Stephen and other geography expert's of Biblical history, please understand I get lost in
a phone booth.

The Holy Spirit has called upon me several times to draw maps and cities and data, for
message's to be understood in a geography theme. However, in my human knowledge
I was a classical reader of history, not geography map systems.

So I have a burden to understand the following questions, in this study.

Thank you all, for helping to unfold this study . . .


Betty
C7A



I am sharing a geography study of the parallel between the colored
horses of Zechariah 6th chapter and Revelations 6th chapter.

Between the two chapter's, this is the projected directional info :


[Seal+Horses color+direction]


1st SEAL WHITE = WEST


2nd SEAL RED = EAST


3rd SEAL BLACK = NORTH


4th SEAL dappled / pale - green = SOUTH





Special instructions apply to the 3rd black horse, NORTH :


Zechariah 2:6

6Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the LORD: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the LORD.



Zechariah 6:8

8Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.




Revelation 6:5-6

5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.





If you look at a map of Jerusalem, what cities are toward the north country
from Jerusalem ?



QUESTIONS I AM PONDERING ?

() If you look at Jerusalem geography wise on a world map, what countries
are NORTH of Jerusalem ?

() What north countries, from Jerusalem geography wise control oil and wine production ?

() What leader would ride the black horse, of the North ?

() Why would both of the 6th chapter's of Zechariah and Revelation
be speaking of the same four horses of prophecy ?

() WHY NORTH ?





http://www.theglobeandmail.com/series/jeru.../map500x500.gif





http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...&version=9;

Zechariah 6

1And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.

2In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;

3And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.

4Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?

5And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the LORD of all the earth.

6The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.

7And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.

8Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.

9And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

10Take of them of the captivity, even of Heldai, of Tobijah, and of Jedaiah, which are come from Babylon, and come thou the same day, and go into the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah;

11Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest;

12And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

13Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

14And the crowns shall be to Helem, and to Tobijah, and to Jedaiah, and to Hen the son of Zephaniah, for a memorial in the temple of the LORD.

15And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD, and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God.





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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...&version=9;

Revelation 6

1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

7And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.




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Here Stephen,

This is why the horse latitudes of the 33rd North Parallel, involve Turkey.

In other words, Turkey is a huge big peninsula wrapped up by seas on three sides that looks like the head of a horse, as a Turkish poet has put it.

Also . . .

The highest mountain of Turkey is the Mount Ararat in the east, on which Noah's Ark is believed to be.

Once the Ottoman Empire had its widest borders from the Adriatic Sea to the Persian Gulf i.e. Indian Ocean.

And I know you know, what the Ottoman Empire is involving prophecy !

Read article below about Turkey in prophecy !

For this is the gateway into the Middle East, through Turkey, from Europe!





http://www.armenian-history.com/images/pic...ount_ararat.gif


http://www.bigglook.com/biggtraveleng/infotips/geography.asp

GEOGRAPHY

Turkey is a big and respectively lush country.It is between 35 and 42 long latitude, and 25 and 44 east longitude. Philadelphia, Tokyo and Beijing are some of the cities around the same latitude as Turkey.

The highest mountain of Turkey is the Mount Ararat in the east, on which Noah's Ark is believed to be.

The total area Turkey covers is about 800.000 sq km ( 774,815 sq km ), and this makes it one of the biggest countries in Europe and the Middle East. The neighbours are Greece and Bulgaria on the norhtwest,Armenia and Georgia on the northeast, Iran and Irak on the southeast and Syria on the south. Of all, the Turkish-Syrian border is the longest.Turkey has no direct border with Russia, but the Black Sea on the north.The other seas that cover Turkey are the Aegean on the west and the Mediterrenean on the south. In other words, Turkey is a huge big peninsula wrapped up by seas on three sides that looks like the head of a horse, as a Turkish poet has put it.

Once the Ottoman Empire had its widest borders from the Adriatic Sea to the Persian Gulf i.e. Indian Ocean.



http://www.aboutmarmaris.com/marmaris-maps/map-of-turkey.gif


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excerpt:
http://www.british-israel.ca/Turkey.htm

Turkey In Prophecy

By Peter Salemi

Dozens of prophecies concerning Turkey fill the pages of God's Word. Everywhere you read Edom, Esau, Seir, Idumea or Bozrah in the prophets, it is referring to these people, particularly to Turkey, a nation of some 55 millions. The entire prophecy of Obadiah is a blistering message of warning to the Turks!

From these inspired scriptures we can see that Turkey will be allied to Europe against the House of Israel and Judah during the Great Tribulation! Israel and Judah will be led captive, and the Bosporus Dardanelles will be turned over to a United States of Europe led by Germany! This is a vital strategic sea gate. How else could Germany take possession of this sea gate unless the inhabitants of Turkey help them to overcome Jacob who hold possession of it in their own land, in Turkey itself! This is why God hold them partially guilty as to what happens to Jacob, and the loss of this sea gate.

This is certainly true of the Ottoman Turks! They reigned for hundreds of years in Europe. Calling itself the Ottoman Empire. And who alone has a history of bloody warfare? The Turks are known to have lived by the sword. History demonstrates that fact!

Another prophecy about Turkey is in the book of Ezekiel



Notice that they also take "Jerusalem"(v.11). This is the time when the Beast [German-led United States of Europe] will occupy Jerusalem, and the Two Witnesses will prophesy for 3 1/2 years, or the time called the Great Tribulation, see Revelation 11. So it seems that this move to take the Bosporus Dardanelles, is a strategic move, to get into the Middle East and Occupy it! For this is the gateway into the Middle East, through Turkey, from Europe!

