There is this church in Fresno California where their local pastor be preaching and forbidding his fellowship men and women from watching horror related shows and films. Some even go to the extreme of not allowing their members to watch TV at all.

Why is this the case? Does scripture shows anything about watching horror movies such as witchcraft and demon related shows?

I never heard of any Christian denomination who resorts to this kind of restrictions on their local members. I can understand how a parent wants to forbidden their younger children from being expose to horror related shows.

Perhaps these high ranking officials to such church is acting like the father figure and their followers are like their children.

Good on him, why do Christians need to be concerning themselves with the ways of the enemy? Why be entertained by violence and horror? Isn't there enough of it in the world? Why do we get such a kick entertaining ourselves with this stuff when there are people suffering in these exact same ways in other parts of the world? We should be dwelling instead in whatever is noble, whatever is lovely and whatever is true.

Philippians 4:8 (New International Version)

8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

Ephesians 5 : 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

God bless x

What about the movie "The passion of Christ"???

It looks like a horror movie to me but yet, the message is yet so powerful and to some, it helps to strengthen up their faith.

How can that be wrong?

is watching a horror movie sin?

I watch horror movies and it does not compel me to go do horrific acts.

should the servants of God not enjoy this life as do the wicked.

should the servants of God forbid themselves from dancing, going to movies or even smoking a cigar.

as long as the servants of God ad there children are taught what is right and what is wrong according to the Lord they will be fine.

what is sinful about watching a horror movie?

what is sinful about dancing.

what is sinful about watching a witch or pagans?

we do it every easter and Christmas and Halloween.

the problem is when we partake of the foolish practice and teach others also.

the answer is

is it sin.

the question is

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

demons feed on fear, as one aware of the spirit world I have seen the demonic activity around horror movies. We are to keep our lives pure and holy. But everyones walk is different so it all depends on how close you are to Him! But for a church to make people instead of teaching I feel is wrong I think it gets into legalism.

unless you DON'T do (those kind of things), because you love the Lord,
then it is works..

i know, that's bad english.. but I just woke up ..

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okay.. i'm a bit more awake now.. so I'll try to clarify..

you can NOT do this.. or NOT do that.. because somebody says it's a sin.. - or because somebody demands that you don't do it..
but until, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is sin.. (and HE WILL) .. and until you DON'T do those things because of your love
for the Lord, and your desire to please Him..

then.. it is living by the law.. out of the flesh..

tho, I must admit.. refraining from those things is a good thing.. even if you aren't personally convicted.. in time you WILL be
if your desire is to be like Him..

hmmm.. maybe? that made what i meant to say a little clearer than mud? eh?

Very nicely put!!!

Yeah I guess you have a point about legalism, but maybe the pastor is just so passionate about the issue because the people are getting too into horror movies, in an unhealthy way...
but anyhow, I still stick by my point of horror being something which does not honour God.
As for dancing and so on... I think it depends!!

I agree very much with you!! You are definitely higher up on the narrow road!! But God gave us free choice and we cannot force people but love them just like Jesus. We love Him because He first loved us!! Looking back on my life it has been a journey coming out of the world I did not change over night but Jesus being the author and finisher of my faith has made me what I am today!! I have to say I did not do it without Him! Man has a habit of making so many rules that they end up hurting the good and rewarding the bad. Living under the law is hard but living in the spirit brings harmony to all!

2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?


James 1:27
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.


1 John 2:15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.

Praise God that someone is drawing a line in the sand!

Horror movies are of the world, they appeal to the "lust of the eyes".

The eyes of our flesh want to see evil and sin and murder and witchcraft and every other filthy glorified thing. Even if they are presented to us through the movie or television screen!

If "ANYONE" loves the world or the things in it, the love of the Father is not in him
This is according to 1 John 2:15

Can we say that evil horror movies are of the Father??

If it is not of the Lord, then where is it from??

Now, someone will say, is dancing from the devil too? is sushi from the devil? is riding in a hot air balloon of the devil??

The answer to all of them is this, is it contrary to the Word of God; does it glorify God; is there joy in it that pleases God or that pleases our flesh???

When we truly seek the Lord and put off (mortify) the deeds of the flesh, then we will find that the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth.

With so many people that are Christians, the problem seems to be that they are seeking the flesh and afterward they seek to make sure they can get God's approval of the deeds that they are doing in the flesh, to erase their own guilt and make themselves ok with God.


Again, Im glad that this church is drawing some lines and boundaries!!

God bless them!

In Christ alone,
Chris

God has led me to watch certain movies in the past, because there was a message God wanted me to see.

I know many Christians who take the tv out of their homes because they have kids.

To each what their faith allows.

1Co 10:23 All things are lawful; but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful; but not all things edify.

Can you give an honest answer:


How do these movies affect kids?

If we answered honestly, then if we condone these types of movies, are we taking proper care of the children of this generation? Are we promoting a mindset that is unhealthy in the generations that see these things in their formative years. What kind of conditioning is it?


I am always astounded at how many "small" children I see at the movie rental places who are looking at and commenting on the horror movies that they have seen. What GOOD can possibly come of it? OR are we already seeing the consequences of a generation who does not have a soul of love and compassion, but rather violence?

