Recently I asked this question of Damo. Not for a moment did I expect that he would say that he would push him over.




I was just wondering in the face of what to me is a shocking expression of insane hatred, I wondered how many other people on this forum have this kind of incensed hatred towards the pope. Do we think this is a christian attitude?

and the winner is damo look at your poll ex and you will have your answer



i have my steel cap boots ready and my trusty german shephered is also ready to have some fun with the pope

as you said is this called for i say yes this is called for since you feel you have the backing of the holy church to come here were you debate with us problem i see sevral of your mates have left and you are still hanging around which shows me you are not hear to encourage no one you are only hear to debate that is your purpose


as i was going over your poll excubitor i had the soft violin music playing in the back ground with he fake tears you can hear the fake tear drops hitting the ground


thanks for the laugh excubitor oh have you called up the vatican telling them damo is mocking his holiness the pope ?

ah come on pope retire so i can use my nice new steel cap boots on you

adding this in before i sign off


time for true followers of christ to stand up for what is right instead of being all wishy washy if you think jesus was a wimp go over matthew 23 and you wil see a true man standing against evil

if jesus was strugling i would help jesus but not the pope i dont like what the pope has said about us in his recent speeches i have most of his speeches saved and so do the pastors in australia to think that we wil al bow to him and show him the same respect the catholics show him this wil never happen his last speech got us al up set thinking the roman catholic church is the true church to say we are al rebels and we better come to our sences to were we turn to the true church

while the pope sucks up to the muslims christians in hot zones are being persecuted christians are strugling some are even going with out food and hear we have the vatican enjoying all the perks sitting in the best places pope being looked after bullet proof car his own private plane boat and body guards

while gods son had nothing not even his own private guards not even a religous uniform born in a barn ate with commen folk was called a sinner by the pharisees was told he was a liar

hay if i get the chance i wil take it and i wil not feel sorry either i just pray i get the chance i know what king david would have done i know what sampson would have done and i know paul would have rebuked the pope

he has no authority over me or does the catholic church


i stand on my own with out letting what i say worry me if some one is going to correct me i am my own man


we have one true king i dont like people who worship the pope he is just a man he is not a god as some think he is and he should not be spoilt he should be looking to jesus and taking on his example

he does not need all his fancy toys or does he need his personal body guards


as you can see by my responce excubitor i am no robbot or do i care less to how shocked you are you can even add my reply paste it and show it to your catholic mates on the catholic forum you are involved in i am sure i would have a lot of catholics hating me for what i said hear in this forum but to be honest i am a man who does not really care what you or any catholic would have to say when it comes to the new pope and the old popes

i dont like what has been said i dont like what i see when it comes to the catholic priests

i do have respect for those who have got the balls to question what the church teaches and i have respect for those who have woken up left and found a real church were they can be fed

see problem i see excubitor you can run me down you run my fiancee down who is a filapino pastor and you run other pastors down as i said you think you have the backing of the true holy church you come hear only to debate you dont come hear to encourage any one


you can even send what i left hear in this forum to the vatican so the pope can read it for him self

i pray next time he is in his bullet proof car some one does try to end his life or i pray a bomb goes off to be honest i have no sympathy for men who love the pope this pope is just like any other pope a puppet he sucks up to the muslims why if they start persecuting us christians in our own countrys we live in he knows he wil be safe he knows his followers will be safe he knows the cathedrals and houses and buildings the catholic church owns wil not be destroyed

he bows to there false god they bow to he does not have the balls to stand up to the muslims i see a man who has dug his grave






Damo

I would crush him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JK,,,,,,,Well I would do what the spirit told be to do,,,,,(which would probably be help him) Lets say I didnt certainly feel the spirit at that time,,,or didnt know if I was feeling it,,,I would do what I thought was right...... (which is help him) But I do not take any pleasure watching men and woman bow before a man a kiss his ring,,,,bunch of saps in my book.......

Thank you, for posting this topic.

We need more lesson's in love and not hate.


And defamation of character, name calling . . . is not debate. True debate can discuss the
creed or belief system of any organization in civil tone of behavior, toward one another.


I will make myself clear :


I love all people, I am not the judge.

I do encourage open discussion with respect and manners, to each other at forum.

*Edit
I would (help him that is)*, but I might need a little help myself. I actually have nothing against this pope, I follow along in the forum of articles pertaining to what he is *doing* but as I've even said about Obama or anyone else, they are men, they are in earthly authoritive positions who must answer to Yahshua who is King over them and Lord over them as well as us little people. I do not agree with some of the decisions certain popes have executed, I do not agree with the people who worship the pope and kiss his ring etc...or statues or last year when I watched on TV the Christmas mass, it was disgustingly orchestrated-all the lavish clothing and apparel, all the gold and statues/angels and the throne. But then the pope opened his mouth to speak and I found not fault in his words. I've read this latest popes book and he said the most wonderful and beautiful things about Jesus.

The devil is a deceiver and deceived the whole world. And he does not deceive with darkness as we think; as we read here:
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

We are not to be igorant of satans schemes and lure. We are told we will know them by their fruits and we never hate a person, we hate the sin. Idolatry is a sin. As well as abortion. You cannot preach one without preaching the other, or preach and condemn with the same mouth you consume idolatry in. This would be "speaking like a dragon"

You asked. I answered.

I think I would be incredibly shocked to see the pope out in suburban Australia for a start!

Ex,

I'm sorry I know that this topic wasn't meant to be funny but your post gave me a belly laugh. Ah Damo, you wouldn't really push him would you? Although you may not agree with the Pope and the teachings of the church (which I don't) I understand that all Religious leaders have a Godly purpose in life. I may not understand what that purpose is, or you may not, but God does and that is good enough for me. God knew that the Church would appoint POPES from the beginning of time.

Well thanks again for the laugh....long night at work.

Gods Blessings,

Al

This reminds me of Monty Python's Flying Circus. I cannot imagine being less than respectful of the Pope in person or whatever.

Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses,

durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Jud 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not:

but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Jud 1:11 Woe unto them!

for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

here is a question to those in support of what excubitor left in his poll

think back to when jesus was walking the earth were the pharisees ever nice to gods son ?

did the pharisees ever give money to gods son did they ever give him clean clothes ? did they really ever listen to what gods son had to say ?

the trial when he was brought in by the soldiers were the pharisees showing gods son any respect ?


this is directed to the ones who said they would help the pope cross the road since i see its know sitting in favor for helping the pope cross the road

when persecution comes which it will and i can tell you know the catholics wil not face what we wil face they wil be the ones judging us and when you stand before the bishops the cardinals and the pope him self do you think the bishops and the cardinals and the pope wil show you who say you are a follower of christ any respect ?


by saying if you saw the pope crossing the road do you think you who are suppose to be the true followers of christ will this give you a free pass into heaven ?


as of today it sits at


HELP HIM CROSS THE ROAD 88.33%

PUSH HIM OVER AND KICK HIM 16.67%


LET EXCUBITORS POLL SINK IN REMEMBER THIS POLL OF EXCUBITORS

WHEN YOU ARE PERSECUTED IN YOUR COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN IT WIL NOT BE THE MUSLIMS OR THE HINDU PERSECUTING YOU THEY TOO HATE THE CATHOLICS AND THE HARD CORE MUSLIMS AND HARD CORE HINDU HATE THE POPE


THERE ARE OSAMA BIN LADEN LOYAL FOLLOWERS WHO WIL CARRY OUT HIS THREAT THE POPE THINKS BY MAKING PEACE WITH THE MUSLIMS WIL GET THE HARD CORE OSAMA BIN LADENS LOYAL FOLLOWERS OF HIS BACK

Gods own son was not shown no respect by moses disciples when jesus stood before his accussers they hit him they did not say because you are gods son we wil let you go his accussers wanted him dead these are moses disciples as only moses heard from god jesus though gods own son is seen as a sinner a trouble maker moses true disciples could not handle what gods son had to say

do you think when you are standing before your accusser which wil be the cardinals the bishops and the pope viewing from a safe distance when you are hit spat on made a fool off told to denounce jesus do you think your accusser wil care if you say i am a brother or if you say i am a sister do you think your accusser wil be gentle ?



the true colors of some christians are showing in this poll of excubitors


as i said remember this poll of excubitors and look at jesus trial


bunch of pussys thinking you wil be given a free pass for being nice to the pope




Damo

ALL DEFAMATION IS REPORTED BY COPY/PASTE TO :


Vote:`should Moderator Edit Non-debate Topic's That, contain defamation of character, assassination`?
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...84&start=84



We need a record to collect slander, abuser name, abused name and public knowledge
that this has happened at the forum.


I ask each and every member to join in copy/pasting sentences, word's or phrases with
the link @ the VOTE topic, above.

Will this topic be a huge compiled file by this time next month ! Although, I am praying
for resolution and proper debate between parties, action in establishing these terrible
example's under the name of Christian faith, is like a dog returning to vomit.


God {IHVH} Help Us !

Yet i notice certain members alow excubitor to were he can say as he pleases about our denominations we belong to has ran certain members down who he does not like leaves long borring posts telling us all to come back to the catholic church wil not show no respect and not one member pulls excubitor up but new members boy do they get jumped on by you righteous lot who say you are true followers of christ

this is directed to me he has pasted what i said in my responce to his question he asked me in dennis manns topic when i give him a simple and honest answer he sets up a poll wanting to know if their are other christians hear who think like me

excubitor has gone out of his way to get us who want nothing to do with the catholic church or the catholic churches doctrines to were he says we are to come back to the true church he tells new members hear who come seeking to listen only to the priests

if ex did not like my responce he could have grown some balls and sent me a personal pm message stating i am hurt by your responce

excubitor has set this poll up to run me down


as i said bunch of pussys if they think they wil get a free pass into heaven

i have warned ex not to run my fiance down who is a filapino pastor what does ex do he runs me and he runs my fiancee down and you members who belong to this forum are ok with this

ex is not hear to encourage no one he is only hear to debate thinking he has the support from the true church

tells me i should work in a butcher shop and hide in the darkest corner in one of the catholic churches to were i am not preaching because i have tattoos

and you members are ok with ex running down certain members who do stand up and get no support

only the long term members get the support they need but if your new you have no support your left on your own


i know why excubitor has set this poll up and where is he ? i am weighting for him to respond to what i have left


if you want to report what i have left go right ahead report it better ask one of the mods to kick me of to be honest i dont care when i get back next year from the philippines i wil be clossing my account since i have been hear only a few have encouraged me



Damo

if you want to report what i have left go right ahead report it better ask one of the mods to kick me of to be honest i dont care when i get back next year from the philippines i wil be clossing my account since i have been hear only a few have encouraged me
This post has been edited by damo7: Today, 04:40 PM



Damo :

This hurts me to think that few have encouraged you.

I will help you in any way I can.

However, we have outsider's worldwide who read these slanderous statements and
word's of defamation directed at forum member's character's, are we not to set an example
for infidel's ?


When we start acting like believer's, the infidel's will most certainly not consider our
walk with God [IHVH] as a small matter.

EXAMPLE :

In our heart, although a rapist CAN be set free into civilization, I believe in that rapist to
repent and to understand that he raped, and the community should mark his yard
to denote ' I am a rapist '.

Then the converted rapist can post a yard sign stating, " I am saved, no longer a rapist "


His right to convert (accept Jesus), does not make the neighborhood feel safe with children.

There is a seed of evil he sowed in the rape of the child.


The laws of forgiveness under Christ, do not prevent boundary setting in discernment.


Someone must step out and call out the lines of demarcation on the forum, in our home,
neighborhoods, schools, jobs . . .

Why not, debate with integrity ?

Some were. Joseph of Arimethea for example. Jesus commanded to obey the pharisees because they sat in Moses seat. So who is greater? Him who sits in Moses' seat or him who sits in Peter's seat?