Ahhh, I see! Ties in with the Greek word for Root which is rhiza. That's where we get our word 'rhizome.' That is the medicinal root. From the rhiza (the main root) grows smaller roots that sprout; that is what the word branch means. Like the description of the mustard seed that sprouts, the birds of heaven rest on the branches. The Branch or sprout, and this is pointing toward a man since his name is 'The Branch,' will be a repairer of the breech. That is the vision I get. The Branch is Joshua, Yehoshua; Zec. 6:11. Jesus has become the high priest in heaven like Joshua was on earth. Jesus then is the Branch.

Thank you, Gregg, for starting the focus of the key, TO UNLOCK, this study.

You are showing me that to understand the North geography of the 3rd Seal, black horse, revealed
in two books Zechariah 6 and Revelation 6, that the BRANCH must be understood . . .
in verse 12 of the 6th Chapter of Zechariah, to understand the horses/etc.


Zechariah 6:12

12And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:


Gregg, I copied and pasted the branch / root of Jesse thread info, to set some Biblical points
of reference.





POST #80
The Comforter, What it is and what it is not
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry262805
QUOTE (gregg @ Nov 16 2008, 09:56 AM)

QUOTE
The "seed" line to the Father, is - "Christ"


You are doing the same thing over and over again.


QUOTE
Jesus "is" the Christ. The "seed" line to God, who is our Father , and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ has a flesh line and a seed line.


Shall we call you the new Peter? Did the old Peter say, 'You are Christ, the seed of the living God?'

You talk about the meat of the word let me give you a name to start with so you can consider where I' m going. The name is Obed. Follow that until you get to the name Jesse and:

Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Jesus is not a seed. The Christ is a ROOT.

The love of money is the ROOT of all evil. The love of Christ is the ROOT of all good.

That's a funny word isn't it? ROOT. What does that word mean? It is the Greek word 'Rhiza.' Do you know what the word 'rhizome' means?


QUOTE
In botany, a rhizome is a horizontal stem of a plant that is usually found underground, often sending out roots and shoots from its nodes. Plants with underground rhizomes include ginger, hops, and turmeric, significant for their medicinal properties. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizome


Go to Matthew 13:21.

"This is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet does not have root in himself, but endures for awhile"

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

I don't know what else to say.

This is for crownsevenalphabet:

http://www.theomatics.com/theomatics/examp4.html







Bravo, Gregg . . .


http://biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Identities.asp?View=2
169 + The Amen + and he shall be for a glorious throne + I am innocent


Because, the link you provided below, has the root of Jesse = 169 . . . I posted this Biblewheel.com
info about.


And . . .


IN THAT DAY THE ROOT OF JESSE SHALL ... 1690
Is 11:10 'rwa ywy wrw avh Mvyb



http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?Gem_Num=1690
All the Verses in the Bible with Sum = 1690

Text Verse

And he shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering; and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him. Lev 1:4
And they departed from Tahath, and pitched at Tarah. Num 33:27
But now the LORD my God hath given me rest on every side, so that there is neither adversary nor evil occurrent. 1Ki 5:4
For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: Psa 83:5
In the day of my trouble I will call upon thee: for thou wilt answer me. Psa 86:7
They angered him also at the waters of strife, so that it went ill with Moses for their sakes: Psa 106:32






See how the root of Jesse shall stand as a banner, the banner is connected to the Prayer Cloth ?


"In that day the root of Jesse shall stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations shall rally to Him" (Isa 11:10).

How does a banner [flag], as a piece of cloth [material], yield any divine
intervention ?




http://daughtersofgodprayerclothmission.bl...yer-cloths.html
EXCERPT:


http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T1143

(1) in the singular, "Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain" (Isaiah 13:2 the King James Version); "a banner to them that fear thee" (Psalms 60:4); and


(2) in the plur., "In the name of our God we will set up our banner" (Psalms 20:5); "terrible as an army with banner" (Song of Solomon 6:4).





How does Paul’s handkerchief’s and apron yield anointing to heal ?




Acts 19:11-12

11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.





The Banner [flag], the Prayer Cloth and the Hem of a Garment
all three speak to the daughter’s of God [IHVH]






excerpt:
http://www.theomatics.com/theomatics/examp4.html
Before we look at the above example, let us go to Isaiah, and see what happens in the Hebrew of the Old Testament.

"In that day the root of Jesse shall stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations shall rally to Him" (Isa 11:10).

IN THAT DAY THE ROOT OF JESEE SHALL ... 1690
Is 11:10 'rwa ywy wrw avh Mvyb
Now the word for "root" in Hebrew does not work out to 169. It has a value of 800, and "root of Jesee" is 1120, or 80 x 7 x 2. It is a commonly known and well documented fact, that everything to do with Jesus is based upon the number 8 throught the Bible. The name Jesus (Iesous) has a numerical value of 888. The word Lord (kurios) has a value of 800. And from the Old Testament, the basic root word for root, from a prophecy in reference to Jesus, is 800, or just 8 (without the zeros).

