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dennis mann
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THE EIGHTH DAY

JESUS CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF ALL TIME...4000 years before christ, and 4000 years after christ.



the first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW

the next 2000 years.........from Abraham to Christ

the next 2000 years.........from Christ to the SECOND COMING

the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)

the next DAY (which is an ETERNAL DAY,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT NIGHT,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT END)........THE EIGHTH DAY = ETERNITY FUTURE,,,,,,,,,A SINLESS FUTURE

1 day = 1000 years

the 8th day = (symbolically) 1000 years
Eccl12and13
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 1 2008, 12:38 PM) *
http://members.cox.net/8thday/sabbath.html

THE EIGHTH DAY

JESUS CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF ALL TIME...4000 years before christ, and 4000 years after christ.



the first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW

the next 2000 years.........from Abraham to Christ

the next 2000 years.........from Christ to the SECOND COMING

the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)

the next DAY (which is an ETERNAL DAY,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT NIGHT,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT END)........THE EIGHTH DAY = ETERNITY FUTURE,,,,,,,,,A SINLESS FUTURE

1 day = 1000 years

the 8th day = (symbolically) 1000 years



This is not quite what the post is about, but I just have to correct you on this.

The first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW. REALLY?

Josh. 24 [2] And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. IDOLATRY BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Gen. 4 [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
[8] And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. MURDER BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [13] Thou shalt not kill.

Gen. 12 [13] Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
[[17] And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.
[18] And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife?
[19] Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way. LYING BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 39 7] And it came to pass after these things, that his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.
[8] But he refused, and said unto his master's wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand;
[9] There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God? ADULTERY BEFORE MOSES!

NOTICE: Even the Egyptians knew that ADULTERY was a sin.

Exod. 20 [16] Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exod. 20 [14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Gen. 30 [31] And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:
[32] I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall be my hire.
[33] So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me. STEALING BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [15] Thou shalt not steal.


Lev. 18: [21] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[27] (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) PROFANING GODS NAME BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [7] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

And just in case there is any doubt, God’s laws were in effect before there was man!

2 Peter 2 [4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned,

Rev. 12 [7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

ALL OF GOD’S LAWS WERE IN EFFECT FROM DAY ONE!!!!!

Now if it was a sin before Moses, is it still not a sin after?

1 John 3 [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

And who has sinned?

Eccl. 7 [20] For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Rom. 3 [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

And what happens when there is no law?

Rom. 4 [15] Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

What a paradox we find ourselves in if the law was nailed to the cross. We would all be sinless. But since we know that’s not the case……

GOD’S LAWS STILL STAND!!!
dennis mann
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Dec 3 2008, 06:43 PM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 1 2008, 12:38 PM) *
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THE EIGHTH DAY

JESUS CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF ALL TIME...4000 years before christ, and 4000 years after christ.



the first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW

the next 2000 years.........from Abraham to Christ

the next 2000 years.........from Christ to the SECOND COMING

the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)

the next DAY (which is an ETERNAL DAY,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT NIGHT,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT END)........THE EIGHTH DAY = ETERNITY FUTURE,,,,,,,,,A SINLESS FUTURE

1 day = 1000 years

the 8th day = (symbolically) 1000 years



This is not quite what the post is about, but I just have to correct you on this.

The first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW. REALLY?

Josh. 24 [2] And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. IDOLATRY BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Gen. 4 [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
[8] And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. MURDER BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [13] Thou shalt not kill.

Gen. 12 [13] Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
[[17] And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.
[18] And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife?
[19] Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way. LYING BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 39 7] And it came to pass after these things, that his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.
[8] But he refused, and said unto his master's wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand;
[9] There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God? ADULTERY BEFORE MOSES!

NOTICE: Even the Egyptians knew that ADULTERY was a sin.

Exod. 20 [16] Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exod. 20 [14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Gen. 30 [31] And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:
[32] I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall be my hire.
[33] So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me. STEALING BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [15] Thou shalt not steal.


Lev. 18: [21] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[27] (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) PROFANING GODS NAME BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [7] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

And just in case there is any doubt, God’s laws were in effect before there was man!

