. The devil will flee when we call on Jesus.

I stand many times on Isaiah 54:17, "No weapon formed against me shall prosper..." Mark it in your Bible and memorize it. God will never leave us of forsake us. We are His Chosen People.

When you go to bed each night say a quick prayer to God asking for Him to gaurd you awake thoughts and your dream thoughts. He will do this for you.

I read my Bible every night before bed....it helps me to rest easier...and I am in His Word when I sleep.

I will be praying that this will pass for you. Gdd bless you for bringing it to our attention. So that the Saints of God can pray with you for protection from the enemy. His attacks are felt by all of us from time to time.

Tell the demonic spirit that you have God's Word written on your heart and you have Read the BOOK and he can't win, so give up in Jesus Name.


I stand with those who have posted their prayers for you and say, AMEN and Amen in Jesus Name, AMen.


Cyber hugs to you!

before i had but its already been taken care of it well i told the demonic spirit to go away already well i mostly fight back to all of the enemies attacks

i do that too but only if im not too sleepy so thanks for your concern and honestly i dont like angels aside from iruel angel of fear i like the guy and why i dont like angels well i just dont like'em

I don't always get to church because I have a little one, so I watch Charles Stanley on t.v. I also put audio tapes in. Another thing that keeps me close to the Lord is Christian music. I found that www.nsoul.com has alternative Christian music like dance, trance, rock, etc. and they are well respected. I think that the relationship we build now with the Lord will be vitale in the days ahead as we may one day have to meet underground. Music and the Word will definitely cleanse your room! What I have realized in the last year is that I have to now keep a sober and clear mind in order to hear the Lord. There are too many evil spirits trying to influence even the strongest Christians.

It is ok not to like angels, many people woship them instead of God. But they have a purpose in God's kingdom, and that is to gaurd over each of us....I am glad that this is not gang related. I can relate to the dangers that they pose on innocent people. Go to the MAtthew 5: Love your enemies string on this forum, if you feel like you are being attacked. I have posted scriptures there to help all of us, when we are being attacked. Also, Praise God. The devil can't stand when we praise God and Jesus! The Holy Spirit will give you much needed peace too! I had many fights with demonic spirits attacking my sleep and dreams for a long time. Now, I read God's word, before going to sleep. What a difference! God still is control, even when I am unconcience and sleeping! Praise God!

methinks the greatest defence towards evil is knowledge and faith and the usual dont trust anybody thing

Hi,
I hope I don't offend anyone with what I am about to say. I truly hope that I don't.
I, for the life of me, can't imagine why Kung Fu could possibly be evil in any way.
Eastern religion is not predicated upon causal belief. How is this evil? It's just different.
Buddha preached humility and serving others. He abhored cruelty and judging others. His father was a wealthy king. Buddha left this wealth for a life of poverty and spirituality. He and Jesus would have gotten along terrifically. That's my guess, anyway.

Listen, I always try to keep in mind that I am nothing but a mere mortal. I don't know the mind of GOd. But I am betting there are Buddhists out there that He loves just as much as He loves any Christians. I don't think God is a Christian, a Jew, a Buddhist, a Catholic, or anything else we practice here on Earth. God's mind is not our mind.

"His ways are higher than your ways, his thoughts higher than your thoughts..."

Let's love each other, unconditionally, just because separating ourselves into camps called "religion" seems cruel and divisive when some religions condemn others for their practices and ideas. THis is how wars get started.
Seriously.

Love Mankind. Whynot? Decent, good loveable people are everywhere. If we decide that some are not worthy, based upon their religion and/or their culture, we are wrong. We are, fortunately, not God. We don't have to judge. All we have to do is serve each other, make this world a better place with acts of kindness and charity to our fellow man.
Gelica


P.S. I am truly sorry if anyone is angry because of what I have said.

I don't feel angry... I understand your point, although I think that (buddism) religion is based on peace, and peace is a wonderful thing Jesus has taught, BUT peace alone will not give you salvation... only accepting Christ will do that. This day in age that is often left out of even christian religion, and that is saddening. God is a loving God who loves all man kind, he is the creator, HE LOVED US SO MUCH that he gave us his only son... in turn he died on the cross for everyone, even the buddists, the only thing he asked for in return was to glorify his sacrifice by acknowledging his way is the only way. That is through Christ.

i have 1 question for you, if you did so much good in your life and you didnt know jesus, will you be saved or will you burn in hell? if so then jesus is just like lucifer always ask something before giving something....

Just a note here about bloody 13. I had a dream a while back that I posted in the uninterpreted section. I think it's about a terrorist bomb in England. For what it's worth, the 13th came to me over and over again in regards to this dream. If you want to talk about kung-fu some more, then please just ignore this.

It's just that in April the 13th is the passover and I think something bad is going to happen. I hope it's just like all the other dreams with certain dates and the day comes and goes with nothing. That would be the best outcome.

The title of this post caught my eye.

well kung fu here was just an issue here which many doesnt agree with so its no biggy i just wrote because of what i know dreams have something to do with the things right before you go to sleep

so it has a date well just be watchful of the events i'm going to bed now nyt nyt
well at least you dont hear chants while the 13 # is around unlike mine

Jesus can give you everything--Satan can give you nothing.

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Good point!

I really am confused by this use of religion to separate the so called "wheat from the so called chaff."

Let me explain:

Suppose that you are the member of a tribe living in the most remote part of the rainforest. You have never heard of Jesus Christ. Neither has anyone in your tribe. Christian missionaries have, however, heard of you. They are planning a visit to your area. However, the giant monsoon rains are coming any day now. THey usually last for 2 months and cause tremendous flooding, swift currents, etc. The missionaries, quite wisely, decide to wait until the monsoons are over.
One week later, you and your entire tribe are killed in a landslide caused by the torrential rains.

Now, I ask you: Who goes to hell - you and your tribe, because you never had the opportunity to hear of Jesus, or the missionaries who had a chance to save your souls before you died, but thought about their own safety first?

THose of you who are so sure that you know the mind of God, (and maybe you do, maybe you don't) what would God do?

Gelica - I anxiously await your replies.

Please answer this question. I am anxious to have this explained to me.

bump

Ok, I haven't read this whole thread, I just saw Celica's question and would like to try and answer. First, I wan't to know the mind of the Father, and I'm always trying to learn more about His character, but I'm imperfect and make no claims to all knowledge.

Here goes. First, this is a hypothetical question and we can do this sort of thing forever, answering hypotheticals and we wont get anywhere. I'll give it a shot this one time though.

The tribe wont be judged on what they didn't know. This is simple logic and God is the author of all logic and wisdom. God wouldn't punish for what isn't known. Contrary to popular belief (eternal torture in hell), God is not a sadist.

Don't get confused into thinking that by covering your ears while the Gospel is being preached is the same thing though. Voluntary ignorance isn't the same as involuntary ignorance.

The missionaries have the opportuntiy to confess their sin of selfishness and unbeleif. If they do, they'll be forgiven provided they turn-away from their sin and trust God.

If you're sure the Father wants you to help someone, then trust Him. Besides, a mud slide can kill your body but only you can prevent yourself from everlasting life through disbeleif and disobedience.

That's my 2 cents worth.

another question

have you all noticed that people all over the world and all races before and now had worshiped one god they may have many gods but they had one most powerful god called the creator? in my country before the spaniards came to colonies us our ancestors worshipped the "bathala" on what i 've form history he is the creator god, another from muslims allah creator god, greeks in the past zues, and other races