CSA,

There is really no connection between Zechariah's vision and Revelation

The conceptual is similar, but the time frames are different

Zechariah's vision is one of the impending invasion of the neo-Babylonian's against Israel and this has already been fulfilled in the ancient past

Revelation's picture previewed by the seals is one of the future and involves the entire tribulation period on the earth with focus upon the Middle East

Both visions do have a focus upon the Middle East .... one past and one future

All of the northern Middle East will become the kingdom of the beast and His followers at the time of the end and his holdings will be very similar to that of his past rule in the same area over the human kingdoms that existed there

The Lord uses ancient land marks of the Middle East to pinpoint locations at the time of the end

Examples are recorded in Ezekiel 38, 39, Daniel 11:36-45, and Micah 5

One example of modern locations is the city of Mosul Iraq located across the Tigris River from ancient Nineveh .... the core city of the Assyrians

The little horn will incorporate most of the Middle East into his kingdom and those who will not bend to his objectives will be conquered .... including Israel

The northern tier of the Middle East will produce his base of operations at first and he will then expand his holdings to form his 10 unit confederacy

Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran will be under his sway as well as those countries located in the eastern extents like Afghanistan and Pakistan

He will force the others like Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia to fall in line

Thank you, Stephen :

All of the northern Middle East will become the kingdom of the beast and His followers at the time of the end and his holdings will be very similar to that of his past rule in the same area over the human kingdoms that existed there






And as you know Stephen, I have a belief that the geography of the 33rd Parallel North, contains
all the worldwide historical hell raising events of war and destruction.

I will find my link and put it here . . . give me a moment !



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Summary:
The world of warriors, are always under the direction : NORTH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.

Starting at the prime meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 33° north passes through:

Algeria;
Tunisia;
Libya;
The Mediterranean Sea;
Israel;
The Golan Heights;
Syria;
Jordan;
Iraq;
Iran;
Afghanistan;
Pakistan;
Kashmir (area administered by Pakistan, and area administered by India);
India;
Disputed area between India and the People's Republic of China;
The People's Republic of China (including Tibet);
East China Sea;
Japan (Nakadori, Kyūshū and Shikoku);
The Pacific Ocean;
The United States;
California (San Clemente Island and mainland);
Arizona;
New Mexico;
Texas;
Arkansas / Louisiana (see below);
Mississippi;
Alabama;
Georgia;
South Carolina;
The Atlantic Ocean;
Portugal (Porto Santo Island, Madeira);
Morocco.
The parallel is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.

It also forms the common border between Arkansas in the north and Louisiana on the south. The Louisiana Territory was that part of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase which lay north of the 33rd parallel.

The 33rd Parallel is part of the horse latitudes.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/33rd-parallel-north


Encyclopedia > 33rd parallel north
The 33rd parallel north is a circle of latitude which cuts through the southern United States, parts of North Africa, parts of the Middle East, and China.


It is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.




Stephen:

See how the Nineveh (Iraq) . . . is linked to the 33rd Parallel North in geography ?

As you stated here :

(Stephen, quote)
One example of modern locations is the city of Mosul Iraq located across the Tigris River from ancient Nineveh .... the core city of the Assyrians

QUESTIONS I AM PONDERING ?

() If you look at Jerusalem geography wise on a world map, what countries
are NORTH of Jerusalem ?

Cyprus, Syria, Turkey, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Sweden, and Norway, Svaltard

() What north countries, from Jerusalem geography wise control oil and wine production ?

Cyprus has been producing olive oil and wine since around 6000 BC, but Syria has produced oil and wine since the 4th century, but there is Mt. Ararat in Turkey that has many olive groves and they produce wine.

() What leader would ride the black horse, of the North ?

The rider of the black horse has balances in his hand. Balances are the laws; that’s what the word means in that chapter. Now, what I’m seeing is the rule of the people of the world; they are yoked into servitude. The rider of that black horse may be the leader of the Democratic Party in Turkey or it could turn out to be the Druze leader in Syria because of Islam. But, I don’t like to point fingers.

() Why would both of the 6th chapter's of Zechariah and Revelation
be speaking of the same four horses of prophecy ?

First thing has to do with how the transgression has spread from the earth to the heavens and the testaments, old & new, match that progression. But, in Zechariah, there are horses pulling chariots and in Revelation it is just 4 horses. They are not really the same, but the words describing their functions are the same.

() WHY NORTH ?

Interesting thought from that. In the Old Testament, north meant ‘the hidden country.’ And the north could be considered ‘up’; above.
That brings the picture to the mind of the heavens. Since, in the New Testament we are battling forces and rulers of the heavens, that would be north.


Psa 104:15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.

When you study the Bible prophets you must be able to know when the prophet is speaking about the immediate future .... and the distant future

These two projections are ofter presented together in the same context of a passage and they can be identified by careful reading and with the knowledge of historical and geographical reference

I am not certain about your study of the parallel markers which have been developed by human design

I can tell you this ... the center of all vectors and direction given in the prophetic visions is Jerusalem

One should study the visions with this truth in mind

This is the Lord's city .... still is from His perspective .... even though there are those who disagree with Him and have taken it to their own possession

He will rule the world from Jerusalem during His millennial kingdom

Israel's end time antagionist will come from the region of the far north .... far in the Middle East ... not outside of it

All of the other significant invasion of the nation have come from the north and this will be no different at the time of the end

Satan's beast will come from his place out of the north to invade Israel

The location of Israel is a land bridge connecting the continents of Europe, Asia, amd Africa

And the Lord has placed the nation there for a reason

The only practical entrance is from the northern vector since the land is almost unapproach from the east

Zechariah 6

1And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.


