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Stephen
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Who is glorified by the adherents of the "serpent seed" doctrine.

Even though the believers of this doctrine may not realize it, they are actually exalting Satan to God-rank by attributing to him the power of a creator or lifegiver.

The Bible states clearly and emphatically that Jesus Christ made all things. John 1:3 states:All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.

Hebrews 1:10-11 also reserves to God alone the role of creator and lifegiver.

Christ tells us in Matthew 22:30 that the angels in heaven neither marry nor are given in marriage. Angels were created out of spirit essence, and do not have fleshly bodies.

As such they do not reproduce themselves, and have no physical sperm in their bodies with which to engender a child via a human woman.

The truth is that the serpent seed doctrine gives Satan exactly what he wants. Satan blew his stack when he found out God was going to make man in the image of God. Ever since, Satan has been angry and has promulgated a variety of doctrines of demons” which reverse the truth of God.

The serpent seed doctrine is perhaps the most vile of his deceptive doctrines since it relegates various races of men rather than recognizes all men as being made in the image of God.

What then does Genesis 3:15 mean when it refers to thy seed and her seed when talking to the serpent.

Since the Bible cannot contradict itself, the answer is easily seen in John 8:31-59 where Jesus had a discourse with Jews which believed on Him. These Jews basically could not see their need for a saviour since they were Abraham's seed. Jesus even acknowledges in verse 37:“I know that you are Abraham’s seed, and repeats his conviction that these Jews were Abraham’s seed in verse 56.

Yet Jesus also tells these Jews in verse 44 that:ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

Serpent seed teachers sometimes seize on verse 44 to try to show that Jews are a serpent seed race” because Christ said: you are of your father the devil.

They lift this verse woefully out of context as verses 37 and 56 show Christ acknowledged these Jews were from the physical lineage of Abraham (obviously, no serpent seed lineage here).

The Bible also states in I Corinthians 15:45,The first man Adam was made a living soul. If we accept God’s word as our source of truth, we can easily see that Adam is called “the first man.
That excludes the possibility of serpent seed men existing prior to Adam.

Since Genesis 3:20 also states Eve “was the mother of all living, there is no room in the Biblical accounts for some men to have been survivors of the pre-Adamic era either, as any such beings would not have come via Eve’s lineage.

Genesis 1:26-27 clearly states that God decided to make man in His own image” and this applies to both males and females.

In discussing the tongue, James 3:9 states:“therewith we bless God, even the Father; and therewith we curse men, which are made after the similitude of God.

The Bible is most consistent in including all men as being made in God's image.

Those who teach or believe the serpent seed doctrine ought to take sober warning from God’s word in Mark 3:28-29. This passage states that all blasphemies will be forgiven except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

To declare that the work of Gods Holy Spirit is the work of Satan is perilously close to (if it is not indeed) blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Since Genesis 1:26-27, I Corinthians 15:45, and James 3:9 all attribute all men to be created by God in God’s image, to teach or believe that some men are created or engendered by Satan is blasphemous, heretical and tantamount to calling God a liar.
BibleScholar
The question is. If you have done it before, why can't you do it again?

Is Satan or the devil the same as past, present and future?

With Moses, Abraham and Jesus out of the way, Why can't satan do what he did to eve today?

The answer is simple. It is because he can't or never did put his seed in the first place.

He can possess a creature (verified) but he can not make such creature pregnant to carry his child (unverified)
Stephen
"The question is. If you have done it before, why can't you do it again? The answer is simple. It is because he can't or never did put his seed in the first place."

>This is correct

>Satan can only influence the human and persuade them into disobeying the Lord

>This will change during the coming tribulation period

>The Lord will remove His restraint to an extent and satan will be allowed additional liberties when he comes to the earth and is confined on it ..... but no procreation will take place by angelic intent

..... because angelics cannot do this

>What will take place is a possession of certain humans by satan's beast and false prophet who are both fallen angelics like satan .... both of these follow him and he is their god
Miki
Something l considered the other day when talking about Christ's resurrection body and our resurrection body..

Christ calls himself flesh and bone but he never said anything about being flesh and blood which is normally how we make reference.

Could the angels be more than Christ's resurrection body? It's doubtful that the angels could be fully man and fully angelic.
whirlwind
QUOTE (Stephen @ Dec 4 2008, 09:10 PM) *
Related Article:

Who is glorified by the adherents of the "serpent seed" doctrine.

Even though the believers of this doctrine may not realize it, they are actually exalting Satan to God-rank by attributing to him the power of a creator or lifegiver.


Hobgoblin! smile.gif Because someone has the ability to procreate doesn't place them in the position of being a Creator. We all have that ability and we aren't the Creator.


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The Bible states clearly and emphatically that Jesus Christ made all things. John 1:3 states:All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.

Hebrews 1:10-11 also reserves to God alone the role of creator and lifegiver.


And....He is. He gave all of us the ability to procreate. This is a rather silly argument this guy is trying to make. No one is saying Satan was the creator of a different race of beings. He had sex and the result was a child....Cain!


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Christ tells us in Matthew 22:30 that the angels in heaven neither marry nor are given in marriage. Angels were created out of spirit essence, and do not have fleshly bodies.