In His Love,
Suzanne

the mind is easily programmed...

without realizing how deeply ingrained messages are, or praying about what you
allow in...the gates, then you stand in the attack line for future assaults. why open
the gate or door?

are horror movies life or death? satan came for nothing to kill, steal and destroy
and Jesus came that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

there is a verse, i can't remember the address...those that hate God, love death.
that makes it pretty simple really.

and yes, i agree, God can and does lead us at times to see something that we
otherwise would pass on...and there may be a clue for intercession and prayer
or a gleaning of the trouble someone is in...something like that, but to feed on
death is what the enemy feeds the masses, and it sells good!.

blessings,
signet

But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death. Proverbs 8:36

i can give an honest answer let the world do as it pleases focus on your self stop being so cynical and let god be god



same thing when it comes to cynical christians and legalists you have kids and your kids grow up around a cynical legalist parent who is suppose to be a proffessing christian what wil the out come be when they are teen agers ?

wil they love their brothers and sisters in the lord who belong to diffrent denominations or wil they be like their parents to were they pick flaws judge what they hear preached from the pul pit with out letting the message the pastor is preaching speak to them

you cant sheild your kids like tsth thinks tsth thinks its up to us to shield our kids from the real world i say dont sheild your kids but teach them with out letting that synical critical spirit attaching to your kids


i watch what i like i use what you call the brain that god has given me if something i am watching offends me i use the remote and turn the channel

we al watch the news its evident in this forum when it comes to what christians are saying about obama its as if you believe the press and what the news reporters are saying

fear is running rampart in this forum and its synical christians and legalists who do the most damage

evil has been around us 24 / 7


twin towers 9 / 11

Rwandan genocide

whats happening in duffor

christians being persecuted in india

indian pastors having bountys put on their head by hindus

and you want to worry when it comes to what is hired from your local video easy store


haloween has been around for ages i see no christian in your country has been able to get the non believers to come around

we have even had haloween introduced to us aussies


what do you say to your kids when their teacher says christians are being killed in india or what we saw recently on news with the terroists blowing up the motel in mumbi and hearing aussies have been killed and american and british citizens have been taken hostage

the world will do as it pleases no matter what you have to say

the video stores that hire horror movies wil be hiring horror movies when my sons kids grow up and their kids grow up

new horror movies wil hit our cynimas and new ones wil be made


i watch the odd horror movie i pray and nothing bad has happend to me or have i wanted to grab a knife and go slash the throat of my neighbours living next to me

amazing a question is put up and out come the replys how holy are though for pointing and judging what the world does when you should be focusing on what god wants you to deal with

just like asking is there any real fathers in this forum can the real godly fathers speak up only inter net fathers need to speak up no real dad or divorced dad is alowed to speak up

deal with that cynincal spirit if you dont your kids wil have the same attitude as you when they leave home and settle into the real world

dont sheild your kids but teach them from right to wrong with out being judgmental


if you dont like what a video store hires dont watch the news either or come to on line forums whinning


if you cant be effective in your neighbour hood you live in were you are winning the non believers over dont think you can win me over to were i come beside you and say amen preach it amen well said

the news you watch is the worst perpatrator it prepairs you you become accustomed to the point were you become numb

get rid of your tvs and video recorders and dvds and play station games and x box games the kids have and dont have the local paper in your home if you really think you can shield your kids from the real world while you are at it get rid of the inter net and your computers on line bullying is a new fad know and we have pedophiles real monsters who come on to chat sites and target your kids do you know what your boy is viewing when it comes to the inter net ?

i am guiding a young person who cant talk to his father who is a pastor or wil he talk to the youth pastor or the christians in his youth group he is addicted to porn and he is only 16 yrs old i dont know why he is opening up to me when he can be talking to his father hear is what he said when i said why cant you talk to your father or the youth pastor or the christians you know he said they are legalists like my dad and mum and my sister he has a big problem and i told him what to do he has taken his computer to the computer shop to get everything that has been sent to him wiped out i said every time you log on to a porn site they wil send you emails and you are lucky your dad has not got into your computer and gone over your in comming emails his friend helped him and we talk when ever he needs to talk to me

he has what you cal safe eyes i sent this to him it protects him he cant get into porn sites when the temptation rises and the flesh craves for what he has been viewing and when he is strugling he calls me up

very sad when a young person like the young youth i am talking to cant talk to his father who is a pastor but can talk to some one who has no relationship with his father porn is the worst perpartator with all the other ones christians wil not deal with

but only have a few that are there pet peeves and you only hear their pet peeves when it comes to on line forums


sad when you cant be effective in the real world were you are winning your hearers over




Damo

Yes Bible Scholar! The scripture does speak of these things.

Pro 27:20 Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Pretty much sums it up for you Damo. THAT is the sad part, there is no regard for the children....or your brother?


You don't care, as long as it doesn't touch you, then who cares? It has an affect on the children and the generations that grow up on watching this demonic stuff. It is very harmful in the minds of children and teaches them that evil is recreational. It(murder) can be watched for fun.


Genesis 4:9 Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" He said, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?"


In His Truth,
Suzanne

Horror movies generally glorify evil, fear, death, violence, murder and gore. This is totally grevious to the Holy Spirit.

It is one thing to have a movie with any of the above things in it which are incidentally a part of the story. It is another when any of these negative things are centerpieced and luxuriated in like horror movies do. Satan want us to fill our minds with the "fun" of evil. Horror movies do not glorify truth, beauty, righteousness, justice, etc. Horror movies are very ungodly. There is no place for that sort of entertainment in a spiritually healthy believer's life.

The Passion of the Christ is not a horror movie because its theme is the sacrificial love of Jesus, not fear, evil, violence, etc. Blood and gore do not neccessitate what defines something as horror. Scenes of war related gore, accidents and surgery are not horror either if they are not focused on inspiring fear and/or disgust.