2 Peter 2 [4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned,

Rev. 12 [7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

ALL OF GOD’S LAWS WERE IN EFFECT FROM DAY ONE!!!!!

Now if it was a sin before Moses, is it still not a sin after?

1 John 3 [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

And who has sinned?

Eccl. 7 [20] For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Rom. 3 [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

And what happens when there is no law?

Rom. 4 [15] Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

What a paradox we find ourselves in if the law was nailed to the cross. We would all be sinless. But since we know that’s not the case……

GOD’S LAWS STILL STAND!!!



if you're a Judaizer, then, you're not saved.
read galatians
Eccl12and13
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 3 2008, 10:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Dec 3 2008, 06:43 PM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 1 2008, 12:38 PM) *
http://members.cox.net/8thday/sabbath.html

THE EIGHTH DAY

JESUS CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF ALL TIME...4000 years before christ, and 4000 years after christ.



the first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW

the next 2000 years.........from Abraham to Christ

the next 2000 years.........from Christ to the SECOND COMING

the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)

the next DAY (which is an ETERNAL DAY,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT NIGHT,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT END)........THE EIGHTH DAY = ETERNITY FUTURE,,,,,,,,,A SINLESS FUTURE

1 day = 1000 years

the 8th day = (symbolically) 1000 years



This is not quite what the post is about, but I just have to correct you on this.

The first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW. REALLY?

Josh. 24 [2] And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. IDOLATRY BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Gen. 4 [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
[8] And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. MURDER BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [13] Thou shalt not kill.

Gen. 12 [13] Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
[[17] And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.
[18] And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife?
[19] Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way. LYING BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 39 7] And it came to pass after these things, that his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.
[8] But he refused, and said unto his master's wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand;
[9] There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God? ADULTERY BEFORE MOSES!

NOTICE: Even the Egyptians knew that ADULTERY was a sin.

Exod. 20 [16] Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exod. 20 [14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Gen. 30 [31] And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:
[32] I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall be my hire.
[33] So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me. STEALING BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [15] Thou shalt not steal.


Lev. 18: [21] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[27] (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) PROFANING GODS NAME BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [7] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

And just in case there is any doubt, God’s laws were in effect before there was man!

2 Peter 2 [4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned,

Rev. 12 [7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

ALL OF GOD’S LAWS WERE IN EFFECT FROM DAY ONE!!!!!

Now if it was a sin before Moses, is it still not a sin after?

1 John 3 [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

And who has sinned?

Eccl. 7 [20] For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Rom. 3 [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

And what happens when there is no law?

Rom. 4 [15] Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

What a paradox we find ourselves in if the law was nailed to the cross. We would all be sinless. But since we know that’s not the case……

GOD’S LAWS STILL STAND!!!



if you're a Judaizer, then, you're not saved.
read galatians


That's the best you have. In a previous post you asked for chapter and verse, which I provided. All I did in this reply was to inform all of those reading that God's laws were in effect before Moses. They are in effect now. And they will be in effect for ever. Here is one example:

Zach. 14 [16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
[18] And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
[19] This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

I also provided scriptures showing that sin is the transgerssion of God's laws. All have sinned, therefore all have transgressed God's laws. Again proving, all of Gods laws are still in effect. Because, as Paul stated, "for where no law is, there is no transgression"

Now would you like to address the points I just made as an adult or would you like to continue to ignore them and call me names?

Again, the point made above is that All of God's laws were in effect before Moses came alone. Did you find me in error? If so, please point it out so that I can go and look into and come back with a reply. If you think I misinterpreted the scriptures, again, provide me with chapter and verses so that we can discuss the matter.

But if you can find no error in what was posted, let's move on to the next topic.

I can be a man about this.....can you?

