Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 06:23 PM
Don't listen to anyone that preaches words that come out of the book of Lambs.
It's the doctrine of demons.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
And you who fleece the sheep, you know who you are. Judgment is coming soon.
Jack777
Nov 23 2008, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 06:23 PM)

Don't listen to anyone that preaches words that come out of the book of Lambs.
It's the doctrine of demons.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
And you who fleece the sheep, you know who you are. Judgment is coming soon.
the
book of Lambs.What is it?
researcher
Nov 23 2008, 06:36 PM
I've never heard of that book. What is it?
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 06:40 PM
Book of Revelations = doctrine of demons
researcher
Nov 23 2008, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 03:40 PM)

Book of Revelations = doctrine of demons
? huh?
I think you might be thinking of another book not in the Bible.
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 06:47 PM
Trust me, I will have sound proof soon.
Jack777
Nov 23 2008, 06:47 PM
It is not The Book of Revelations
It is:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:1
Here Am I
Nov 23 2008, 06:49 PM
The book of Revelation in the Bible is God's Word!
researcher
Nov 23 2008, 06:52 PM
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 06:52 PM
Let me give you an example of the false teaching in the last book of the bible, called "Revelations"
It teaches a "second death" and a "second resurrection"
No where else in the entire bible, nor did God said there would be any second resurrection.
Men are appointed once to die and stand in the judgment of God. If you believe in Jesus Christ, you enter into his Glory in the Kingdom of Heaven. But those who do not believe enter in to Hell.
If there was a second death, then how do you explain we to will be in Christ ever see death again? And if we live for eternity, then what is this second death and second resurrection about?
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 06:59 PM
If you false prophets that preach this so called Doctrine of demons a.k.a. last book of Revelations concerning what is said above, then I rest my case and declare that indeed the Book of Revelation is the doctrine of demon that Jesus Christ mentions in the last days.
They will no longer heed sound doctrines, but will have itching ears to doctrines of demons.
kim48
Nov 23 2008, 07:05 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 07:52 PM)

Let me give you an example of the false teaching in the last book of the bible, called "Revelations"
It teaches a "second death" and a "second resurrection"
No where else in the entire bible, nor did God said there would be any second resurrection.
Men are appointed once to die and stand in the judgment of God. If you believe in Jesus Christ, you enter into his Glory in the Kingdom of Heaven. But those who do not believe enter in to Hell.
If there was a second death, then how do you explain we to will be in Christ ever see death again? And if we live for eternity, then what is this second death and second resurrection about?
HMMMMM again. Lets see, scriptures please telling us not to read a book in the Bible. I am anxious to say the least.
Go for it.
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 07:11 PM
Well, then can you tell me why there be a need of a 2nd resurrection? Or that there be a 2nd death? Prove to me that it is biblical? I've already proved to you that book is evil.
kim48
Nov 23 2008, 07:15 PM
Scripture please.
~Selah~
Nov 23 2008, 07:18 PM
Revelation 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
There is a blessing for keeping the words written in the Book of Revelation..I don't understand how it could be perceived as negative?
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 07:22 PM
Well, then answer why a 2nd resurrection and 2nd death is needed, or how it is biblical?
whirlwind
Nov 23 2008, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 08:22 PM)

Well, then answer why a 2nd resurrection and 2nd death is needed, or how it is biblical?
The second death is the death of one's soul.
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 07:28 PM
that is blasphemy. I profess Jesus Christ as my Savior. I enter into the Kingdom of God and is in 1 Spirit as Christ! 1 Body in Christ.
Then, how can I ever die again? If I live for Eternity, then what's the 2nd resurrection for?
Don't try to justify wickedness, it's very discerning.
~Selah~
Nov 23 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Nov 23 2008, 07:24 PM)

QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 08:22 PM)

Well, then answer why a 2nd resurrection and 2nd death is needed, or how it is biblical?
The second death is the death of one's soul.
This I agree!!
Jack777
Nov 23 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 06:52 PM)

Let me give you an example of the false teaching in the last book of the bible, called "Revelations"
It teaches a "second death" and a "second resurrection"
No where else in the entire bible, nor did God said there would be any second resurrection.
Men are appointed once to die and stand in the judgment of God. If you believe in Jesus Christ, you enter into his Glory in the Kingdom of Heaven. But those who do not believe enter in to Hell.
If there was a second death, then how do you explain we to will be in Christ ever see death again? And if we live for eternity, then what is this second death and second resurrection about?
The first death is physical death, in man is appointed to die once. They go to Hell. The second is after Judgment and people not alive physically are sent to the Lake of Fire.
Pamela
Nov 23 2008, 07:30 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 05:52 PM)

