"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But His delight is in the law of the Lord; and in His law doth he meditate day and night." Ps 1:1,2

"The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them is Thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward." Ps 19:7-11

"The law of God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide." Ps 37:31

"I delight to do Thy will, O my God: yea, Thy law is within my heart." Ps 40:8;Jer 31:31-34; Heb 8:10 (The New Covenant is the Old Covenant engraved upon our hearts and minds.)

"Give ear, O My people, to My law: incline your ears to the Words of My mouth." Ps 78:1

"Blessed is the man whom Thou chastenest, O Lord, and teacheth him out of Thy law." Ps 94:12

"As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions ("of the law" 1 John 3:4) from us...To such as keep His Covenant, and to those that remember His commandments to do them." Ps 103

"Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord...Open Thou my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of Thy law." Ps 119:1,18

"Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me Thy law graciously...Give me understanding, and I shall keep Thy law: yea, I shall observe it with my whole heart." Ps 119:29,34

"So shall I keep Thy law continually forever and ever...Horror hath taken hold upon me, because the wicked that forsake Thy law." Ps 119:44,53

"Let Thy tender mercies come unto me, that I may live: for Thy law is my delight...O how I love Thy law! It is my meditation all the day." Ps 119:77,97

"I hate vain thoughts: but Thy law do I love...It is time for Thee to work: for they have made void Thy law." Ps 119:113,126. "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Rom 3:31

"Rivers of water run down my eyes, because they keep not Thy law...Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and Thy law is Truth." Ps 119:136,142

"I have longed for Thy salvation, O Lord: and Thy law is my delight." Ps 119:174

"For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life." Pro 6:23

"Keep My commandments and live: and My law as the apple of thine eye." Pro 7:2

"The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death." Pro 13:14

"They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them." Pro 28:4. "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity (lawlessness) and idolatry..." 1 Sam 15:23

Jesus said, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not My Words, hath one that judgeth him: the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 12:48

The Apostle Paul wrote, "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." Rom 2:12,13

His Word/His law shall judge each one of us. Do you want His Word/His law to judge you?

Or, do you want to hear Him say, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant?"

"And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him." Heb 5:9

"He did away with the law of the commandments in regulations" (Eph. 2:15),

When Jesus gave us the "Two Greatest Commandments," He was quoting the law. Deut 6:5;Lev 19:18.

Are you saying, that, you can bow down to and worship other gods, take His name in vain, profane His holy day, dishonor your parents, murder, commit adultery, steal, bear false witness, covet and walk with a holy God? That would be blasphemous.

The Ceremonial law was fulfilled at the cross. Circumcision is now of the heart, washings are baptism, Jesus, the clean became unclean so that we may be clean. The Sabbath Feast Days were fulfilled:

PASSOVER: Our Passover Lamb
UNLEAVENED BREAD: He was withou sin
TABERNACLES: "He "tabernacled among us..."

If the Ceremonial law had not been fulfilled, we would, still, sacrifice animals.

CEREMONIAL LAW:

1. Is called, "the law contained in ordinances." Eph 2:15
2. Was spoken by Moses. Lev 1:1-3
3. Was written by Moses in a book. 11 Chron 35:12
4. Was placed in the side of The Ark (to show it's temporal nature)
5. Was nailed to the cross. Col 2:14
6. Was abolished by Christ. Eph 2:15


THE TEN COMMANDMENT COVENANT:

1. Is called the "royal law." Ja 2:8
2. Was spoken by God. Deut 4:12,13
3. Was written with the finger of God. Ex 31:18
4. Was placed inside The Ark. Ex 40:20; Heb 9:4
5. Is to "stand forever and ever." Ps 111:7,8
6. Was not destroyed by Christ. Mt 5:17,18

The Ten Commandment Covenant deals with our character and is used by the Holy Spirit in our on-going process of sanctification.