Its not the movies per say,,,its the famine........

I remember when the Matrix movie came out. A lot of Christians I knew and went to Bible school with were saying that they though that God was saying something through the movie. They pointed out a lot of good analogies to the kingdom of God in the movie. There were certain things in it that really were quite easily employed as like a parable of the Bible's teachings. My friends and I would just ask these people why they couldn't just read the Bible and pray for revelations from God. The Bible is the most pure revelation that God has and will ever give.

The answer is that many Christians are just seeking to justify worldly lusts with their walk with God. Maybe they are convicted of being so thrilled by the movie that they think that there needs to be some sort of justification for watching it. They are looking for something redeemable in movies when often times there is not anything there. I find it very difficult to justify the filthy language that is all too often in many movies. I feel the Holy Spirit grieved when I even hear people saying "What the helll" on the TV. I have to turn it off a lot of the time, no matter how interesting or entertaining the show is. I don't want to haphazardly grieve the Lord in me. If I do it too much, my heart will grow hardened and numb to His leadings.

I finally watched the Matrix this last spring just to see what all the fuss was over. I also have a DVD player that sort of filters out most or all or any swearing. The Matrix did have some Christian influence in it (as do many, many fictional stories. The gospel is a great story. Why not borrow from it to create a great piece of fiction?). The Matrix also had a lot of Buddhist ideology in it. This seemed more prevalent than the Christian overtones. It also had Hindu influences in the story. It really seemed like a modern amalgam of the story of Buddah than anything.

Why couldn't other Christians see this so easily like I did? Is it because Christians are usually ignorant of other religions? Or is it that Christians think that there is no way that such messages could ever be coming out of Hollywood (talk about putting you head in the sand)? Or is it that Christians are seeking to justify and Christianize any and all movies that they just like to revel in, in their flesh? Come on people, admit it. Star Wars is not Christian. Matrix is not Christian. Trivializing the occult like Harry Potter does in not at all Christian.

The defense is always "Legalism!" Any standard bearing is attacked for being legalist. Sometimes it is legalism. Sometimes it is honest spiritual wisdom and discernment. How can darkness and light have fellowship with one another? They can't. Niether can these fictional Hollywood stories be vehicles for the gospel. Any similarities are purlely coincidental. It is most likely that the author of the story was inspired by the stories in the Bible more than being inspired directly by the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit was so at work in these movies than there would be a lot more of Jesus and a lot less impurity in the films. Jesus is not speaking through films that are showing borderline pornography, female nudity, immorality, and just plain having people living in general as if there is no God, Bible, cross or day of judgment. This is nothing more than a subtle reinforcement of Satan's lie that there is no god but man and their is no truth but your own.

Paul did employ pagan poets in his reaching out the the Greek philosophers. Jesus and the rabbis did borrow from Greek mythology when they taught about hell/hades. But they only used these pagan teachings within a very limited context of capturing commonly understood concepts. Why go through a thorough Old Testament college course on the wrath of God and she'ol for the wicked when you can just say "Hades?" In the same way I could teach that the spiritual reality is sort of like to Matrix in a way, etc, etc. That is as far as it can reasonably be taken. You could similarly use the Lord of the Rings movies to illustrate a point to those who are familiar with the stories.

Just a footnote without going to far off,,,,,,From my studys I am finding out that mythology in many ways is real,,,,,,What I mean is,,,,,The fallen angels use to walk the earth,,,they came in connect with men (actually I believe Cains family got many of there Ideas from these angels) But men on the earth worshipped these angels as gods....

This idea would make a great movie also. But you already know that I believe these teachings are purely fictional, vovel misinterpretations of the Bible. The book of Enoch claimed such things and many other outlandish, unscritpural notions. To be sure, many times the demons and even angels have appeared to people, but only for a brief visit or encounter through which a message is conveyed or demonic orders or powers were issued. Prophets had a few angelic visions and/or encounters. Occultists can fast and pray for long periods of time and even offer up deplorable sacrifices in order to summon demonic entities to appear and speak or grant various powers. But to say that demons or angels have manifested and taught people anything other than to worship God or to believe in various false doctrines is nothing more than mythology.

The demons either want to possess us, mislead us or have us worship them. They are not interested in much else. They can't procreate or they would be mortal humans and nothing more. Man has been created a little lower than the angels. Angels always give a message to a prophet, rescue or help someone, or point people to the gospel. Angels don't just come to a city, get married and have kids and begin teaching people all the great magician's (God's) "secrets." That is just creative fiction.

Wiccans used to frequently (maybe they still do) accuse the authors of the Bible from stealing pagan ancient ideas. They claim that the virgin birth, the death and resutrrection, the concept of the son of God, etc, all come from ancient pagan mythology. It sounds reasonable, then you look into it. It is true that there are various similarities in certain pagan myths and the gospel. But the myths each greatly twist the story in ways that are in no way even remotely relatable to the historic events in the gospels. The life of Jesus was also prophecied by the Hebrew prophets hundreds of years in advance. These prophets did not rip off pagan myths in their prophecies. I could go on, but you get my point.

what sums it up for me is why is a synical women like your self coming to on line christian forums when you can be putting what your husband preaches into action

dont you dare twist what i said tsth and make me look to be the bad guy also why did you leave worthy forums boards tsth was it because sevral women were disagreeing with what you were leaving ? i am in regular contac with the ones who disagreed with you tsth you did cause a bit of strife with your posts you left on worthy and to see you doing this hear its shown me how unstable you are tsth

know is it in his truth hypocrite instead of in his love ? is this your new signiture tsth ?


