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Earendel
I think that the identity of the Antichrist is found in Revelation 13:8

"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world."


It says ALL, (and this is the key to understanding) that means all unsaved people including Muslims.

Interesting...

Muslims will not accept Jesus as God's son, but they accept Him as prophet only and less then Muhammad. They believe that Jesus, whom they call Isa, will appear with Islam's saviour called the Mahdi.

Again the bible says ALL unsaved, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb shall worship him.

Muslims will worship him who is the Antichrist, and it won't be the Pope. The false prophet, who is the false Jesus (whom I believe the RCC will proclaim him Jesus, because they know Him not), whom Muslims call Isa, will deceive those that are upon the Earth to believe the lie. It is coming, but war will engulf the earth first...

So there we have it.

What to look forward to:

Vatican & Islam Join Forces


VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Catholic and Muslim leaders at unprecedented Vatican meetings vowed on Thursday to jointly combat violence committed in God's name, to defend religious freedom and to foster equal rights for minority faith groups.

After three days of meetings, the 58 scholars and leaders -- 29 from each faith -- issued a joint declaration that also appealed for respect for religious figures and symbols.

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Can the religion of the Antichrist comprise both the Roman Catholic Church and all of Islam into one unified universal worldwide religion?

I believe it shall.

Adeline
The Characteristics of the anti-christ are as follows:

http://www.eadshome.com/antichrist.htm





Updated: Monday, July 17, 2006

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The 27 characteristics of the AntiChrist
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The 27 Characteristics of the AntiChrist
Know how to recognize the beast and not be swayed into believing that someone is the AntiChrist who doesn't match the biblical characteristics.

1. He comes from among ten kings in the restored Roman Empire; his authority will have similarities to the ancient Babylonians, Persians, and Greeks [Daniel 7:24; Rev 13:2 / Daniel 7:7]

2. He will subdue three kings [Daniel 7:8, 24]

3. He is different from the other kings [Daniel 7:24]

4. He will rise from obscurity…a “little horn” [Daniel 7:8]

5. He will speak boastfully [Daniel 7:8; Rev 13:5]

6. He will blaspheme God, [Daniel 7:25; 11:36; Rev 13:5] slandering His Name, dwelling place, and departed Christians and Old Testament saints [Rev 13:6]

7. He will oppress the saints and be successful for 3 ½ years [Daniel 7:25; Rev 13:7]


8. He will try to change the calendar, perhaps to define a new era, related to himself [Daniel 7:25]

9. He will try to change the laws, perhaps to gain an advantage for his new kingdom and era
[Dan 7:25]

10. He will not be succeeded by another earthly ruler, but by Christ [Daniel 7:26-27]

11. He will confirm a covenant with “many”, i.e. the Jewish people [Daniel 9:27]
This covenant will likely involve the establishment of a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem
[see Dan 9:27; Matt 24:15]

12. He will put an end to Jewish sacrifice and offerings after 3 ½ years and will set up an abomination to God in the Temple [Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15]

13. He will not answer to a higher earthly authority; “He will do as he pleases”[Daniel 11:36]

14. He will show no regard for the religion of his ancestors [Daniel 11:37]

15. He will not believe in any god at all [except for himself] [Daniel 11:37]

16. He will have "no regard for the desire of women": He will either be asexual or homosexual
[Dan 11:37]

17. He will claim to be greater than any god [Daniel 11:37; 2 Thess 2:4]

18. He will claim to be God [2 Thessalonians 2:4]

19. He will only honor a “god” of the military. His whole focus and attention will be on his military. He will conquer lands and distribute them [Daniel 11:39-44]

20. His arrival on the world scene will be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders [2 Thess 2:9]

21. Either he, or his companion [The False Prophet], will claim to be Christ [Matt 24:21-28]

22. He will claim that Jesus did not come in the flesh, or that Jesus did not rise bodily from the grave
[2 John 7]. He will deny that Jesus is the Messiah [I John 2:22]

23. He will be worshipped by many people [Rev. 13:8]

24. He will hate a nation that initially will have some control over his kingdom, but he will destroy this nation [Rev 17:16-18]

25. He will appear to survive a fatal injury [Rev. 13:3; 17:8]

26. His name will be related to the number six hundred and sixty six—but not necessarily in an obvious fashion [Rev 13:17-18].