Even in heaven, the Lord makes quite a statement about His Covenant:

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple The Ark of His Testament: and there were LIGHTNINGS, and VOICES, and THUNDERINGS, and AN EARTHQUAKE, and GREAT HAIL." Rev 11:19

"And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation, unto all them that obey Him." Heb 5:9

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14

WOA there buddy!!! Christ didnt do away with the law thats all most blasphemy,,,,,,,,

Lets look at the verse you left:::::

Ephesians 2:15 "Having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

In other words; there is only one temple, one family, one way through Jesus Christ. If you think it means "the law doesn't matter anymore", your wrong............ The key to the understanding of this verse is stated," contained in ordinances". There is a difference between "the law", and "ordinances within the law".

This verse is directed to the ordinances of "blood sacrifice", also called "the daily sacrifices" that are within the law. These blood sacrifices are not required anymore. ever, because Jesus Christ's blood sacrificed on the cross satisfied completely that part of the law, before our Heavenly Father. Jesus was, and is the perfect sacrifice.........

LOL I didn't realize that the bible contained "almost blasphemous" statements. Hmm This says more about your way of reasoning, methinks, than call into question a biblical phrase. I wonder if you might reconsider that statement. You are at least practicing projection of your own fears on others.

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Well at least your response is better than nightmare's! The 10 commandments are plural....the royal law is singular....to love your neighbour as yourself (Jas. 2:8)

What is your agenda...sabbath keeping...male circumcision...kosher eating? Just what bondage would you bring us under this day?

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What fears would I have???????????I didnt say it,,,,lol,,,you did........I know Christ didnt do away with the law......

You said "He did away with the law of the commandments in regulations" and then based it upon (Eph. 2:15),

So Christ did away with the whole law huh???and then based it all on one verse Ephesians 2:15 "Having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of twain one new man, so making peace

I think not,,,, Christ only did away with blood ordinances and statues and sacrifices

The religious lawyers on this forum have not understood at all the perfect law of liberty (James 1:25)

They only see what is less than the law...and not what is greater than it or the spiritual accomplishment thereof. Such people have no spiritual experience or understanding, and lump others into the same carnal state as themselves in order to place a new bondage on others. Not all men have the faith which is from above. Rebuke such as these in their vain babblings!

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I only addressing your mis-use of scripture in saying Christ did away with the law and based it upon eph 2:15 sorry to say is a dumb statement that cant be proved and is not true,,,,,start a thread on how Christ did away with the law and based it on Eph 20;15 and see what you get......

My reasoning??????You say Christ did away with the law and got the nerv to bring up my reasoning

Actually I just posted a verse portion....the ghosts are in your own closet.

I said no such thing...you display your own projections. I uphold the law which you misunderstand.

The first four commandments of the law given at Hobeb, are spiritual laws concerning our relationship with God. Those who promote a literal sabbath would also worship idols in the spirit and justify themselves since they don't literally bow down to worship them. How blind!

One is not justified in keeping a literal sabbath, while ignoring the spiritual sabbath in Christ that the walk in the Spirit. Such have fallen from grace.

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Can you please stay on subject,,,,,,,,Do you believe that the law is still in full affect???????

You dont know me well enough to say this thus you cant start assuming stuff about ghost in a closet and all that jazz......

You made this statement::What is your agenda...sabbath keeping...male circumcision...kosher eating? Just what bondage would you bring us under this day?

What was your sarcastic point????????

1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and [of] a good conscience, and [of] faith unfeigned:

1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;


1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law [is] good, if a man use it lawfully;

1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1Ti 1:11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.


1Ti 1:12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;


1Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief.

1Ti 1:14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.


Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:

Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.



2Cr 5:17 Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. [/color]


Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but [color="#000080"]believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness [/color]


[color="#000080"]Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


Gal 3:11 But that[b] no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. [/b]

I was not adressing you. Are you Herald? This thread was started by a member called Herald. Are you speaking for him/her?

No im not but its a forum,,,so when you post to someone others have the right to inquire......So I was wondering whats your point???????

You asked what bondage is Herald bringing,,,,what bondage would this be???

The last 6 laws (of the 10) concern righteousness. We shouldn't even entertain a thought that is unrighteous towards our fellowman as Jesus further clarifies. The 2 tablets of the laws given at Horeb cover both great commandments which are to love God and our neighbour. Holiness is built upon righteousness, as both are required to be both called and chosen in God's kingdom. So then love accomplishes the law on all counts!

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Since this a forum, as you say, I will let another answer for me!

