First, what is a "synonymous" word (s) ?
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous ! They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
These words pertaining to the word "Lord" , "are" synonymous > Lord - Master - teacher - superintendent - head - sir - prince - owner - Rabbi - leader - chief - governor - pilot - steersman and there might be a few other words that are synonymous with the word - Lord.
My people are destryed for a lack of knowledge. Within the Word of God Jesus is called "master" - "Rabbi" - and "lord".
As Christ is the "head" (synonymous with) of the body of Christ , he is "not" head of God - I Corinth. 11:3 . God is referenced as - The Lord God - The Lord our God, and the "head" (Lord) of Christ.
Never is Christ referenced in such a way as being the Lord God. In fact Christ himself referenced God, by seperating himself from who and what he is , in John 17:3 - Jesus speaking - "And this is life eternal , that they might know thee (not me, but thee) "the only true God" - "and" - Jesus Christ, whom thou (God) hast sent" "
There was a time that some tried to catch Jesus blaspheming God within the gospels, because the scribes claimed that he said that he said he was God, and here is the record >
John chapter 10
10:30 - "I and my Father are one"
31 - "Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him"
32 - "Jesus answered them , Many good works have I shewed you from my Father ; for which of those works do ye stone me ? "
33 - "The Jews answered him saying , For a good work we stone thee not ; but for blasphemy ; and because that thou being a man, makest thyself God"
34 - "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in "your law", I said , ye are gods ? " < Their law !~ Talking about the Law of Moses.
35 - "If he called them gods, unto whom the Word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; "
36 - "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest ; because I said, I am the Son of God ! ? "
Jesus Christ turned the Word of God against them , and their very claim that Jesus in some way blasphemed. He said that they blasphemest, not him. Because he said that he was - "the Son of God".
Not all words are synonomous, but some words can be referenced as. You "must" know the difference !
Let me quote :
Psalm 136:1 - 4
1 - "O Give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good : for his mercy endureth for ever. "
2 - "O give thanks unto the God of gods : for his mercy endureth for ever"
3 - "O give thanks to the Lord of Lords : for his mercy endureth for ever"
4 - To "him alone" doeth great wonders : for his mercy endureth for ever"
Then read verses 5 thru 26 - "O give thanks unto the God of heaven: for his mercy endureth for ever"
The God of heaven , for his mercy endureth for ever" < The Lord God Almighty.
God Bless you all, in our Lord's name Christ Jesus - M M
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Again, your posts have become confusing due to contradictions:
In His Love,
Suzanne
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Nov 21 2008, 05:59 AM) 
I believe that both references pertain to God opening up her womb. Both the reference "Lord" and "God" mean one in the same. Remember, she was told by God directly (not through her man) that she was going to bear children, and that her desire is going to be "unto her husband" (no one else !!) God told her that he would multiply her conception and in sorrow she would bring forth her children. This is something she "knew". She "knew" that God was responsible, because of the curse upon her.
The curse also throws down the myth of a devil spirit having intercourse with her. "Her desire" was unto "her husband". When God says it, that settles it !
IN Christ - M M
The curse also throws down the myth of a devil spirit having intercourse with her. "Her desire" was unto "her husband". When God says it, that settles it !
IN Christ - M M
In His Love,
Suzanne
QUOTE (tsth @ Nov 21 2008, 01:14 PM)
Again, your posts have become confusing due to contradictions:
In His Love,
Suzanne
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Nov 21 2008, 05:59 AM)
I believe that both references pertain to God opening up her womb. Both the reference "Lord" and "God" mean one in the same. Remember, she was told by God directly (not through her man) that she was going to bear children, and that her desire is going to be "unto her husband" (no one else !!) God told her that he would multiply her conception and in sorrow she would bring forth her children. This is something she "knew". She "knew" that God was responsible, because of the curse upon her.
The curse also throws down the myth of a devil spirit having intercourse with her. "Her desire" was unto "her husband". When God says it, that settles it !
IN Christ - M M
The curse also throws down the myth of a devil spirit having intercourse with her. "Her desire" was unto "her husband". When God says it, that settles it !
IN Christ - M M
In His Love,
Suzanne
Suzanne:
You asked me a question, and I answered. I also gave a full explantion here that should help.
