i put this up in an old post set up in this forum called is abortion sin
i noticed today that a member put up a pettion to stop Abortion so i thought might as wel put this hear since we have pro life supporters stepping out of line to the point were they show us pro choice supporters no respect
hear is what i said to increase the Abortion in our countrys the Adoption rate has to be higher no use coming to on line christian forums whinning if you are not willing to increase in adoption
i dont believe in wasting my gifts god has given me to were i put a red tape around my mouth and stand in a picket line to where i judge the mother or young girl who has an appointment to take the sperm out that is about to grow and form into a human
we have kids in genuine need of loving familys normal kids and new born babys and we have handi cap kids and new borns in need
Jesus Father even made sure his son Jesus had an earthly father Joseph
Joseph Adopted Jesus
God also assured that Jesus would have an earthly father in Joseph Perhaps the most profound example of covental adoption in the scriptures is Josephs parenting of Jesus Joseph clearly fulfilled the spirit of adoption by being willing to marry his betrothed who was with child that was not his He assumed the role of Jesus father for all Intents and purposes It should not suprise us that God provided Jesus with an earthly father consistent with his plan for marriage and parenthood
The lineage of Jesus prophesied in the old testament is fulfilled through Joseph matthew 11 v 17 Joseph is fully and completely Jesus father participating in his naming protecting him from danger by traveling to Eygpt teaching Jesus a trade and pressenting Jesus at the temple
If jesus father could do this for his son think what you as a humen being can do for a child who is dumped or a new born who is no longer wanted instead of judging the women and the young teen age girls and saying god is not happy with us he is punishing us cause we did not air our voices enough put what you hear preached into action
Jesus even adopted the disciples you could say since they had given up all they new and hear is Gods son living among them he takes them on he loves them he teaches them he encourages them he even disciplines them he protects them feeds them and he believes in them
i said did Jesus or the disciples hold signs place pics like what Eli placed in the old topic that is no longer having any hits is abortion sin i dont see decapitated babys in the gospels or do i see jesus and the disciples being involved in the politics of the roman empire i did not even read were jesus looked down on a women or young girl who is about to end the sperm growing in her which wil then become a full human being
yet i amazed what i see in on line christian forums like what i encountered is abortion sin and to have another member set up a topic should mods edit or deleet when it comes to defermation of character or name caling i see double standards hear
Biblical Model Lost
Much in todays society conflicts with the biblical model we have designated and down played the importance of the father to the point of causing a major shift in our social structer for many women and children the father who traditionally would have provided for them has been replaced by our goverment Estimates place the number of fatherless children in Australia and probably more and would be the same in America at 19 million and the statistics regarding these children are grim
Half of fatherless familys live below the poverty line
Adolesents of fatherless familys are more likely to be sexually active and daughters are more likely to become single parent mothers
young adults who grew up in fatherless familys are more likely to commit delinquent acts
young adults who grow up in fatherless familys were more likely to drop out of high school divorce and ingage in drugs and alcahol
i see this in the country towns i have lived in and i see this in the town i grew up in Liver pool and i see this in canberra
we have Department off community services familys support the smith family the salvation army the orginisation i help out called life with out barriers calling out for familys to open up their homes these groups are in need of foster parents and parents who want to adopt a child young or teen ager
what hurts me as a humen being is the amount of handi cap kids missing out young handi cap kids teen agers deformed handi cap babies being placed into full time care in goverment institutions or were i lived this group rents out a block of units and has young people living together with there carers coming in every day checking up on them
when i look into these kids eyes i see hoplesness dispare and a child in need of a mothers and fathers love
the kids who get a chance to live in a normal family home are normal kids and normal new borns with no problems these are the ones who get a better start in life while these hadi cap kids get given no start in life
the young boy i use to mentor has been adopted into a good home this couple have 6 kids of their own and were looking at taking on another child if it was not for them he would have probably ended up like me when i was young living in and out of goverment youth refuges
me and my fiancee who wil soon be my wife who is a filapino pastor wil be adopting a 12yr old boy his parents died and he is being looked after by the community and his older brother we also want kids of our own i told my fiancee i want him living with us i want him to be appart of our family he is a good young man he sings in our worship band and comes to the bible studys and to the friday and saturday prayer meeting and to the youth group
when he met me and my fiancee told him i too am a father less child he did not want to let go of me this kid clung to me
moses was adopted by pharaohs Dughter Exodus 20
but when moses grew up he did not want to be known as the son of pharaohs Daughter Hebrews 11 v 24
the book of exodus describes moses subsequent 40yrs with his in laws his meeting with his birht brother Aaron abd his return to his birth family Moses adoption enabled him to have influence with pharaoh yet identify with gods people not only because of his genetic ancestory but also because of his faith moses did not so much reject his adoptive family as he did their sinful and unrepentant ways as a nation