Circumcision was a part of the Ceremonial law, so was the abstaining from unclean meats.

In Psalm 119, the word, "Word," is used interchangeably with, "law," "commandments," "judgments," "precepts," "statutes,""Testimonies..."

His Word = His law

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I will put My Spirit within you and CAUSE YOU to walk in My statutes, and ye shall keep My judgments and do them." Ezek 36:26,27.

When He puts His Spirit within us, we are empowered by His Spirit to obey His Word/His law. The Holy Spirit will never lead us into sin, or, "The transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW. And ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin.

Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him nor KNOWN HIM (just as Jesus said in Mt 7:21-23)

Jesus said, "Not every one that saith, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (lawlessness)

"And hereby we do know that we know Him IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith, I KNOW HIM and keepeth not His commandments, is a LIAR and the Truth is not in him. BUT WHOSO KEEPETH HIS WORD, IN HIM VERILY IS THE LOVE OF GOD PERFECTED: hereby we do know that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked." 1 John 2:3-6

Little children let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the Devil; for the Devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose was the Son of God manifested, that He might destroy the works of the Devil.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the Devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." 1 John 3

When we walk in His Spirit we do not sin. It is when we fall back on the old ways, that we sin.

One of the last verses in the Scripture:

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14.

"And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation, unto all them that obey Him." Heb 5:9

weak very weak,,,,,,,,but not unexspected from you.......

Which law was nail the the cross
Ten Commandments Or Animal Scarifical Law

I would like for you brothers and sisters, to take the time read the whole entire topic, and keep in mind two laws we're talking about.

If there is no law there is no sin. Sin is not imputed or no blame can be accredited to any person when there is no law. But, in I John 3:4 it states, "whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So if the law was nailed to the cross that would mean its okay to use the Lords name in vain, put other gods before HIM, make graven images and bow before them, pollute the Sabbath day, steal, commit murder, commit adultery and bear false witness. If all these things are okay to commit, then we might as well throw the Bible out the back door and do what ever feels good to us.

Lets find out what law was nailed to the cross. We will see that Paul was in fact a law keeper and how he preached out of the Law and the Prophets. Now let's begin by taking a look at both of the laws and how they worked together. We will see there were two laws given to Moses, they were the commandments and the sacrificial law. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: (Leviticus 4:1-2)

The law in the scriptures above is the commandments. Notice something else very important in these two scriptures. It states, "if a soul shall sin through ignorance." Notice that the scripture did not says on purpose. Why? There is no sacrifice for a sin that is committed willfully. Let's find out what was to be done if a person committed a sin against the Lord unintentionally. Let's skip down to the 27th verse and take a look at the second law (which is the sacrificial law).

And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar.
(Leviticus 4:27-30)

When the common people sinned through ignorance and it came to their knowledge, what did they have to do? They brought an offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for their sin which they had committed, then the priest would offer the animal to the Lord. Think about this for a moment. If an animal was killed for a person that committed sin, what will happen to us today if we a trespass against the Lord? We will find that out later. Now we see how the
sacrificial law was used when a person broke a commandment unintentionally. Let's go into Paul's writings and take another look at both of these laws.

We will go into the Book of Galatians chapter 3. This is one of the chapters that the majority of Christian preachers use to do away with the Lord's commandments. Now, let's read carefully!
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. (Galatians 3:19)

Take heed to what Paul's says above, "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions." What is transgression? Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (I John 3:4) Transgression is braking of the commandments. What law was added because of the braking of the law? The sacrificial law! Paul is simply asking these Gentiles, "why perform the sacrificial law? It was added because of sin until the seed should come. Who is the seed? Let's back up in this chapter and find out.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, and to thy seed, which is Christ. (Galatians 3:16)
Who is the SEED? CHRIST! So, this law was added (which is the sacrificial law) until Christ came. What was the sacrificial law used for until Christ came?

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24)
The sacrificial law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Before we continue, we must clear one thing up. Are we justified by faith alone? Let's see. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Romans 3:31) What law is established? Certainly not the sacrificial law, we have seen above that it was added because of transgression until the Seed came (which was Christ).

The law established forever is the Lords commandments!
Now, let's back up in this chapter to the third verses and point out the two sets of laws.