go over ezekiel 18 tsth god only holds the soul responsible who sins not the children as you seem to think he holds the person who refues to accept him responsible

but when it comes to synical christians like your self tsth you say god holds our generation responsible

i care only for those who put what they hear into action and take what they hear to were they at least try to reach out to the ones cought in sin


go over the old testemant tsth barbaric acts of murder happend in the villages god wanted to wipe out



and you whine what the world watches tsth if the old testament was in full effect today you would not be saying what you are saying to me you would be stonned for trying to correct a man and your husband would be rebuked for not being able to keep his own wife under control

i say go over the old testament again and let it sink in violence rape sex drinking grumbling worshiping false gods its all their tsth


for know on tsth i dont want to hear what you have to say dont reply to me if some thing i leave does not agree with you i have told you this before tsth know i am asking you tsth dont respond or twist what i leave


your are a synical judgmental women tsth


you cant tell me you can shield your kids from the real world as i said get rid of your tv in your home dump your vcr and dvd player and dont bother reading the paper

what the world does and what a parent does who is a non believer is none of your concern tsth how a parent raises their kids up is none of your concern tsth what you have give it to the home less you said you minister to if you cant shut up and dont try to make me look to be the bad guy tsth you dont know nothing about me you have no real face to face contac with me tsth to be saying this

what i care about is this christians preaching the true gospel christ preached and if you think for one moment the true gospel christ preached is being preached in this forum i wish the old testament was in full effect i would be the first one to pick up a stone and stone you to death

dont you dare say the gospel gods son preached is evident in this fourm if its evident why all the hate why all the fear why come down on a man who is about to be your president oh let me guess he is pro choice so you come to on line christian forums instead of praying for his salvation were you ask god to guide strong christians into his path you run him down

i am on to you i have been on to you from the day i joined worthy forums tsth sevral members do want me to come back including sevral of the worthy watch men

i tell you you would not survive if we had the old laws and if what paul said in 1 corinthians 14 was in full force tsth you would be silent to were you keep away from on line forums and listen to your husband i feel more for the women the poor women were not alowed to speak if they had a question it was the husbands responsability to respond and guide his wife

i know what paul would be saying to you tsth if he ever was able to get a chance to use a computer find him self hear read what is left in this fourm paul would be rebuking you

amazing how you know use in his truth tsth instead of in his love is in his truth a new faze hypocrites hide behind to show others that they are in the league ?





Damo

Resident Evil is a cool horror flick. Actually it's not horror.. more like, action, sci-fi, creature horror/violence. Lot's of guns, bombs, explosions.

Probably not for kids though. Adults yes, kids not so much.

hay brother jeff whats up

Grudge 1 and 2 cool one to watch saw 1 to the new one 5 antother cool one too watch

resident evil is a good one its for **** like i am dealing with hear its not real horror as you say jeff

i am watching rush hour 3 later on seen it 4 times know love it when they hit the french cop who gives them the phone book treatment when they land in france you take the right i take the left whack and down goes the frog eating cop


what puzzles me is this with the likes of tsth and the other holy ones evil is around us 24 / 7 every day some one is killed a child is raped or some one cought for down loading child porn or a teacher is charged for having sex with one of there students

we have kids dying in poor countrys we have kids in the philippines in need of genuine caring people who wil sponcer them we have kids we know who are in need of an education but we need sponcers first

and hear is nun tsth teling me as long as it stays away from me i dont care what she sees

what is a ministers wife doing in a video store and why is she prying at what non believers hire from a video store ?

the kids in the philippines and in my country yugoslavia have seen evil at its best but i dont hear the hand up or help being offered to the ones in real need

as long as this pious lot like tsth have the inter net that gives them a chance to preach their rubbish no wonder the world is falling appart


cant weight to see saw 5 who knows might come to your country put a mask oh get two sworn off shot guns and a chain saw and go on a pious killing spree take out the fridgets and pious lot who pry into our personal lives

we have hungry sharks and crocks in australia and no police were i go hunting and fishing just mother nature and the crocks and dingos and the wild pigs and the odd snakes


wanted pious and religous and legalist christians free tours for keen sight seeing geeks any takers ? we issue you a wil as you board the bus and get you to fill the will out no guarantee of your personal life but i can promise you you wil have a blast and so wil our wild animals who want fresh blood and fresh new bones to sharpen their teeth on weather you go to hell or heaven its up to god not me or the wild animals in australia

seeking only pious religous and fridget christians




cool ad bro this is what i am looking at putting on line




Damo

Sup Damo!

Some people aren't aware of the freedom that is in Christ I think. Horror and action movies never bothered me or my conscience. I grew up on the streets. I saw more blood in real life than in a movie ever! LOL!

Like I said earlier, to each person what their faith allows them.

As for awesome movies... I like, Dawn of the Dead the remake, The One with Jet Li, Serenity, District B-13, A History of Violence was good. Anything that is Action and well made, I like. Not so much with slasher movies. I never liked watching people get hacked up. Made me queasy! LOL. Love the action movies though! Uzi machine guns and lots of explosions. Lol.

We'll have to hook up with some good movies if I ever get out to the Philippines. Have a good time over there btw.