Watch how the chariots are geography references ( Cheth/line of demarcation in geography )


In Hebrew, the line of demarcation is understood under the word : CHETH



The Chet has an extremely strong association with the ideas such as wall, fence, hedge, boundary, chamber, join, unite, bond, bind, wrap and so forth.



The chariot was a powerful religious symbol for ancient Israel: not the ordinary chariots used for war, but what the Bible calls "chariots of fire." The first mention of chariots of fire is in 2 Kings 2:11. This is the story of Elijah being caught up into heaven.


In the vision of Ezekiel, the container is described in terms of the four kerubim or living creatures - man, ox, lion and eagle -, each with a wheel and a throne beside them.


So just as Ezekiel describes four living creatures, Ezekiel's chariot (Cheth), Zachariah's
four chariot horses, Revelations 4 horsemen . . .



And this is why we are instructed to see the North keycode, of Zechariah 6:6



6The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.


8Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.





http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/33rd-parallel-north


Encyclopedia > 33rd parallel north
The 33rd parallel north is a circle of latitude which cuts through the southern United States, parts of North Africa, parts of the Middle East, and China.


It is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.

Forgot to put a check in the reply button.

Yes,



I was shown that the geography center point is Zion/Jerusalem:


( quote from my introduction page )
If you look at a map of Jerusalem, what cities are toward the north country
from Jerusalem ?




And since North is black, then white = west . . . ( the 1st Seal, white horse = west )



I would like you to help me unfold what are some geography locations that are
specific to the North West of Jerusalem, observation point / demarcation of Israel

and . . . worldwide geographic North West of Jerusalem ?

Gregg . . . thank you for that over-view and research !


() Why would both of the 6th chapter's of Zechariah and Revelation
be speaking of the same four horses of prophecy ?

First thing has to do with how the transgression has spread from the earth to the heavens and the testaments, old & new, match that progression. But, in Zechariah, there are horses pulling chariots and in Revelation it is just 4 horses. They are not really the same, but the words describing their functions are the same.



This is correct.

The missing chariot ( cheth ).

The missing line of demarcation (Cheth/fence) . . .


Why is the line of demarcation missing ?

Stephen, do you actually think there is that much difference in the past, present, and future? You cannot divide God that way; maybe you can with man. A prophet is just man who speaks of the Kingdom of God. What does the bible say about how God changes? He does not change, so there is not past, present, and future with God; it is all the same, only a progression.

Ok . . .

Look Gregg . . . Cheth = 8


And the missing line of demarcation is the chariot/cheth/8

The 4 horses have chariots in Old Testament Zachariah. The 4 chariots are missing
with the horses in New Testament Revelation.

The Jesus and/or Messiah = 888

The connection to the root of Jesse/BRANCH.

The Cheth = 8 in Hebrew.

So here is the missing line of demarcation . . . and why the chariots (Cheth) are
missing in Revelation ?

And why the red/bay horse does not have EAST listed as its direction, as the other
three chariot horses do of Zachariah.


The Eastern Gate is reserved for the 'Branch' / root of Jesse = CHRIST OUR MESSIAH !





See how this fits in the equation ?

The word Lord (kurios) has a value of 800. And from the Old Testament, the basic root word for root, from a prophecy in reference to Jesus, is 800, or just 8 (without the zeros).


excerpt:
http://www.theomatics.com/theomatics/examp4.html
Before we look at the above example, let us go to Isaiah, and see what happens in the Hebrew of the Old Testament.

"In that day the root of Jesse shall stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations shall rally to Him" (Isa 11:10).

IN THAT DAY THE ROOT OF JESEE SHALL ... 1690
Is 11:10 'rwa ywy wrw avh Mvyb
Now the word for "root" in Hebrew does not work out to 169. It has a value of 800, and "root of Jesee" is 1120, or 80 x 7 x 2. It is a commonly known and well documented fact, that everything to do with Jesus is based upon the number 8 throught the Bible. The name Jesus (Iesous) has a numerical value of 888. The word Lord (kurios) has a value of 800. And from the Old Testament, the basic root word for root, from a prophecy in reference to Jesus, is 800, or just 8 (without the zeros).

"Stephen, do you actually think there is that much difference in the past, present, and future? You cannot divide God that way; maybe you can with man. A prophet is just man who speaks of the Kingdom of God. What does the bible say about how God changes? He does not change, so there is not past, present, and future with God; it is all the same, only a progression."

>But there is time lapse on the earth obviously and the visionary scriptures of the Bible prophets track it .... past, present, and future .... the Lord is the one who gives the tracking for His purposes

>Your statement here is very strange and is really not applicable to the study of Bible prophecy, the projections made of the events on the earth, and the fulfillment of those projections to the letter

>We have a more sure word of prophecy about these things

>I really do not know why you avoid this truth .... but you should not

>Again, your statement is totally off the wall

>Explain yourself

(Stephen, quote)
Satan's beast will come from his place out of the north to invade Israel

The location of Israel is a land bridge connecting the continente of Europe, Asia, amd Africa

And the Lord has placed the nation there for a reason

The only practical entrance is from the northern vector since the land is almost unapproach from the east


Ok :

Stephen, see how you said ' the land is almost unapproachable from the east ' ?


Now look closely at Zechariah 6th Chapter of the interesting change of the word red, now becoming the bay
horse instead of calling it red. East/Red/2nd Seal/Horse/Chariot.



First the 4 colored horses are described.

Then a question is ask. " What are these, my lord " ?


And only three are described in the answer, verse #6 of Zachariah 6 :


6The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.