27. He will be empowered by the devil himself [Rev. 13:2]

Adullam
There is soon coming a time where the enemy will make war directly with the saints. This pre-supposes a time previously where the saints will have risen up and be distinct once again. The modern church syncretizes the world with the word, so the true disciples must first come out of this and be truly the ekklesia...the called out ones. Those who follow Balaam and syncretize with the world must needs be left behind....as these would not need to be overthrown by the prince of confusion.

There is coming a time where even the righteous among the nations will not be able to resist the lies that abound in the world. Satan will overcome the righteous through deception...but the saints will be persecuted for their lives.

Satan will use the goodwill of good men against them in his bid for spiritual dominance. Only the saints will be able to stand against him. So the church of Balaam will persecute the saints who walk in spiritual power and reality.

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Earendel
QUOTE (Adullam @ Dec 4 2008, 11:44 AM) *
There is soon coming a time where the enemy will make war directly with the saints. This pre-supposes a time previously where the saints will have risen up and be distinct once again. The modern church syncretizes the world with the word, so the true disciples must first come out of this and be truly the ekklesia...the called out ones. Those who follow Balaam and syncretize with the world must needs be left behind....as these would not need to be overthrown by the prince of confusion.

There is coming a time where even the righteous among the nations will not be able to resist the lies that abound in the world. Satan will overcome the righteous through deception...but the saints will be persecuted for their lives.

Satan will use the goodwill of good men against them in his bid for spiritual dominance. Only the saints will be able to stand against him. So the church of Balaam will persecute the saints who walk in spiritual power and reality.

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John



further to understand:

The ten kings I see as ten reigns upon the Earth, which is the 4th Beast of Daniel. The 3rd Beast of Daniel was the Roman Empire and the fourth beast followed thereafter.

It has been said that during Queen Victoria's reign (England) that the sun never set on her empire...of course there were many kings and queens of England...so it is a reign. The same as France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, Turkey, Syria under Salahuddin Ayyubi, Russia and Netherlands.

Ten Kings (or rulers) = Ten reigns = Ten countries.

3 horns shall fall and become one, that is to say three nations will become one.

I see this as North America where three reigns or countries shall become one.

England, France and Spain. They are not one yet, so this may mean it will come. It is in the news that the North American Union using the Amero as their common currency is coming.

And there is no doubt that the USA is the most powerful military force ever, and the world's only remaining superpower...who is able to make war with them? The little horn will preside over the three ( I assume as president.)

If I am right, the next president of the USA, a very stern looking man, will be the little horn...but we will see

WW3 (Ezekiel 38) will surely come, immediately followed by the Great Tribulation where the Saints will be persecuted by the little horn according to what is written in prophecy.
Adeline
Reminds me of a vision that Valerie posted in the prophecy section under the thread "communism." She saw Obama and his daughter on a stage and Obama's daughter said, "My Father, the king." She also saluted Obama, nazi style.
Earendel
QUOTE (Adeline @ Dec 4 2008, 11:51 AM) *
Reminds me of a vision that Valerie posted in the prophecy section under the thread "communism." She saw Obama and his daughter on a stage and Obama's daughter said, "My Father, the king." She also saluted Obama, nazi style.



Daniel 7:20
And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Daniel 7:23
Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Concerning Daniel 7:20, Daniel 7:23 , and Revelation 17:12

Ten reigns shall be upon the Earth (which is the 4th beast), and at the end of these reigns will rise another king (ruler of the people). He will bring three of the reigns into one kingdom or into one country. Now which three countries are going to become one country? Is it possible that the French, the English and the Spanish will unite as one country, and under whose leadership? What one man would be capable of doing this?
whirlwind
QUOTE (Adullam @ Dec 4 2008, 12:44 PM) *
There is soon coming a time where the enemy will make war directly with the saints. This pre-supposes a time previously where the saints will have risen up and be distinct once again. The modern church syncretizes the world with the word, so the true disciples must first come out of this and be truly the ekklesia...the called out ones. Those who follow Balaam and syncretize with the world must needs be left behind....as these would not need to be overthrown by the prince of confusion.