Peace!

hay jeff whats up

yes i know what you mean i saw the same living on the streets in kings cross coming across junkies with needles hanging out in their vains seeing the odd dead home les person

gun fights hearing gun shots dodging bullets and doing what i could to protect my self


the clubs i worked in i saw a lot girls getting bashed guys being thrown head first down a flight of stairs guys craping them selves and you have to clean the crap up


i saw this in yugoslavia my dad saw worse and so did his brothers and his own father and now my brother vladko is witnessing what my dad and his brothers and his father and i saw i had to watch out for land minse hide when the serbs would come through if i was in the forest going for my walks i had to watch out for bears bro and land mines and traps that wer set up by the serbs


a ministers wife has no right being in a video store she should be in a christian store hiring out dvds if she cant handle what is hired in normal video stores

i like action i like the blood and guts movies there is a good one that is being played made in new zealand zombi one were they come out of the water and attack and eat suspecting victems

i like vampire movies blade 1 to 2 buffy fan and i like angel willow is my best actor seen her in american pie one to 4

triple x one and two

the one you mentioned i have not seen it yet Dawn of the dead


i like action games to war games and kiling ones were you get given a gun or hand gun and build your weapons up i like racing games and kick boxing games

when it comes to movies jeff action like you horror like you but no blasted romance movies i hate these sort of movies seen house 1 and 2 ? were the ghosts control this old mental institution ? and it locks down at a certain time and you dont get let out until the next day ?


i like going into old haunted houses and siting back and listening one house i walked into i sat down and you can tell it was haunted the widows smashed the door next to me would open and slam real hard i heard foot steps the hairs on my back did stand at attention but i dont let the dead scare me its the living you have to worry about bro

we wil do that i wil have blue ray set up and our own tv and dvd player in our home


just hope my new wife has a good sence of humer i am a practical joker when night mare on elm street came out i was in a youth refuge in spring wood we watched 1 to 3 on elm street one of my mates girl friends went to make coffee for us she had a tray and the coffess on the tray i hid behind the couch and he tapped me when she was coming trying to keep a straight face and i was trying not to crack up soon as she got close he touched me on my head twice i jumped up from behind the couch and she dropped the coffee and screamed we were cracking up we paused the video the youth workers were not at home so we had no one to supper vise us they would trust us and only suppervise us threw the day she learnt when it comes to me


i know what you mean each to there own but this pious lot loves to pry into our personal lives saw 5 you wil love bro

we have a cartoon out hear its not been on tv two koalas with a chain saw and bong next to them al you see is the smirk on the koalas and the chain saw in their hands attacking the tree lovers and greenies




Damo

I take it that you don't really care if little kids see these images because their parents are lost and expose them to this? It makes me so sad to think of an innocent young child seeing one of these movies for the first time. It truly breaks my heart when I think of all the ways that innocence is stolen away from them by the things that adults have approved of. It is so damaging to their thoughts.


And then there is the issue of being Christian. So, do you really think that Jesus would watch these types of things for entertainment???!!!!


Come on.........really.


2 Cor. 6:14.......... For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?


Seriously.


In His Love,
Suzanne

stop being so pious tsth as i said what the world does is none of your concern if you want to put your faith into action we have 4 kids in the philippines wanting an education we need sponcers how about it you can leave this in cyber land but when i challange you you put in his truth and give me a scripture passage i know so well

kids in my country have seen evil at its best tsth


dont you dare leave this rubbish trying to make your self look holy

as i said dont ever attack me or try to make me look stupid under the old testament laws tsth you would have been dealt with and your husband would have been rebuked


if its only cyber land you can be vocal i feel sorry for you and the likes of you


we have kids as i said in need of sponcers every time i talk to pious christians like your self trying to raise up support for what my fiancee is doing in our community this is the responce i get


know do you really want me to get to a point were i rebuke you tsth


as i said you dont know me to be leaving this


my son has been brought up right we dont sheild him from the real world and i know other parents who have done the same

got to go have other things to do i am serious what the world does is none of your concern tsth what a parent does is none of your concern and dont you dare tel me you care and the real gospel christ preached is being preached hear






damo

thought so weighted for a repsonce since i am use to dealing with pious christians

when the real need or a plee is asked of christians to help kids like the ones in our church who my fiancee comes in contac with every day rich dim wits who are pious like the ones i am dealing with hear can only be vocal in cyber land

i dont come hear to be vocal i put what i hear into action and i wil be preaching the whole month i am in the philippines going to sevral crusades and preaching in the mens jail


i dont need cyber land were i can be vocal and i dont need pious christians pleading asking me am i being serious dont i care for the little ones

the little ones i care for are the ones in the comunity our church is planted these little ones have nothing no tv no computer no second set of clothes they wear what they have or what is handed down to them from our bin in our church christians from with in bacolod donate their clothes and we wash and hang them up and dry them out and give them out to kids and familys in need


i asked tsth to put her faith into action and any one who is serious contac me send me a pm message i wil make sure you get up dates of the child you sponcer i wil send you progress reports i wil send you photos we do what world vision does
these kids in my fiancees care only get one meal a day their parents live on $1dollar a day


i want to rip into tsth i want to let loose in this topic but i dont want to do that i am letting god deal with tsth and every time she leaves me what she leaves me i rebuke it

our members live in run down shantys while tsth has a nice home clean clothes food on the table a car what ever she needs its provided for she is safe she does not have to put up with a dirt floor or seeing a kid cry or hearing a kid scream in pain

or seeing kids beg for money from people like my self who visit their country

men from abroad take advantage the filapino women are beautifal loyal caring yet dim wits from america my country and other countrys exploit them use them as ther sex slaves get them pregnant and do the bolt when they are told that the women or young girl they have been having sex with has fallen pregnant


keep your views to your self tsth you are very pious and i have no respect for you i leave you in gods hands




