Yes if there are any bible scholuars out there I wan't to ask why does the KJ Bible have chapters missing that are in the catholic bible. The example it is there extra chapters in the Catholic one. One talks about Daniel mixing material together to make a dragon explode.

I read a Catholic bible years ago and noticed some things are left out of KJ.
http://www.biblekeeper.com/Douay-Rehims/daniel_14.php

Is this because the Dragons (Dinosuars) were extinct in England by this time? So it did make sence to the translaters?

Does anyone know if the old Hebrew scriputre the Jews read contain these two chapters or did the Catholics make them up? I would also ask what happend to the Jewish old testment after the Romans conquared them?

Jeff

hay Jeff its damo


hope fulley excubitor wil respond to you jeff but hear is what i want to leave



The catholic Encyclopedia says that their are seventy two books found in the catholic editions forty five in the old testament twenty seven in the new testament Protestant copies ussaly lack the seven books Viz Tobit Judith wisdom Sirach Brauch and first and second Maccabees and parts of book Viz Esther 10 . 4 16 - 24 and Daniel 3 - 24 - 90 13 - 1 14 - 42


translated into greek before the birth of christ which are not found in the jewish Editions of the old testament

there are only 66 books in my bible and any other bible


Actualy the eastern orthadox Bibles have even more books in their old testament


my dads side is orthadox croation and my mums side roman catholic


i did have the holy bible but i gave it to some one it was the origonal holy bible catholics use a unitting church elder gave this to me i went over it and said to him in churh its the very same one my mothers mother who was my grandmother had in her home and would read from my mums mother and her husband would take me to the catholic church in my village i grew up in jeff


excubitor wil be able to touch up on this more they read the old kings james bible jeff

i noticed this too but i said nothing i thought it could be to the vatican not wanting its members to find out what they have spotted so they cut it out or took out what they thought could lead ther members astray

you are not the only one that has noticed this jeff i wil ring my uncle to see if grand mother left him her origonal catholic bible but its not in english its in our own language



good luck jeff sit back and watch this topic of yours explode get the trench dug up put some old matresses around you wil need shelter and cover from the shrapnel


peace brother


Damo

CLICK HERE for some discussion about it.

My Internet connection is running really slow so I cannot verify exactly what I am writing here as I normally do. So I am going from memory here. My understanding is that when Alexander the Great ruled the world, greek became the most prevalent language. As a result the scriptures were translated by Hellenistic Jews (Greek speaking Jews) into Greek. This Greek Old Testament became known as the septuagint or the LXX after the number of the translators. At this time the vast majority of Jews were speaking Greek however they were despised by the Jews in the Holy Land who were purists and who stuck to the Hebrew text.

Now when the translation When the LXX was translated these extra chapters in Daniel were included as were a number of additional books. These additional writings are called the deuterocanonical which means "Second Canon". The reasons for these additional chapters and books being inserted is lost in the mists of antiquity by now. Suffice it to say that Hellenistic Jews considered them to be scriptures for hundreds of years before Christ. The apostles used these extra books and regarded the septuagint as scripture. And Christians for 1500 years considered them scripture. We can argue till we are blue in the face about their origins and the legalities of whether they should be considered scripture (and we do) but these above facts cannot be refuted.

Now consider the first 5 books of Moses. The last passages describe the death of Moses. Clearly these were not written by Moses and so were inserted by an unknown author after his death. Should we therefore consider them scripture? Yes we must because we have learned as a sacred tradition that they are part of the scripture. They same principle therefore applies to the deuteroncanonical books. However at the time of the reformation Luther severely discredited these extra writings and included them amongst the apocrypha (pseudigraphical works of spurious origin and content) At the same time he rubbished the book of James and even Hebrews. Much of the reason for this is that these books did not support his new doctrines (particularaly sola fide).

In England in ensuing years after the reformation the nation yo-yoed between being a protestant or catholic nation. In general it was not easy for the people to let go of their scriptures and indeed the first 1611 KJV and all previous english bibles included the extra books. King James however and many of the English protestants of his day increasingly deprecated the deuteroncanonical books calling them Popish books until finally they yielded and were dropped. You can still buy the apocrypha as it was translated by the KJV writers but to my knowledge it cannot be bought bound with the entire bible.

The protestants broke the authority of the Pope by appealling to the authority of scripture and then having broken free one of their first deeds was to strip entire books out of the Bible. Who or what therefore was in authority of the reformation?

ANSWER: SOLA SCRIPTURA. THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD... THE HOLY BIBLE... IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY. NOT A CATHOLIC CATECHISM; NOT A POPE WHO CALLS HIMSELF THE "VICAR OF CHRIST" ... WHICH IS AN ABOMINATION BEFORE THE GOD AND CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.

"All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
-2 Timothy 3:16-17

THE VATICAN, THROUGH ITS JESUIT PRIESTS, SEEK TO USURP THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION, A.K.A. AS THEIR "COUNTER REFORMATION" , WORKING TO FURTHER THE WORKINGS OF SATAN HIMSELF IN DIRECTING ALL TO WORSHIP LUCIFER UNDER A ONE WORLD RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT UNDER THE AUTHORITY AND SUBMISSION TO THE POPE... SAID VICAR OF CHRIST... WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE BLASPHEMY!

http://danielrevelationbiblestudies.com/02012006.htm

"And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."
-Revelation 17:4-6

A MIXTURE OF PAGANISM AND CHRISTIANITY PRODUCED THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. IT IS CLEAR THAT ONLY A DEFILED AND FALLEN CHURCH CHOULD BE MEANT. THIS IS MYSTERY BABYLON!


VATICAN-POPE AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopol...canpope_nwo.htm