Don't forget......your readers are waiting for a reply DM!!!!!!



dennis mann
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Dec 4 2008, 02:47 AM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 3 2008, 10:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Dec 3 2008, 06:43 PM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 1 2008, 12:38 PM) *
http://members.cox.net/8thday/sabbath.html

THE EIGHTH DAY

JESUS CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF ALL TIME...4000 years before christ, and 4000 years after christ.



the first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW

the next 2000 years.........from Abraham to Christ

the next 2000 years.........from Christ to the SECOND COMING

the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)

the next DAY (which is an ETERNAL DAY,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT NIGHT,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT END)........THE EIGHTH DAY = ETERNITY FUTURE,,,,,,,,,A SINLESS FUTURE

1 day = 1000 years

the 8th day = (symbolically) 1000 years



This is not quite what the post is about, but I just have to correct you on this.

The first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW. REALLY?

Josh. 24 [2] And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. IDOLATRY BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Gen. 4 [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
[8] And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. MURDER BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [13] Thou shalt not kill.

Gen. 12 [13] Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
[[17] And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.
[18] And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife?
[19] Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way. LYING BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 39 7] And it came to pass after these things, that his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.
[8] But he refused, and said unto his master's wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand;
[9] There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God? ADULTERY BEFORE MOSES!

NOTICE: Even the Egyptians knew that ADULTERY was a sin.

Exod. 20 [16] Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exod. 20 [14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Gen. 30 [31] And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:
[32] I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall be my hire.
[33] So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me. STEALING BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [15] Thou shalt not steal.


Lev. 18: [21] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[27] (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) PROFANING GODS NAME BEFORE MOSES!

Exod. 20 [7] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

And just in case there is any doubt, God’s laws were in effect before there was man!

2 Peter 2 [4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned,

Rev. 12 [7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

ALL OF GOD’S LAWS WERE IN EFFECT FROM DAY ONE!!!!!

Now if it was a sin before Moses, is it still not a sin after?

1 John 3 [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

And who has sinned?

Eccl. 7 [20] For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Rom. 3 [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

And what happens when there is no law?

Rom. 4 [15] Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

What a paradox we find ourselves in if the law was nailed to the cross. We would all be sinless. But since we know that’s not the case……

GOD’S LAWS STILL STAND!!!



if you're a Judaizer, then, you're not saved.
read galatians


That's the best you have. In a previous post you asked for chapter and verse, which I provided. All I did in this reply was to inform all of those reading that God's laws were in effect before Moses. They are in effect now. And they will be in effect for ever. Here is one example:

Zach. 14 [16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
[18] And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
[19] This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

I also provided scriptures showing that sin is the transgerssion of God's laws. All have sinned, therefore all have transgressed God's laws. Again proving, all of Gods laws are still in effect. Because, as Paul stated, "for where no law is, there is no transgression"

Now would you like to address the points I just made as an adult or would you like to continue to ignore them and call me names?

Again, the point made above is that All of God's laws were in effect before Moses came alone. Did you find me in error? If so, please point it out so that I can go and look into and come back with a reply. If you think I misinterpreted the scriptures, again, provide me with chapter and verses so that we can discuss the matter.

But if you can find no error in what was posted, let's move on to the next topic.

I can be a man about this.....can you?

Don't forget......your readers are waiting for a reply DM!!!!!!



hey, bible-twister,

the Mosaic Law didn't exist until Moses recieved the Law from God at Mt. Sinai (soon after the Exodus)

Murder was sin, before the Mosaic Law............such as, Cain killed abel...........Cain knew that he was wrong

But,
the Mosaic Law was a special agreement between ONLY THE ELECT NATION ISRAEL and God..........and the Mosaic Law lasted ONLY from Mt. Sinai until Acts 2 Pentecost..........(at which time the Mosaic Law vanished, and the NT began)

the Mosaic Law had an automatic self-destruct button within it:
Deu 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Jesus said that he nailed the Mosaic Law to the cross, and killed it

you love the OT letter of the Law which killeth.

I love the NT Spirit of Grace, which gives life abundant

You Judaizers are not saved

Repent and believe the Gospel!........before it's too late

Eccl12and13
I really hope your followers are reading your reply so that they all know how ridiculous it all sounds.