THE RED IS NOT DESCRIBED unless the red is the bay ?


Bay horses range in color from a light red, to a rich red to a very dark red or brown. Often the darker almost chocolate brown horses are called "brown bay" while the purple toned bays are called "mahogany bay" and the dark almost black shades are called "sealskin bay".

Verse #7


7And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth



All the color's of the horses with geography directions, are listed except the red/East ?




Why is this ?


Is it the understanding the Messiah comes through the Eastern Gate ?








Zechariah 6

1And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.

2In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;

3And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.

4Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?

5And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the LORD of all the earth.

6The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.

7And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.

8Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.

What an interesting and indepth study! Thank you for bringing this to the forum C7. Also Gregg, I think your view is inline with Scripture. But I wanted to ask you this, or share this and see what you guys think. Pertaining to the rider on the black horse wih balances in his hand, I found this:

Hosea 12:7
He is a merchant, the balances of deceit are in his hand: he loveth to oppress.

Yes, Selah . . .


Glad you are involved in this study !


HANDS IN SCRIPTURE


http://www.biblenews1.com/hands/handc.htm

This is significant because the right hand of the Lord was symbolically inscribed in the Tabernacle.


The hands represent service, while the feet represent the walk or the stand.


And indeed the NORTH/3RD SEAL HORSE RIDER = BLACK with the scales of balance
in his hand


In Hebrew, Hand is Yod.



The scales in the hand, are the `Lamed` . . . the scale of balance . . . the sceptre, ox-goad,
the rod/of almond of the Shephard, the wing, . . .

And Lamed is 30.

Remember the 30 pieces of silver ?

CSA,

Your attempt match the symbols of judgment presented in Zechariah those in Revelation 6 will not compute

They are conceptually related, but not of the same time frame

My suggestion for you is to read your Bible for the time line of events of both eras with some study of historical records related to the first one if you want to discover the Lord's perspective of human history and the future

Zechariah's visions are not about the actual events of the future time of the end of this present age until you get to chapters 12,13, and 14

Thank you, Stephen :


I have my answer.


The north is as I already knew, the geography point of demarcation. If you are in the land
of Zion / Jerusalem . . . standing on the world map, you could view like the Prophets did
in visionary understanding how the horses with or without chariots, are lines of damarcation
called : CHETH


The geography is clear.








Lay the cross of Christ over the Jerusalem Map.

And look at the north.


All prophecy in Zachariah is aimed at the point of demarcation of paying attention to
North.

And other Biblical studies through the Word of the Lord, in other chapter's of reference
confirm the north geography of prophecy.


The next unfolding in this lesson is the instruction in Zechariah 2:6, which holds a key
to understanding Zechariah 6, and the 4 chariot's with horses.


1st seal = white horse = west

2nd seal = red horse = east

3rd seal = black horse = NORTH

4th seal = pale-green = south



These directional points will not change.



Interesting, the 3rd Seal/Black horse rider with scales (Lamed) in hand (Yod), NORTH

And 3rd Seal = 33rd Parallel North in worldwide geography of the world war locations !



The world of warriors, are always under the direction : NORTH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.

Ezekiel's vision in 38,39 should shed some light on your search

He is told to set his face against the north [from Jerusalem] .... the ancient "land" of Magog

And the angelic prince who is satan in this case

Once one knows where this land of Magog's habitation was just after the flood .... one can know where it is today

The same land area is still there today and has not moved anywhere

The same vision also designates other areas of the Middle East for a composite view of what will take place at the time of the end .... horses or no horses

The horses and riders are all symbolic representations of judgment and conquering

The applications involve the ancient neo-Babylonian invasions of Israel [which came from the same north parts of the Middle East] and a future and similar setting at the time of the end

So interesting! Thanks for the Hebrew as well. I do remember the 30 pieces if silver and who also was given it and why. More on the 3rd rider to also ponder: You gave him as the northern rider and I think that is correct and will help us to understand where this rider's function is (also considering what you provided about the 30 pieces of silver and Judas Iscariot.)

Isaiah 14:13
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

"The mount of congregation is specifically referring to THE Church(?) and then looking again at
Revelation 6:6
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

We all know what wheat represents.
I think I've got a little understanding of what barley represents (MM knows more about barley)
There is a measure upon the two wheat and barley. But the voice in the midst of the 4 beast say's not to hurt the oil (anointing) and wine (blood) <<< found in the Bible perhaps, what I meant was oil and blood is found in the Bible, so is this rider the merchent who sells the Word? Perhaps? Just thinking here...aloud so I'm not saying this as Scriptural fact *yet*.

I wish I could provide more and spend more time in this study C7, I think this is a very valuable and helpful study to share with the forum. Anyway, what do you think about the wheat/barley oil/wine? I'm actually thinking the 3rd rider is up in the Church., ie mount of congregation?

excerpt
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+38-39
Ezekiel 38
Prophecy about Gog and Future Invasion of Israel


11and you will say, 'I will go up against the land of [a](U)unwalled villages I will go against those who are (V)at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls and having no bars or gates,
12to (W)capture spoil and to seize plunder, to turn your hand against the waste places which are now inhabited, and against the people who are gathered from the nations, who have acquired cattle and goods, who live at the center of the world.'