Yet, you will not give your explanation of what you consider my contradicitions are. Would you please explain ? I see your faith, but not your love (works). Maybe you can change that and give me an explanation !
IN Christ - M M
Dear Mysteryman,
I cannot make you understand something that you don't understand. I HAVE shown them...obviously it's not a contradiction to you, but it VERY CLEARLY is to me. If I state that your instruction is confusing and seemingly contradictory to me, that is all that I can tell you, until it is clarified. Until then, we would be going in circles. I have merely stated that your teachings have become contradictory and confusing. I have also shown you WHERE these things appear that way. I can do no more for you....other than tell you the TRUTH, which I have.
You can read the above quote of yours that I posted and think on it to see why it seems contradictory.
The topic of this thread, YOUR thread, and YOUR quote above show the contradictions clearly.
In His Love,
Suzanne
I cannot make you understand something that you don't understand. I HAVE shown them...obviously it's not a contradiction to you, but it VERY CLEARLY is to me. If I state that your instruction is confusing and seemingly contradictory to me, that is all that I can tell you, until it is clarified. Until then, we would be going in circles. I have merely stated that your teachings have become contradictory and confusing. I have also shown you WHERE these things appear that way. I can do no more for you....other than tell you the TRUTH, which I have.
You can read the above quote of yours that I posted and think on it to see why it seems contradictory.
The topic of this thread, YOUR thread, and YOUR quote above show the contradictions clearly.
In His Love,
Suzanne
QUOTE (tsth @ Nov 21 2008, 02:13 PM)
Dear Mysteryman,
I cannot make you understand something that you don't understand. I HAVE shown them...obviously it's not a contradiction to you, but it VERY CLEARLY is to me. If I state that your instruction is confusing and seemingly contradictory to me, that is all that I can tell you, until it is clarified. Until then, we would be going in circles. I have merely stated that your teachings have become contradictory and confusing. I have also shown you WHERE these things appear that way. I can do no more for you....other than tell you the TRUTH, which I have.
You can read the above quote of yours that I posted and think on it to see why it seems contradictory.
The topic of this thread, YOUR thread, and YOUR quote above show the contradictions clearly.
In His Love,
Suzanne
I cannot make you understand something that you don't understand. I HAVE shown them...obviously it's not a contradiction to you, but it VERY CLEARLY is to me. If I state that your instruction is confusing and seemingly contradictory to me, that is all that I can tell you, until it is clarified. Until then, we would be going in circles. I have merely stated that your teachings have become contradictory and confusing. I have also shown you WHERE these things appear that way. I can do no more for you....other than tell you the TRUTH, which I have.
You can read the above quote of yours that I posted and think on it to see why it seems contradictory.
The topic of this thread, YOUR thread, and YOUR quote above show the contradictions clearly.
In His Love,
Suzanne
But you have explained nothing ! All you are doing, is telling me that you disagree with me. And you are using the word "contradiction" in reference to your beliefs, without any explanation whatsoever !
If you are going to tell me that what I have said is a contradiction, then show me. Don't just tell me !
I see your faith, now show me your love by your works. Show me ! Tell with explanations ! Please !
If you "can't" then why did you make such a comment ?
IN Christ - M M
Both the reference "Lord" and "God" mean one in the same.
They can be "referenced" as being the same
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous !
They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
The above quotes are all yours, Mysteryman. So, you don't see the contradictions and confusion in them? Especially the last one? It doesn't even make sense...in regard to your own definition posted.
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
I don't know what else to tell you.
In His Love,
Suzanne
They can be "referenced" as being the same
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous !
They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
The above quotes are all yours, Mysteryman. So, you don't see the contradictions and confusion in them? Especially the last one? It doesn't even make sense...in regard to your own definition posted.
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
I don't know what else to tell you.
In His Love,
Suzanne
QUOTE (tsth @ Nov 21 2008, 02:52 PM)
Both the reference "Lord" and "God" mean one in the same.
They can be "referenced" as being the same
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous !
They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
The above quotes are all yours, Mysteryman. So, you don't see the contradictions and confusion in them? Especially the last one? It doesn't even make sense...in regard to your own definition posted.
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
I don't know what else to tell you.
In His Love,
Suzanne
They can be "referenced" as being the same
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous !