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? (Galatians 3:3)
The spirit in this case is the word of God, but pay close attention to what Paul says at the end of the verse. "Are ye now made perfect by the flesh?" Can we be made perfect by the flesh? What flesh is Paul talking about?

Let's go to the book of Hebrews and find out. For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

The flesh Paul spoke of was the animal sacrifices. Notice what the verse says, "never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect." That's pretty clear don't you think? Let's go back to Galatians chapter 3 and take note how Paul uses the word "law" but does not say this is the sacrificial law or the Commandments. But as we read further in the chapter we will see the difference between the two.

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. (Galatians 3:10)

We have both Laws with in this verse. In the first part of the verse where it states, "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse:" This law is the sacrificial law, let's skip to the 13th verse and we will see this clearly.
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (Galatians 3:13)

Notice what's being said, "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us." How was he made a curse for us? He took on our sins and redeemed us from the curse of the sacrificial law which could never take away sin. Now take a look at the next set of verses and we will see indeed that only the sacrificial law was nailed to the cross.

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (Colossians 2:13-14)

Notice this, "He quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. Why was this law (which is the sacrificial law) contrary to us?

Notice this in Hebrews the 10th chapter;
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. (Hebrews 10:4)
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. That is why it was contrary to us. The sacrificial law simply could not make us perfect. Now let's look at the second half of the 13th verse in the book of Galatians chapter 3.

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (Galatians 3:13) Paul is simply quoting Moses, take a look.
His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. (Deuteronomy 21:23)

Go into the Book of John chapter 19 verse 31 and you will see that Jesus was removed from the cross before sun down. Let's back up in Galatians chapter 3 to verses 10 and watch how we have a different law in the second half of the verse.
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. (Galatians 3:10)

This law is part of the commandments. Once again Paul, is quoting Moses, let's take a look.
Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. (Deuteronomy 27:26)

Let's take a look at some of these laws in Deuteronomy 27th chapter.
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. (Deuteronomy 27:19-26)

After reading through some of these commandments ask yourself, what's wrong with these laws? If we say we are followers of the Lord shouldn't we keep ourselves from doing these things? Yes! If the sacrificial law was the only law taken away when Jesus was nailed to the cross, which would mean all the other laws are still intact.
Commandments, High and Holy Sabbaths, weekly Sabbaths and the Dietary law .

Very good! Now what about the sabbath?

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If you think, that, you can bow down and worship other gods, take His name in vain, profane His holy day, dishonor your parents, murder, commit adultery, steal, bear false witness, covet and make it into His kingdom, you will have a rude awakening on the judgment day.

Jesus said, "Not every one that saith, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, BUT HE THAT DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER, which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity (LAWLESSNESS) Mt 7:21-23

"He that saith, I KNOW HIM, and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR and the Truth is not in him. BUT WHOSO KEEPETH HIS WORD, IN HIM VERILY IS THE LOVE OF GOD PERFECTED..." 1 John 3-6.

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW." 1 John 3:4

"And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation, UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM." Heb 5:8

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14

How do you feel about the sabbath?

I applaud you herald for up holding the law, I agree 100%, but the feast day are not fulfilled.
We must keep this feast in there season, it represent the plan of God.

The plan of God is outlined in Leviticus chapter 23. When you begin to read this chapter you will find the Lord's weekly Sabbath and also the Lord's High and Holy Days. Each High Day has a very important meaning, and if you are familiar with them you simply know the plan of God

Leviticus 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, (verse 2) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Look at verse 2. Does it state the feast of the Jews, or the Feast of the Lord? These feasts are holy gatherings. These feasts are not a request, they are commandments.

Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

This a brief plan of God in Leviticus 23 chapter

Leviticus 23:44 And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
Did the verse say the feast of the Jews? No! It states, "Moses declared unto the children of
Israel the feast of the LORD! If you want to go in debt and deal with each Holy Day thats
find, we can do that.

Passover: The Passover represents the passing over of your sins, and the only
way your sins will be passed over is if you bring yourself under the blood of the Lamb.

Feast of Unleavened bread: On the 15th day of the month the Lord brought Israel
out of Egypt. The Feast of Unleavened Bread represents Israel's deliverance.
This is also a spiritual deliverance. Why? If the Lord would not have die for us, we would
still be in our sins.