Damo

old sky hooks song australian band lead singer died in a plane crash



HORROR MOVIES RIGHT THEIR ON MY TV


and a saying damo goes by horror movies wil be around for ages just go over the old testament i am supprised no director has had the guts to make a move from the old testament only the 10 commandments have been directed and played on tv life of sampson has been on tv


what i want to see hit our screens is all the idol worship all the sex all the violence all the men david slayed and women and kids and animals that were slayed i want to see the old tetament come alive on the big screen even incest is a no no but its evident in the bible i want the world to see the angry god i had shuved down my throat by the catholic priests and nuns i want to see the two daughters getting their father drunk so they can fall pregnant i want to see real live action sword fighting i want to see david come to life on our big screen no un cut version due to the audiance not being able to handle it


the public can handle it trust me


i want to see sodom and gomorah as it was un cut everythng that happend right to when the angels were sent


pious christians who have their head in the sand sheild there kids from what unfolded in the old testament and only give the half cocked version i am hearing preached when it comes to the gospel christ preached


i want to see davids own son turn on his father i want to see a sister being seduced by her brother


and when a question is put though shalt not watch horror movies out comes the pious replys like i am reading know from my side of the world

hold on i have to blow my trumphet let my neighbours hear that they have a pious christian living next to them better put my holy robe on and pious crown and get ready to be greeted i want to be seen as the phairsees were treated by the people in the villages they lived in in jesus time when he was walking the earth



when it comes to what unfolded in the old testament we are al ok with this


but when it comes to what the world watches we are not ok with this violence is around us 24 / 7 and hear i have a christian teling me she sheilds hear kids from the real world wel i have a badge ready to be delivered with your name and a religous uniform that can be payed for and delivered to your door step ready for you to were so everyone in your neighbour hood knows they have a religous geek living in their street who wants to pry and then comes on line and tells us al what is wrong with the world and asks us why we dont care for the little ones

we al have kids tsth and i can tel you the kids i know are not like your kids to were you shield them from the real world



Damo

Would Jesus watch what he wanted? I would. What would be the point of being a son of God if you couldn't do what you wanted?


Rom 8:21 that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.

It's called freedom.

Matthew 18:3
“Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.


Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient:

all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

1Cor 10:23

Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right,

whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute,

if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise,

dwell on these things.

Phil 4:8

Jesus was in the thick of it look at the old testament genocide when god ordered for a certain tribe that was a threat to his people he gave orders to wipe that tribe out wipe its animals and leav nothing


look at the flood only noah his sons his wife and the animals and the plants that god told him to take survived


look at sodom and gomorah angels in action


when the coliseum of rome was built spectators some times became part of the show

you saw gladiators battling it out you witnessed christians being killed by lions

although the typical coliseum of rome combatants were trained gladiators convicted criminals and prisoners of war and christians captured occasionally glory seeking idividuals volunteered to fight often they were overrated their skills and suffered the consequences

unsuspecting spectators were also tossed in one emperor ordered his guards to toss unsuspecting spectators into the arena for various reasons

i would not like to be on the bad side or in his black book


one emperor participated


commodus was the only emperor to fight in the coliseum of rome he did this many times he killed but was never killed yet his matches were rigged by selecting opponents who were un armed poorly skilled or physically impaired he is the person portrayed as the malicious emperor in the acadamy award winning movie Gladiator

one of my best movies along with 300 and lord of the rings i am a lord of the rings fan

the ones hear who hate what the world watches and what non believers alow their kids to watch

what happend in rome can happen in the near futer

its as if these lot dont care when it comes to what is happening in india or hearing bountys have been put on pastors and christians have been also ordered to be killed and their homes burnt down '

thank god for cyberland and thank god for our countrys we are safe we can surf the web through the week go to church on sunday hear a good sermon than come back on line


i am thank ful my dad decided to move us from yugoslavia to australia and tsth thinks i dont know what i am talking about because she lives in the land of the free were she wil never see what i have seen or what my fiancee people have witnessed and my in laws





Damo

So Be it of the truth!

At least there are a few here who are not ashamed of the Word and at least try to exalt that above their own opinion or definition of righteousness for themselves.


Pro 27:20 Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Wow, This thread has brought out the flesh!

I have just read people calling other people "****" and "pious." So if you disagree with people on this thread, you are a "pious ****." I wonder what category Jesus would fall into, according to the judgments of some here. Hmmm....

What would Jesus say if he came to post here?

yeah.. i was thinking.. the guilty person not only needs his mouth washed out with soap,
but his heart washed out tooo..

for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh!

or rather as James said it:
"Does a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree... bear olive berries? Can a vine bear figs? So neither can a fountain yield both salt water and fresh...." (James 3:11-12).

by their fruits ye shall know them..
shame!!

That was pretty funny. But, I played Army when I was kid. Seeing that I'm still a kid, I still like it, except, I just watch it on tv, lol.
Kids like army stuff. At least the boys do! LOL. This is a guy/girl issue. Lol. If the guys can't watch army movies, then, I guess the girls can't watch... Martha Stewart, LOL. As a musician/artist, I like the artistry involved also. Depends on how much freedom one knows they have in Christ. If your conscience bothers you, turn it off. Or, if the Holy Spirit convicts you, definitely turn it off. He's never convicted me of watching action so I'm not too worried about it. I love action. Good for the boredom also. What's a single guy gunna do!