Are you saying that Christians should behave like the Pharisees. Is your treatment of the Pope your funny way of taking out revenge against the pharisees. Jesus said "Forgive them for they know not what they do". What do you say?. Get back at them by kicking and pushing over the pope.

What about "Bless and Curse not"
"Love your enemies"
"Do good to them who spitefully use you"
"Even the angels do not bring railing accusation against the devil"

Didn't you read Jack777's post. The scriptures he quoted describe those with viperous tongues foaming out indignations against dignitaries as brute beasts. You don't want to be like that do you damo.


Not so. The scripture John 4, 2 John 1 makes clear that those who claim that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh are the ones who will be persecuted and martyred. Catholics believe this absolutely being the most staunch defenders of the Trinity doctrine among all the Christian denominations. In this scripture it makes it clear that it is impossible to say that Jesus is Lord without the Holy Ghost 1 Cor. 12:3. Therefore we can see clearly that protestants who confess with their mouth this point are led by the Holy Ghost. Equally Catholics who confess with their mouth this point are equally led by the Holy Ghost. Why then are we fighting? The antichrist is opposed to the core to this notion and will persecute and murder those who hold this belief. Do you believe that Jesus is God, come in the flesh Damo? So too does the Pope. Therefore you are brothers even though you war against him, push him over in the street and kick him.



The free pass into heaven is to believe that the Son of God is come in the flesh. Having so believed we devote ourselves to good deeds such as helping old frail men across the road.


Makes me sick to think there are 2 members of this forum who voted that they would push over the Pope. I suspect one of you is Damien and the other is Nightmare. I doubt that even Dennis Mann who has more jagged teeth than a chainsaw would push over the pope.


This does not make sense Damo. Can you rephrase please. Of cours muslims hate catholics. They consider them blasphemers because Catholics believe that God has a son. Of course they are and will in the future be persecuting catholics.


How ridiculous. Which cardinal or bishop spat on someone and told them to denounce Jesus. You have an active imagination damo. Please find one case of this.


I'd rather be considered a lamb than a pussy, but at least you are not accusing me of being a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour which is the frame of mind you seem to be exhibiting. You are an angry man damo and you seem to funnelling all your hurt, pain and bitterness towards the RCC. I know that its easy for me to say because I have not been hurt in the ways in which you have. But I have been hurt enough and learned enough to know that the Christian way is to forgive and let go of all hurt, pain and bitterness leaving it for God to deal with. This results in love joy and peace in our hearts which we express with good deeds of kindness even toward our enemies, and certainly toward our brothers who believe as we do that Jesus is God come in the flesh.

Excubitor


you decide to show up so nice of you to show up and respond i have the violin music playing in the back ground with the fake tear drops hitting the ground as the violin is being played

i am not an angry young man excubitor you dont know me to be saying this you set this poll up of yours for a reason i am no fool i know who the poll is directed to excubitor i stand on my own with out running to the moderators of this forum i dont need to do that were if some one offends me run straight to the moderator saying this person is not obeying forum rules

as i said in a previous post set up in this forum my gripe i have is personal towards the catholic church


what i dont need and any other new member who comes to this forum is some one saying we should come back to the true church

i said to you has the catholic church been able to come to the midle were the young people who are leaving were the parish priest and the vatican listens instead of forcing their members were they cant worship god freely as they should be dont come beating your chest hear on this forum saying how bad i am for pinching the priests members to were they join us i dont belive in doing this and neither does my fiancee we let people who want to leave the catholic church make their own mind up they have a brain they can learn to use it its not hard to use the brain god has given you

i also run into catholic priests who swear like para troopers and they are hear in the comunities they find them selves in representing the pope i would not want any one of the ones i have ran into representing god on this earth if they feel they are with in their god given right to swear while wearing the religous uniform that makes them stick out you can tell who the priests are their uniform sticks out

does it give you the right to run us down does it give you the right to come hear were you only debate with out encouraging anyone and soon as straight forward answer is given you think i am being mean and i am an angry young man

yes i read jacks scripture he speaks for him self if it was directed to me he could have put my name and said damo look at this i know the scriputres jack left in your poll very well excubitor


double standards excubitor is what i see


makes you sick to think i can leave what i said and the other member is nightmare


boo hoo i got the tissues ready for anyone who wants a good old cry


when i am hear i dont show one face to the members and another face to the people in my church what you see is what you get with me and if you cant handle what i leave bad luck


what does not make sence to you excubitor me saying let this poll of excubitors sink in ? you saying catholics to wil be perssecuted ?

if the pope sees him self as gods representative on this earth he then should not be backing down from the muslims he is talking with he should not be bowing to the god these muslims worship and when he makes his speeches excubitor he should try not to run us down


oh and if you catholics think you are so righteous when ever we ask the catholics hear to be involved in the combined prayer meeting why is it that we never have any real reighteous catholics coming to the combined prayer meetings do you think you are better then us to say sorry we want nothing to do with your combined prayer meetings but soon as some one says something about your beloved pope oh boy do they get drilled



i have all the speeches the popes have said saved excubitor

does this new pope really think he is going to gain our support does he think we wil come around and see the church for what it is and accept that the catholic church is the only true church ?

and with dennis mann he is his own man he has a mouth let him use it dont drag dennis man into this topic off yours


as i said guys like me will never make it when it comes to the catholic church if i said to a catholic priest i feel god is calling me and i have a pastors heart that catholic priest would have looked at me looked at my tattoos and told me straight up forget it bud


its ok for you to drag us down but soon as i speak up you feel i am being mean you seem to think their is something wrong with me

hay whats good for the goose is good for the gander you cant handle the straight talking and the way i respond excubitor may be you should do what your two mates did find a forum were you are around like minded souls

why do you come hear i hear what you had to say to chrio i hear what you say to dennis mann and any one else who challanges you


do you really think that priest you are talking to is going to give you a free pass ?