Pentecost: This is the year the Lord will return and also the first resurrection.

Memorial of the Blowing of the Trumpets: It is to remind us what will take place
prior to the Lord's return, and also what He will do when He arrives.

Day of Atonement: This day represent the Lord making an atonement for our sins
and also the day He will stand on the earth.

Feast of Tabernacles: The day the Lord will start to gather Israel and all the people
that brought themselves under the banner of Israel.

The 8th Day That Great Day of the Feast: This represents the day when there are no
more flesh and blood people. Everyone who made the first and/or second resurrection
is now a spirit being with the father and Jesus in New Jerusalem.

The New Testament does not mandate the keeping of the Feasts, but, I know what you mean, there are, still, future fulfillments to them.

As long as there are sinners, the law must be upheld. The law is in effect as long as it is required. Walking in the power of the Spirit fulfills the law. Grace is a superior means of walking above sin...by the Spirit. If you walk in the Spirit, you cannot sin, since it is Christ that lives within you. Many have not experienced this or understand this. We need only focus on the law in our carnal state. The law does not give us the power to fulfill the law...hence we need God's help to do so by walking in His power.

By the Spirit we are thus free from all bondage. However, there are some who would have us brought into a new bondage according to the flesh....by keeping certain times...like the sabbath. A person who walks in the Spirit walks in a timeless eternal dimension. One cannot sin by not noticing what day it is. Noticing days is for those who strive to please God in their own strength. Trying to please God in one's own strength is not bad in itself, but becomes wrong when it seeks to replace the Way of Christ which is to obey the law through the power of the risen Christ...in His strength.

The bible is very clear on the importance of the law...as well as on the liberating power of the Spirit. People know that they are sinners....but do they know of the resurrection power available this day to rise above it?

Focusing on the law instead of Christ is merely proof of our own bondage. One does not obey the law by focusing on the law, but we fulfill the law when we focus on Christ. Of course we use the law to gauge the effectiveness of our walk.

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Because Jesus fulfilled the carnal observation of the law at the spring feasts in His flesh.
Physically died, rose, and fulfilled Unleavened Bread all in His flesh.

The fall feasts could only be fulfilled in the Spirit of Jesus in Heaven...

Look at Joseph, his garment was diped in the blood of a kid goat, Moises calls him a first born bullock (calf).

These are the two animals sacrificed in the Holy of Holies, where their blood is sprinkled on the mercy seat and in front of it, 7 times for the blood of the calf, and 7 times of the blood of a lamb of the goat flock.

Now the sacrificial system was taken away in the natural by Jesus so the sacrifice had to be done in the spirit (Holy of Holies).

Rev.5:6 And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne (holy of holies)and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

Jesus had to also redeem heaven, as Jesus redeems all creation. What Jesus fulfilled on earth He had to fulfill in Heaven.
He redeemed the flesh, the visible, Atonement foreshadows the redemption of the invisible, the eternal.

Luk 22:15 Then He said to them, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
Luk 22:16 for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God."

What Jesus fulfilled in the kingdom of this world (physical), He fulfills in the kingdom of God (spiritual, the invisible).

My two cents.

Jesus reconciled us with the Fatther on earth, now Jesus, after the resurrection, reconciles us with the Father in Heaven.

I think that there have been many misinterpretations of the place of the law in a believer's life. These have gone to many extremes one way and the other. You should read "In Pursuit of the Millennium" for a scary account of the immoralities, massacers and outlandish cults that have resulted from misinterpretations of the role of the law in a believer's life.

The law is eternal. It is righteous, It is good. All these teachings come from the New Testament, Paul's writings and the words of Jesus to be exact.

Paul explained the role of the law in a believer's life best. According to Paul, the Torah (law) for the believer is our relationship with God in Jesus through the Holy Spirit. Floowing the Spirit is what a son of God is identified by. This is the "Law of the Spirit (Romans 8:1-2). The Law has been radically transformed for us believers. It no longer has the power to condemn a person with faith since Jesus' sacrifice. The Law's sacrifices and ceremonies are no longer required for Israel (Hebrews 9:10). The outward, ceremonial aspects of the law are not in themselves sinful or bad. If the law or Torah inspired traditions are followed out of freedom and not compulsion, if they are followed out of looking back at the work of Messiah on the cross, they can be very edifying.