1Co 10:29 Conscience I say, not thy own, but the other's. For why is my liberty judged by another man's conscience?

I know mine's not!

I think Jesus would say, do what you think you can, in faith. Lol.

As for the P word, I think in the country of the poster, it has a different connotation.

I looked up the definition
1.a cat, esp. a kitten: pet name or child's term
2. (Informal) a catkin, as of the pussy willow
3. (Slang) a person, esp. a boy or man, regarded as weak, timid, etc.

Like a fag is a ciggy in Britain lol.

I hope that **** meant something other than "femenin wimp, spineless man." I just have never heard it from another culture's meaning. How would calling someone a "cat" be meaningful?

At any rate, I understand the faith part of this. I just don't see how any amount of faith can justify finding yourself being entertained by Freddy Kruger mutilating people or stuff like that without any qualms of conscience, not to mention the T & A frequently spiced in.

I think Damo is Australian by way of Croatia. I think they have their own idioms. Lol

As for movies, I would say it's up to the faith of each person/individual. If they're not convicted, then, what can I say?

If a believer is freely entertaining themself with a movie that inappropriately shows sex and lewd nudity, you can say what Jesus said, "anyone who looks at a woman with lust in his heart has commited the sin of adultery."

Also, "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared," 1 Tim 4:1-2.

A person may not feel conviction because their conscience is "seared" in that area. That is what the "work of the Law" is supposed to work on: establishing conviction of sin where there is none yet. I know I would feel a piercing grief in my heart if I were to see something detestable or gory or murderous like Freddy, Jason, or other horror flicks. To trivialize murder, the human body (the image of God), death, pain, suffering, the occult, magic and witchcraft, etc, is the the agenda of God's Holy Spirit. That is why it is not legalism to say that indulging your sould in entertainment in these things is sin. It is sin because it is grievious the the Holy Spirit of God. It is sin because it is spiritual "pork and shellfish" for your spirit. It is defiling. If there is sincere and heartfelt prayer about this than you will understand, I believe.

The Holy Spirit will not betray the moral principles and templates that Jesus and the Law have established. The Spirit who inspired Moses to command that blood be covered, a priests legs' nakedness be covered while on duty at the temple, and a body is not to hang after the first sundown, will not change today and grant the freedom and blessing on us to enjoy ourselves watching a demonized lunatic murder people, tear people apart, etc. The Spirit who demands that nakedness is covered will not bless us to watch women getting naked or having sex or anything that is suggestive of those things. It is not mysterious what the will of the Holy Spirit is in these things.

Imagine Jesus coming over to a man's house. "What shall us singel guys do tonight Jesus?" "Well, let's see. We can watch the Friday the 13th or Faces of Death marathon thats on tonight. I'll get us some brews and we can all hit off a joint or two whille we lounge. Just not too much. "All things in moderation" you know." But Jesus, shouldn't we do something, I don't know, a little more wholesome?" "Naw. My friend Paul said "All things are permissable." As long as the Holy Spirit doesn't convince us its wrong, its OK!" "But what would Moses and the prophets say if they were here?" "Moses, shmoses! He got all totally legalistic and bend out of shape with his religious self when the people were worshiping the golden calf. He should have rebuked their idolotry, broke the calf and then made the party inot a feast for Yahweh. Haven't you noticed? Whenever God's presence showed up, a party soon errupted."

You get the picture. I write this half jokingly. But many people wincerely follow a Jesus like this. This is not the Jesus of the Bible.

When I first became a Christian about 17 years ago, I started going to a home group. One night the question was asked if anyone wanted to confess anything. I asked, or said, "I notice cute girls sometimes, is that a sin?" LOL. They all totally laughed. I was totally worried about it even though it wasn't a lust thing. Just a single young guy going, wow, she's fine! LOL. I suppose if no one did that, no one would get married! They said not to worry because it was just a normal guy thing. LOL. Which would beg the question, how do single people commit adultery, lol. If "lust" never enters the picture, I think it's just a normal function God put in us. Even the OT guys went for the hotties if I recall correctly, lol.

Lol. Where did drugs enter into the mix? Anyone who watches shock movies is on drugs! Lmbo.

can you feel the love hear can you feel the pious religous remarks


Eli **** means wimp us aussies use this a lot especialy aussie males who are strong use pussy when we see guys who are weak or a guy having a dummy spit or some dude being all new age


tel me something how do you prottect your self from what you hear when you are walking down the main street in your part of the world you live in ?

or dont you come across foul language and hearing guys giving out wolf whistles when a good looking chick walks buy


i thought you american males would have heard **** being ussed their you go you learn something new everyday



how about you eli keep the pious remarks to your self



do you eli place your hands over your ears and cover your eyes when you are out in the public ?

do you eli when working with un believers become all pious and say i am a christian please dont swear around me

do you eli tell the un believers to take of the nude picks you see in change room because you are a christian and it offends you ?


as i said its all in the old testament and we seem to be ok with this


if you have something to say eli say it other wise dont go on saying i dont know what a christian gets by watching night mare on elm street

just like the pic you left eli thinking you can bring me around to were i support you pro life christians remember that pic eli i can paste it and leave it in this topic and we can say talk why its ok for some one who is pro life to use pics like the one you left in is abortion sin by bf smith


yet when it comes to horror movies it offends eli it offends tsth so when people read what i have left tsth are you putting tsth under your wings eli and trying to shame me out for watching horror movies ?