Let me give you an example of the false teaching in the last book of the bible, called "Revelations"
It teaches a "second death" and a "second resurrection"
No where else in the entire bible, nor did God said there would be any second resurrection.
Men are appointed once to die and stand in the judgment of God. If you believe in Jesus Christ, you enter into his Glory in the Kingdom of Heaven. But those who do not believe enter in to Hell.
If there was a second death, then how do you explain we to will be in Christ ever see death again? And if we live for eternity, then what is this second death and second resurrection about?
Let me do a little correcting Cretien: First of all it is not RevelationS, there is not an "S" on the end of the last book in the bible. It is called Revelation.
Why is it important to you for it to be taught in other books in the bible to be believable? But it's not the only place it's spoken about...Look through Luke and John you will see it in there...
Yes, men are appointed once to die and then be judged. Yes, the only way is to believe that Jesus is the only Son of God and that He died on the Cross for your sins. Believe in HIM and you shall be saved.
Those who chose to not believe in Him will be cast into hell, it is their own choice.
The second death: Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.Revelation 20:14-15 The second death is
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
If you read the above scriptures you will see that the second death does not pertain to those who are in Christ Jesus.
The two resurrections: The first resurrection takes place in various stages. Jesus Christ Himself (the “first fruits,” 1 Corinthians 15:20), paved the way for the resurrection of all who believe in Him. There was a resurrection of the Jerusalem saints (Matthew 27:52-53) which should be included in our consideration of the first resurrection. Still to come are the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” at the Lord’s return (1 Thessalonians 4:16) and the resurrection of the martyrs at the end of the Tribulation (Revelation 20:4).
Go here and read:
http://www.gotquestions.org/resurrection-first-second.html
~Selah~
Nov 23 2008, 07:31 PM
I'd be actually interested to read your study about this Cretien. Can you share?
Cretien
Nov 23 2008, 07:33 PM
I will soon. There are MANY things that truly shows how this "revelation" extorts demons.
The "was faithful", that is Satan himself. I'll explain more, please be patience.
~Selah~
Nov 23 2008, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 06:33 PM)

I will soon. There are MANY things that truly shows how this "revelation" extorts demons.
The "was faithful", that is Satan himself. I'll explain more, please be patience.
Well in the meantime you can understand why you might be bombarded by most us in this forum. I for one, have never ever heard of what you're saying. Except once there was a website written by Orthodox Jews that said the book of Revelation was not truthful, this I can understand them thinking because they do not yet realise Jesus came and is the Messiah.
Pamela
Nov 23 2008, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Nov 23 2008, 06:31 PM)

I'd be actually interested to read your study about this Cretien. Can you share?
~Selah~ Do not get caught up in this person, they are speaking against truth according to God's word....
Their understanding is off and there is plently of room for error coming from this person...
kim48
Nov 23 2008, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (Pamela @ Nov 23 2008, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Nov 23 2008, 06:31 PM)

I'd be actually interested to read your study about this Cretien. Can you share?
~Selah~ Do not get caught up in this person, they are speaking against truth according to God's word....
Their understanding is off and there is plently of room for error coming from this person...
AGREE AND STAY AWAY. They have been reported.
Jack777
Nov 23 2008, 07:54 PM
It is not The Book of Revelations
It is:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:1
This was written down by John, the Apostle.
Joshleet
Nov 23 2008, 08:36 PM
I seem to have lost my Meds......They are the little pink oblong ones that make me "happy".. If you find them, I will share!!!!... Zeeeeeeeeee
Stephen
Nov 24 2008, 07:37 AM
"Well, then answer why a 2nd resurrection and 2nd death is needed"
I will give you a blunt answer .... from scripture [Revelation 20:11-15]
To get ride of the likes of yourself
Your ranting is a common cult behavior that strives to eliminate the Book of Revelation from the Bible .... the movement has been around for a long time .... nothing new
Humans tend to play with the Word of the Lord and take risks that will up end them
You have breached the limits of the risk factor ..... into the red zone
If you do not halt your direction there will be no recourse for you
John Prewett
Nov 28 2008, 07:00 AM
and its spelled 'CRETIN.'
raysondawn
Nov 28 2008, 08:01 AM
Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
MMarc
Nov 30 2008, 12:46 PM
QUOTE (Cretien @ Nov 23 2008, 07:11 PM)

Well, then can you tell me why there be a need of a 2nd resurrection? Or that there be a 2nd death? Prove to me that it is biblical? I've already proved to you that book is evil.
The first death is the physical death, "then we are judged" if we are judge favorably then we will not know the second death, the death of the spirit.
Jesus overcame the physical death, the first death so that we may be reconciled with the Father on earth. (Passover)
Jesus overcomes the second death, the spiritual death in heaven (atonement) so that we may be reconciled with the Father in Heaven and forever.
The first resurrection is for those who died in Christ and were asleep (soul is sealed till the day of redemption).
Those who did not die in Christ will be raise at the second resurrection. Those of the first are blessed because they were judged and they receive their crowns and will live foreever.
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