Again....hobgoblin! laugh.gif First...the "angels in heaven" don't have sex. They came to earth for that. Second...God has given us an example many times of angels on earth. They eat, they walk, they sit and talk. In other words they aren't some floating plasma. They have mass. Their body isn't flesh but is the new and improved variety of body....they are us, we are them after this earthly existance.

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.



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As such they do not reproduce themselves, and have no physical sperm in their bodies with which to engender a child via a human woman.



Well.....this writer certainly disagrees with God's Holy Word then. Why would you repeat what he is saying? huh.gif


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The truth is that the serpent seed doctrine gives Satan exactly what he wants. Satan blew his stack when he found out God was going to make man in the image of God. Ever since, Satan has been angry and has promulgated a variety of doctrines of demons" which reverse the truth of God.

The serpent seed doctrine is perhaps the most vile of his deceptive doctrines since it relegates various races of men rather than recognizes all men as being made in the image of God.



All men are made in the image of God and there are all races of men. No two are alike. Amazing, isn't it. biggrin.gif


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What then does Genesis 3:15 mean when it refers to thy seed and her seed when talking to the serpent.



It means....the serpent, Satan....had SEED. Not an apple seed, or a peace pit but literal sperm and because God tells us Satan had literal seed and knew what had just taken place, knew that was the plan from the very beginning....He would place enmity between the offspring of the serpent and the offspring of Adam and Eve. And....it continues today! That is what this whole battle is about.

The reason God said..."HER SEED" when women don't have seed is to tell us that Joseph is not the biological father of Christ.


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Since the Bible cannot contradict itself, the answer is easily seen in John 8:31-59 where Jesus had a discourse with Jews which believed on Him. These Jews basically could not see their need for a saviour since they were Abraham's seed. Jesus even acknowledges in verse 37:"I know that you are Abraham's seed, and repeats his conviction that these Jews were Abraham's seed in verse 56.

Yet Jesus also tells these Jews in verse 44 that:ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

Serpent seed teachers sometimes seize on verse 44 to try to show that Jews are a serpent seed race" because Christ said: you are of your father the devil.

They lift this verse woefully out of context as verses 37 and 56 show Christ acknowledged these Jews were from the physical lineage of Abraham (obviously, no serpent seed lineage here).



Again....hobgoblin ! rolleyes.gif First...who was the seed called from? Was it Abraham? No...it was through Isaac and Jacob. Abraham was the "father of many nations." To show that the so called "Jews" He was speaking to weren't Jews at all but were the "synagogue of Satan" [Rev.2:9, 3:9] He gave us a clue.....

John 8:33 They answered Him, "We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest Thou, 'Ye shall be made free?'"


All of Israel was in bondage for many years. Those standing before Christ were not Jews but they were those "which say they are Jews, and ARE NOT."


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The Bible also states in I Corinthians 15:45,The first man Adam was made a living soul. If we accept God's word as our source of truth, we can easily see that Adam is called "the first man.
That excludes the possibility of serpent seed men existing prior to Adam.



Adam was NOT THE FIRST MAN ON EARTH. He was the first man in the line to Christ. The first man in God's chosen. As far as "serpent seed men" before that??? huh.gif Who is saying that?


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Since Genesis 3:20 also states Eve "was the mother of all living, there is no room in the Biblical accounts for some men to have been survivors of the pre-Adamic era either, as any such beings would not have come via Eve's lineage.



Eve was the mother of all living. As she was the mother of Christ....umbilical cord to umbilical cord, if one wishes to have eternal life (be of the living) then....she is their/our mother. All people, all races did not come from one being.


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Genesis 1:26-27 clearly states that God decided to make man in His own image" and this applies to both males and females.

In discussing the tongue, James 3:9 states:"therewith we bless God, even the Father; and therewith we curse men, which are made after the similitude of God.

The Bible is most consistent in including all men as being made in God's image.

Those who teach or believe the serpent seed doctrine ought to take sober warning from God's word in Mark 3:28-29. This passage states that all blasphemies will be forgiven except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.



Apparently the writer has no idea what that means anymore than what he has written here. rolleyes.gif


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To declare that the work of Gods Holy Spirit is the work of Satan is perilously close to (if it is not indeed) blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.



And....when and where has that been done?


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Since Genesis 1:26-27, I Corinthians 15:45, and James 3:9 all attribute all men to be created by God in God's image, to teach or believe that some men are created or engendered by Satan is blasphemous, heretical and tantamount to calling God a liar.



To say that Satan fathered Cain is not blasphemous. God tells us he did.


NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Miki @ Dec 5 2008, 09:02 AM) *
Something l considered the other day when talking about Christ's resurrection body and our resurrection body..

Christ calls himself flesh and bone but he never said anything about being flesh and blood which is normally how we make reference.

Could the angels be more than Christ's resurrection body? It's doubtful that the angels could be fully man and fully angelic.



There not fully human,,,,,,,, there angels,,,,,,,,,,,

They can eat food,,,which means they have some kinda organs......now im not saying some flesh organ but they got something.....and they got something to allow them to reproduce with human woman
genesis 6......
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