The law if fulfilled by Jesus (Mat 5:17). If we have a right relationship with Jesus, we are actually fulfilling the law. God is love. Love is the fulfillment of the law. The law being "done away with," in its context, is refering to the reality that the law's description of the sins that all mankind are giulty of have been eternally atoned for by Jesus sacrifice of the cross. The law demands justice, restitution and atonement. These have all been met on the cross through Jesus' sacrifice. Now, the laws demand for moral perfection, love and mercy are all given through our identification with Jesus in the New Covenant.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 said that under the New Covenant that God would change the dynamics of their relationship with God.

"31 Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, "Know the Lord," for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

So we see that, once the issue of sin is forever dealt with, a relationship with God will supercede the place of the written law in the believers' lives. "I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." "They shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest."

So, the nature of and role of the Law is what is done away with forever, not the law in and of itself. The Law is a like a desription of the very character of God Himself. It reveals his justice, mercy, love and holiness. But Jesus revealed the grace of God toward man in a way that the law and prophets were not capable of.

"For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known." John 1:17-18.

Moses and the prophets could not reveal/make known God in the way that Jesus did. Jesus demonstrated what it means for someone to be a son of God. He showed us what it means to be a man of God in the earth.

"So, the nature of and role of the Law is what is done away with forever, not the law in and of itself. The Law is a liited desription of the very character of God Himself. It reveals his justice, mercy, love and holiness. But Jesus revealed the grace of God toward man in a way that the law and prophets were not capable of"

>This the scriptures teach without a doubt

Excellent post!

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In Matthew 24:20, Jesus prophesied, that, the Sabbath would be kept during The Great Tribulation, and we are not there, yet.

Isaiah prophesied, that, God's people will keep the Sabbath in His kingdom:

"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith the Lord." Isa 66:22,23

"The Old Covenant was the Ten Commandment Covenant. Deut 4:13;Ex 34:38. It was based upon the promise of the people. Ex 24:7. The New Covenant is based upon the promise of God:

"But this shall be the Covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; after those days, saith the Lord, I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." Jer 31:31-34;Ezek 36:26,27;Mt 26:28;Heb 8:10 - an internal Covenant.

WHO is He speaking of? Paul answers, "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made, He saith not, And to thy seeds as of many: but as of one, And to thy seed which is Christ." "And if ye be Christ's, then are YE Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Ga 3:16,29

"Know ye therefore, that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Ga 3:7

"For he is not a Jew, who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Rom 2:28,29

The promises were made through Abraham to the children of promise (Rom 9:6-8), who are justified by faith - whether Jew or Gentile. Ga 3:7;Eph 2:12,13;3:6.

If we belong to Christ, then, we are Israel - so the promises belong to us.

God engraves the Old/New Covenant in our hearts and minds. That is why Jesus said, that, if a man looks upon a woman to lust, he has, already, committed adultery with her in his heart. Or, if we are angry with our brother without cause, we are in danger of the judgment. Mt 5:22,28

There was, only, one Covenant in The Ark - the Ten Commandment Covenant.

So, why would you separate the fourth commandment from His Covenant? The fourth commandment is just that - a commandment, not a request. If you do not keep the Sabbath holy, you are a transgressor of His law.

As I have stated before, even in heaven the Lord makes quite a statement about His Covenant:

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple The Ark of His Testament: and there were LIGHTNINGS, and VOICES, and THUNDERINGS, and AN EARTHQUAKE, and GREAT HAIL." Rev 11:19

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14.

"And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation, unto all them that obey Him." Heb 5:9

The Old Covenant was in the flesh, with the sign being in the flesh...through physical circumcision. The New Covenant is in the Spirit....just as the sabbath rest is in the Spirit.

What takes place in the New Age that is to come and what the saved righteous ones are required to do is yet in the future. It is a mistake to apply flesh regulations in a spiritual walk. Walking in the Spirit fulfills the law...period!

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As I have said, one of the final verses in Scripture is, "Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."