First you said, "the Mosaic Law didn't exist until Moses recieved the Law from God at Mt. Sinai (soon after the Exodus)"

But I proved throught the scriptures that they did:

Josh. 24 [2] And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. IDOLATRY BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 12 [13] Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
[[17] And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.
[18] And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife?
[19] Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way. LYING BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 39 7] And it came to pass after these things, that his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.
[8] But he refused, and said unto his master's wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand;
[9] There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God? ADULTERY BEFORE MOSES!

Gen. 30 [31] And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:
[32] I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall be my hire.
[33] So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me. STEALING BEFORE MOSES!

Lev. 18: [21] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[27] (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) PROFANING GODS NAME BEFORE MOSES!

So how are these scriptures twisting the bible? Did not all of these events happen BEFORE Moses? And are not ALL of these laws the same that God gave Moses to give to the nation of Israel? So they did, in fact, exist before God gave them to Moses. You are wrong on this DM! Next!

Second you said, "the Mosaic Law was a special agreement between ONLY THE ELECT NATION ISRAEL and God."

But they were not. Let's read it together:

Lev. 18 [4] Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God.
[5] Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
[26] Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

So is the 'stranger that sojourneth' only the elect nation of Israel?

Lev. 19 [34] But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

So the 'stranger' is to be as one born of the nation of Israel.

Lev. 24 [16] And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
[22] Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.

So as we can plainly see, " For there is no respect of persons with God." Rom. 2:11. Whatever punishment that was given to the nation of Israel was the same punishment given to the 'stranger'. God even goes on to say that there is ONE manner of law for the stranger as for one of your own country. You are wrong on this one too DM! Next!

Third you said the following, "and the Mosaic Law lasted ONLY from Mt. Sinai until Acts 2 Pentecost..........(at which time the Mosaic Law vanished, and the NT began)"

But Christ said that keeping the LAW gives eternal life. Now if we are to take advice from anyone, I think Jesus should be the one we should take it from. Let's read some of the advice Christ gave for receiving eternal life. Come on DM.....let's read it together:

Matt. 19 [16] And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Now I guess I twisted these scriptures also, huh DM? Christ is asked a question and He gives an answer. The question? "What thing SHALL I DO for eternal life?" And Jesus' reply was, "KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS"!

Now just in case you are wondering which ones, let's read them together:

Matt. 19 [18] He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
[19] Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Sounds just like those same (10) was was given to the nation of Israel. It is very important to notice something about the person that asked Jesus the question.......we have no idea if he is a Jew or a Gentile!!!! But there is one thing I do know....if Jesus told this person to keep the commandments to enter into eternal life, you can best believe it will be the keeping of those same commadments that will be needed for anyone else to enter into His kingdom!! Or do you think Jesus is going to give non Israelites a break, a pass, or do them a special favor and say, "You guys are ok....you don't have to keep that old law" That was just for the Jews."

Well as we read above, "Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.", Lev. 24:22, so that just cannot be the case. Looks like we all are going to need to keep those commandments, that is, if we want to enter into eternal life. You are wrong on this one also DM! Strike (3) DM!!!!! YOUR ARE OUT!!!!!!! I would stop now but this is getting pretty good.

Fourth you said the following, "Jesus said that he nailed the Mosaic Law to the cross, and killed it."

Before going on, let's stop and review everything we have just learned:

1) DM says the law did not exist until Moses received them from God on Mt. Sini, but that is not what the scripture said.
2) DM says Gods laws were only for the nation of Israel, but the scriptures says Gods laws are to be observed by the 'strangers' also.
3) DM says the law was good up unto Acts the 2nd chapter, but from the mouth of Christ Himself, it is the keeping of the commandments that gives eternal life.

So now you want us to believe that ALL of those laws the were before there was a nation of Israel, during the time of the nation of Israel, and the ones that Jesus Christ said himself would give eternal life, were NAILED TO THE CROSS!!!!!!! Are you kidding me? Where are you getting your doctrine from DM? Here is were mine comes from:

2 Tim. 3 [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Everthing I presented was from the scriptures and untwisted.