as i said if you have anything to say eli speak up other wise dont judge what a person does

when i am in my own home i do as i please eli i listen to what i want to listen to and i watch what i want to watch


if you want i can paste that pic of the decapitated baby and while i am at it i can put a pick that i have 5 christians having their heads cut off and a women being stonned to death al you hear is her begging for her life the last rock that is thrown at her she says nothing they throw one more rock to make sure she is dead


thank the old testament laws eli dont blame the muslims for ussing an old law god gave out instructions and moses followed through


so eli do you think its ok for kids to witness say what i saw in yugoslavia and what is happening know and the ones who survived the rwandan genocide were dogs were eating the humans that were lying on the road

think for one moment what war does to a person

those who only see what i experianced in real life on tv would not understand and can not understand what its like to look out for land mines hide when you hear that the serbian army is patroling or look out for traps that are set to hurt us or criple us for life

amazing what you and tsth are ok with eli as i said i can bring that pic of the decapitated baby and i can do better leave some real horror picks were you see nothing but bones and a child begging for money saying i need food i need food please help mr




but if you want to be say pious and religous go right ahead eli i dont care or wil i listen to what you have to say


for know on eli if you cant handle how i approach things dont go on being all religous and its the same to he is faithful you to if you have anything to say speak up or shut up say damo you have a bad mouth you need to wash it out with soap instead of being all holy on this forum

so if its ok for tsth to call me out and when i challange her eli and he is faith full cant handle it i had my mouth washed out with soap and i wil not do it to a kid or wil i wash a kids mouth out with soap and black pepper like my grandmother did with me thinking it would stop me swearing she did not want me swearing like my dad or her son yet i learnt from my dad and her son who is my uncle


double standards dont you think eli


researcher if you are reading what i have left eli is calling me out or trying to make me feel bad he has not been around aussie christian males i have friends who are bikes and they are christians and when we get together we dont tip toe or say sorry bud if something i said has offended you


eli does not like me drilling tsth so he is know going to stand up for tsth that is why he said wow the flesh is so evident in this post when i said to tsth if you think the real gospel christ preached is being preached in this forum think hard

eli and tsth dont like me because i dont support them or say amen see these two are pro life supporters jeff and i hold no respect for pro life supporters


come on eli if you have anything to say be a man i know the type of punk you were i know the type of clothes you use to were i belted a punk who had all black clothes on thick black lip stick and his nails were painted black

when i finished with him he did not say wog or spit at me when he saw me walking down the street he crossed over and said nothing he too thought he was cool and tuff until i taught him a lesson


just because you cant see me eli i am a real person and i am like this in real life



Damo

I put the weed in the picture because often times "moderate" use of drugs is condoned in the name of "freedom." I wold not suspect that you or others here are that type. But I have very frequently run into this mentality in real life. One false "freedom" is often associated with many others. Too often, this use of "liberty just end up taking the believer into a lifestyle that is totally devoide of any semblance of a person who is born again. Eventually, may of these end up in a blatant sinfull lifestyle, be it homosexual, drugs and/or alchahol, living with a member of the opposite sex, etc.

Noticing that a girl is very good looking is no sin at all. Undressing her and doing other things with her, be it in your mind or in real life, is sin. Watching a woman undress or doing sexual things is nothing but lust. I can't see how any psychologically healthy man could watch that and not feel unclean, tempted or give in to lusting. I think that the actress who played Esther in the movie "One Night With the King" is beautiful. That is different than watching a beautiful actress taking off her clothes and geting hot with another person (or something like that). I think you get the message.

The Bible says that Bathsheeba was bathing and David watched her and that she was beautiful. It does not go into a description of her body, their sexual escapades or anything of the sort that would stir up lust.

read what i have left eli and in the futer dont cower or be all religous if you have anything to say speak up eli

you know were i stand and you should know by know i dont suck up to no one or do i tap anyone on the shoulder and say amen preach it i agree


you have your ways i have my ways eli does this give you the right to ram your views down some ones throat who does not support what you hold on to double standards dont you think eli especialy the decapitated pic you put of the baby being decapitated in bf smiths old topic is abortion sin why is it ok for you to place pics like that judge mothers and young women who are about to have an abortion and come against what a person watches in their own home


so nice to see religon having its say eli hay that baby pic would look good on a t shirt eli have you thought of doing that and then walk down the street so every one can see that pic you showed hear in bf smiths topic

have words in bold saying i am a born again christian i am pro life and in bold say abortion is sin


wonder what reaction you would get eli ?





Damo

read what i have left eli and in the futer dont cower or be all religous if you have anything to say speak up eli

you know were i stand and you should know by know i dont suck up to no one or do i tap anyone on the shoulder and say amen preach it i agree


you have your ways i have my ways eli does this give you the right to ram your views down some ones throat who does not support what you hold on to double standards dont you think eli especialy the decapitated pic you put of the baby being decapitated in bf smiths old topic is abortion sin why is it ok for you to place pics like that judge mothers and young women who are about to have an abortion and come against what a person watches in their own home


so nice to see religon having its say eli hay that baby pic would look good on a t shirt eli have you thought of doing that and then walk down the street so every one can see that pic you showed hear in bf smiths topic

have words in bold saying i am a born again christian i am pro life and in bold say abortion is sin


wonder what reaction you would get eli ?


Damo
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Damo, I can just feel the love and mercy all over me. LOL