i know their are some members hear who would have read what i left you in your poll and i know some cant speak openly as i can some cant even say what is on their mind with out worrying if they will offend some one

its as if fear of man has some of these members under control to were they have to go in stealth mode when they are hear

i dont need to go into stealth mode while i am signed on


oh what gives you the right to tell me i need to be in a butcher shop and what gives you the right to tell me i need to crawl in a dark corner and sit at the back of a catholic church not were people see me at the front and my tatoos

jesus says come into the light he does not tel us to hang out in dark corners of our churches we belong to



you are no lamb excubitor the way you respond when you are not being heard shows me that you are no lamb


hay i am going to have some lunch and then talk to some real people who dont hold back but are up front and honest i wil come back later on


near futer pm me dont set up pathetic polls thinking you wil get other members hear backing you up i know why you set this poll up and i know why you left what i said you wanted the members hear to pull me up this wil never happen

i am my own man excubitor





Damo

Are you sure about all of that damo? I have rarely used the Report button, but the Report button is there to assist the moderators for when the rules are broken. For example heretical statements against the Trinity are only allowed in the debates forum.


No kidding. I would never have noticed.


Are you trying to divert attention away from yourself and onto the sins of others damo?


I can't imagine how you managed to deduce that the thread was aimed directly at you damo to expose your unchristian behaviour.
And to think that you are a pastor in training for a church in the phillipines which entices Christians away from their catholic church. What an outrage


To be honest, I'm glad I can't see your face damo. I feel sorry for the poor Phillipinos in your church who can. And don't tell me that you will get up on Sunday and take a vote on how many in your congregation would push over the pope in the road and kick him as they go past? Is that going to be the topic for your sermon on sunday? Did you learn that in your Bible College correspondence course you are doing to train to be a minister? Do all of your congregation share your views on the pope? If you are transparent as you make out, then tell everyone what you have said to me and see how many continue to follow you. Clearly on this forum of less than model christians we have an overwhelming majority who would not push an old man over as he crossed the road. Even the worst atheist and heathen would not push him over. I doubt that even Chopper Reid would push him over.


If he is God's representative on earth then who are you to say what he should or should not do? Plenty of people questioned Moses who led the people in the wilderness and they were horribly punished. Maybe I don't agree with everything the Pope does but then I am not claiming to be God's representative on earth. If anyman here feels that he is God's representative on earth then let him come forth and question and accuse the man who is.


With you there? The fact that no righteous catholics come to your prayer meetings should be indication of the nature of your prayer meetings. I daresay that no sinning swearing priests come to your prayer meeting either.


I doubt that any church leader will ever get your support damo because you are not a compliant malleable obedient man who sees the best in people and seeks to serve and submit the appointed and ordained minister.


I think after he looked at your tattoos he probably looked at the expression on your face before telling you to forget it. I haven't seen your face, your tattoos, your meat axe, or your tyre iron. All I have seen is your bad writing skills, your rude and insulting manner towards people and your harsh and hateful words toward the pope. And what I am telling you is the same thing that the poor priest would be saying. Forget it bud. Trust me sunshine. You don't have a pastors heart. Now get your tissues out and go and do your boohooing and violin playing. Perhaps I will put up another poll asking "Which career should damo choose? A. Butcher B. Motor Vehicle wrecker C. Bouncer or D. Pastor. I would think it would be a dead heat for A-C and only one vote for D which you yourself submitted.

Why am I being so hard on you damo? To be honest if you were just some guy with a chip on his shoulder because the nun wrapped his knuckles at school and that sent him spiralling into crime, gang warfare and tattooing then I would not care. Its the fact that you are setting yourself up as a pastor, enticing simple Christians away from their church to come join your rag-tag band that is really upsetting and angering me. FORGET IT BUD. That's the best advice you could take. FORGET IT NOW damo before you dig yourself a gigantic pit to fall in which will leave you scrambling trying to get out of till the judgement.



Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


What do you think that this is the Christian forum or do you think that it is the "Lets's push over the Pope" forum. I have as much right to defend a poor old man from being pushed over on a busy street as anyone else has.


Maybe you should take a leaf out of their book.


Did it ever occur to you damo that they are not supporting you for the simple fact that they don't support you. You are suffering a severe delusion if you think that there are this great list of people who secretly would love to vote to push over the Pope but refrain from doing so out of fear of men. Come on. The Vote does not even record who voted for what. So people have no fear of showing their cyber face now do they. Come on damo. Think things through before you just plaster your fleeting thoughts on the forum please.


I'm not deliberately being rude. What I am getting at damo is that you need to be humble. By putting yourself forward as a pastor you are like the pharisees, loving the chief seat in the synagogue, Matt 23:6
Remember the man who chose the front seat he was embarassingly moved to the back by the host and the advice was given to choose the back seat in the house so that you can be honoured by the host.
(I can't find the scripture reference for this. Can anyone help?)


How true damo. You answer to nobody. That much is clear. You think this is something to boast about but it is in fact the opposite. A christian is known for his humility and obedience, not his self reliance.

Besides the poll worked perfectly. It correctly highlighted how overwhelmingly Christians understand that pushing over an old man in the middle of the road and then kicking him is not a Christian behaviour. I was hoping that this public shame would bring you to repentance for your own remediation and for the saving of the poor phillipinos who have found themselves in your ramshackle scout hall churchy thing.

Sadly. Although the poll worked perfectly in shaming you, the hoped for repentance and soul searching from you did not eventuate. So it would seem that ultimately I have failed to help you.