But there is one thing I TOTALLY AGREE with you on DM, and it is what you said at the end of all of your wrong information:

"You love the OT letter of the Law which killeth." And you could not be more correct. I do love the law of the OT, because as we just learned, it is those same Laws that were given in the OT that Jesus says will give ALL that keep them, eternal life.

And you are right when you said "They Killeth!!!"

James 2 [10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
[12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

And let's just confirm that by reading the following:

Rom. 2 [12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Now don't forget DM.....your followers will be waiting for a reply. And do me and them a favor and come back with some truth this time and not your same used up old line, "You Judaizers are not saved.", or, " if you're a Judaizer, then, you're not saved.".

At least give me something fresh!!!

Thanks for reading y'all!!!!












dennis mann
the stranger that sojourneth among israel.............he was required to live by Mosaic Law rules, because he was WITH israel..........if he had been with any other nation, he was not required to live under the Mosaic Law rules.

Jesus lived as UNDER THE MOSAIC LAW, because the Law was in effect until jesus died (then the Law vanished , nailed to the Cross)

After jesus died, the jews were no longer required to live per Mosaic law rules, such as PHYSICAL CIRCUMCISION.........read galations, you Judaizer.

Praise God!
Eccl12and13
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 1 2008, 12:38 PM) *
http://members.cox.net/8thday/sabbath.html

THE EIGHTH DAY

JESUS CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF ALL TIME...4000 years before christ, and 4000 years after christ.



the first 2000 years.........without the MOSAIC LAW

the next 2000 years.........from Abraham to Christ

the next 2000 years.........from Christ to the SECOND COMING

the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)

the next DAY (which is an ETERNAL DAY,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT NIGHT,,,,,,,,DAY WITHOUT END)........THE EIGHTH DAY = ETERNITY FUTURE,,,,,,,,,A SINLESS FUTURE

1 day = 1000 years

the 8th day = (symbolically) 1000 years


You even have this all messed up:

2 Peter 3 [8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

God is giving man 6 days (6000) years to try things mans way. And on the 7th day, Jesus 1000 year rule, Jesus will teach mankind His way. And on the 8th day, God the Father will dwell with man:

Rev. 21 [1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

That's why God wants us to keep those terrible old laws He gave us, like keeping His 7th day Sabbath holy, so that it will remind us of a future time; eternity with Him on the 8th day!
Eccl12and13
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 4 2008, 10:56 AM) *
the stranger that sojourneth among israel.............he was required to live by Mosaic Law rules, because he was WITH israel..........if he had been with any other nation, he was not required to live under the Mosaic Law rules.

Jesus lived as UNDER THE MOSAIC LAW, because the Law was in effect until jesus died (then the Law vanished , nailed to the Cross)

After jesus died, the jews were no longer required to live per Mosaic law rules, such as PHYSICAL CIRCUMCISION.........read galations, you Judaizer.

Praise God!


So you are addmitting that Gods Laws were not just for the nations of Israel. But I also see you are not going to address any of the other parts of the posts.

Well, to answer to what you just posted, If the stranger had been with any other nation, he would not have known about the God of Isreal. Besides, God told them not to do what the other nation had done before them:

Deut. 18 [9] When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

But let's read what the other nations would say when they saw how the nation of Israel worshipped the true and living God:

Deut. 4[5] Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
[6] Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
[7] For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
[8] And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

And as fas as keeping Gods commandments, how could I forget the LAST BLESSING IN THE BIBLE!:

Rev. 22 [14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

So please DM. Call me all of the names in the book, because I really don't care. But the one thing I do know and care about is this, if I keep the commandments of God I WILL enter into His kingdom, can you say the same by telling men they do not have to keep them? Let's hear what Jesus had to say about your actions:

Matt. 5 18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Please think about what it is you are teaching others. You are telling them they do not have to keep the very same commandments Jesus says will give eternal life.

If you continue, you may very well hear these words, "[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt. 7

I truly pray this will not be the case, but are you willing to take that chance?

Think about it for just another moment: If you keep the commandments, you are guaranteed to get into the kingdom of God. Christ said it himself!