THE CENTER OF THE WORLD :


EXCERPT
http://www.usm.maine.edu/maps/exhibit1/theme6.html

VI. Jerusalem: The Center of the World

This city of Jerusalem I have set in the midst of nations, with other countries round about her. [Ezekiel 5:5]

Since Jerusalem was located near the middle of the known world of antiquity, it naturally occupied a central position on early world maps. During the Middle Ages, strong religious influences caused some mapmakers to deliberately place Jerusalem at the exact center or "navel" of the world, in accordance with Biblical descriptions. This format was not widely adopted until the thirteenth century, following the Crusades and the consequent popular identification of Jerusalem as a primary spiritual center. With the advent of the Renaissance, new discoveries and improved geographic concepts changed the extent and shape of the known world and rendered Jerusalem-centered maps obsolete.


Num 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob (ISRAEL), and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.



Stephen,



Thank you for pointing my nose. ( smile )



And see the prophecy including the CHETH: ( all the following descriptions are Cheth, lines

of demarcation )



() unwalled villages



() all of them living without walls



() having no bars or gates



MORE ABOUT `NORTH` : ------- WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE HORSES ?

38:14-16



14"Therefore prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "On that day when My people Israel are (AB)living securely, will you not know it?

15"(AC)You will come from your place out of the remote parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly and a mighty army;

16and you will come up against My people Israel like a cloud to cover the land. It shall come about in the last days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may (AD)know Me when I am (AE)sanctified through you before their eyes, O Gog."

Good observations to consider, Selah !

~mount Up Wings/ Mound Begins Its Decent~, GRASS/ISAIAH 40
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=23524&hl=


The above is a former mount . . . topic.

And the Mount/Mountain of God ------- Mount Zion ---------- Messiah Return connection
to Mount Zion !


And the scale of balance, in the hand of the 3rd Seal/black horse rider holds the key
to wheat/barley/oil/wine ?


What does a scale do ? Measure, and/or weigh.


What does a cash register do, at the grocery store ? Calculate ?


What does a calcultor do ? add and subtract ?



Question you posed : ~I'm actually thinking the 3rd rider is up in the Church., ie mount of congregation?~


The 3rd Seal is symbolic to the CHURCH of Pergamos.

Starvation + a great star falls ( per the 3rd Seal characteristics ) : And here is your scripture,
to blend the meaning in a clear line of demarcation of understanding the star+mount+north :


Isaiah 14:13
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


So how would the Church of Pergamos, carrying the scale of balance in hand, of their
black horse rider, be the NORTH indicator in the geographic churches of the world ?

CSA,

I would have to say that I think you are on a chase to no where with some of your applications

You know that I am very direct about these things .... so do not take my evaluation as a personal criticism

As I see it, much better that you would study with more of a focus on the bigger picture first

Then fill in the blanks

You appear to be using a piece meal approach from the inside out rather than from the outside in

When one builds a house one does not attempt to build the laundry room first before the foundation and frame work is set

Studying the Bible is like constructing a giant puzzle

The smart guy selects the boarder pieces with edges first and then builds within a proven structured frame work

The rest of the puzzle is then fit within

Then as the puzzle maker gets more of the pieces in place correctly .... the puzzle making becomes much easier ..... and the process accelerates

Yes,


The `center of the world` is the foundation of the geography location called : Jerusalem


And I was glad you suggested Ezekiel . . . as I posted to confirm I get your reason.


And I saw the message clearly yesterday Stephen, of the cross of Christ laid over the
map of Jerusalem (Zion) and I was instructed to look to the north and then to evaluate
the north west.


The piece meal approach, is how I am exploring the key codes I know are truth.

The foundation we build upon is ancient. And infinity allows the gaps in human intangible
knowledge, to become tangible when we are told to draw on a piece of paper the map
with elementary details and today, I am sharing the coming together of the compartments
to the foundation I was shown.


However, my lack of expression is my own stumbling block, not the concern of the
Comforter who is guiding the topic at hand.

Why should I be concerned, I have you Stephen, to gently sway me back on historical
landmarks and such !

SMILE !

Ok . . .

Keep a watch on the topic, please . . . over this week.

I may need you to hammer in some of those support beams, when the construction crew
gets ready for lunch brake ?


(Ha)

To continue with the study . . .

Let us evaluate some outside resources . . . in these matters !


EXCERPT
http://www.ccel.org/node/5038/20690

Of the 404 verses that comprise the 22 chapters in the book of revelation 278 verses contain one or more allusions in the Old Testament. Example the 4 Horseman: Zachariah 6:1-5 which also features horses of various colors Red, Black, White, and Drappled Gray. Red= war and bloodshed, Black= symbolizing death or the darkness of the underworld, White=Parthian was a neighbor on the eastern border of the Roman Empire(white was sacred to the Parthians) what is meant is Parthian invasion meets with success, Pale horse= death, the color of decaying flesh Hades the ruler of the dead follows close behind.