"if your enemy is hungry, feed him" NT

Excubitor


the only reason this poll is swinging your way is simple people who have said they wil help the pope are may be not being honest


and this is what i want other members to see


the way you attack certain members is a joke and you call your self a righteous man hold on you are hear to deffend the catholics on this forum were are the dear old catholics in need of defending i dont see them supporting you trying to rebuke me ?

only one member wanted to know if i was being serious i did not respond i wil though let her read what i am leaving you


you must think you are so special with all the knowledge with all the catholic churches backing and your up bringing you must feel so proud of your self to come hear were you just let your mouth do the talking with out thinking

at least i am around guys who have not raped young boys at least i am around guys who have not got aids and at least i am around decent honest people who dont beat around the bush or do these guys wear these stupid religous uniforms the priests wear

either you have your head in the sand or what i am saying is not sinking in do you honestly think all preists are angels excubitor do you think all catholic priests dont masturbate or surf the web when away from their parish and the members who know them ?

choper would have spat on the pope i know who chooper read is excubitor and i know were he stands when it comes to you saying what you said i know guys more tuffer then choper read who would gladly go out of their way and end his life or kick him or even better shame him out or even better stand him near a poll and spit on him

am i going to get punished for what i said excubitor is your god going to zap me were i sit for saying that i would first push the pope then i would get ready to kick him from behind as he falls to the ground ?


most of the guys i know hold no respect what so ever towards the new pope excubitor to be honest not many of my friends i know hold any respect for the pope or do they pray for the pope asking god to guide him while he represents the millions of catholics who have been bewitched

for now on dont bring down my members or my fiancee coward if you have anything to say you say it directly to me coward

this is what i notice when it comes to you excubitor if you feel i am not listening to what you are leaving me you run my fiancee or run my members down or run me down

i am glad i cant see you either excubitor i would not want my mirror in the loung room cracking and then having to replace it


most of the members are all x catholics excubitor who no longer look to the catholic church or hold the pope in high regard

go right ahead put another poll up little man you are good at doing this excubitor i was expecting to hear you beating your chest but i heard just the wind and the rain last night


the members hear dont know me and you will not be able to figure out by a poll when it comes to this christian forum stating what direction i should take

the members hear not all of them but some run on fear believing what ever is said with out testing to see if this is off god

and you trust on line christian forums to give you your answer


excubitor you are a coward when you feel some one is not hearing you out you do your best to run them down and you think you have the support of the members in this forum


were are all your supports excubitor i noticed its going down your poll know stands at

75 % to help him cross the road

25 % push him over and kick him


at least my mates have not gotten the denomination i belong to in debt like the catholic priests in america and the sevral ones hear in australia who have gotten the catholic church into debt

the police are asking anyone who has been raped by a catholic preist to come in and give them al the information they need

the ones that do speak up get no support from the catholic church yet when it comes to the hounding the catholic church got by the reporters the catholic church is now showing the rest of us it cares for the victems


why did they have to come out know saying they care for the victems that got raped by those priests ?


to show the world that the new pope is a good guy he can be trusted we should forgive the catholic church and its pedophile priests mean while the poor victems cant let go they live with what happend to them when you show them you care they put up walls never trusting anyone

come judgment day is god going to slap the pedophile catholic priests on the back or is he going to punish the pedophile catholic priests


i am also glad i am not fellowshiping in the church you are looking at settling i would not want to have the righteous lot you are about to be welcomed by looking down on me and my friends teling me you are not welcome while pathetic geeks like your self are welcomed


show me how the poll has worked perfectly excubitor ? as i said people are not being honest its only a poll and you only have the members hear communicating you are not talking and dealing with people who live in the real world


YES YOU HAVE FAILED TO HELP ME WHY BECAUSE I DONT LISTEN TO IDOL WORSHIPERS WHO WORSHIP A MAN WHO DOES NOT HAVE ANY ATHORITY OVER ME


i dont need the tissues excubitor but you have made me laugh i am cracking up thanks for the laugh


any time you are ready bud set that poll up asking the members hear what direction damo should take


this is going to be a laugh


thanks for the laugh i have better things to do any time you are ready excubitor set that poll up


shows me i am dealing with a boy who is not in touch with the real world his world exists only in on line christian forums


so this is your responce to why catholics dont come to combined prayer meetings when asked you want only people with no tattoos coming to your pathetic church you are about to become a member off



WHAT TIME AM I EXPECTING TO HEAR YOU BEATING YOUR CHEST EXCUBITOR WIL I HEAR IT AT 3AM AS I AM ABOUT TO KNOCK OF WORK ?



better send this reply to the vatican because you aint gonna get me comming around

i am going to keep leaving what i leave though i am use to your long replys even though they bore me to death i guess i can see why i dont want to sit in a service like you are use to sitting in i would need a pillow and the homer sympson glasses he wears


and you wonder why young people and young familys leave the catholic church excubitor








Damo

Poor fellow.
What is something I said?

i dont need you saying poor fellow go over this poll and read what you left me and you wil see what i mean

as i said i dont want to hear you run my fiancee or say i feel sorry for your members in the philippines

you have anything to say you direct this to me and me only with out dragging dennis man into this poll of yours


this is how it works in the real world real men dont run another mans wife down or do they slag against a pastor and his members


i can though see why people want nothing to do with the catholic church when the light switches on



any time you are ready bud set the poll up

may be when i get back at 4am my time on friday morning i wil set the poll up for you asking members hear you want to know what direction i should take

Question A should damo go al the way study and then be raised up to pastor the new church his fiancee has planted in la castelana

question B should damo take on excubitors advice and work in a butcher shop take on a job as a car wrecker or take on a job as a bouncer or pastor

one i am already a security guard and i have worked in a butcher shop and done some car wrecking and worked in a funeral parlor




and hear is the dumb priest scratching his head wondering why he is loosing his members


hay the catholic priest is loosing more members he has lost half of his sunday school and half of his youth group


i am cracking up and he cant do a thing he has no hold over the young people or the parents pulling their kids out


parents are know waking up i guess you can thank the pedophile priests excubitor


as i said i dont hold a gun to the ones i know who are know looking at leaving their parishes they belong to


but as i said to you i am going to rattle your cage


and when it comes to your borring replys you leave me it should show the new members how unstable you are


i dont have to do much or say much


as i said my gripe is personal and more needs to come to the surface only half has come to the surface no use trying to make the new pope look good his priests are making him look stupid



Damo

I voted to push and kick him, and that Jesus would too, LOL. Just 'cause it was funny.

The pope thinks he is a god over the people on earth. Jesus told us to beware of the scribes who dress in long robes and want to sit at the chief seats.
That's who the pope is, and all of his bishops.