Now the other side of that coin is doing what you are doing now, and that is telling others they do not have to keep Gods commandments. You are teaching men to break Gods laws, by telling them they were nailed to the cross. Granted, there were a set of ordinances that were nailed to the cross, but the ones that were nailed, according to God, were against us. How is, thou shalt not kill, steel, lie, etc., against us?

THINK ABOUT IT! You are risking your salvation on (1) scripture, when there are hundreds that tells us to keep the commandments.

For those of you reading this and other posts like these, by myself, Bro. Ozell and Bro. Tan and any others that say we are to keep the law, BE WARNED!

Heb.3
[8] Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
[15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
Heb.4
[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

FOR THIS DAY, AT THIS MOMENT, WHILE READING THIS POST, YOU ARE HEARING THE TRUE WORD OF GOD!!!!!!
dennis mann

but, you're wrong,

the other nations DID know about Israel's God............joshua 2;10

you're not reading the bible

read the bible


Jos 2:1 And Joshua the son of Nun sent out of Shittim two men to spy secretly, saying, Go view the land, even Jericho. And they went, and came into an harlot's house, named Rahab, and lodged there.
Jos 2:2 And it was told the king of Jericho, saying, Behold, there came men in hither to night of the children of Israel to search out the country.
Jos 2:3 And the king of Jericho sent unto Rahab, saying, Bring forth the men that are come to thee, which are entered into thine house: for they be come to search out all the country.
Jos 2:4 And the woman took the two men, and hid them, and said thus, There came men unto me, but I wist not whence they were:
Jos 2:5 And it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark, that the men went out: whither the men went I wot not: pursue after them quickly; for ye shall overtake them.
Jos 2:6 But she had brought them up to the roof of the house, and hid them with the stalks of flax, which she had laid in order upon the roof.
Jos 2:7 And the men pursued after them the way to Jordan unto the fords: and as soon as they which pursued after them were gone out, they shut the gate.
Jos 2:8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof;
Jos 2:9 And she said unto the men, I know that the LORD hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you.
Jos 2:10 For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed.
Jos 2:11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.
Jos 2:12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the LORD, since I have shewed you kindness, that ye will also shew kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token:
Jos 2:13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death.
Pamela
The 8th day = Shemini Atzeret

The day after the "seven".....

Known also as "the eighth day of assembly" celebrated together with Simchat Torah on the 22nd and 23rd of Tishrei....

Numbers 29:35 On the eighth day ye shall have a solemn assembly: ye shall do no servile work therein:

Nothing more, nothing less....

Of course we do not celebrate the Festivals nor do we follow the laws written in the book of Lev. Jesus' death on the cross fulfilled these laws and we are given the 10 Commandmants to expose sin in our lives.

So one could look at the Commandmants as a tool for "sin exposure" in the life of the believer....No more nothing less....

The 8th day follows Festivals and Sabbaths it's important to keep it in it's proper context and not try turn something so simple into to something so complex...








Eccl12and13
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 4 2008, 11:41 AM) *
but, you're wrong,

the other nations DID know about Israel's God............joshua 2;10

you're not reading the bible

read the bible


Jos 2:1 And Joshua the son of Nun sent out of Shittim two men to spy secretly, saying, Go view the land, even Jericho. And they went, and came into an harlot's house, named Rahab, and lodged there.
Jos 2:2 And it was told the king of Jericho, saying, Behold, there came men in hither to night of the children of Israel to search out the country.
Jos 2:3 And the king of Jericho sent unto Rahab, saying, Bring forth the men that are come to thee, which are entered into thine house: for they be come to search out all the country.
Jos 2:4 And the woman took the two men, and hid them, and said thus, There came men unto me, but I wist not whence they were:
Jos 2:5 And it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark, that the men went out: whither the men went I wot not: pursue after them quickly; for ye shall overtake them.
Jos 2:6 But she had brought them up to the roof of the house, and hid them with the stalks of flax, which she had laid in order upon the roof.
Jos 2:7 And the men pursued after them the way to Jordan unto the fords: and as soon as they which pursued after them were gone out, they shut the gate.
Jos 2:8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof;
Jos 2:9 And she said unto the men, I know that the LORD hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you.
Jos 2:10 For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed.
Jos 2:11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.
Jos 2:12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the LORD, since I have shewed you kindness, that ye will also shew kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token:
Jos 2:13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death.