There is coming a time where even the righteous among the nations will not be able to resist the lies that abound in the world. Satan will overcome the righteous through deception...but the saints will be persecuted for their lives.

Satan will use the goodwill of good men against them in his bid for spiritual dominance. Only the saints will be able to stand against him. So the church of Balaam will persecute the saints who walk in spiritual power and reality.

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John



I agree. They will stand until they are killed....

11 Corinthians 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.


John Prewett
QUOTE (Adeline @ Dec 4 2008, 11:40 PM) *
The Characteristics of the anti-christ are as follows:

http://www.eadshome.com/antichrist.htm





Updated: Monday, July 17, 2006

home


End Times Events

The 27 characteristics of the AntiChrist
Word | pdf




The 27 Characteristics of the AntiChrist
Know how to recognize the beast and not be swayed into believing that someone is the AntiChrist who doesn't match the biblical characteristics.

1. He comes from among ten kings in the restored Roman Empire; his authority will have similarities to the ancient Babylonians, Persians, and Greeks [Daniel 7:24; Rev 13:2 / Daniel 7:7]

2. He will subdue three kings [Daniel 7:8, 24]

3. He is different from the other kings [Daniel 7:24]

4. He will rise from obscurity…a “little horn” [Daniel 7:8]

5. He will speak boastfully [Daniel 7:8; Rev 13:5]

6. He will blaspheme God, [Daniel 7:25; 11:36; Rev 13:5] slandering His Name, dwelling place, and departed Christians and Old Testament saints [Rev 13:6]

7. He will oppress the saints and be successful for 3 ½ years [Daniel 7:25; Rev 13:7]


8. He will try to change the calendar, perhaps to define a new era, related to himself [Daniel 7:25]

9. He will try to change the laws, perhaps to gain an advantage for his new kingdom and era
[Dan 7:25]

10. He will not be succeeded by another earthly ruler, but by Christ [Daniel 7:26-27]

11. He will confirm a covenant with “many”, i.e. the Jewish people [Daniel 9:27]
This covenant will likely involve the establishment of a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem
[see Dan 9:27; Matt 24:15]

12. He will put an end to Jewish sacrifice and offerings after 3 ½ years and will set up an abomination to God in the Temple [Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15]

13. He will not answer to a higher earthly authority; “He will do as he pleases”[Daniel 11:36]

14. He will show no regard for the religion of his ancestors [Daniel 11:37]

15. He will not believe in any god at all [except for himself] [Daniel 11:37]

16. He will have "no regard for the desire of women": He will either be asexual or homosexual
[Dan 11:37]

17. He will claim to be greater than any god [Daniel 11:37; 2 Thess 2:4]

18. He will claim to be God [2 Thessalonians 2:4]

19. He will only honor a “god” of the military. His whole focus and attention will be on his military. He will conquer lands and distribute them [Daniel 11:39-44]

20. His arrival on the world scene will be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders [2 Thess 2:9]

21. Either he, or his companion [The False Prophet], will claim to be Christ [Matt 24:21-28]

22. He will claim that Jesus did not come in the flesh, or that Jesus did not rise bodily from the grave
[2 John 7]. He will deny that Jesus is the Messiah [I John 2:22]

23. He will be worshipped by many people [Rev. 13:8]

24. He will hate a nation that initially will have some control over his kingdom, but he will destroy this nation [Rev 17:16-18]

25. He will appear to survive a fatal injury [Rev. 13:3; 17:8]

26. His name will be related to the number six hundred and sixty six—but not necessarily in an obvious fashion [Rev 13:17-18].