God will lead His people who are in the Catholic church to Him. I'm sure God has people in the RCC, on the sly, doing His work. He has His people everywhere, and, not where we would think.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=15684&hl=

They will kill you and think they are doing God a favor...

Don't get caught in that crowd, whatever you do.

Jesus was God but he did not come to laud it over men, he came to serve and be a good shepherd for his flock. And when he left the earth, did he abandon his sheep? No he handed over his role of feeding the sheep to Peter, saying "Do you love me? Feed my sheep. 3 times" Peter of course fulfilled this command and from that day until this there has always been a successor to Peter feeding his sheep. Not that the successor of Peter does this work, no Jesus works vicariously through the successor to Peter continually feeding his sheep. The vicarious nature of the work of Christ through the Bishop is why he is given the title Vicar of Christ. Protestants have twisted this meaning to say that Peter is replacing Christ. How wrong is that. The Pope is a steward. He rules over the Christians of all nations, but as with all stewards he is a servant only of the true King and will hand back the throne and the crown of David to Jesus when he returns in glory.

Tolkein picked up on this theme. The steward of Gondor held his charge until Aragorn the King returned. If the people had not obeyed the steward and had gone running off all over middle earth they would have got slaughtered by orcs and nazgul. As Christians we need to support and gather around the Steward, huddling in the fortress of Minis Stirith to make our last stand as the waves of orcs goblins and other foul creatures spawned from the depths of the earth array themselves against us.

Interestingly enough Tolkien's mother mabel converted to Catholicism when he was a small boy. Her vehement baptist family disowned her and denied her all financial assistance. She died of deprivation, lack of support and diabetes. The young tolkien believed that she had died a martyr for her faith. Tolkien married Edith in the Saint Mary Immaculate Catholic Church. Tolkien was a lifelong friend of CS Lewis however Lewis' ardent Protestantism was a cause of continual friction. In this letter to Lewis's son Tolkien wrote the following incredibly inciteful words.


So there we have it, from one of the great minds of English literature. There is no real reason for Anglicans to be seperate from Catholics. The only way that such a seperation can be maintained is through hatred. If protestants were to dare to love the pope and the Catholic church their denominations would collapse and they would all go back to the Catholic church. This is why EVERY new cult, sect denomination and churchy thingy gathering in derelict scout halls and school gymnasiums has it its heart and the foundation of its belief system, a hatred and deep seated animosity for the catholic church.

So the Catholic church has a steward to feed the sheep until the return of the King appointed by Jesus himself, succeeded by an unbroken chain of Popes. What a fantastic heritage to have started a church. And who started the Church of England? Martin Luther who lit the fires of rebellion all through Europe where 100's of thousands died. And King Henry VIIIth who was the founder of the church of England.

So here is another poll. If you wanted to join a church, would you join the church which was started by
A. Jesus Christ = One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church.
B. Martin Luther = Lutheran Church.
C. King Henry VIII = Church of England
D. Damo = Church thingy gathering in derelict scout hall

Now Damo when you have had your church running for 2000 years and have a congregation of 700 million then perhaps you might discover that its not actually very easy to run a church of that size. You might find that some of the people who find their way into your fellowship have some unsavoury appetites like violence toward elderly men crossing the road and calling people coward and as the church gets bigger you might find some rebellious law breakers who spit venom and hatred at their leaders, you might find rapists, murderers, paedophiles. You might find voracious wolves who sneak into the church for one purpose only and that is to sow discord, trouble and strife into the church. You might find voracious wolves from other fellowships trying to steal your people away from you with crafty words, promises, jazzy music and coca cola. Then you will understand that it is not an easy thing to be a Pope having to deal with all of these difficult issues. Then you might appreciate the Pope a bit more than you currently do.

Keep an eye on Judes postings on the Foxe Book of Martyrs. At the moment he is softening us up with all the legitimate martyrdoms but soon he will sidle up to us with some bodgy sensationalised protestant "martyrdoms". When we get to that point we will see the most incredible array of viperous vitriole with spitting venomous hatred directed to bishops and cardinals and popes that you could possibly imagine. Even damo has nothing on these guys. Their hatred was so intense that it was insane and unbridled. Those early protestants behaved like mad dogs foaming at the mouth with rabies. Now damo when you have an individual present at your doorstep in this state of extreme bloodthirsty hatred that would curl Chopper Reids moustache. Let me know how you will deal with it. I honestly believe that you would show far less restraint than did those old bishops priests and monks.

more of your famous speeches how you adore the catholic church for surving 2000 yrs while the poor in the countrys the catholic church invaded and forced its self and its rituals and doctrines it holds on to showed no respect to the people or to the ones in real need of a real god

the church that has survived for 2000yrs has shown its true colors

it only accepts those who adore the pope honor the pope suck up to him and worship him

while guys like our brother who the forum supports trusts and prays and gives thanks when ever funds that are raised by chrio and the people behind chrio even though its not much it gives aid to the kids and the elderly folk in his care

mean while your beloved pope you adore enjoys all the perks has his own plane has his own ship has his own bullet proof car has his own body guards has his own servants and his own personal cook cooking his meals your worthless pope wil never know what its like to strugle or would he be able to handle going with out a meal for 5 days or two weeks or could he get on his knees and clean the toilets out like the poor indians who are looked down on by the rich indians

your beloved church that has survived 2000yrs has even done damage in my own country and i wish my old man had pulled the triger and ended the parish priests life who lied to his members who trusted in his angry god


tell me something are all catholics like you excubitor do al catholics like you run guys like my self down do al catholics like you show two faces do all catholics like you bore their hearers ? do al catholics like you tell the poor they wil never make it do all catholics like you tel guys like my self to give up our own goals and persue working in a butcher shop car wrecking yard or as you said to me work as a bouncer instead of seeking to be a pastor ?