They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
The above quotes are all yours, Mysteryman. So, you don't see the contradictions and confusion in them? Especially the last one? It doesn't even make sense...in regard to your own definition posted.
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
I don't know what else to tell you.
In His Love,
Suzanne
Thank you Suzanne, at least you tried . You finally gave an effort in trying to explain your reason for thinking that there is some contradiction. But the fact remains, is that there is no contradiction.
Two words that are not synonomous , like Lord, and God, "can" , in "reference to one another, can mean the same one. < This is what I said / meant.
But, the word Lord, is not synonomous to always meaning God. Sarah called Abraham Lord. She did not call him Lord , meaning God. She called him Lord, which means "master", or the one "over" her, or "head" of her. < These words are all synonomous to the usage of the word - "Lord".
Does my explanation "clear" this up ?
Love IN Christ - M M
QUOTE (tsth @ Nov 21 2008, 10:14 AM)
Again, your posts have become confusing due to contradictions:
In His Love,
Suzanne
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Nov 21 2008, 05:59 AM)
I believe that both references pertain to God opening up her womb. Both the reference "Lord" and "God" mean one in the same. Remember, she was told by God directly (not through her man) that she was going to bear children, and that her desire is going to be "unto her husband" (no one else !!) God told her that he would multiply her conception and in sorrow she would bring forth her children. This is something she "knew". She "knew" that God was responsible, because of the curse upon her.
The curse also throws down the myth of a devil spirit having intercourse with her. "Her desire" was unto "her husband". When God says it, that settles it !
IN Christ - M M
The curse also throws down the myth of a devil spirit having intercourse with her. "Her desire" was unto "her husband". When God says it, that settles it !
IN Christ - M M
In His Love,
Suzanne
I'm in agreement Suzanne,
Jake
I would guess that everyone reading MM's posts are in agreement with Suzanne.
QUOTE (tsth @ Nov 21 2008, 02:52 PM)
Both the reference "Lord" and "God" mean one in the same.
They can be "referenced" as being the same
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous !
They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
The above quotes are all yours, Mysteryman. So, you don't see the contradictions and confusion in them? Especially the last one? It doesn't even make sense...in regard to your own definition posted.
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
I don't know what else to tell you.
In His Love,
Suzanne
They can be "referenced" as being the same
The words - Lord - and the word - God -- are "not" - synonymous !
They can be "referenced" as being the same, but the two words are not snynonymous with one another.
The above quotes are all yours, Mysteryman. So, you don't see the contradictions and confusion in them? Especially the last one? It doesn't even make sense...in regard to your own definition posted.
Definition of synonymous > a word or words that expresses the nearly or similar meaning .
I don't know what else to tell you.
In His Love,
Suzanne
I am going to give this one more try. It does not mean that you or anyone will agree with me. But the effort in my heart feels well worth it.
One can "reference" God as "Lord", because God is the Lord God Almighty.
But one can not say, that when the word "Lord" is used, that it is synonomous with the word God . Meaning, that when you hear or read the word "Lord", you should not associate that word with God at all times.
Sarah called Abraham Lord, and Abraham is not God, nor was she calling him God. She was calling him her "head", the one who is "Lord" over her.
As I explained, those words that are synonomous with the word "Lord", can be "head" - "sir" - "master" and so on. These words are synonomous with the Word - "Lord". Sarah calling Abraham Lord, in no way means anything other than calling him the one who is over her.
The word "Lord" can be - "referenced" as such to mean - God, but in no way can be identified with the referencing word, unless that was the intent of the usage.
When Eve said, "I have gotten a man from the "Lord", she meant - God. All throughout the OT, you read of stories of women who can not have children because God closed up their wombs. A woman whoes womb is not closed up is called - "blessed".
Today in our society, people have gone away from the truth of the Word of God. People have sex, and they think that because they had sex that this woman became pregnant. But that is not the truth. Having sex is no guarantee of a woman becoming pregnant.
But people seem to view life that is outside of the Word of God. They do not look anymore with their spiritual eyes. Only their physical eyes. Safe sex, is one of the biggest topics on TV. And how about Viagra and its claims. What happened to God being in their lives ? Almost anything goes today, with no mention of God whatsoever.
Eve was feeling blessed . And in doing so, she recognized the will of the Lord. > "I have gotten a man from/of the Lord"
God Bless - Love IN Christ - M M
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