27. He will be empowered by the devil himself [Rev. 13:2]



Number 24 presupposes that the "beast" carries a "nation." The Great Whore is not a temporal "nation"

Number 25 mention "fatal injury". More specificly, Rev specifies a "head" injury.

Number 26. Rev 13 has two "beast". Rev does not specify WHICH "beast" the "666" applies to.
Jack777
Good topic, thanks Al
endtime
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The Identity of the antichrist is found, only in first and second John.

1 John 2
18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either
; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

1 john 4
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

2 John 1
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.









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John Prewett
There are many, many, many "antichrists". Many people against Christ.

There are only two "beasts" of Rev 13-30

["beast" of "earth" later called the "false prophet"]

There is only ONE final, supreme "beast" [from "sea"] of Rev 13-20.


Its just a bit misleading to refer to the "beast" as an "Antichrist",

even though the "beasts" ARE plainly "anti" Christ.

Why not use Revelation terminology/labeling ?

endtime
QUOTE (John Prewett @ Dec 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
There are many, many, many "antichrists". Many people against Christ.

There are only two "beasts" of Rev 13-30

["beast" of "earth" later called the "false prophet"]

There is only ONE final, supreme "beast" [from "sea"] of Rev 13-20.


Its just a bit misleading to refer to the "beast" as an "Antichrist",

even though the "beasts" ARE plainly "anti" Christ.

Why not use Revelation terminology/labeling ?
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The entire world will be smitten and all of their armies killed by what the Lord's two witnesses do.

Isaiah 34
1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it.
2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter.
3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.

The only group who will live outside of the power of God will be a group of self proclaimed christians who eat people in the name of their jesus.

Zechariah 11
9 Then I said, "I will not feed you. Let what is dying die, and what is perishing perish. Let those that are left eat each other's flesh."

Jeremiah 19
9 And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and everyone shall eat the flesh of his friend in the siege and in the desperation with which their enemies and those who seek their lives shall drive them to despair." '

Lamentations 4:
9 Those slain by the sword are better off Than those who die of hunger; For these pine away, Stricken for lack of the fruits of the field.
10 The hands of the compassionate women Have cooked their own children; They became food for them In the destruction of the daughter of my people.

Luke 17
34 I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left.
35 Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left.
36 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left."
37 And they answered and said to Him, "Where, Lord?" So He said to them, "Wherever the carcas is, there the eagles will be gathered together."







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Adeline
QUOTE (Jack777 @ Dec 4 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Good topic, thanks Al



Hi Jack,

Just to clearify this thread was begun by Earendel.

Have a good night.

Al
Earendel
QUOTE (Earendel @ Dec 4 2008, 12:27 PM) *
I think that the identity of the Antichrist is found in Revelation 13:8

"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world."


It says ALL, (and this is the key to understanding) that means all unsaved people including Muslims.

Interesting...

Muslims will not accept Jesus as God's son, but they accept Him as prophet only and less then Muhammad. They believe that Jesus, whom they call Isa, will appear with Islam's saviour called the Mahdi.

Again the bible says ALL unsaved, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb shall worship him.

Muslims will worship him who is the Antichrist, and it won't be the Pope. The false prophet, who is the false Jesus (whom I believe the RCC will proclaim him Jesus, because they know Him not), whom Muslims call Isa, will deceive those that are upon the Earth to believe the lie. It is coming, but war will engulf the earth first...

So there we have it.

What to look forward to:

Vatican & Islam Join Forces


VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Catholic and Muslim leaders at unprecedented Vatican meetings vowed on Thursday to jointly combat violence committed in God's name, to defend religious freedom and to foster equal rights for minority faith groups.

After three days of meetings, the 58 scholars and leaders -- 29 from each faith -- issued a joint declaration that also appealed for respect for religious figures and symbols.

~~~~
Can the religion of the Antichrist comprise both the Roman Catholic Church and all of Islam into one unified universal worldwide religion?

I believe it shall.


More evidence this is coming...further to what I post above:

Muslim prayer rooms in Catholic schools... click here

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