wher we do good and reach out and give hope to a hurting world what hope has the catholic church given to a hurting world ? all its given the hurting world is what we are all seeing unfold pedophile priests who cant control them selves and their flesh these pedophile priests cave in thinking no one wil know what is done behind clossed doors they wil not charge us we cant be arrested and sent to jail we are jesus true followers


tell me something wise one when the priests put the hand up to join the priest hood do the older preists teach them to be pedophiles do the old preists pass their skills on to the new priests who put their hand up to join the priest hood ?

why so much aids among the older catholic priests why are their priests who rape young boys what good has it done to the rest of the world were al the recent popes have swept the evidence given to them under the carpet why is the vatican know trying to show us that this new pope is to be trusted ?


do you feel for the victems or do you hate the victems who have spoken up do you hate them so much that you wish they would have shut up do you feel that the victems who have spoken up are liars ?

what right did these pedophile priests have to were they do such a discusting thing ?


have any of these old priests faced their victems with the pope in the same room ?


why know is the new pope wanting to deal with this this could have been dealt with by the old popes ?


many innocent children have had their lives destroyed not just in Australia but were ever the catholic church has established its self i can promise you kids have been raped and its mainly boys these dirty foul mouthed pedophile priests target

i am glad that the fedral police and the new south wales police are working together to were priests who have raped a boy who are being prottected by the catholic church are reported to the police


tell me something would you alow a man to rape you do you know what its like to have a man force him self on you ? would you be able to forgive would you be able to live a normal life would you be able to trust ?

i know what the victems who have spoken up what they are having to deal with i was raped by my old man yet the diffrence with me and the ones know who are speaking up when god convicted me i had to forgive my father


i know what its like for a guy to say i have been raped i know how hard it is for a male to speak up were he is telling another male its hard excubitor its difficult excubitor raw emotions are hard to control but these victems who have been raped force them selves hoping when they speak up some one wil believe them with out judging them caling them a liar or as your church that you love prottecting which has survived 2000yrs sweep it under the carpet hoping they would go away and leave us alone


i know for facts that its tarnished the catholic church the money the catholic church has had to raise its how do i say it brought the church to its knees were the vatican is doing what ever it can to were it does not have to sell a cathedral or its land

but the way i see it more cathedrals wil have to be sold more houses the catholic church owns wil have to be sold the land it owns in the countrys it has forced its self into wil have to be sold

the men who were raped when they were boys are with in their rights intitled to compensation


what the church offered is not a fair offer excubitor and i know their lawyers are pushing for a better offer


the collages the church runs are strugling attendance is dropping excubitor young men dont want to perssue to were they join the priest hood and live out their lives single why should a young man live out his life until he dies a single man ?


hay i dont give a toss to what you have to say excubitor as i said i am glad i am not a lost soul seeking advice from you

when you learn to grow some balls stop forcing me or any one else who disagrees with you i wil then decide to not rattle your cage

you have no right to come hear and tel me i should come back to the true church you have no right to say the catholic church is the true church

you are an unstable man excubitor its shown me you dont use the brain god has given you

are all catholics in the parish you are looking at setling in like you is the parish priest like you ?

if so i feel sorry for any young person or street kid who comes seeking help or wants advice


the advice you leave me shows me you have not got the holy spirit in you and you have the nerve to say i am an angry young man

hay i have done better we use to leave cats or rats hanging on the front porch only those who we hated


and i have seen dead bodies and i have seen what hapens when some one sees a hand or an ear or a finger in a parcel

as i said i know how choper reid thinks and you would not want to hear what he thinks when it comes to the nuns and priests and what he wants to do to a nun if he ever gets a chance i wil let you work it out for your self with out me being told i have broken a forum rule


it must be good to belong to a church that has survived 2000yrs knowing that the young priests who do put the hand up to join the priest hood wil be taught by the older priests how to be pedophiles



just more of your rantings showing me why i want nothing to do with the doctrines you hold on to or wil i ever come back to the true church

and if history repeats its self it wil be guys like me standing up to the guys who dare say we are doing god a favor

keep pumping out though the borring posts you leave in this forum

at least no nun has been charged it shows me nuns can restrain them selves compared to the men who alow them selves to cave in to the cravings of the flesh


Damo

hi~

DECEPTION.

of a truth, they that know the Holy Bible will know that the seat of satan is the roman catholic church, the little horn as spoken by the Prophet Daniel; it is no secret, no "mystery" *hint* except for what is worshipped there in secret. it is true & sure. through the cloak of christian symbolism does the roman empire continue to reign, even now & to side with this little horn will bear witness to the wrath of the LORD.

i do not hate anyone in their order, but neither will i bow down to idolatry. until the day that the caesar, err - pope repents & walks away from that idolatry forever - i shall have no part in any of his ways, or their ways. the pope is not God, neither is the clergy worthy to forgive sin, for they are sinners as much as the rest of us. the only mediator between God & man is the LORD Jesus Christ, not mary "queen of heaven" - as Christians, we side with the LORD Jesus Christ & shall obey God, not men - especially men who have broken the Commandments of the LORD & have manipulated them for their own gain. the LORD Jesus Christ washed His disciples feet, the pope demands all to kiss his feet. ask yourself, what is wrong with that picture alone?

thanks, but no thank you - remember, He is not there, for He is risen.

~levite-7

Jesus Christ suffered more than any man. He was mocked, spat on and reviled. He was scourged so that his bones were laid bare. He was hung up on a cross to die. They gave him vinegar and gall to drink instead of water. A condemned man at least gets a cigarette before he is killed. But for Jesus, even in his last dieing moments they offered him no pity. Yet he suffered these indignities without complaint. He did not revile his persecutors but went to his death like a lamb to the slaughter.

Why are you comparing yourself to me who has known no suffering in my life? Compare yourself to Jesus and strive to be like him who knew more suffering than any man.

Jesus as he hung upon the cross could have called a legion of angels to get him down off the cross, he then could have gone and pushed over the High Priest and done all those things you seem to suggest Chopper Reid would be justified in doing.

