Jeff Joseph
Nov 24 2008, 12:53 PM
I heard a guy on TV once say "Jesus never said anything about it being a sin to be gay". Yes he actually did though. All you have to do is look at what Christ said about Sodom and Gomorrh. He said they would have repented had they had him. Meaning he was saying they were sinning and what was one of the bigest sins in these to citys. Homosexuality was openly practised in these two citys and the evidence was when they wanted to rape the two Angles at Lots house.
I also love what a black man said about gays comparing there struggle to the Blacks. He said "don't compare your sin to my skin". That made me laugh my head off as I never heard that before and what the man was saying was the truth.
NIGHTMARE
Nov 24 2008, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (Jeff Joseph @ Nov 24 2008, 12:53 PM)

I heard a guy on TV once say "Jesus never said anything about it being a sin to be gay". Yes he actually did though. All you have to do is look at what Christ said about Sodom and Gomorrh. He said they would have repented had they had him. Meaning he was saying they were sinning and what was one of the bigest sins in these to citys. Homosexuality was openly practised in these two citys and the evidence was when they wanted to rape the two Angles at Lots house.
I also love what a black man said about gays compating there struggle to the Blacks. He said "don't compare your sin to my skin". That made me laugh my head off as I never heard that before and what the man was saying was the truth.
Actually when going back to the old testament,,,,,,,it tells you not to be gay staright up......
Jeff Joseph
Nov 24 2008, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Nov 24 2008, 11:57 AM)

Actually when going back to the old testament,,,,,,,it tells you not to be gay staright up......
I know that, this is for the people who say it not sin because "Jesus didn't say".
Bro.Tan
Nov 24 2008, 05:30 PM
What does the God of the creation think about homosexuality? He is very clear on identifying the act of homosexuality as a sin. If an individual sows iniquity, they will reap corruption. Those of us that believe and know the Truth are not careful to say…“There is a pestilence in the land because of ‘homosexual’ activity.” There has been an increase in the acceptance of homosexuality in our country as indicated by the figures collected by the U.S. Census. The U.S. Census Bureau reported that, “The number of American households reporting same-sex partners skyrocketed over the past decade.”
The Census counted 1,933 same-sex couple households last year in Vermont, up from an estimated 370 in 1990, a fivefold jump. Delaware had an even greater increase from an estimated 212 to 1,868 households, a nearly nine fold increase. Vermont and Delaware were the first states to receive the latest wave of data, with all 50 to get the material by late August. Four months before Vermont's civil union’s law took effect, the Census Bureau asked Americans questions designed to get the best picture yet of how many live with a partner of the same sex. Unmarried partner statistics in 1990 were based on a sample of responses; 2000 figures were based on a count of all households. Fewer than 5 percent of the country's unmarried partner households in 1990 were made up of same-sex couples.
Comparable numbers for 2000 will not be known until all state figures are released. As the statistics indicate there is a wave of acceptance of homosexuality in our country. Even though the masses may accept this let’s see what the Most High God thinks about this subject. We will take a look at the Law first. Once we have established homosexuality as being a sin, then we will look at the Lord’s wrath being poured out because of this abomination.
Let’s go into Leviticus the 20th chapter and read the 13th verse.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
“….they shall surely be put to death...”
Being that we are under the new covenant, which are the same laws that were given to Moses, no man is clean enough to put anyone to death, the Lord will take care of that Judgment.
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses (Hebrews 10:28.)
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31).
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Latter Rain Adam
Nov 24 2008, 07:30 PM
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Nov 24 2008, 11:57 AM)

QUOTE (Jeff Joseph @ Nov 24 2008, 12:53 PM)

I heard a guy on TV once say "Jesus never said anything about it being a sin to be gay". Yes he actually did though. All you have to do is look at what Christ said about Sodom and Gomorrh. He said they would have repented had they had him. Meaning he was saying they were sinning and what was one of the bigest sins in these to citys. Homosexuality was openly practised in these two citys and the evidence was when they wanted to rape the two Angles at Lots house.
I also love what a black man said about gays compating there struggle to the Blacks. He said "don't compare your sin to my skin". That made me laugh my head off as I never heard that before and what the man was saying was the truth.
Actually when going back to the old testament,,,,,,,it tells you not to be gay staright up......
Funny, "
Straight up."
But the OT does not say anything about being Gay. "Gay" is a modern term. The OT does get very clear about obstaining from homosexual sex and relationships.
Having temptations is not the sin.
NIGHTMARE
Nov 24 2008, 09:59 PM
QUOTE (Adam Weishaupt @ Nov 24 2008, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Nov 24 2008, 11:57 AM)

QUOTE (Jeff Joseph @ Nov 24 2008, 12:53 PM)

I heard a guy on TV once say "Jesus never said anything about it being a sin to be gay". Yes he actually did though. All you have to do is look at what Christ said about Sodom and Gomorrh. He said they would have repented had they had him. Meaning he was saying they were sinning and what was one of the bigest sins in these to citys. Homosexuality was openly practised in these two citys and the evidence was when they wanted to rape the two Angles at Lots house.
I also love what a black man said about gays compating there struggle to the Blacks. He said "don't compare your sin to my skin". That made me laugh my head off as I never heard that before and what the man was saying was the truth.
Actually when going back to the old testament,,,,,,,it tells you not to be gay staright up......
Funny, "
Straight up."
But the OT does not say anything about being Gay. "Gay" is a modern term. The OT does get very clear about obstaining from homosexual sex and relationships.
Having temptations is not the sin.
Come on ELI....
The bible is very clear about staying away from gay stuff!!!!!!
Deuteronomy 22:5 "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God."
You dont think God is talking about mere clothing do you???????????
Jeff Joseph
Nov 25 2008, 09:35 AM
Yes I do agree the temptation is not the sin its acting upon it.
Bro.Tan
Nov 26 2008, 07:30 PM
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: (Leviticus 18:22-24) Note what the scripture says, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” Note something else in this set of scriptures. “Defile not yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you.”
This statement should have a person shaking in their boots. When the Lord cast out the Canaanites, He sent the children of Israel into these countries to cast these nations out because of sin. The sons of Jacob did not go alone to do battle. His mighty angels went with them as long as they kept themselves from sin.
This is not a game sisters and brothers; the God of the creation is serious. When He returns at His second coming He will deal with man face to face. We must keep ourselves from willful sin. But, people try to make excuses for everything that is contrary to the word of God. As seen by modern medicine’s explanation of homosexuality: “With the birth of modern psychiatry, homosexuality came to be viewed widely as less a sin than a sickness. This attitude derived from unscientific research into the origin and nature of homosexuality, unscientific because based solely on studies of maladjusted psychiatric patients. Theories arising from such research suggested that disorders in family relationships, particularly mother-son relationships, give rise to homosexual behavior. Such theories, based on the assumption that homosexuals are necessarily psychologically abnormal, are not convincing. Quote from Grolier multimedia encyclopedia).
Why isn’t this thought convincing? Take a look at this verse in the book of James.
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished,
bringeth forth death. (James 1:14-15)
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