you can summerize Moses adoption by seeing it in the contex of two loving mothers whoes first concern was a child Jochebed who parted with her child knowing that his life was at stake if he remained with her and pharaohs Daughter who felt compassion on a child she knew by edict was to be killed God used these two women to save moses life and provide him with a safe secure childhood
Jochebeds decision is a great example of a births mothers love for her child Her Godly example sets straight the misconception that birth parents dont love their children Her love for moses prompted her to make the adoption plan
mordecai and Esther
Esther an orphan was adopted by her cusin Mordecai the story of mordecai and Esther is a beautifull example of respect between a father and daughter i see mordecai love and concern for Esther Every day he walked back and forth near the court yard of the harem to find out how Esther was and what was happening to her Esther 2 v 11 and her respect and obediance toward him but Esther kept secret her family background and nationality just as Mordecai had told her to do for she continued to follow mordecais instructions as she had done when he was bringing her up Esther 2 v 19 - 20 their cooperation while Esther was in the kings favor saved the Jewish nation
Biblical types of Adoption
hear are some exampls that are some times mentioned in scripture as types of Adoption
Jacobs adoption of Ephraim and Manasseh Genesis 48
Abraham and Eliazar Genesis 15
Eli and samuel 1 samuel 1
1 Adoption embodies the biblical theme of the covenant
2 Adoption upholds marriage as the building block or parenting
3 Adoption upholds the scriptual emphasis on the role of the father
4 Biblical examples show how God has used adoption to provide for children and to further his purposes and kingdom
5 Adoption is a scriptual metaphor that emphasizes the permanence of our relationship with God the rights we have as his children and his redemption for us
6 Adoption is an out pouring of Gods Grace on all involved
Adoption Embodies the Gospel
These images and metaphors are not just helpfull in our understanding of the adoption process but can deepen our understanding of Gods covenant family and his love for us using simple but powerfull adoption metaphors can more tangibly convey the truth of the Gospel as we seek to minister to young women young men and their familes in a holistic way
also i am reminded of what the apostle paul said two times the apostle paul referred to God as Abba are also the times he described our adoption by God God sent his son to reedem us and God sent his spirit to confirm his love in our hearts to create a bonding with our heavenly father enabling us to come as children before him and say Daddy
the churches active involvment can also bring healing and a sullotion instead of wasting his gifts he as given you were you put a tape over your mouth and place stupid pics like Eli did in is abortion sin to bring the point home to me or anyone else who does not agree with him or tsth how god hates what we are doing
the churches active involvement could vastly improve the prospects for adoption in our countrys local churches could council young women towards adoption as an aleternative to either abortion or single parent hood It could give its hearty endorsement to adoption as a way of prospering the lives of all concerned
The lord who adopted his people promised that he would be their God
The chief part of the word covenant consists of promises by which he adopts and receives us as his own people
Exodus 22 English standard version
22 you shall not mistreat any widow or fatherless child
23 if you mistreat them and they cry out to me I will surely hear their cry
if you are serious in making change heeps of examples can be found in the bible were god cares for us even though some love to say he is a vindictive god and some try to sway us to look to the old laws and some say we are to fear him perfect love casts out fear fear has to do with punishment perfect love casts out all fear
if i had a stable mother and father who were spirit filled christians i would not have made the mistakes i have made i am nearly 41yrs old i have been on my own i have raised my self up and the choices i made got me into trouble
if i new of the love god has for me instead of being told what i heard by the catholic priest in my village in osijek i would not have mocked god like i did when i was young or blamed god for the sittuations i found my self in
kids are in Genuine need of loving family boys like me need stable fathers as role models young girls like my female friend who is in Jail for murder need stable mothers who wil love them guide them believe in them
their are couples in churches who cant have kids their are older folk in churches who can pass on skills we can give hope to a hurting world if we are willing to get out of our comfort zones and open up our homes
my spiritual mentors took me in and raised me and i thank god for my two spiritual mentors who became my spirtual father and mother this couple taught me not to waste the gifts he has given me i did not see the couple who took me into their home standing in front of abortion clinics with a tape around their mouth judging the women and young girls that decide to end the sperms life growing in them what they did they opened up their home and it was by taking me in they learnt a lot and they have done this with others who would have ended up on the streets or in real big trouble
are you willing to increase the adoption rate to were a women and a young girl gets given the right advice no need to send them to hell you have no right to say who goes to heaven or hell only god has that right
this is who i am as a person and this is wear i stand and why i pray for commensence and dont support pro life supporters whether you are born again or a non believer you have lost my respect if you cant put what you hear into action to were you take on a child instead of judging the women who make the choice to end the sperm growing in their wombs you can be saving that sperm who becomes a human being were you say i wil take your child on and take the pressure of you you just have the child in your womb ful term and we wil do all the rest
Damo