However he did not do so. He said "Forgive them for they know not what they do"

Come on damo. I know that I have probably offended you but please try to put all that behind you and just concentrate on these words here above. Are you a follower of Jesus? Then do as Jesus would do?

There is no question in my mind that the church is in decline. Its falling apart in the major catholic nations especially south america as voracious wolves from the protestant forest come in and tear it apart. It has also been demonised by the media and by voracious wolves from the protestant forest.

However just because it is in decline does not mean that it is not the true church. The scriptures prophecy a great falling away in the last days. Israel also fell apart as well because of sin and God sent voracious wolves from Babylon and Assyria to punish and destroy her. Nevertheless Israel was God's chosen nation, not Babylon, nor Assyria. In fact the nations of Babylon who gloated over their conquests over the great nation of Israel, a nation so great and noble that at its height there was never a nation before or since which was more glorious among all the nations; God promises for these nations the greater condemnation and the greater punishment.

God chastises the son he loves. But what does he love? The son or the rod which he strikes his son with? Does the rod of correction exalt itself over the son? Of course not. When the son comes into his maturity the rod will be cast aside, despised and rejected.

why are you bringing up an under world figure like chopper reid do you think because chopper reid has not committed any offences or has he gone back to his old ways that he is a christian ? have you really read his books ? have you sat in on one of his comedy shows he has been to canberra know sevral times and when ever chopper reid comes to canberra he makes a killing he is learning from kevin bloody willison and Rodney Rude and if ever chopper reid was to surf the line and decide to come into a christian forum to see what christian forums are about wer he sees what you are leaving what would be going through chopper reids mind excubitor

the police dont trust chopper reid they are placing bets on chopper reid weighting to see if chopper reid re offends or goes back to his old ways he is one of Australias worse under world figures

but chopper reid knows the guys i use to hang out with he knows kings cross very well and if he were in the strip club i worked were one catholic priest tried to crack on to my old boss chopper would have done worse lucky for that catholic priest i was able to calm my old boss down

and hear we have excubitor teling us al how the catholic church has survived for 2000yrs running us down teling us to leave our derelict buildings to were we come back and help bail out the church from its mess its in


i know what jesus went through i dont need some one like you reminding me what gods own son went through and i know what he said in his last hours on this earth yes everyone also was weighting to see if he would come down from the cross or call out for help were his father sends in a power full army of angels know what good would that have done if jesus father responded to his sons request ?

hears what would have hapend if god responded and rescued his son the angels would have wiped out the pharisees and all the trouble makers the roman army and the guards that brutaly beat gods son while cursing him and spitting on him and driving in a crown of thorns saying prophesy prophesy who hit you lord the angels would have destroyed the roman army then the angels would have gone looking for the others who caused his son grief


i would not have known what gods son went through or would i have knows that his father created what i see today

i would stil be a sinner living in sin doing what i was so use too

i would not be as cival as i have been with you i would have tracked you down to were i end your life or have some one i know who owes me a favor do it for me to were you are tracked down


ex i am no angel and hear you are doing what the priest did in the village i grew up in yugoslavia did all he preached on was how god is an angry god an unforgiving god a god who wil zap you if you say one bad word towards the priest or look a women the wrong way or mock his angry god

mean while were ever the catholic church has established its self innocent boys are being raped and told to shut up and say nothing to their parents if they say something or speak up the pedophile priests who are jesus true followers say to the boys they target not to say if you speak up no one wil believe you your father wil not question me or wil he dare try to hurt me because i am representing the pope and the catholic church wil not let me be arrested or wil i be charged and sent to jail

the reporters need to talk to more victems so the world knows the hidden sins the church was trying to burry only a little bit has risen to the surface excubitor more needs to come to the surface


i am talking to sevral guys were men who were young boys from my country speak up and i am praying that men who were little boys who were raped in the other countrys the catholic church has forced its self into speak up no man who has been raped should suffer in silence


what i want to see if this every priest who has raped a young boy charged i dont want to see were the catholic church only gives up the older ones i know why its giving up the older priests they have not got long to live

i know their are younger priests also being taught by some of these older priests some how soon as a young priest signs up to become a priest the sins with in the catholic church target the young priests

this is why i said at least the female nuns can restrain them selves at least the female nuns dont cave in to the cravings of there flesh like the male priests cave in

and hear we have excubitor teling us al this never happens and its being delt with

time for the catholic church to give its priests up its prottecting stop lying to the world stop putting the hand out were probably its bribed sevral prosecutors to keep quiet

you say catholic priests dont swear i say they swear like para troopers and i would not want any of these guys represting jesus on this earth in the countrys they find them selves in

i know this has happend also in the philippines the cathoilc church has done nothing to compensate the poor boys from poor familys whoes priests target only vulnarable young boys

and you are telling me to give up my hopes were i bring hope to a hurting world


this is my top priority i am praying that the sins the church has swept under the carpet comes to the light


i wil prottect the ones in our care and if i hear of any leader tampering with the kids in our care i wil come down on them and let the law of the land deal with them

we ask our leaders are they ok is their anything we need to know we do police checks on potential leaders wanting to work with the kids in our care i am in regular contac with my fiancee asking how she is i dont want her to burn out or wil i alow any one to hurt her its not easy being in the front line dealing with people you now nothing about

and you feel you are communicating to some one who lacks education and needs to learn or listen to you ?

i also know what to look for thanks to my old man raping me i can pick out the ones who are being abused


i hold no hate what so ever to my old man i could have had my old man face me before he died in 2003 i forgave him in 1988 but made no effort to rebuild our relationship were i tried in 2003 it was too late he died at the age of 53

but i know god is ussing what i have been through were i dont judge or come down on any one who comes seeking help


to have a man like your self tell me i need to give up cracks me up excubitor



when i see the pope denounce his old ways do what kevin rud did by saying sorry to the aborigonal people the true australians and he confesses with his mouth jesus is lord over his life not say what he is being told to say by the ones who write his speeches deals with a lot things then we wil see if the church has learnt from its mistakes


you cant tell me what he says each year from his balcony were many come from around the world the s