EXCERPT:
http://www.wake-up.org/daystar/ds2001/SepA.htm

Another parallel from the Bible that will help us understand the imagery of horses and how it is used in Revelation can be found in Zechariah 6. Notice that the color of each horse in Zechariah 6 is identical to the horse found in Revelation 6. Zechariah writes, "I looked up again–and there before me were four chariots coming out from between two mountains–mountains of bronze! The first chariot had red horses, the second black, the third white, and the fourth dappled–all of them powerful. I asked the angel who was speaking to me, ‘What are these, my lord?’ The angel answered me, ‘These are the four spirits of heaven, going out from standing in the presence of the Lord of the whole world. The one with the black horses is going toward the north country, the one with the white horses toward the west, and the one with the dappled horses toward the south.’ When the powerful horses went out, they were straining to go throughout the earth. And he said, ‘Go throughout the earth!’ So they went throughout the earth. Then he called to me, ‘Look, those going toward the north country have given my Spirit rest in the land of the north.’ " (Zechariah 6:1-8) God revealed in a vision to the ancient prophet Zechariah how His work is accomplished throughout the Earth. God sends four living creatures (or spirits) who stand before His throne throughout the Earth to do His bidding. These four living creatures were represented to Zechariah as horses going north, south, east and west. In this particular vision, their task was to restore peace "in the land of the north." The Bible reveals that God sends war (Leviticus 26:24,25; Jeremiah 15:3; Zechariah 1:19-21) and peace throughout the Earth as He deems appropriate. The four living creatures appear to be the couriers of His will. Prior to Zechariah’s day, God had destroyed Jerusalem because of its degeneracy. Later, when the 70 years of captivity were fulfilled, God sent peace to Israel. Peace in the "north country" indicates that God’s anger has subsided. (The "north country" is the direction for the origin of God’s wrath. See Isaiah 41, Jeremiah 1 and Jeremiah 50.)

Even though Zechariah does not specifically mention riders on the horses he saw, the point remains that the four living creatures who stand before the throne of God are represented to Zechariah as couriers described in four colors, the same four colors found in Revelation 6. Please understand – these four living creatures are not horses. Rather, they are represented as horses (and riders) sent from the throne of God throughout the Earth.

What does the bible say that has to occur before the end?

And I am not talking about the man of sin being revealed; that comes second which may be now.

What has to happen is a complete falling away. There must be a complete and total separation of something; what is it?

Did it happen yesterday? Will it happen today? Is it going to happen tommorrow?

When you try and figure out a timeline, what are you supposed to look at? I see you were talking about the future, like tommorrow or next week.

Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

I have a little trouble ciphering that one.

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

That one is a little clearer and I think it is answered by the statement, 'The Lord is not slow in his promise, but wishes all to be saved.'

The man of sin is trying to be revealed now, I guess; so something must have fallen away, what was it?

Was it faith? Definitly not here. Maybe it having faith in the wrong thing. And that is growing, especially with the pharmaceutical industry taking over the healing and it is now working through the young with the psychoactive drugs.

But then, in Revelation what are the saints told to wait for? The people cried to the Lord saying, How long O lord . . .? The Lord said, 'Rest a little season until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.'

What is the timeline there? Past, present, future? Off the wall? I guess so.

I hope I explained myself.

() WHY NORTH ?

Interesting thought from that. In the Old Testament, north meant ‘the hidden country.’ And the north could be considered ‘up’; above.
That brings the picture to the mind of the heavens. Since, in the New Testament we are battling forces and rulers of the heavens, that would be north.



Gregg :



Zachariah 6:8

8Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.


Reviewing the north meant 'the hidden country', I found Isaiah 49:12 :


and lo these from the north
tsaphown (tsaw-fone')
hidden, i.e. dark; used only of the north as a quarter (gloomy and unknown) -- north(-ern, side, -ward, wind).


Isaiah 49:12

King James Bible
Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.


Did you see my post #26 ?


(post#26, crownsevenalphabet)
And I saw the message clearly yesterday Stephen, of the cross of Christ laid over the
map of Jerusalem (Zion) and I was instructed to look to the north and then to evaluate
the north west.


So Isaiah 49 is about the RESTORATION OF ISRAEL . . . and just as I was shown, there
is a application to north west ! ( verse #12 )


Keeping in mind :


1st Seal White = WEST = The Church of Ephesus

2nd seal red = east = The Church of Smyrna

3rd Seal Black = NORTH = The Church of Pergamos

4th seal pale-green = south = The Church of Thyatira

"What is the timeline there? Past, present, future?"

Beginning
[?]
Rebellion of Satan and 1/3 of The Angles
[?]
Desolation of The Earth
[?]
Renovation of The Earth
[6 Days]
Adam
[1,000 Years]
Flood - Noah
I - Land of Magog
II - Akkadian/Assyrian
[1,000 Years]
Abraham -Israel
Land of Israel
[1,000 Years]
David -Israel
II - Assyrian
III - Babylonian - Gold [Head] - Lion - I
IV - Persian - Silver [Chest - Arms] - Bear - II
Start 70 Weeks [490 Years]
V - Grecian - Bronze [Belly - Thighs] [N-S] - Leopard - III
[1,000 Years]
Jesus
End 69th Week [483 Years lapsed]

Interlude - [2,000 Years + ? Years]

70th Week [7 Years + 30 Days + 45 Days]
VI - [Small - Unnamed] - Iron [Legs] [N-S] - IV
Divided Dominion of The Beast
VII - [Lion-Bear-Leopard] - Iron [Leg] [N] + Clay [Feet] - IV
42 Months [1,260 Days]
Jesus - Stone
[1,000 Years]
Eternity