You are correct. The other nations did know about the God of Israel. But if you read my post you will see that I stated that when I referred to Deut. 4

Deut. 4[5] Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
[6] Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

But again, is that all you have to say?

As I have always said, I am not trying to change minds, that is Gods job. For it is He that sends the delusion, not me.

2 Thes 2 [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

These posts are for those seeking the truth and looking for answers. It is not those unwilling to, "...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev. 18:4

dennis mann
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Dec 4 2008, 07:13 PM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Dec 4 2008, 11:41 AM) *
but, you're wrong,

the other nations DID know about Israel's God............joshua 2;10

you're not reading the bible

read the bible


Jos 2:1 And Joshua the son of Nun sent out of Shittim two men to spy secretly, saying, Go view the land, even Jericho. And they went, and came into an harlot's house, named Rahab, and lodged there.
Jos 2:2 And it was told the king of Jericho, saying, Behold, there came men in hither to night of the children of Israel to search out the country.
Jos 2:3 And the king of Jericho sent unto Rahab, saying, Bring forth the men that are come to thee, which are entered into thine house: for they be come to search out all the country.
Jos 2:4 And the woman took the two men, and hid them, and said thus, There came men unto me, but I wist not whence they were:
Jos 2:5 And it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark, that the men went out: whither the men went I wot not: pursue after them quickly; for ye shall overtake them.
Jos 2:6 But she had brought them up to the roof of the house, and hid them with the stalks of flax, which she had laid in order upon the roof.
Jos 2:7 And the men pursued after them the way to Jordan unto the fords: and as soon as they which pursued after them were gone out, they shut the gate.
Jos 2:8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof;
Jos 2:9 And she said unto the men, I know that the LORD hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you.
Jos 2:10 For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed.
Jos 2:11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.
Jos 2:12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the LORD, since I have shewed you kindness, that ye will also shew kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token:
Jos 2:13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death.


You are correct. The other nations did know about the God of Israel. But if you read my post you will see that I stated that when I referred to Deut. 4

Deut. 4[5] Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
[6] Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

But again, is that all you have to say?

As I have always said, I am not trying to change minds, that is Gods job. For it is He that sends the delusion, not me.

2 Thes 2 [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

These posts are for those seeking the truth and looking for answers. It is not those unwilling to, "...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev. 18:4



Jesus summed up the ten commandments into just 2 commandments,,,,,,,,,,love God and neighbor

all of the Mosaic Law was SHADOWS of Christ Himself.............the Substance (Christ) is infinitely better than the SHADOW.

but, you reject the Substance and cling to the SHADOW...........you're a Judaizer,,,,,,,,,you're not saved , as per Galatians

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

the Mosaic Law is a physical picture story,,,,,,,,,of SPIRITUAL realities in the NT,,,,,,,,,,such as,,,,the Passover lamb is a picture of the LAMB OF GOD (CHRIST)............the lamb is no longer needed because the lamb was just a SHADOW of CHRIST...............we have Christ now

Physical circumcision is a picture-story of SPIRITUAL circumcision (of the heart) in the NT

OT dietary laws are a picture-story of a SPIRITUAL diet in the NT............in NT times (now), we reject un-clean food (porn, greed, lies, jealousy, heresies, soap operas, etc) and we dine on clean, nutricious SPIRITUAL food (Bible verses)

if we eat un-clean foods, we are cut off from "israel" (christianity, salvation)
beloved57
QUOTE
the next 1000 years............THE MILLENNIAL REIGN OF CHRIST........REST, PEACE, PROSPERITY (but ends in a great rebellion)


sorry, the rebellion is now, the man of sin reigns supreme in the churches today and have rejected the message of salvation , for mens corrupt doctrines..The 1000 yrs has ended, this time period was merely symbolic and not literal..
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