70TH WEEK - The tribulation period

Jesus Takes Believers to Heaven

The seals are removed and the events of the Lord's coming judgment begin

[beginnings]
Confirmation of the Covenant for the remaining One "7"
144,000 Mortal Israelites Sealed [144,000 Preach Gospel to Israel]
Satan Thrown to Earth [Given Key to Abyss]
Little Horn Removes and Replaces 3 Horns
4 Trumpets [Judgments]
Mystery Babylon's great city destroyed
5th trumpet (1st Woe)
Release of Abaddon and Abyss Angels
[Next 150 Days]
6th Trumpet (2nd Woe)
Release of 4 Euphrates Angels + Host
[Next 1,110 Days]
Middle East Conquered By Little Horn + 10 Horns
Israel Invaded and Conquered
Abomination of Desolation Set Up
[Next 1,260 Days]
42 Month [1,260 Days] Rule of The Beast
144,000 Preach Gospel to the Nations
Two Witnesses [1,260 Days]
Protection of Remnant in Wilderness [1,260 Days]
[Next 30 Days]
7th Trumpet (7 Vials) (3rd Woe)
Destruction of Beast's Dominion
Destruction of the Continent of the Great City
Destruction of the Rest of the World's Cities
Armageddon
Beast and False Prophet Destroyed [lake of fire]
Satan sent to The Abyss
Jesus Appears to the World
[Next 45 Days]
Gathering of The Elect [Israelites]
Separation of The Nations [Gentiles]
Millennial Kingdom
[1,000 Years]
Satan Released From Abyss
Satan Destroyed [lake of fire]
New Heavens and Earth
Eternity

I've been pondering upon this study today & this evening and going over everything that's been provided and I thought of something:

OK the 3rd horseman is black.
He's in in the northern quarter.
He can be compared to Lucifer and also Judas Iscariot.
Lucifer is a fallen star; symbolic of an apostate and even opposer of God.
Lucifer is further explained in 2 Thess; regarding the man of sin/lawless one-which yet again is a 'comparison' to Judas Iscariot.
The 3rd horseman carries balances and we've already talked about that.

Are there 2 Zions? One earthly and one Heavenly? See here:
Psalm 74:2
Remember thy congregation, which thou hast purchased of old; the rod of thine inheritance, which thou hast redeemed; this mount Zion, wherein thou hast dwelt.

That is pertaining to the Temple of old?

If so and we can put two and two together, then one of two entities come to mind.
Vatican
Muslims

Both have exalted themselves above God. One sit's in the mount of congregation on earth (muslim/dome) The other interecedes for heaven (yet we know it doesn't but it portrays that it does)

Now consider this!

One beast rises out of the sea.
The other from the earth.

I'm thinking vatican(sea)
Muslim (earth)

They are connected if that is the case!

I know it's kind of thrown together, and I sorry. But what do you guys think?

Stephen, Isn't this life wonderful!
It is just full of possibilities.
You can be what you want to be!
in eternity, even.
Not in the past.
You can dream,
you can soar,
you can go!
Leave behind the baggage that was yesterday,
and fly into tommorrow.

Let's help each other,
to find our way.

Isaiah 46:6

King James Bible
They lavish gold out of the bag, and weigh silver in the balance, and hire a goldsmith; and he maketh it a god: they fall down, yea, they worship.



Selah :

Because the Black horse rider, NORTH/3rd Seal . . . of the Church of Pergamos . . . is
holding the scales of balance, why ?



EXCERPT:
3rd Seal = Church of Pergamos

http://www.lwbc.co.uk/seven_churches.htm

(3) Pergamos (2:12-17) The Pergamos type of church holds to the fundamentals of the faith.They are faithful to God and His word, but they have compromised withfalse prophets and teachers. Because of this compromise unbiblical practices have become part of their worship and daily living. We could say that this type of church is ecumenical. (3) Pergamos Age: During this time (325-500 AD) paganism enters the Church. To a great extent this is because of Constantine's so-called conversion to Christianity. The church compromised with Constantine's paganism and idolatry and adopted all kinds of unscriptural teachings and practices. It is here that we see the foundation of what would become the Roman Catholic Church.



Disclaimer:
The creed is being discussed not RCC members. Let us not start a RCC bashing session !

"Let's help each other, to find our way"

>Your way is not the one I follow for sure

>Jesus Christ is the "Way" the "Truth" and the "Life"

>The narrow road that leads to eternal life

>You are on the broad road as I detect in your postings

>The Lord's way is very narrow and few find it .... He says this

>Can you understand it?

>Tell me

http://jeru.huji.ac.il/jeru/map23.jpg

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-map-new.jpg

"The world of warriors, are always under the direction"

>What about the Incas and the Aztecs?

Yes,


Other warrior's exist outside of 33rd North Parallel . . .


The 33rd parallel is part of the horse latitudes.


What do you think of this Stephen, the chariot (Cheth, line of demarcation) 4 horses of
Zachariah, the 4 horses of Revelation, Ezekiel's 4 living creatures, and the 33rd North
Parallel is part of what ?



HORSE, latitudes



(Hum ~)


Like I said, ' The chariot is a word related to Hebrew `Cheth`, the line of demarcation '.

And the chariot horses are matching a worldwide geographic north code in prophecy !



Diagram of Horse Latitudes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Atmosph...circulation.svg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_latitudes

Horse latitudes or Subtropical High are subtropic latitudes between 30 and 35 degrees both north and south.


The consistently warm, dry conditions of the horse latitudes also contribute to the existence of temperate deserts, such as the Sahara Desert in Africa, the southwestern United States and northern Mexico, and parts of the Middle East in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Atacama Desert, the Kalahari Desert, and the Australian Desert in the Southern Hemisphere.

Here is what I see from the scriptures:

The focus of the Bible prophets is primarily Middle Eastern of times past and at the time of the end

Israel's major enemies of the past approached the nation from the North or the South

This is because of Israel's limited geographical location and the surrounding terrain

At the time of the end it will be primarily from the northern Middle East sector